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The title is pretty self explanatory. There should be a public forum for users to post to get a warning appealed.
The current system for getting an unfair warning removed is weird and lacks oversight. The most intuitive thing for a user to do is to immediately reply to the moderator. This rarely works (why would they give an infraction they feel is unjust?) and the immediate nature after being pissed off about a warning tends to make these PMs uncivil and just get them in deeper shit.
The best solution is to PM an smod or admin, but first you have to find one who actually gives a shit about your warning, then you have to hope they're active and willing to look into it if it was really unjustly applied. This is tricky because most appealed warnings are borderline, and no one's going to make a gargantuan effort to resolve a warning that was probably out of line but "not that big a deal"...
So thus I'm proposing a simple public forum where users can post when they get an infraction. Here's some ways I think something like this should be implemented.
I realize this suggestion isn't a simple one and it would require a time commitment, but I think it's valid. I have 24 infractions in my history and 5 of them were overturned, in part because I had "the right friends" who could vouch for me to the admins. I mean, we essentially do the exact same thing for Pokemon Online, so it's not like people don't feel appeals are never justified...
Thanks for your time.
The current system for getting an unfair warning removed is weird and lacks oversight. The most intuitive thing for a user to do is to immediately reply to the moderator. This rarely works (why would they give an infraction they feel is unjust?) and the immediate nature after being pissed off about a warning tends to make these PMs uncivil and just get them in deeper shit.
The best solution is to PM an smod or admin, but first you have to find one who actually gives a shit about your warning, then you have to hope they're active and willing to look into it if it was really unjustly applied. This is tricky because most appealed warnings are borderline, and no one's going to make a gargantuan effort to resolve a warning that was probably out of line but "not that big a deal"...
So thus I'm proposing a simple public forum where users can post when they get an infraction. Here's some ways I think something like this should be implemented.
- It should be in the rules of the forum that users must wait 24 hours before making a thread about their infraction, or they forefeit their right to appeal it. This will give users ample time to reflect upon their actions and not do anything rash in what might have been a justified opinion.
- The forum should be public because all users should know exactly how the rules are enforced and what behavior is good or bad. Warnings are not "none of your business" if you're not involved in them, because the same rules apply to all users. Mderator discretion is still a factor and that should be emphasized, but this will help with issues of consistency. (also, you know at least a few of these threads are bound to be hilarious...)
- All users should be ABLE to comment, but any comments that don't add anything to the discussion ("that's unfair" or "if i was a mod i would / wouldn't have warned for it") should be deleted. This lets members chime in with potentially relevant points while making sure the forum does not become flooded with public support or opposition.
I realize this suggestion isn't a simple one and it would require a time commitment, but I think it's valid. I have 24 infractions in my history and 5 of them were overturned, in part because I had "the right friends" who could vouch for me to the admins. I mean, we essentially do the exact same thing for Pokemon Online, so it's not like people don't feel appeals are never justified...
Thanks for your time.