XY OFFSTAT

[Level 51]

smh who needs Arcticblast's approval anyway

Introduction

In October 2012 a new metagame was born through a tournament. It was unlike anything else existing at the time, mainly because it was actually a cool metagame which was more balanced than Balanced Hackmons. Fun fact: one of the main reasons user Joim (current sysadmin) joined Smogon was to take part in this tournament. Which is why Offstat is cool.

Rules

Offstat is a really cool metagame because it only has 3 rules. I think. [Keep in mind that Offstat follows the OU banlist.]
UNO. Pokemon can only use attacking moves corresponding to their WEAKER OFFENSIVE STAT. hence the name offstat. Status moves are fine. Seismic Toss counts as a Physical move, Night Shade as a Special one. Since Nature Power turns into Tri Attack, it is counted as a Special move.
DOS. I LIED. Hazards are banned because otherwise Roar + Hazards would just wreck too much shit.
TRES. This is the important bit! You can only use Pokemon with a difference of at least 50 between their two offensive stats! For example, Machamp is allowed since there is a difference of 130 - 65 = 65 between its Attack and Special Attack stats, while Heatran is not allowed because the difference between its two stats is only 40.

Things to look out for [optional reading]

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Kyurem-Black
Still rocking its solid Base 120 Special Attack, Kyurem-Black comes equipped with the likes of Draco Meteor, Ice Beam, Earth Power and a ton of coverage moves, which could make life very difficult for a whole bunch of Pokemon. Fortunately for us, Blissey exists.

Blissey
If you're not looking out for Blissey when building a team, you're more or less committing suicide right from the start. Since Blissey can still run a Seismic Toss / Softboiled or Wish / Toxic / Aromatherapy set, it's incredibly potent in a metagame as offensively weak as Offstat. Here are some sample damage calculations:
252+ SpA Teravolt Kyurem-B Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Blissey: 169-201 (23.6 - 28.1%)
252+ SpA Terrakion Focus Blast vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Blissey: 224-266 (31.3 - 37.2%)
Moral of the story: always bring a physical attacker. For example...

Keldeo
If you see a guy using SD Keldeo in OU, he's doing something wrong. However, Keldeo shines with this very set in Offstat, punching through numerous threats such as Blissey, Kyurem-Black and Terrakion with a combination of Close Combat and Aqua Jet.

List of available Pokemon
Thanks to Loudo for putting this list together!
Attack

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Alakazam - 50 Atk
Alakazam (Mega) - 50 Atk
Beheeyem - 75 Atk
Blissey - 10 Atk
Chandelure - 55 Atk
Darmanitan (Zen) - 30 Atk - Darmanitan requires Special moves, making Zen Darm illegal
Espeon - 65 Atk
Gardevoir - 65 Atk
Gardevoir (Mega) - 85 Atk
Gengar - 65 Atk
Glaceon - 60 Atk
Heliolisk - 55 Atk
Jynx - 50 Atk
Keldeo - 72 Atk
Lilligant - 60 Atk
Magnezone - 70 Atk
Meloetta (Aria) - 77 Atk
Mr. Mime - 45 Atk
Musharna - 55 Atk
Omastar - 60 Atk
Porygon-Z - 80 Atk
Regice - 50 Atk
Reuniclus - 65 Atk
Roserade - 70 Atk
Togekiss - 50 Atk
Volcarona - 60 Atk

Special Attack

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Absol - 75 SpA
Aggron - 60 SpA
Aggron (Mega) - 60 SpA
Armaldo 70 SpA
Avalugg - 44 SpA
Barbaracle - 54 SpA
Bisharp - 60 SpA
Braviary - 57 SpA
Breloom - 60 SpA
Bouffalant - 40 SpA
Conkeldurr - 55 SpA
Darmanitan - 30 SpA
Dodrio - 60 SpA
Donphan - 60 SpA
Doublade - 45 SpA
Druddigon - 60 SpA
Durant - 48 SpA
Escavalier - 60 SpA
Excadrill - 50 SpA
Gallade - 65 SpA
Garchomp - 80 SpA
Garchomp (Mega) - 120 SpA
Gigalith - 60 SpA
Gliscor - 45 SpA
Golurk - 55 SpA
Granbull - 60 SpA
Gyarados - 60 SpA
Gyarados (Mega) - 70 SpA
Hariyama - 40 SpA
Haxorus - 60 SpA
Heracross - 40 SpA
Hitmonchan - 35 SpA
Hitmonlee - 35 SpA
Hitmontop - 35 SpA
Kabutops - 65 SpA
Kangaskhan - 40 SpA
Kingler - 50 SpA
Krookodile - 65 SpA
Kyurem (Black) - 120 SpA (Arcticblast edit: pls ban)
Leafeon - 60 SpA
Machamp - 65 SpA
Mamoswine - 70 SpA
Pangoro - 69 SpA
Pinsir - 55 SpA
Pinsir (Mega) - 65 SpA
Rampardos - 65 SpA
Regigigas - 80 SpA
Regirock - 50 SpA
Rhyperior - 55 SpA
Sandslash - 45 SpA
Sawk - 30 SpA
Scizor - 55 SpA
Scizor (Mega) - 65 SpA
Shedinja - 30 SpA
Slaking - 95 SpA
Staraptor - 50 SpA
Stoutland - 45 SpA
Sudowoodo - 30 SpA
Tauros - 40 SpA
Terrakion - 72 SpA
Throh - 30 SpA
Trapinch - 45 SpA
Tyrantrum - 69 SpA
Unfezant - 65 SpA
Ursaring - 75 SpA
Weavile - 45 SpA
Zangoose - 60 SpA

And there you have it: the best Other Metagame to ever exist! Offstat can be played on Joim's Lab... I think... or you can set up matches with friends in OU. Have fun / discuss / both!

 

[BLOOD TOTEM]

It'd be nice to see a list of Pokemon that are available to use. It'd make theroymoning / teambuilding tons easier.

 

[Loudo]

List of usable Pokémon (I only included the best evolution stage available).

Attack

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Alakazam - 50 Atk
Alakazam (Mega) - 50 Atk
Beheeyem - 75 Atk
Blissey - 10 Atk
Chandelure - 55 Atk
Darmanitan (Zen) - 30 Atk
Espeon - 65 Atk
Gardevoir - 65 Atk
Gardevoir (Mega) - 85 Atk
Gengar - 65 Atk
Gengar (Mega) - 65 Atk
Glaceon - 60 Atk
Heliolisk - 55 Atk
Jynx - 50 Atk
Keldeo - 72 Atk
Kyogre - 100 Atk
Kyurem (White) - 120 Atk
Lilligant - 60 Atk
Magnezone - 70 Atk
Meloetta (Aria) - 77 Atk
Mr. Mime - 45 Atk
Musharna - 55 Atk
Omastar - 60 Atk
Porygon-Z - 80 Atk
Regice - 50 Atk
Reuniclus - 65 Atk
Roserade - 70 Atk
Togekiss - 50 Atk
Volcarona - 60 Atk

Special Attack

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Absol - 75 SpA
Aggron - 60 SpA
Aggron (Mega) - 60 SpA
Armaldo 70 SpA
Avalugg - 44 SpA
Barbaracle - 54 SpA
Bisharp - 60 SpA
Braviary - 57 SpA
Breloom - 60 SpA
Bouffalant - 40 SpA
Conkeldurr - 55 SpA
Darmanitan - 30 SpA
Dodrio - 60 SpA
Donphan - 60 SpA
Doublade - 45 SpA
Druddigon - 60 SpA
Durant - 48 SpA
Escavalier - 60 SpA
Excadrill - 50 SpA
Gallade - 65 SpA
Garchomp - 80 SpA
Garchomp (Mega) - 120 SpA
Gigalith - 60 SpA
Gliscor - 45 SpA
Golurk - 55 SpA
Granbull - 60 SpA
Groudon - 100 SpA
Gyarados - 60 SpA
Gyarados (Mega) - 70 SpA
Hariyama - 40 SpA
Haxorus - 60 SpA
Heracross - 40 SpA
Hitmonchan - 35 SpA
Hitmonlee - 35 SpA
Hitmontop - 35 SpA
Kabutops - 65 SpA
Kangaskhan - 40 SpA
Kangaskhan (Mega) - 60 SpA
Kingler - 50 SpA
Krookodile - 65 SpA
Kyurem (Black) - 120 SpA
Leafeon - 60 SpA
Machamp - 65 SpA
Mamoswine - 70 SpA
Pangoro - 69 SpA
Pinsir - 55 SpA
Pinsir (Mega) - 65 SpA
Rampardos - 65 SpA
Regigigas - 80 SpA
Regirock - 50 SpA
Rhyperior - 55 SpA
Sandslash - 45 SpA
Sawk - 30 SpA
Scizor - 55 SpA
Scizor (Mega) - 65 SpA
Shedinja - 30 SpA
Slaking - 95 SpA
Staraptor - 50 SpA
Stoutland - 45 SpA
Sudowoodo - 30 SpA
Tauros - 40 SpA
Terrakion - 72 SpA
Throh - 30 SpA
Trapinch - 45 SpA
Tyrantrum - 69 SpA
Unfezant - 65 SpA
Ursaring - 75 SpA
Weavile - 45 SpA
Zangoose - 60 SpA

Fun trivia: Mega Absol is the only illegal Mega Evolution that has a legal normal form.

 

[Mulan15262]

Ubers like Groudon and Kyurem-White are still banned, even if their off attacking stat is at least 50 less than its better attacking stat.

Black Kyurem looks like a major threat. Its special set is listed on its BW2 analysis, and it is legal here (barring Dragon Claw/Outrage). I could see this being very common:

Kyurem-Black @ Choice Specs
Ability: Teravolt
EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 HP / 252 Spd
Timid Nature
- Ice Beam
- Dragon Pulse
- Earth Power
- Hidden Power (Fight/Fire/Flying)

 

[BLOOD TOTEM]

Thanks for the list Loudo.

First thoughts:
Seems really damn difficult to have any offensive presence meaning teams will likely be more defensively orientated. Pokemon like Blissey will obviously be invaluable with the ability to wall pretty much any special attacker and also act as a cleric. Togekiss can also Wish / Heal Bell / Defog and spread Paralysis. A more unorthodox approach would be to run Curse / Pain Split Chandelure, maybe with Substitute to avoid status. This quickly wears down any switchins or defensively orientated Pokemon without reliable recovery. Chandelure can also use Will-o-Wisp to burn any Physical attackers and further enhance it's chip damage potential. Hell, Gengar can probably run a similar set with Focus Punch on the end to catch out anything switching in or Disable to fuck any choice users over.
Poison Heal Gliscor would be a thorn in the side of anything looking to run Toxic stall. Unfortunately it can't make 101 HP Substitutes but with Protect and Substitute it can probably stall out a Blissey.

Knock Off is probably a really handy move to carry to help cripple anything running Eviolite or other healing items like Leftovers, Black Sludge or a Healing Berry. It also helps you deal with Life Orb and Choice abusers.

Offense looks pretty weak with Adaptability PZ / SD Keldeo / Shell Smash Omastar that I'd consider from a physical orientation. Mega Garchomp and Kyurem-Black are strong picks, both supporting useful dual STABs with 120 Spa. Machamp may be able to pull off a Specs set with Focus Hit and Fire Blast as well as the Hidden Powers for coverage.

I was really desperate to find something in the Special list that could run Super Fang but no such Pokemon exists.

 

[Loudo]

No idea if this would work, but it looks a neat set for this meta.

Gallade @ ???
Ability: Steadfast
EVs: 252 SpA / 252 HP / 4 Spd
Modest Nature
- Calm Mind
- Stored Power
- Focus Blast
- Wonder Room

Calm Mind boosts Gallade's Special Attack, and its Special Defense, and Stored Power's Base Power. Wonder Room lets Gallade hit Blissey and other special walls on the physical side.
Gallade also has good Special Defense against Kyurem-B and Garchomp and it has type advantage against Keldeo and Porygon-Z.

Unfortunately, setting up is a nightmare in this meta. To be honest, I'd rather ban phazing moves instead of hazards. A teammate with Safeguard could buy Gallade a couple of turns free of Toxic, but there's no defense against phazing moves.

 

[AOPSUser]

Okay let's see...

Blissey+Avalugg: Dear god no. This is like Inverse Battles lol.

Mega Kangaskhan: Parental Bond Fire Blasts, Ice Beams, etc.

Kyurem-B: Base 120 Special Attack. Why is this even a thing

Shedinja: No perma-weather! No hazards! No Ferrothorn!

Darmanitan: No joke here, this is one of the strongest attackers in the meta. LO SF Fire Blast wrecks, even if it's off a Base 30 Special Attack stat. It can also OHKO non-specially defensive Roserade, which is impressive considering the bulk and lack of power.

Espeon: Magic Bounnnnnnnnnnnnnce

Absol: Decent Special Attack with good special movepool.

Garchomp: Is Base 80 Special Attack not enough? It also gets Earth Power, Draco Meteor, Fire Blast, SURF, etc.

Mega Garchomp: It has the bulk to do manual Sandstorm, but Base 120 Special Attack is already good on its own.

Nah, screw it. The metagame will be dominated by Blissey+Avalugg+Espeon+Taunter+filler+filler teams. Pretty much the only thing that can break that team is a Specs Kyurem-B after Blissey is SEVERLY weakened.

 

[PokemonMasterDebater]

Nah, screw it. The metagame will be dominated by Blissey+Avalugg+Espeon+Defogger+Taunter+hazard setter teams. Pretty much the only thing that can break that team is a Specs Kyurem-B after Blissey is SEVERLY weakened.

DOS. I LIED. Hazards are banned because otherwise Roar + Hazards would just wreck too much shit.

 

[AOPSUser]

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Yeah haha I just realized. I guess you don't need any of those. Also Shedinja has a field day here. Better start running those Leech Seeders!

 

[Loudo]

Toxic and similar forms of residual damage are probably going to be everywhere. Plus, the main attackers of the meta are Dragons (meaning they have very good reasons to use Fire attacks). Plus, special attacking Shedinja? What is it going to accomplish?
Shedinja looks rather worthless to be honest.

 

[Shiruba]

Hang on... Roserade gets Swords Dance, right?

How about...

Roserade@Leftovers
Ability: Technician
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd /
Adamant/Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Razor Leaf
- Poison Jab
- Sleep Powder

Maybe not the best coverage, but Technician boosts Razor Leaf to ~83 power sans STAB iirc, and with the crit boosts, this might secure some nice hax. Poison Jab is STAB with decent power, particularly since fairies are here. Sleep Powder is to incapacitate whatever you want, though you can of course use Substitute, Aromatherapy, use him as a weather setter... Whatever works for you, really.

 

[canno]

So Gardevoir seems pretty cool


Gardevoir @ Gardevoirite
Ability: Trace
EVs: 236 SDef / 252 HP / 20 Spd
Careful Nature
- Return / Body Slam
- Wish
- Will-O-Wisp
- Encore / Heal Bell / Taunt

Gardevoir @ Gardevoirite
Ability: Trace
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 Def
Jolly Nature
- Return / Double Edge
- Zen Headbutt
- Fire Punch / Ice Punch
- Healing Wish / Taunt / Ice Punch

Gardevoir has a nice 85 Attack after Megavolving, and a strong STAB Return thanks to Pixilate. Due to its nice bulk and the lack of power in the meta, a bulky set can work. However, a fully offensive set is also nice.

EDIT: Added Taunt like BLOOD TOTEM said - it's a good option as well.

 

[BLOOD TOTEM]

The Reptile, Taunt would probably be a good pick for Gardevoir too.

 

[EJ190]

Is megakhan banned?
Kangaskhan w/kangaskhanite
Modest/timid
252spatk 252spe
Seismic toss
Ice beam
Fire blast
Shadow ball/wish
328 spatk after pbond is decent and 200hp seismic toss are still good.
The moves speak for themselves really although tbolt or surf can be thrown in somewhere.

 

[Arcticblast]

Nah, screw it. The metagame will be dominated by Blissey+Avalugg+Espeon+Taunter+filler+filler teams. Pretty much the only thing that can break that team is a Specs Kyurem-B after Blissey is SEVERLY weakened.

+2 252 Atk Life Orb Keldeo Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Avalugg: 320-377 (81.2 - 95.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

You were saying?

SD Keldeo was basically the sweeper last generation. Destroys Blissey like nothing else and runs straight through anything that doesn't resist Close Combat. It has to be careful of Fairies now in addition to Shedinja, meaning it can't run Substitute as well any more, but it's still looking to be incredible this generation. Any team without Espeon, Gengar, Shedinja or a very bulky Roserade is looking to get run over, and even Espy/Gengar have to be pretty much pristine or they aren't taking an Aqua Jet. Shell Smash Omastar isn't quite as powerful, meaning it won't just run through Blissey and bulky physical walls, but it'll outspeed pretty much the entire tier and destroy anything not invested enough. There's even Curse + Heal Bell Musharna if you're not in the mood to miss a KO and die.

Also, the majority of the tier is Special. Considering the power of Breloom and Escavalier last generation, I doubt any team will have trouble with Avalugg in the slightest.

 

[Age of Kings]

Nitpick, but shouldn't Meloetta-P be banned since it can only be brought about by a special move? Meloetta is something I would use in this tier, it seems like a nice offensive pivot as Aria forme. Its weaknesses are rare and from what I see from this list is one of the few viable users of Knock Off in the tier, other than Gengar and Reuniclus. Meloetta has U-turn, power, and good coverage above these two, with a respectable mixture of bulk and speed.

Meloetta-Aria @ Life Orb/Leftovers
Adamant
252 Atk / 252 Speed

Knock Off
U-turn
Close Combat
Return

As one of the few viable Knock Off users, Meloetta can neuter the enemy's walls and keep momentum for the team with U-turn. For instance, Avalugg can hurt it but getting rid of its Leftovers can be invaluable. Return and CC calcs were promising and do a decent chunk of damage, the more entry hazards you have on the field the more 2HKOs turn into OHKOs. Life Orb for power, Leftovers if you have a more stallish team and prefer staying power.

I chose Adamant instead of Jolly for the power boost and not being entirely sure what Jolly is meant to outrun, it can beat neutral Kyurem but CC only 2HKOs. Shame it doesn't get SD, for boosting options you are stuck with Hone Claws and Work Up.

EDIT: I forgot hazards were banned so I edited accordingly. The more I think about it, the more a defensive spread seems viable. However, I would still opt for an offensive spread because although this set punches out more 2HKOs than OHKOs, I feel it is more beneficial to have that offensive presence as a pivot.

 

[Halliday]

Well, I don't think Melo-p is banned, just unusable, due to mechanics reasons.

 

[Temporaryanonymous]

This meta takes a long time, and this is speaking from experience. This meta invites boosting and things like toxic or seismic toss. That said, there are some creative sets like Curse Espeon (wow, back to gen two we go) and baton pass.

 

[TalkTakesTime]

/necrobump
Level 51
This will be available to play on Joim's Lab as soon as he updates it

 

[Kingpoleon]

The Kyurem's look really centralizing, have you considered banning them? Cube seems especially broken, being able to hit everything with Specs Draco Meteor/HP Poison or Steel/Earth Power/Focus Blast.

 

[Level 51]

The Kyurem's look really centralizing, have you considered banning them? Cube seems especially broken, being able to hit everything with Specs Draco Meteor/HP Poison or Steel/Earth Power/Focus Blast.

Which is why you run Blissey isn't it ?_?

ps. #offstat4omotm

 

[Arcticblast]

Yeah didn't we all agree Kyurem-B was borked as hell last gen?

Kyu-W on the other hand might be okay but...

 

[TalkTakesTime]

Yeah didn't we all agree Kyurem-B was borked as hell last gen?

Kyu-W on the other hand might be okay but...

I'd almost be inclined to say it was the other way, since at least there is a good special wall in Blissey (and also Garde got a buff with Fairy typing), although we do have Avalugg this gen I guess. We can always test it and if it's borked then let me know and I'll ban it on Joim's Lab
lgi OMotM next month

 

[Kingpoleon]

Every team must run a Blissey to deal with cube. Not broken.

 

[Caramelqueen]

Does Nature Power count as a special attacking move? It's a status move that transforms into a special move, so does it still count?

Otherwise it seems like it would work great with Roserade and it's naturally high special attack.