BH Yveltal [DONE]

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[SET]
name: Triage
move 1: Nasty Plot
move 2: Oblivion Wing
move 3: Earth Power / Lava Plume
move 4: Thunder Cage
item: Life Orb
ability: Triage
nature: Modest
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpA / 252 SpD / 252 Spe
ivs: 0 Atk

[SET COMMENTS]
Yveltal is an incredibly threatening wallbreaker and setup sweeper thanks to Triage-boosted STAB Oblivion Wing, which lets it out-prioritize Haze from opposing Prankster users. Simultaneously, it provides Yveltal with insane longevity to repeatedly keep boosting with Nasty Plot and firing off Life Orb-boosted attacks throughout the battle. Earth Power or Lava Plume give it crucial coverage against the metagame's Flying-resistant foes, such as Magearna and Registeel; the former also hits Zekrom and Dialga, while the latter can burn foes to give Yveltal more setup opportunities. Thunder Cage lets Yveltal spread chip damage to defensive foes and force them to recover more often, which either gives Yveltal free turns to set up, provide safe switches for its teammates, or waste the foe's recovery move PP over longer games. Thunder Cage is also an ideal midground option in most situations due to the guaranteed chip damage while preventing the foe from double switching afterwards. It also has an additional benefit of threatening to OHKO Celesteela at +2. Yveltal appreciates teammates that can weaken specially defensive Pokemon like Ice Scales users, RegenVest users, and Imposter Chansey; teammates like Zamazenta-C and Regigigas can cripple them with Knock Off, while Final Gambit Eternatus and mixed Xerneas can lure in and severely damage them for Yveltal. Pixilate Xerneas is one of the best checks to Yveltal, as it can comfortably survive a +2 Oblivion Wing and retaliate with Boomburt; thus, pairing Yveltal with Magic Bounce Fire-types like Ho-Oh and the rare Zen Mode Darmanitan can limit Xerneas's recovery by blocking its Strength Sap, making it easier to chip down. Due to its vulnerability against Imposter users, Yveltal necessitates a strong defensive backbone, such as with Unaware users or Imposter Chansey.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[royalfluxh, 493260]]
- Quality checked by: [[Tea Guzzler, 577920], [MAMP, 225453]]
- Grammar checked by: [[UT, 523866]]
 
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- i'd probably add a few more slashes (the suggested set is a little outdated). lava plume and secret sword are options over earth power (burn stuff so spamming plot in front of them is free and hits regenvest dialga's defense, respectively), cage can also be sludge wave so you can remove a paralysed xerneas without being forced out.
- thunder cage is used mostly for the trapping element rather than hitting flying types (sole exception is celesteela), so i'd probably just re-structure the sentence to something like "Thunder Cage lets Yveltal trap and either set up on or eliminate weakened targets, with the additional benefit of threatening a one-hit KO on Celesteela." if you look here and here, you can see that even if yveltal reads the imposter switch with +2 cage it can still lose (if cage misses, imp crits(?) or if imp wins the second speed tie), so I would probably specify that Cage can finish off a weakened imposter.
- triage's main niche is that you're a boosting threat that out-prioritizes Prankster, so i would probably mention this in the first few lines.
- the best support that yveltal can get is things that remove or injure scales/regenvest/zyg-c, so special wallbreakers like final gambit etern and mixed xerneas are likely the most applicable. knock off is great for removing assault vest/chansey's eviolite. fwiw TC zama-c and SD zac are mostly late-game sweepers.
- xerneas can hard-switch in on yveltal and threaten it out with boomburst (as it lives +2 o-wing), so if you're not running para + sludge wave then magic bounce is useful to stop xern from healing. bounce ho-oh is the most common, however pretty much any fairy resist will do (you can even do min-attack mons like darm-z). i'd probably change the defensive ho-oh sentence to something like "Xerneas can switch into Yveltal on the turn it uses Nasty Plot, live Oblivion Wing and OHKO back with Boomburst, so teammates that can limit it's recovery like Magic Bounce Ho-Oh and Prankster Darmanitan-Z are useful.". since bounce users don't normally run hazards, you can also drop the end but of that sentence.
- improofing is really annoying for this set. cage variants need unaware or imposter chansey, other variants need bulky ice scales mons like zama-c or eternatus (AV is normally insufficient and you need to give free turns switching to heal). current selection don't work massively well as groudon is comparatively frail even with scales and zygarde-c doesn't threaten back much + gives imposter loads of healing.

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-sludge wave and secret sword are both fringe options that i dont think are worth slashing

-thunder cage is a difficult move to write about succinctly, but the current sentence youve got on it doesnt really get across the utility of the move. the main benefits of it are 1) the passive damage forces defensive opponents to recover more often, which gives yveltal crucial free turns to boost, safe switches to teammates, and can wear down recovery pp over long games and 2) it's an ideal midground play in a ton of situations bc it does good chip to everything that wants to switch into yveltal and prevents double switches. also it only ohkos celesteela at +2.

the rest is all good qc 2/2
 

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[SET]
name: Triage
move 1: Nasty Plot
move 2: Oblivion Wing
move 3: Earth Power / Lava Plume
move 4: Thunder Cage
item: Life Orb
ability: Triage
nature: Modest
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 252 SpA / 252 SpD / 252 Spe
ivs: 0 Atk

[SET COMMENTS]
Yveltal is an incredibly threatening wallbreaker and setup sweeper thanks to Triage-boosted STAB Oblivion Wing further enhanced by Triage, which lets it out-prioritize Haze from opposing Prankster users. Simultaneously, it provides Yveltal with insane longevity to repeatedly keep boosting with Nasty Plot and fire firing off Life Orb-boosted attacks throughout the battle. Earth Power or Secret Sword Lava Plume gives it crucial coverage against the metagame's Flying-resistant foes, such as Magearna and Registeel; the former also hits Zekrom and Dialga, while the latter can cripple its burn foes to give Yveltal more setup opportunities. Thunder Cage lets Yveltal spread chip damage to defensive foes and force them to recover their health more often, which either gives Yveltal free turns to set up, provide safe switches for its teammates, and or waste the foe's recovery move PP over longer games. Thunder Cage is also an ideal midground option in most situations due to the guaranteed chip damage while preventing the foe from double switching afterwards. It also has an additional benefit of threatening an to OHKO on Celesteela at +2. Yveltal appreciates teammates that can weaken specially defensive Pokemon like Ice Scales users, RegenVest users, and Imposter Chansey; teammates like Zamazenta-C and Regigigas can cripple them with Knock Off, while Final Gambit Eternatus and mixed Xerneas can lure in and severely damage them for Yveltal. Pixilate Xerneas is one of the best checks to Yveltal, (comma) as it can comfortably survive a +2 Oblivion Wing and retaliate with Boomburt; thus, pairing Yveltal with Magic Bounce Fire-types like Ho-Oh or and the rare Zen Mode Darmanitan can limit Xerneas's recovery by blocking its Strength Sap, making it easier to chip down. Due to its vulnerability against Imposter users, Yveltal necessitates a strong defensive backbone, such as with Unaware users or Imposter Chansey.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[royalfluxh, 493260]]
- Quality checked by: [[Tea Guzzler, 577920], [MAMP, 225453]]
- Grammar checked by: [[UT, 523866]]

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