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NOC WikiMafia 2 Game Thread [Night 2]

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Celever said:
VOTECOUNT 2.3

saber (6) - pulsar512b, Blizihguh, phoopes, genisu, bluedoom, HydrogenHydreigon
bluedoom (5) - realiti, des121, Tommy, liquidrelief, Psy
Psy (1) - Peum
pulsar512b (1) - saber
genisu (1) - Flandrs

Not Voting (4) - a fairy, ShyPebble, Dead by Daylight, AirC

3 hours 20 mins remain

With 18 players alive, it takes 10 voteweight to hammer.

Also I'm gonna be afk for like between a bit and a while
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Hi everyone I'm doing another 10-page catchup after oversleeping please end me now

I liked Blizihguh's response to my pressure but immediately after that his next couple posts kinda scumping me again

bluedoom's catchup in a vacuum makes me militantly against voting him today but then liquid comes in and now I'm weirded out again

Jesus christ this is a horrendous entrance from liquid on p82-83. They scumread psy and I, but their reasoning for me is because they agree with scum!psy's logic about why I'm scum? And then he jumps on Shypebble with bluedoom because encouraging people to make alignment-indicative content in thread is somehow scummy? This guy has less than a page of content and I'm already running out of newbie-benefit-of-the-doubt to give him, sheesh. At least 2088 is pretty based.

Hold up why the fuck is he on Tommy now??? Bro asked him for a game summary without caring about bias and then Tommy gives him a somewhat biased summary and now liquid cares about Tommy lying to him what the fuck I'm losing my mind reading this
Celever said:
VOTECOUNT 2.2

bluedoom (4) - realiti, des121, genisu, Tommy
saber (4) - Psy, pulsar512b, Blizihguh, phoopes
Psy (1) - Peum
pulsar512b (1) - saber
genisu (1) - Flandrs
ShyPebble (1) - bluedoom

Not Voting (6) - a fairy, ShyPebble, Dead by Daylight, AirC, liquidrelief, Hydro

4 hours 45 mins remain
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Alright well it looks like the people have decided which of genisu/saber they like less and I'm not too bothered about it tbh. I don't prefer the other wagons nearly enough to actively canvas against this one.

##Vote saberslasher11


OH MY GOD LIQUID SOMEHOW FOUND AN EVEN WORSE VOTE WITH EVEN WORSE REASONING CAN WE ACTUALLY MAYBE KILL HIM TODAY
des121 said:
Okay so my reads are

Me - town
Psy - town
Dbd - town
Liquid relief- scum
Tommy - town
A fairy- town
Pulsar- towny
Flanders - towny
Genisu- town
Shy pebble- null
Hydro - towny
Evie - towny
Bd - null
Saber - scum
Blitz - towny

If there is anyone else who I forgot let me know
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Having only two scumreads in a 5-scum game at the end of D2 is wild but honestly I'll take what I can get with you
HydrogenHydreigon said:
##vote: saber
per my previous posts but also i want to start a third wagon. the only thing stopping me is that im struggling to formulate scumreads on people
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Babe wake up, Hydro-Saber scum equity just popped off

I REALLY hate this pop-in, his take on the wagon is insanely fence-sitty. I know it's rare for Hydro to be seriously considered as a lynch but I hope he can be for D3, the slot's been bugging me for a while.
Peum said:
(I read Flandrs as town because they're so convinced of their own delusions that they cant possibly be mafia, their reads sucks tho).
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Finally someone understands me (W takes all around in this post tbh)

AirC's readlist, much like the rest of their posting, just kinda made my eyes glaze over. Not really big on him writing off Tommy/Psy being unpaired entirely
 
Tommy said:
What did you like about the catch up?
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I got a lot of mindmelds in his readlist, and reading all his posts so far makes me feel like the standard town!BD thought process is happening as he interacts with the current thread. While I'm still a bit weirded out by him and liquid both happening to return at the same time and vote the same random person who's not widely scumread and not currently a wagon, the reasoning in 2015 strikes me as genuine and I really like that post as a response to realiti's pressure on him.
 
I will say if bluedoom flips scum then liquid is striking me as bad enough at the game to have genuinely thought doing what he did so close together with a partner was a good idea and I'd want to look at flipping him D3. Sorry liquid.

I also really like how the votes have properly coalesced around two people this time, big improvement from D1. I feel like we'll get tons of good info here even if we mislynch
 
StupidFlandrs48 said:
I will say if bluedoom flips scum then liquid is striking me as bad enough at the game to have genuinely thought doing what he did so close together with a partner was a good idea and I'd want to look at flipping him D3. Sorry liquid.

I also really like how the votes have properly coalesced around two people this time, big improvement from D1. I feel like we'll get tons of good info here even if we mislynch
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They probably both arrived then because celever pinged them they were going to be subbed
 
bluedoom If you're trying to stay in the game here surely voting saber is the only way at the current moment? Maybe something else comes up soon but it doesn't seem like you townread him enough to literally get lynched in his place so what gives

I don't think you're gonna convince a lot of other people onto that wagon
 
Blizihguh said:
Oh yeah also saber's reads list from early D2 is weird. They town read bluedoom "even though they haven't said much," and in general they town read afks except for the ones who they don't for no stated reason?? Idk this might be too scummy to be scummy tbh lol

Voting des at xx:58 yesterday is a very "I am scum and I know chickening is going to flip town so let me distance myself" move. You were caught up and present for like half an hour and you wait to vote until you know it won't matter?? :V
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no it was a they probably town and I dont want to vote someone i think is town.
 
VOTECOUNT 2.4

bluedoom (7) - realiti, des121, Tommy, liquidrelief, Psy, ShyPebble, AirC
saber (6) - pulsar512b, Blizihguh, phoopes, genisu, bluedoom, Flandrs
Psy (1) - Peum
pulsar512b (1) - saber

Not Voting (3) - a fairy, Dead by Daylight, HydrogenHydreigon

With 18 players alive, it takes 10 voteweight to hammer.

1 Hour Remaining
 
Psypsypsypsypsythe said:
phoopes has done this a couple times where hes popped into thread to drop a like on a post but doesnt actually make any posts or talk about anything
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getting caught up as we speak

I do this when I am quick browsing between doing other things so I don't have to catch up all at once

Speaking of, still getting caught up and DL is in an hour. expect more posts from me before then
 
StupidFlandrs48 said:
bluedoom If you're trying to stay in the game here surely voting saber is the only way at the current moment? Maybe something else comes up soon but it doesn't seem like you townread him enough to literally get lynched in his place so what gives

I don't think you're gonna convince a lot of other people onto that wagon
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also disregard this bd I missed your earlier swap to saber fsr
 
Think I'm staying on saber, but short readlist for now because idk if I'm going to be able to be around/make longer posts closer to deadline

pulsar: town
a fairy: scum
Tommy: town
Flanders: town
ShyPebble: town
DBD: either way, but lean scum
AirC: town
des: town
phoopes: town
genisu: either way, but lean scum
liquidrelief: scum
Bliz: either way, but lean town
bluedoom: either way, but lean town
psy: town
saber: scum
Peum: town
realiti: town
HH: either way, but lean town

So my scum team at this point is:

a fairy, DBD, genisu, liquidrelief, saberslasher
I could see Bliz or bluedoom or HH as possible scum though

Everyone else I'm fairly sure is town at this point

I realize I flipped on some people (notably psy to town and DBD to scum) but that's how it rolls in this kind of game with this many pages/posts to go through lol
 
AirC said:
Okay I am almost caught up with everything, skipped a bit of discussions here and there because they did not feel relevant. Here comes a probably not so accurate readlist but idk :


- Pulsar : I spent 15 minutes trying to isolate your messages so you're scum (joking). Apart from that we don't agree on the saber vote, and it's hard to say because I geniunely don't get why there are so many people on saber so idk if they are town and I'm missing something, but unless I learn why people are making a wagon on saber i'll be lukewarm about anyone voting saber

- a fairy : I agree with most of her posts,

- Tommy/Psy : Putting them together because I feel like they're either both town or both scum (I currently feel like both town is way more likely tho.) At first I was really confused by how Psy played around d2, especially with the Tommy push and some of the arguing in thread that felt really meaningless, but like, the more I read his next messages the more I can't stop to feel like Psy is town, I feel like no one experimented enough (if I understood it well you're experimented enough) would play like that as scum. Also I feel like Tommy is really townie, maybe I'm biased but he feels really consistent. However if somehow Psy is scum I can't believe in a world where Tommy isn't. I feel like Psy would just throw a big bait to make Tommy look town after Psy would flip maf. Maybe I'm stupid

- StupidFlandrs48 : I'm not so sure about you, I don't like most of your posts, big scumlean here.

- ShyPebble : I feel like most of their posts today were really helpful, and idk I just feel good vibes here.

- DBD : Yeah idk, why you act how you're acting. Why vote bluedoom D1 kinda randomly then defend him really hard like you're doing? Why did you want to vote out afk D1 and are fine with voting thechickening but now Bluedoom is not a good vote? (Not saying bluedoom is a good vote, I'm still struggling with that). I feel like the situation is fairly similar (if I'm wrong please tell me), but you have 2 completely different stances

- des121 : I am also incredibly confused, why do you think Bluedoom is a threat? I feel like you're way more scummy than past game we've played together but it's hard to tell, right now I'm especially confused by your post saying bluedoom is threatening because idk what you mean when you say that (again not saying bluedoom is a bad vote, but I feel like describing him as a threat is like really weird). Your activity is also really weird this game

- phoopes : I don't really agree with the read on psy, but I understand where it comes from, overall feels like they're town

- Genisu : Genisu getting focused so much makes me think they're town, I still feel weird about the Saber vote tho. I like their posts a lot tho.

- liquidrelief : Are you really town/scum reading people because of their articles? Are you really sus of Tommy because they misremembered a game where you played together????

- Blizihguh : I feel like you got a lot of great posts today, bla bla bla saber vote bla bla bla. Overall Bliz stocks went up for me.

- Bluedoom : Yeah, I'm about confused as you all are, I'm pretty sure I'll vote bluedoom, but it feels so weird, especially when you compare it to other games. I mean last game he was scum and he didn't play like that, but he didn't play like that in the games where he was town either. I won't vote now because we're close to hammer and I don't want to hammer, so unless saber gets more votes I'll hold my vote for now. I also don't like the Pebble calls.

- Saber : I'd need someone to explain to me why there is a wagon there, I need to reread their posts

- Peum : Apart from voting for psy when he asked people to vote for him, they feel like a really solid townread to me.

- Realiti : I had a lot of trouble reading them in our last game and ended up losing because of it (we were both town). Really like their posts, especially the stance on DBD. I feel like they're letting Des getting away with a bit too much tho but overall I feel like they are town.

- HH : I don't agree with his stance on the vote between bluedoom and saber but he unvoted while I was writting that so idk if this stands. Apart from that I like it's a slight scumlean, especially because I don't know how they feel good about bluedoom entrance.


NOTE (important) : After reading this I realized that we were way less close to hammer than what I believe so :

##VOTE : Bluedoom

Unrelated but gendering in english is kinda confusing for me and it's worse when I write big posts like this, I tried to pay attention but mb if I made a mistake because I know it already happened in the past
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Bluedoom vote d1 was a pressure vote to see if they would get on
 
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