I'm not going to be able to post the analysis for another couple weeks due to midterms. After that i will get this done. Thanks. Im going to get this done on Sunday. Sorry for the Delay.
edit: Im going to edit in what I have so far and work on the rest tomorrow, just so you know I am actually alive. Sorry for the wait, but its finally winter break :)
[Overview]
<p>Victreebel has always been thought of as a run-of-the-mill Chlorophyll abuser. That has been the truth for most of generation 4. However, with the advent of Heart Gold and Soul Silver, Victreebel finally gained somethings to separate it from the rest of the pack: Leaf Blade and Weather Ball. With great attacking stats, a new revamped move pool, and Chlorophyll, Victreebel is truly a fearsome sunny day sweeper.</p>
<p>On the other hand, Victreebel’s defenses leave alot to be desired. 80/65/60 defenses are nothing to be proud of, and even with its good supporting movepool, it can’t stand up to the hard hitters in the UU metagame. While resistances to common priority moves in Aqua Jet, Vacuum Wave, and Mach Punch increase it survivability while sweeping, it will still lose a large chunk of health from them, and is easily revenge killed after the sun fades away.</p>
[SET]
name: Special Sweeper
move 1: Solar Beam
move 2: Weather Ball
move 3: Sleep Powder
move 4: Hidden Power Rock
item: Life Orb
ability: Chlorophyll
nature: Modest
evs: 28 HP / 252 SpA / 228 Spe
[set comments]
<p>The set aims to take advantage of Victreebel’s good base 100 special attack stat along with Weather Ball and Solar Beam. Under the sun, not only does Victreebel’s speed double due to Chlorophyll, but Solar Beam also needs no charge up. Weather ball becomes a fire type move with base 100 power, not accounting the boost from Sunny Day. This strong fire move lets it hit the grass types which resist solar beam. Hidden Power Rock damages the fire types which resists it’s other attacking moves, and sleep powder lets it immobilize a counter. The evs on this set are fairly simple. Maximum special attack and a Modest nature it hit hit as hard as possible. 228 speed evs allow it to outspeed scarf Rotom with chlorophyll active, the rest of the evs being placed in HP for added bulk.</p>
[additional comments]
<p> Victreebel has several other options that it can use on this set. Sludge Bomb is a very strong STAB attack but has bad type coverage and Weather Ball already damages grass types. Hidden Power Ice lets Victreebel rid itself of Altaria, who otherwise takes measly damage from everything but Hidden Power Rock, which fails faint support variants in two hits. However, with Stealth Rock support, it Hidden Power rock suffices, and either way Altaria can’t do much back. </p>
<p> While Victreebel does have great attacking stats, it still cant break through everything. Chansey is the bane of all UU special attackers, this one being no exception. Chansey has the added bonus of being able to stall out the remaining Sunny Day turns with the combination of Wish and Protect. However, Chansey must be wary of switching into the Sword Dance set due to it’s pitiful defense stat. Muk also is a good counter, albeit not as good as Chansey. This is because of no viable recovery. However it can get rid of Victreebel with a combination of Ice Punch and Shadow Sneak. Dugtrio defeats both of these, and as such is a very good partner.
</p>
<p> Like most sweepers, Victreebel appreciates Stealth Rock alot, particularly for the KO on Altaria. Obviously Sunny Day support is also a necessity. Pokemon like Uxie and Mespirit can set up both, but other pokemon like Hariyama, Ambipom, Persian, and Arcanine are also sufficient, and have different uses. Other Sunny Day abusers also appreciate Victreebel’s ability to weaken sturdy pokemon, most notably Registeel. Tangrowth and Shiftry are prime examples of this. Pokemon like Moltres and typhlosion also enjoy Victreebel’s ability to dispose of bulky water types.
</p>
[SET]
name: Sword Dance
move 1: Sword Dance
move 2: Leaf Blade
move 3: Sucker Punch / Return
move 4: Sleep powder/ Weather ball
item: Life Orb
ability: Chlorophyll
nature: Naughty
evs: 120 SpA/ 252 Att / 136 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>Victreebel can also run a viable physical set, thanks to its access to Sucker Punch and Leaf Blade. The grass and dark combination is very effective in UU, only being resisted by twelve pokemon. On the other hand, Return allows for strong neutral coverage. Either combination is helped greatly by the presence of fire type move, which in Victreebel’s case can be Weather Ball. Sleep Powder lets Victreebel put a counter to sleep, which is also beneficial to a team, paticualrly when Victreebel can’t combat a foe. Sword dance allows it to boost its physical attack to acceptable levels, and during sunny weather, Victreebel possesses adequate speed. </p>
<p>The speed evs on this set allow Victreebel to outspeed electrode under the sun. Victreebel needn’t use more speed evs due to the presence of priority. If you forgo Sucker Punch then running more speed is an option. Similarly, if you choose to not run this set with Sunny Day support, which is unadvised, using 180 speed evs is advised to outspeed base 60 speed opponents. Maximum attack is self explanatory on a physical set. When using Weather Ball, the remaining evs should be kept in special attack to boost its power. If you opt to use sleep powder or another move instead of Weather Ball, Victreebel has no use for special attack evs and they would be better off in the HP stat. </p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>One of the things often lacking on a Sunny Day team is priority, often only found on Arcanine. Victreebel has this useful asset, allowing to defeat pokemon such as choice scarf Rotom. However, due to his slightly lacking physical movepool, this set has a few more counters than the previous. Without the Modest nature and maximum special attack evs, Registeel counters this set with or without Weather Ball. Many other pokemon also resist both the Grass/Dark and Grass/Normal typing. A notable one is Houndoom, who threatens Victreebel with its STAB fire moves. All steel types also stop this set, along with pokemon with high defense stats. Unfortunately for Victreebel, most steel types tend to have high defenses. Due to this weakness to steel and dark types, a fighting type is almost necessary with this set. Hariyama is a prime example, possessing the ability to set up sunny day multiple times with its great defenses, as well as the ability to get rid of the aforementioned pokemon.</p>
<p> Many of the pokemon who work well with the previous set work well with this set as well, for the same reasons. Stealth Rock is also very useful for this set, due to the myriad of KO’s it achieves, most notably the ability to get rid of scarf Typhlosion with a +2 Sucker Punch.
</p>
Team Options:
- Sunnyday set up pokemon / abusers. Grumpig gets a special mention for resisting all of victreebell’s weaknesses, except for flying.
- Dugtrio, as stated above
- SR users. Macargo also gets a mention for resisting everything but psychic. It can also use sunny day.
- Flash fire pokemon like arcanine to absorb fire attacks, and strike back with sunny day and flash fire boosted attacks. Houndoom also resists all of victreebell’s weaknesses except for flying.
Other options:
growth
Leaf storm
support
annoyer with teeter dance, sleep powder, stun spore, or encore.
mostly outclassed by tangrowth or other pokemon with these sets, however.
Specs
Gastro acid or worry seed in doubles. They could work to an extent in singles.
counters for physical sweeper:
-If it doesnt run Encore, anything which resists Leaf Blade and Hidden power ground can come in and set up.
-Murkrow gets a special mention for being immune to sleep and resisting all three attacks, but it still doesn’t like getting hit, and is pretty frail.
-Registeel walls this to oblivion
-Cacturne and shiftry also resist all 3 attacks and can set up on them. Shiftry can abuse the sun as well.
Counters for special set:
- Chansey isnt 3ko'd by anything, but must make sure it isn't a physical set. Protect and Wish also lets it stall out Sunny Day turns.
- defensive muk (curse or restalk sets) can switch in, but the best they can do is explode.
- moltres / charizard can come in on anything but sludge bomb, which 2kos
- Defensive Altaria can come in on anything but HP ice, but can only 2ko back, while is 3ko'd on the switch.
- the best counter is a pokemon who can stall out sunny day turns. After sunny day is gone it is very easy to revenge kill.
edit: Im going to edit in what I have so far and work on the rest tomorrow, just so you know I am actually alive. Sorry for the wait, but its finally winter break :)
[Overview]
<p>Victreebel has always been thought of as a run-of-the-mill Chlorophyll abuser. That has been the truth for most of generation 4. However, with the advent of Heart Gold and Soul Silver, Victreebel finally gained somethings to separate it from the rest of the pack: Leaf Blade and Weather Ball. With great attacking stats, a new revamped move pool, and Chlorophyll, Victreebel is truly a fearsome sunny day sweeper.</p>
<p>On the other hand, Victreebel’s defenses leave alot to be desired. 80/65/60 defenses are nothing to be proud of, and even with its good supporting movepool, it can’t stand up to the hard hitters in the UU metagame. While resistances to common priority moves in Aqua Jet, Vacuum Wave, and Mach Punch increase it survivability while sweeping, it will still lose a large chunk of health from them, and is easily revenge killed after the sun fades away.</p>
[SET]
name: Special Sweeper
move 1: Solar Beam
move 2: Weather Ball
move 3: Sleep Powder
move 4: Hidden Power Rock
item: Life Orb
ability: Chlorophyll
nature: Modest
evs: 28 HP / 252 SpA / 228 Spe
[set comments]
<p>The set aims to take advantage of Victreebel’s good base 100 special attack stat along with Weather Ball and Solar Beam. Under the sun, not only does Victreebel’s speed double due to Chlorophyll, but Solar Beam also needs no charge up. Weather ball becomes a fire type move with base 100 power, not accounting the boost from Sunny Day. This strong fire move lets it hit the grass types which resist solar beam. Hidden Power Rock damages the fire types which resists it’s other attacking moves, and sleep powder lets it immobilize a counter. The evs on this set are fairly simple. Maximum special attack and a Modest nature it hit hit as hard as possible. 228 speed evs allow it to outspeed scarf Rotom with chlorophyll active, the rest of the evs being placed in HP for added bulk.</p>
[additional comments]
<p> Victreebel has several other options that it can use on this set. Sludge Bomb is a very strong STAB attack but has bad type coverage and Weather Ball already damages grass types. Hidden Power Ice lets Victreebel rid itself of Altaria, who otherwise takes measly damage from everything but Hidden Power Rock, which fails faint support variants in two hits. However, with Stealth Rock support, it Hidden Power rock suffices, and either way Altaria can’t do much back. </p>
<p> While Victreebel does have great attacking stats, it still cant break through everything. Chansey is the bane of all UU special attackers, this one being no exception. Chansey has the added bonus of being able to stall out the remaining Sunny Day turns with the combination of Wish and Protect. However, Chansey must be wary of switching into the Sword Dance set due to it’s pitiful defense stat. Muk also is a good counter, albeit not as good as Chansey. This is because of no viable recovery. However it can get rid of Victreebel with a combination of Ice Punch and Shadow Sneak. Dugtrio defeats both of these, and as such is a very good partner.
</p>
<p> Like most sweepers, Victreebel appreciates Stealth Rock alot, particularly for the KO on Altaria. Obviously Sunny Day support is also a necessity. Pokemon like Uxie and Mespirit can set up both, but other pokemon like Hariyama, Ambipom, Persian, and Arcanine are also sufficient, and have different uses. Other Sunny Day abusers also appreciate Victreebel’s ability to weaken sturdy pokemon, most notably Registeel. Tangrowth and Shiftry are prime examples of this. Pokemon like Moltres and typhlosion also enjoy Victreebel’s ability to dispose of bulky water types.
</p>
[SET]
name: Sword Dance
move 1: Sword Dance
move 2: Leaf Blade
move 3: Sucker Punch / Return
move 4: Sleep powder/ Weather ball
item: Life Orb
ability: Chlorophyll
nature: Naughty
evs: 120 SpA/ 252 Att / 136 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>Victreebel can also run a viable physical set, thanks to its access to Sucker Punch and Leaf Blade. The grass and dark combination is very effective in UU, only being resisted by twelve pokemon. On the other hand, Return allows for strong neutral coverage. Either combination is helped greatly by the presence of fire type move, which in Victreebel’s case can be Weather Ball. Sleep Powder lets Victreebel put a counter to sleep, which is also beneficial to a team, paticualrly when Victreebel can’t combat a foe. Sword dance allows it to boost its physical attack to acceptable levels, and during sunny weather, Victreebel possesses adequate speed. </p>
<p>The speed evs on this set allow Victreebel to outspeed electrode under the sun. Victreebel needn’t use more speed evs due to the presence of priority. If you forgo Sucker Punch then running more speed is an option. Similarly, if you choose to not run this set with Sunny Day support, which is unadvised, using 180 speed evs is advised to outspeed base 60 speed opponents. Maximum attack is self explanatory on a physical set. When using Weather Ball, the remaining evs should be kept in special attack to boost its power. If you opt to use sleep powder or another move instead of Weather Ball, Victreebel has no use for special attack evs and they would be better off in the HP stat. </p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>One of the things often lacking on a Sunny Day team is priority, often only found on Arcanine. Victreebel has this useful asset, allowing to defeat pokemon such as choice scarf Rotom. However, due to his slightly lacking physical movepool, this set has a few more counters than the previous. Without the Modest nature and maximum special attack evs, Registeel counters this set with or without Weather Ball. Many other pokemon also resist both the Grass/Dark and Grass/Normal typing. A notable one is Houndoom, who threatens Victreebel with its STAB fire moves. All steel types also stop this set, along with pokemon with high defense stats. Unfortunately for Victreebel, most steel types tend to have high defenses. Due to this weakness to steel and dark types, a fighting type is almost necessary with this set. Hariyama is a prime example, possessing the ability to set up sunny day multiple times with its great defenses, as well as the ability to get rid of the aforementioned pokemon.</p>
<p> Many of the pokemon who work well with the previous set work well with this set as well, for the same reasons. Stealth Rock is also very useful for this set, due to the myriad of KO’s it achieves, most notably the ability to get rid of scarf Typhlosion with a +2 Sucker Punch.
</p>
Team Options:
- Sunnyday set up pokemon / abusers. Grumpig gets a special mention for resisting all of victreebell’s weaknesses, except for flying.
- Dugtrio, as stated above
- SR users. Macargo also gets a mention for resisting everything but psychic. It can also use sunny day.
- Flash fire pokemon like arcanine to absorb fire attacks, and strike back with sunny day and flash fire boosted attacks. Houndoom also resists all of victreebell’s weaknesses except for flying.
Other options:
growth
Leaf storm
support
annoyer with teeter dance, sleep powder, stun spore, or encore.
mostly outclassed by tangrowth or other pokemon with these sets, however.
Specs
Gastro acid or worry seed in doubles. They could work to an extent in singles.
counters for physical sweeper:
-If it doesnt run Encore, anything which resists Leaf Blade and Hidden power ground can come in and set up.
-Murkrow gets a special mention for being immune to sleep and resisting all three attacks, but it still doesn’t like getting hit, and is pretty frail.
-Registeel walls this to oblivion
-Cacturne and shiftry also resist all 3 attacks and can set up on them. Shiftry can abuse the sun as well.
Counters for special set:
- Chansey isnt 3ko'd by anything, but must make sure it isn't a physical set. Protect and Wish also lets it stall out Sunny Day turns.
- defensive muk (curse or restalk sets) can switch in, but the best they can do is explode.
- moltres / charizard can come in on anything but sludge bomb, which 2kos
- Defensive Altaria can come in on anything but HP ice, but can only 2ko back, while is 3ko'd on the switch.
- the best counter is a pokemon who can stall out sunny day turns. After sunny day is gone it is very easy to revenge kill.
