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NOC Wikimafia, The Free Online Mafia [TOWN+BROIL WIN]
- Thread starter CaffeineBoost
- Start date
my question was phrased like "hypothetically, if this role existed in this situation, what would happen"
Unrelated to whatever's going on, idk what to make of this
Coming back to this, I bring it up because Tommie's volunteering himself made sense given his understand of scum's threat at the time - his ability had been unholstered, directed, and use to kill a townie. Preferable for sure to just eliminate the threat from scum, but at the time of his volunteering it makes plenty of sense for town in his predicament to offer the self-hang and remove the extra firepower from scum's arsenal.
I do not see where you are coming from at all HydrogenHydreigon
What are we supposed to be looking at here
geass is part of m2h's role not sure if there was fuckery in some fashion there that's revealed
so here's my world view:
i want to say drookez is just town, i do believe caff gave us a doc, and drookez claims look even better with the recind, not going to tinfoil this
that means his celever claim is true, he targetted celever n1 and as said before strongman doesn't make sense. we should know drookez was disrupted even without the litt claim, the litt claim was just a good track that backs up what we should infer.
so why was drookez roleblocked? if drookez is town then starting n3, there's 3 block in the game via hal, HH, drookez i think town having both hal and hh is fine, but drookez pushes it over the edge.
we know our doc was blocked might 1, we have a claim he was blocked n2. it can't be hal because we have confirmation by schia (?) that his block is notified. so all roads lead to roam and all mechanics lead to hydro is just mafia here, unless we believe there's a 4th blocker hiding in the woods.
i want to say drookez is just town, i do believe caff gave us a doc, and drookez claims look even better with the recind, not going to tinfoil this
that means his celever claim is true, he targetted celever n1 and as said before strongman doesn't make sense. we should know drookez was disrupted even without the litt claim, the litt claim was just a good track that backs up what we should infer.
so why was drookez roleblocked? if drookez is town then starting n3, there's 3 block in the game via hal, HH, drookez i think town having both hal and hh is fine, but drookez pushes it over the edge.
we know our doc was blocked might 1, we have a claim he was blocked n2. it can't be hal because we have confirmation by schia (?) that his block is notified. so all roads lead to roam and all mechanics lead to hydro is just mafia here, unless we believe there's a 4th blocker hiding in the woods.
quick compiling, has haruno neighbourized anyone yet
have a point about the 3 blocks tbh
but more so, am thinking about how people's roles aren't locked and verifying people's claims are what they claimed before voting hh out because claims n1 were under some duress so it's unlikely that town would choose to lie about their role because of it
and just because drookez's action failed doesn't mean that it's because of a roleblock, i tried listing possibilities
then again most of my consideration is because hh said they blocked drookez n2 but not n1; with motivations for both nights
hence it's good to atleast extend courtesy to accept that claim to figure out if there are any other sources that can cause it before jumping to a conclusion?
hal's action is notified, yeah. From a design standpoint, I'm also much more inclined to believe in the Roleblock/Rolestop dynamic (which plays nicely with M2H's role) and an X-phase JK than just a regular degular roleblock, targeting the players they claim to have targeted, and playing through the day the way they have been (regardless of experience level)
I'm open to other suggestions and I'll see what clouds says but i am very convinced that hydro is the best vote today
over a person who lied about their role? i'm surprised how casually that's being taken
especially when the new claim is
a) much more convoluted claim that doesn't have anything adjacent with what they initially claimed
b) doesn't really mesh with setup for town? atm the util from people who get sniped by that abil is more likely info roles, which fits more as scum; e.g if someone cops you, you just nuke them so they don't get to day results to out you
and could just be fabrication to hide a scum roleblock in there, say which explains all of this with town!hh
if i had to guess, i'd say broil is still lying about his role because it seems like what you'd pick to fill a niche no other role in the setup has after massclaim, to get heat off you and try to squeeze in another ml, hence it's like really grating to see it go dismissed
i made this roughly for n1; if neighbourized is alive you can bold both haruno columns as confirmed actions
just kinda shows how much room there is for drookez to have been blocked even within the world of confirming that they're a doc itf place
e.g could even have hh hijacked to drookez + tommy voting cel of his own will as a solution,
broil doesn't look great but recinding a role doesn't look as bad as a mechanical close to guilty right?
can you remind me how else you think he might be been blocked?
i really don't think theres an unclaimed roleblocked left ftr, even if someone has fakeclaimed i don't buy into 4 blockers in the game
broils claim is probably bad but idk why he claims it now to try save drookez, i guess maybe he wouldn't want to be killed tomorrow but it's still like yeah it's weird maybe he's 4th
rescinded after fakeclaiming not very normal doc targets, specifically clouds. plus after the post i made saying that if broil/drookez was s/t the s was always broil; he's never saving drookez because he's always going to be voted before drookez is here?
why am i scum c:
on a serious note, you're ignoring that the first conclusion from info was w!hh
i think alt options exist and that broil is far more damning in terms of play that i think don't fit into town while hh's motivations are open for everyone to judge, while people are writing it off as guilty from simplest explanation
partly my responsibility to make sure my result doesn't ml a town just because it exists like thread is suggesting atm
i think alt options exist and that broil is far more damning in terms of play that i think don't fit into town while hh's motivations are open for everyone to judge, while people are writing it off as guilty from simplest explanation
partly my responsibility to make sure my result doesn't ml a town just because it exists like thread is suggesting atm
broil / hh are fairly not paired from events today
should probably pay attention to order
mafia hijack was on me, they don't have two of the same role right
I think it's 3 mafia with hydro as final rn
yeah tbf this doesn't matter, both have to eat a vote before lylo so whatever clouds decides I guess, strongly prefer HH though