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NOC WikiMafia 2 Game Thread [Night 2]
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At this point ##: vote bluedoom
I don't like this at all
oh nvm then lol I thought you weren't picking a side
Fire Emblem Fates Revelations route-ass decision if so
it’s a quintessential hydropost
yeah something doesn't add up, I still feel there's mafia interference and I don't like how this wasn't talked about, especially by players who like to talk mech.
just wanna say i thought it meant opening and also im up to here now and gonna take a short break but brb
Stop living in a hedge or I'm gonna light the hedges on fire
welp
it was actually #2184 wrong post
what if I dont wanna vote bluedoom? I think they're acting pretty towny.
im gonna post some thoughts i have about the game before i could get nkd
tommy/psy is either t/t or psy is scum. this whole act from psy is some horseshit like even ignoring the fact theres mulitple different possibilities that would lead to this he kept kinda railing at it all game.
sadly this doesnt help me get a read on flandrs but yeah
this 'i cant be mafia i dont have discord' (which isnt true as far as i know?)
liquidrelief i just have no info on
realiti i really hope performs better hes not been posting as much as usual, but i think he said smth about being more engaged come d3
tommy/psy is either t/t or psy is scum. this whole act from psy is some horseshit like even ignoring the fact theres mulitple different possibilities that would lead to this he kept kinda railing at it all game.
sadly this doesnt help me get a read on flandrs but yeah
this 'i cant be mafia i dont have discord' (which isnt true as far as i know?)
liquidrelief i just have no info on
realiti i really hope performs better hes not been posting as much as usual, but i think he said smth about being more engaged come d3
we can keep posting until Celever has actually noticed
At least we had great voter turnout guys! That's a sign of a healthy society!
At least we had great voter turnout guys! That's a sign of a healthy society!
VOTECOUNT 2.5
bluedoom (10) - realiti, des121, Tommy, liquidrelief, Psy, ShyPebble, AirC, a fairy, HydrogenHydreigon, Peum
saber (7) - pulsar512b, Blizihguh, phoopes, genisu, bluedoom, Flandrs, Dead by Daylight
pulsar512b (1) - saber
With 18 players alive, it takes 10 voteweight to hammer.
That's Hammer
bluedoom (10) - realiti, des121, Tommy, liquidrelief, Psy, ShyPebble, AirC, a fairy, HydrogenHydreigon, Peum
saber (7) - pulsar512b, Blizihguh, phoopes, genisu, bluedoom, Flandrs, Dead by Daylight
pulsar512b (1) - saber
With 18 players alive, it takes 10 voteweight to hammer.
That's Hammer
bluedoom died
This is how bluedoom's role looked when he died. However, his locked abilities were:
For Role PMs whose abilities unlock and lock, this is the format I will flip them in. There is a type of lock or unlock where I will not do this, which I will point out when that happens.
Night 2 begins now and ends in 24 hours, 24 minutes
Dear bluedoom,
You are Tariff.
I’ve actually never read such a derogatory Wikipedia article in my life, this is so funny. Wikipedia is of course correct that tariffs are terrible for the economy, but that’s not why they’re a thing. Tariffs are a social policy designed to control people into participating in behaviours that are altogether harmful to themselves but good for the state. Like a sin tax, where the sin is not being nationalistic enough, and as with any sin tax this will on paper shift the social attitudes of the nation against the sin in question. The more expensive something is, the less that the poor masses are able to interface with it. Eventually people will decide their own nation’s industry is “just better” with no greater critical thought required, and enjoy their doomspiral into poverty with a renewed vigour arisen by their shared suffering. That’s the hope, anyway, and historically has both worked and failed to significant degrees.
[Passive 1: Public Opinion]
It’s difficult for a capitalist state, particularly a nationalistic one. Convincing people you’re helping them is much harder when you’re not helping them. It doesn’t seem to stop you from trying, you’re just gonna have to invest extra time and resources into getting people on-side. Fortunately, whenever you get a convert, they tend to do some of the rest of the work for you, getting others to buy into their stupidity. Or I guess when enough people buy into it it stops being stupidity and becomes “common sense”.
You begin the game with one charge of Active 1: Propagandise. After its first use it will permanently lock, only unlocking should no remaining alive players be propagandised. The most recently propagandised player will be the carrier of any uses of Active 2: This Is Cool This Seems Like A Great Idea, as they are happy to lend themselves to your cause. You will receive the name of the most recently propagandised player, and therefore the carrier of the ability, at the beginning of each night. If a player has been propagandised for the second time this game they are subsumed deeper into your ideology, and instead will have to carry Active 3: Civic Enforcement. Whenever someone is propagandised for a third time or more, you will be forced to use Active 4: Total Devotion. You giving the order to whoever the most recently propagandised player is doesn’t count as an action, and so therefore any role interactions affecting one of your Active abilities would need to target the propagandised player and not yourself for it to have an effect.
[Active 1: Propagandise]
Propaganda is biased, ideological media intended to influence or persuade people towards furthering a pre-determined agenda. For example, Smogon is a propaganda machine for Pokémon, convincing hundreds of thousands of people that it’s not actually an easy baby kid’s game for kids. Once someone has been subjected to enough propaganda that their views actually change, you might describe them as propagandised, and therefore willing to act on behalf of the agenda they’ve been propagandised into.
At night, you may target a player with “Night X - Pay Millions to Tech Companies to Feed Your Content to [PLAYER1]”. PLAYER1 will love your content, receiving one more level of being propagandised, and excited to both act on your behalf, and spread the gospel further. Propagandised players will not be informed that they are propagandised, but will receive a message the day after they have been propagandised that reads “You also must target a(n additional) player today, for reasons you do not know. Target them with “Night X - idfk [PLAYER1]” If you do not target a player today your target will be determined randomly.”. While they do not know what it does, the effect of this action is the same as Active 1: Propagandise, and PLAYER1 will receive one more level of being propagandised. They may target you with this, and if you are propagandised the usual rules of your role applies.
[Active 2: This Is Cool This Seems Like A Great Idea]
Who likes carrots? No? OK fine it’s 2025, it’s a fake carrot made of gelatine and sugar that tastes like diabetes. Ayy, now you’re on board, this nation’s awesome ain’t it? As with any ideology, on the surface level it seems like a really good idea to participate in this project. So this ability’s pretty nifty, actually. It’s healthcare! People love healthcare! Let’s hope people only engage with your ideology this far.
At night, you may target a player with “Night X - Give Healthcare To [PLAYER1]”. The most recently propagandised player will target PLAYER1, protecting PLAYER1 from any abilities that would result in their death that night, with the SUPERIOR, HIGH QUALITY medicine of, y’know, your nation. Not any of that foreign shit, which is obviously worse. Obviously.
[Active 3: Civic Enforcement]
[LOCKED]. This ability will unlock should your most recent propgandised player be on propagandisation level 2.
[Active 4: Total Devotion]
[LOCKED]. This ability will unlock should your most recent propagandised player be on propagandisation level 3 or above.
You are Mafia. You win if there are the same number of mafia remaining as town, or more.
You are Tariff.
I’ve actually never read such a derogatory Wikipedia article in my life, this is so funny. Wikipedia is of course correct that tariffs are terrible for the economy, but that’s not why they’re a thing. Tariffs are a social policy designed to control people into participating in behaviours that are altogether harmful to themselves but good for the state. Like a sin tax, where the sin is not being nationalistic enough, and as with any sin tax this will on paper shift the social attitudes of the nation against the sin in question. The more expensive something is, the less that the poor masses are able to interface with it. Eventually people will decide their own nation’s industry is “just better” with no greater critical thought required, and enjoy their doomspiral into poverty with a renewed vigour arisen by their shared suffering. That’s the hope, anyway, and historically has both worked and failed to significant degrees.
[Passive 1: Public Opinion]
It’s difficult for a capitalist state, particularly a nationalistic one. Convincing people you’re helping them is much harder when you’re not helping them. It doesn’t seem to stop you from trying, you’re just gonna have to invest extra time and resources into getting people on-side. Fortunately, whenever you get a convert, they tend to do some of the rest of the work for you, getting others to buy into their stupidity. Or I guess when enough people buy into it it stops being stupidity and becomes “common sense”.
You begin the game with one charge of Active 1: Propagandise. After its first use it will permanently lock, only unlocking should no remaining alive players be propagandised. The most recently propagandised player will be the carrier of any uses of Active 2: This Is Cool This Seems Like A Great Idea, as they are happy to lend themselves to your cause. You will receive the name of the most recently propagandised player, and therefore the carrier of the ability, at the beginning of each night. If a player has been propagandised for the second time this game they are subsumed deeper into your ideology, and instead will have to carry Active 3: Civic Enforcement. Whenever someone is propagandised for a third time or more, you will be forced to use Active 4: Total Devotion. You giving the order to whoever the most recently propagandised player is doesn’t count as an action, and so therefore any role interactions affecting one of your Active abilities would need to target the propagandised player and not yourself for it to have an effect.
[Active 1: Propagandise]
Propaganda is biased, ideological media intended to influence or persuade people towards furthering a pre-determined agenda. For example, Smogon is a propaganda machine for Pokémon, convincing hundreds of thousands of people that it’s not actually an easy baby kid’s game for kids. Once someone has been subjected to enough propaganda that their views actually change, you might describe them as propagandised, and therefore willing to act on behalf of the agenda they’ve been propagandised into.
At night, you may target a player with “Night X - Pay Millions to Tech Companies to Feed Your Content to [PLAYER1]”. PLAYER1 will love your content, receiving one more level of being propagandised, and excited to both act on your behalf, and spread the gospel further. Propagandised players will not be informed that they are propagandised, but will receive a message the day after they have been propagandised that reads “You also must target a(n additional) player today, for reasons you do not know. Target them with “Night X - idfk [PLAYER1]” If you do not target a player today your target will be determined randomly.”. While they do not know what it does, the effect of this action is the same as Active 1: Propagandise, and PLAYER1 will receive one more level of being propagandised. They may target you with this, and if you are propagandised the usual rules of your role applies.
[Active 2: This Is Cool This Seems Like A Great Idea]
Who likes carrots? No? OK fine it’s 2025, it’s a fake carrot made of gelatine and sugar that tastes like diabetes. Ayy, now you’re on board, this nation’s awesome ain’t it? As with any ideology, on the surface level it seems like a really good idea to participate in this project. So this ability’s pretty nifty, actually. It’s healthcare! People love healthcare! Let’s hope people only engage with your ideology this far.
At night, you may target a player with “Night X - Give Healthcare To [PLAYER1]”. The most recently propagandised player will target PLAYER1, protecting PLAYER1 from any abilities that would result in their death that night, with the SUPERIOR, HIGH QUALITY medicine of, y’know, your nation. Not any of that foreign shit, which is obviously worse. Obviously.
[Active 3: Civic Enforcement]
[LOCKED]. This ability will unlock should your most recent propgandised player be on propagandisation level 2.
[Active 4: Total Devotion]
[LOCKED]. This ability will unlock should your most recent propagandised player be on propagandisation level 3 or above.
You are Mafia. You win if there are the same number of mafia remaining as town, or more.
This is how bluedoom's role looked when he died. However, his locked abilities were:
[Active 3: Civic Enforcement]
After enough influence into a certain ideology, people sometimes become willing to do things they wouldn’t usually do if they decide it’s “for the greater good”. At only stage 2 of propagandisation they’re usually not gonna run into the streets acting as a militia, but becoming a mouthpiece for some social pressure? Sure, especially now that you can do it from your sofa. Cancelling someone for having the wrong opinion isn’t civic enforcement of your ideology because you’re right, y’know? You’re just correcting them. Thank you, internet.
At night, you may target a player with “Night X - Make A Video Essay About [PLAYER1]”. The most recently propagandised player will create a video essay about PLAYER1, and after some financial backing from yourself, and using your contacts to get the mainstream press to write news stories about the scandal, it will go viral. This will result in PLAYER1 both being unable to be targeted with any actions including kills, but also unable to target anyone with their own actions tonight, as their reputation means no one wants to be associated with them.
[Active 4: Total Devotion]
The propaganda’s cutting deep now. The echo chamber’s established, and in our 24/7 information society that means round the clock pummelling of the same opinions, same take, same enemies and friends as yesterday, and the day before, and the day before that. Dissent isn’t dissent anymore -- it’s wrong, morally, logically, philosophically… exactly what you want.
At night, you must use “Night X -- Homogenise; Assimilate”. Your target is the most recently propagandised player. Your target will target themselves with this ability. Their Passive 1 ability will lock, and with it any role restrictions held within that Passive 1. What this means for each role varies, and may make them stronger, weaker, or not have much impact at all. You will not be informed what your use of Active 4: Total Devotion does to the player in question. The player will be informed of the effects and that their Passive 1 ability is locked, but will not be informed why this has happened to them.
After enough influence into a certain ideology, people sometimes become willing to do things they wouldn’t usually do if they decide it’s “for the greater good”. At only stage 2 of propagandisation they’re usually not gonna run into the streets acting as a militia, but becoming a mouthpiece for some social pressure? Sure, especially now that you can do it from your sofa. Cancelling someone for having the wrong opinion isn’t civic enforcement of your ideology because you’re right, y’know? You’re just correcting them. Thank you, internet.
At night, you may target a player with “Night X - Make A Video Essay About [PLAYER1]”. The most recently propagandised player will create a video essay about PLAYER1, and after some financial backing from yourself, and using your contacts to get the mainstream press to write news stories about the scandal, it will go viral. This will result in PLAYER1 both being unable to be targeted with any actions including kills, but also unable to target anyone with their own actions tonight, as their reputation means no one wants to be associated with them.
[Active 4: Total Devotion]
The propaganda’s cutting deep now. The echo chamber’s established, and in our 24/7 information society that means round the clock pummelling of the same opinions, same take, same enemies and friends as yesterday, and the day before, and the day before that. Dissent isn’t dissent anymore -- it’s wrong, morally, logically, philosophically… exactly what you want.
At night, you must use “Night X -- Homogenise; Assimilate”. Your target is the most recently propagandised player. Your target will target themselves with this ability. Their Passive 1 ability will lock, and with it any role restrictions held within that Passive 1. What this means for each role varies, and may make them stronger, weaker, or not have much impact at all. You will not be informed what your use of Active 4: Total Devotion does to the player in question. The player will be informed of the effects and that their Passive 1 ability is locked, but will not be informed why this has happened to them.
For Role PMs whose abilities unlock and lock, this is the format I will flip them in. There is a type of lock or unlock where I will not do this, which I will point out when that happens.
Night 2 begins now and ends in 24 hours, 24 minutes
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