OU Stats (June 2013)

[ZandgaiaX]

For one, you could just use 1850 stats and I feel like you'd end up with a better OU tier.

Did you bother to read his entire post? He clearly says that:

Ok, it seems important to let it know for all these which didn't read the weighted stats FAQ : 1850 stats are NOT stats weighted around 1850.
So-called "1850 stats" are weighted around 1500. It means in particular that the first match of every new account will have his mon weighted with 50%, and that someone with a deviation of, say 100, and a rating say of 1600, will count at 83%.
So-called "1850 stats" allow to takes out the worst player who spam their beloved bad mon or random bad teams, but they shouldn't be seen as "what good players plays".

Quoting half his post just in case you didn't even bother to check it even if I say so.

And honestly the OU tier would be not that different, whether it's the complete or the 1850 stats. The only important difference being marginal, like a single pokémon dropping: like Gastrodon. The largest difference between 1850 and regular stats are the percentages

 

[asbdsp]

Did you bother to read his entire post? He clearly says that:




Quoting half his post just in case you didn't even bother to check it even if I say so.

And honestly the OU tier would be not that different, whether it's the complete or the 1850 stats. The only important difference being marginal, like a single pokémon dropping: like Gastrodon. The largest difference between 1850 and regular stats are the percentages

I read the post, lol. It still doesn't change the fact that the stats that are currently used for tiering don't have as strong of a weight for the skill of players using the pokes. And I didn't claim to have a problem with what the current OU tier is, just how it is determined. I think we can agree that its not hard to imagine a situation in the future where a large difference between the two types of stats would lead to differences in tiering? And if those differences are being caused almost entirely by non-competitive players brainlessly using their favorites, then surely that should be looked at as a target for improvement?

 

[Shurtugal]

There should be 1950 stats instead with a filtered GLICKO rating. Mind you, I don't ladder on PS so I am only assuming that 1950 is the equivalent to 1500 on PO (aka page 1 material).

 

[Oddish is the best]

stall......................... 2.63887% I really hope/wish that Stall becomes a lot more viable next gen as it is a very difficult playstyle to pull off ATM and some of my favorite mons work well on stall teams.

 

[MatchMaster]

Late, but I still have comments to make about the metagame.

| Cloyster | +1.65223% |

Noobs.That's all I can say about it. Even if they don't have much success with it, they may keep it on their team. Cloyster is simply too high-risk, high reward.

| Infernape | +1.25895% |

See 1850 stats if you're so upset about how high this is. Mostly outclassed because of those average 104 offensive stats.

| Gengar | +0.89504% |

I somewhat agree with this, as it does screw over choice users. Still is vulnerable to priority and Pursuit.

| Conkeldurr | +0.66482% |

Have to agree with the slight rise. Switches in and kills Ferrothorn pretty easily, and SF is underrated IMO. More than once I've expected a BU or status orb set and instead got it. Still doesn't deserve to be top 10 because it gets destroyed by a decently healthy Latios.

And I saw this in 1850 stats:
| 2 | Tyranitar | 20.57968% | 231780 | 12.881% | 199086 | 13.777% |

Not sure if T-tar deserves to be #2. Most of them I see seem to be solely for Pursuit-catching. My experience with support sets haven't come out too well, so it is somewhat one-dimensional.

 

[Oddish is the best]

My list of pokemon that are terribly underused, I might add explanations later, but most of them are rather obvious.

| 40 | Lucario | 5.73609% | 114794 | 6.379% | 88816 | 6.146% |
| 45 | Kyurem-Black | 5.26810% | 85450 | 4.749% | 65205 | 4.512% |
| 50 | Reuniclus | 3.82256% | 63171 | 3.511% | 48723 | 3.372% |
| 52 | Weavile | 2.83340% | 55448 | 3.081% | 43505 | 3.011% |
| 58 | Abomasnow | 2.22818% | 38203 | 2.123% | 34590 | 2.394% |
| 64 | Mew | 1.90858% | 37448 | 2.081% | 31583 | 2.186% |
| 74 | Zapdos | 1.57430% | 28960 | 1.609% | 23602 | 1.633% |
| 76 | Stoutland | 1.52345% | 20317 | 1.129% | 15000 | 1.038% |
| 91 | Gothitelle | 1.17286% | 17931 | 0.996% | 14415 | 0.998% |
| 95 | Amoonguss | 1.06580% | 15945 | 0.886% | 13199 | 0.913% |
| 96 | Roserade | 1.06496% | 23095 | 1.283% | 18565 | 1.285% |
| 104 | Raikou | 0.95018% | 16965 | 0.943% | 13416 | 0.928% |
| 106 | Sharpedo | 0.86161% | 17393 | 0.967% | 13303 | 0.921% |
| 114 | Feraligatr | 0.74040% | 16828 | 0.935% | 13227 | 0.915% |
| 116 | Virizion | 0.69307% | 11814 | 0.657% | 9014 | 0.624% |
| 123 | Victreebel | 0.60835% | 9859 | 0.548% | 7286 | 0.504% |
| 125 | Slowking | 0.58903% | 12034 | 0.669% | 10011 | 0.693% |
| 133 | Tangrowth | 0.52772% | 11366 | 0.632% | 8622 | 0.597% |
| 134 | Rotom-Heat | 0.52469% | 10485 | 0.583% | 8652 | 0.599% |
| 150 | Cobalion | 0.42256% | 7938 | 0.441% | 6407 | 0.443% |
| 155 | Shaymin | 0.39473% | 7054 | 0.392% | 5492 | 0.380% |
| 209 | Escavalier | 0.15578% | 4407 | 0.245% | 3463 | 0.240% |
| 245 | Spinda | 0.08848% | 2975 | 0.165% | 2452 | 0.170% |

30% (or close to) of these pokemon are grass types which I agree are underrated in the current metagame.
| 61 | Chansey | 2.066% | I really wish that Chansey had more usage because IMO it is better than Blissey. I think that Blissey should have less usage while Chansey should be in OU.

 

[Princess Bubblegum]

| 61 | Chansey | 2.066% | I really wish that Chansey had more usage because IMO it is better than Blissey. I think that Blissey should be BL while Chansey should be in OU.

That's nice honey, how about you come back here and tell us all about it after you run a Chansey on a sand or hail team, heck any team not rain and sun.

 

[Oddish is the best]

That's nice honey, how about you come back here and tell us all about it after you run a Chansey on a sand or hail team, heck any team not rain and sun.

Umm you wouldn't run Chansey on a hail or sand team but the combined usage of hail/sand is 20% which means that you could in theory run it on 80% of teams. Chansey is viable on rain and sun teams as well as weatherless and my point being that I find Chansey better than Blissey. Do I think that Chansey is a top rank pokemon? No but I just think it is better than Blissey which btw most people don't run Blissey on a sand or hail team anyways. I get that Chansey struggles against residual damage but IMO I think it is a better mixed wall than blissey.

 

[ZandgaiaX]

Umm you wouldn't run Chansey on a hail or sand team but the combined usage of hail/sand is 20% which means that you could in theory run it on 80% of teams. Chansey is viable on rain and sun teams as well as weatherless and my point being that I find Chansey better than Blissey. Do I think that Chansey is a top rank pokemon? No but I just think it is better than Blissey which btw most people don't run Blissey on a sand or hail team anyways. I get that Chansey struggles against residual damage but IMO I think it is a better mixed wall than blissey.

Hey look bolded words!
1) In theory Terrakion, Breloom, Scizor, Jirachi, Dragonite, Gyarados, Kyurem and Keldeo can be run on every team. But are they? One can not simply say that a pokémon can in theory be run in a certain percentage of teams, as if almost every team can use Chansey. Hint: they can't. I personally run defensive Breloom, Terrakion AND Kyurem and Chansey is just a sad attempt at walling any of them. Chansey (and Blissey) are not good enough in this meta, and should only be ran on teams that can actually support it, not just slapped on every possible team like it's bloody Ferrothorn.
2)You find Chansey better than Blissey, in general people find Blissey better than Chansey. The general people run Blissey more than Chansey, Blissey is OU thanks to usage, Chansey ain't. Personal preference is not something that you should use to emphasize your statement. Yes you can state your opinion, but don't base part of your argument around it.
3) 'Most' people don't run Blissey on sun either, and I've personally only seen a single Blissey on rain. They were all on weatherless teams.
4) Mixed wall? Excuse me while I laugh a little. Chansey can't do shit against a high amount of pokémon, because all it can do is sit there using Wish + Protect, with the occasional Seismic Toss and Toxic. Fighting Types and, lately, Substitutes are all over the place. Chansey takes hit, but then what? All it can do is sit there doing fuck all other than take damage again and again, it brings barely any support to the table with a moveset of Wish/Protect/Seismic Toss/Toxic or Stealth Rock. Yes it can wall and do a teensy weensy damage, but then what, please enlighten me.

Edit: also SS is NOT run in a measly 20-ish percent of the teams, not to mention the opposing team might have SS as well

Also I'm not mad, I'm just stating my personal experience here.

 

[Spinda]

I personally run Chansey on Sun and Rain while running Blissey on Weatherless, Sand and Hail, if I do actually end up using a blob.. Even in stall it's often hard to fit a blob on your team, and I'm surprised one of them has managed not to drop to BL, as I'm far more likely to use a Roserade, Amoonguss, or Tangrowth on any random team than I would a Blissey.
Oh right, here's why I think the pokes are underrated, the descriptions are a bit rushed but whatever.
| 40 | Lucario | 5.73609% | 114794 | 6.379% | 88816 | 6.146% |
Is honestly one of the best late-game sweepers you can get if your team packs spike support, Swords dance, 2 powerful priority moves ( Okay, Bullet Punch really isn't THAT powerful, but it's STAB, okay? ), a solid fighting STAB in close combat that can OHKO Skarmory after rocks at +2, bullet punch + espeed makes revenging it such a massive headache.. It appreciates a lure like E-Belt rachi or LO Hp ICE terrakion to do it's job, though. Despite the support it often needs, it's still an incredibly solid pokemon and in my opinion massively underused.
| 45 | Kyurem-Black | 5.26810% | 85450 | 4.749% | 65205 | 4.512% |
Most OP pokemon in OU right now, base stats aren't everything but hello? 700 BST. Its movepool might seem lackluster at first, but it has what it needs to do what it does best.
Mixed sets 2HKOing the entire metagame, while sporting 125/100/90 defenses.. This combination of power and bulk is something we've NEVER seen in OU before.. However, if mixed sets aren't really your thing.. The Choice Band set still has a chance of OHKOing physically defensive skarmory with a Non-STAB Fusion Bolt, is guaranteed to 2HKO specially defensive Heatran after rocks with OUTRAGE, and has a respectable chance of doing so without them
| 50 | Reuniclus | 3.82256% | 63171 | 3.511% | 48723 | 3.372% |
Maybe Reuniclus isn't what it used to be back in BW1.. And the Calm Mind set tends to end up being dead weight.. But the OTR set is still incredibly solid, it's a nightmare to the offensive teams that have been swarming the metagame.
| 52 | Weavile | 2.83340% | 55448 | 3.081% | 43505 | 3.011% |
Slightly less useful with Landorus-I out of the picture, no longer revenging rock polish sets or supporting them by pursuit trapping.. It still does what it does best though, an excellent fast pursuit trapper that can also revenge a plethora of dragon types in OU using ice shard.. While receiving some competition for both pursuit and ice shard, it's the only one who can do both so effectively and should always be considered.
| 58 | Abomasnow | 2.22818% | 38203 | 2.123% | 34590 | 2.394% |
Oh Abomasnow.. Your typing might not be amazing defensively, but Ice is one of the best, if not the best offensive types to have, and you also have a water resistance, which is incredibly key in the current metagame.. That combined with Snow Warning which helps your team keep weather control makes you so amazing, Hail is the most uncommon weather and is often used only for weather control, so there is only a small chance your opponent will be benefiting from the weather you put up, you're also a great revenge killer for the abundance of dragons in the metagame while also posing of a water check, getting rid of the rain and resisting their STAB
| 64 | Mew | 1.90858% | 37448 | 2.081% | 31583 | 2.186% |
The epitome of unpredictability.. I always feel a little bit unsure when I face a Mew, it has so many options, and no matter what I switch into it, I always have a fear that I might have screwed up.. It can make an amazing Nasty Plot Sweeper, an amazing stallbreaker, an amazing baton passer, an amazing all out attacker ( specified for what your team needs ), and a decent swords dancer.. I'm sure I haven't even mentioned half of the roles Mew can effectively serve, and its sheer versatility often makes your opponents crumble.
| 74 | Zapdos | 1.57430% | 28960 | 1.609% | 23602 | 1.633% |
Specially defensive Zapdos.. If you're looking for a rain offense check, look no further. Breloom? Checked. Tornadus? Checked. Scizor? Checked. Water types? Hi I have an Electric STAB coming from a base 125 SpA, what's up? Roost and superior bulk really helps it stand apart from Thundurus-T
| 76 | Stoutland | 1.52345% | 20317 | 1.129% | 15000 | 1.038% |
Uhm.. Hi. I have 518 Speed in Sand and about 450 attack when banded. This guy might not like priority, but it's hands down one of the best revenge killers and cleaners sand has, Normal type actually doesn't have bad neutral coverage at all, and with Return, Superpower, Wild Charge, and Pursuit this guy is definitely a force to be reckoned with.
| 91 | Gothitelle | 1.17286% | 17931 | 0.996% | 14415 | 0.998% |
Only pokemon with shadow tag and an actual movepool, giving it the unique trait of trapping and killing just whatever your team has problems with using your own specialised moveset.
| 95 | Amoonguss | 1.06580% | 15945 | 0.886% | 13199 | 0.913% |
Base 114 HP, decent mixed bulk, a typing that makes keldeo cry, spore, and regenerator.. What else could you POSSIBLY need?
| 96 | Roserade | 1.06496% | 23095 | 1.283% | 18565 | 1.285% |
Any pokemon that doesn't fear switching into scald is a good pokemon in my book.. But Natural cure isn't the only thing it has going for it, it makes a great keldeo and general water type check, can set both spikes and toxic spikes, gets weather ball, sleep powder, base 125 SpA and base 105 SpD.. A well played Roserade can give water types nightmares.
| 104 | Raikou | 0.95018% | 16965 | 0.943% | 13416 | 0.928% |
Great speed tier, great natural special bulk, 115 SpA STAB Thunders, Signal beam for Celebi, Calm Mind if you want to go that route.. You could even trade your 115 base speed for the amazing moves weather ball ( which gives you a better hp ice in hail and an incredibly powerful water type move in rain ), and aura sphere which makes Tyranitar cry, while still managing to outspeed base 100s.
| 106 | Sharpedo | 0.86161% | 17393 | 0.967% | 13303 | 0.921% |
Priority weak, incredibly frail, but DAMN.. Can you say lategame cleaner? This guy has a massive power in rain and the zen headbutt set has claimed thousands of unsuspecting keldeo.
| 114 | Feraligatr | 0.74040% | 16828 | 0.935% | 13227 | 0.915% |
Swords Dance Feraligatr.. It has a great 85/100/83 bulk which allows it to easily take a few hits and drop to torrent range, combined with swords dance this just becomes a massive powerhouse, even rotom-w won't be appreciating those torrent boosted Aqua Jets +2 252+ Atk Mystic Water Torrent Feraligatr Aqua Jet vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Rotom-W in rain: 158-186 (65.28 - 76.85%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
| 116 | Virizion | 0.69307% | 11814 | 0.657% | 9014 | 0.624% |
Amazing special defense combined with the rare grass/fighting type makes it a great Rain AND Sand check. If only it appreciated taking Scalds, but almost nothing does..
| 123 | Victreebel | 0.60835% | 9859 | 0.548% | 7286 | 0.504% |
Superior mixed attacking stats to Venusaur with the same ability, same typing, Power whip, Weather ball ( which allows it to run hp ice without worrying about being walled by pesky steels ), and Sucker Punch in exchange for some speed and well, a lot of bulk... Nevertheless it should always be an option to be considered as chlorophyll sweepers on your sun team.
| 125 | Slowking | 0.58903% | 12034 | 0.669% | 10011 | 0.693% |
Regenerator, great special bulk, and a water/psychic typing means it makes keldeo, and a bunch of other water types cry. It could make a special wall or a OTR set that also serves as an amazing offensive pivot thanks to regenerator.
| 133 | Tangrowth | 0.52772% | 11366 | 0.632% | 8622 | 0.597% |
A Physical bulk that makes even Skarmory jealous combined with regenerator and sleep powder gives the majority of physical attackers a massive headache, sponging hits and gaining its health back just by switching out.
| 134 | Rotom-Heat | 0.52469% | 10485 | 0.583% | 8652 | 0.599% |
Great check to the likes of thundurus-t, venusaur, volcarona, ninetales, along with volt switch for momentum, a respectable 50/107/107 bulk and a unique typing..
| 150 | Cobalion | 0.42256% | 7938 | 0.441% | 6407 | 0.443% |
4x SR resistance, amazing physical bulk and volt switch allow it to be a good physically defensive pivot.
| 155 | Shaymin | 0.39473% | 7054 | 0.392% | 5492 | 0.380% |
THIS THING CAN SWITCH INTO SCALDS!@! Srsly though, just about every grass type would kill for natural cure, it has amazing stats, and while it faces competition from celebi, between seed flare and actually being able to take a signal beam or u-turn it's formed a good niche for itself.
| 209 | Escavalier | 0.15578% | 4407 | 0.245% | 3463 | 0.240% |
Slow.. But nothing appreciates a CB megahorn from this thing, it has a lot of competition from Scizor but Scizor is less bulky and doesn't have the raw power Escavalier has
252 SpA Choice Specs Latios Draco Meteor vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Escavalier: 163-192 (47.52 - 55.97%) --
252 SpA Choice Specs Latios Draco Meteor vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Scizor: 204-240 (59.47 - 69.97%) --
Yep, Escavalier actually avoids the 2HKO after rocks 100% of the time.
How about offensively though?
252+ Atk Choice Band Escavalier Megahorn vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Scizor: 165-195 (48.1 - 56.85%) -- 90.63% chance to 2HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Escavalier Megahorn vs. 232 HP / 0 Def Rotom-W: 313-369 (104.68 - 123.41%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Escavalier Return vs. 252 HP / 236+ Def Tentacruel: 180-212 (49.45 - 58.24%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and weather
252+ Atk Choice Band Escavalier Megahorn vs. 252 HP / 88+ Def Ferrothorn: 222-262 (63.06 - 74.43%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Enough said.
| 245 | Spinda | 0.08848% | 2975 | 0.165% | 2452 | 0.170% |
Who would want to attack this cute critter? People would be forced to forfeit, not wanting to hurt something so cute.

 

[Oddish is the best]

Hey look bolded words!
1) In theory Terrakion, Breloom, Scizor, Jirachi, Dragonite, Gyarados, Kyurem and Keldeo can be run on every team. But are they? One can not simply say that a pokémon can in theory be run in a certain percentage of teams, as if almost every team can use Chansey. Hint: they can't. I personally run defensive Breloom, Terrakion AND Kyurem and Chansey is just a sad attempt at walling any of them. Chansey (and Blissey) are not good enough in this meta, and should only be ran on teams that can actually support it, not just slapped on every possible team like it's bloody Ferrothorn.
2)You find Chansey better than Blissey, in general people find Blissey better than Chansey. The general people run Blissey more than Chansey, Blissey is OU thanks to usage, Chansey ain't. Personal preference is not something that you should use to emphasize your statement. Yes you can state your opinion, but don't base part of your argument around it.
3) 'Most' people don't run Blissey on sun either, and I've personally only seen a single Blissey on rain. They were all on weatherless teams.
4) Mixed wall? Excuse me while I laugh a little. Chansey can't do shit against a high amount of pokémon, because all it can do is sit there using Wish + Protect, with the occasional Seismic Toss and Toxic. Fighting Types and, lately, Substitutes are all over the place. Chansey takes hit, but then what? All it can do is sit there doing fuck all other than take damage again and again, it brings barely any support to the table with a moveset of Wish/Protect/Seismic Toss/Toxic or Stealth Rock. Yes it can wall and do a teensy weensy damage, but then what, please enlighten me.

Edit: also SS is NOT run in a measly 20-ish percent of the teams, not to mention the opposing team might have SS as well

Also I'm not mad, I'm just stating my personal experience here.

I respect your opinion but from my personal experiences I've found Chansey to be better. I guess more people find Blissey more useful (lefties,stronger attacking options) but Chansey with Evo stone had the equivalent of 50 not defense and 104 more base special defense I'm pretty sure. I will agree though that Blissey might be the better option at higher levels of play due to the prevalence of SS higher up on the ladder but in general I think they should be seeing not very much usage anyways because they are a little to passive for the meta game and Chansey can't fit in in the most common/best stall (sand stall) while Blissey could in theory. Either way I'm thinking now that you would want Chansey for a straight up sponge while playing Blissey for stronger attacking options, and lefties.

 

[Oddish is the best]

I personally run Chansey on Sun and Rain while running Blissey on Weatherless, Sand and Hail, if I do actually end up using a blob.. Even in stall it's often hard to fit a blob on your team, and I'm surprised one of them has managed not to drop to BL, as I'm far more likely to use a Roserade, Amoonguss, or Tangrowth on any random team than I would a Blissey.
Oh right, here's why I think the pokes are underrated, the descriptions are a bit rushed but whatever.
| 40 | Lucario | 5.73609% | 114794 | 6.379% | 88816 | 6.146% |
Is honestly one of the best late-game sweepers you can get if your team packs spike support, Swords dance, 2 powerful priority moves ( Okay, Bullet Punch really isn't THAT powerful, but it's STAB, okay? ), a solid fighting STAB in close combat that can OHKO Skarmory after rocks at +2, bullet punch + espeed makes revenging it such a massive headache.. It appreciates a lure like E-Belt rachi or LO Hp ICE terrakion to do it's job, though. Despite the support it often needs, it's still an incredibly solid pokemon and in my opinion massively underused.
| 45 | Kyurem-Black | 5.26810% | 85450 | 4.749% | 65205 | 4.512% |
Most OP pokemon in OU right now, base stats aren't everything but hello? 700 BST. Its movepool might seem lackluster at first, but it has what it needs to do what it does best.
Mixed sets 2HKOing the entire metagame, while sporting 125/100/90 defenses.. This combination of power and bulk is something we've NEVER seen in OU before.. However, if mixed sets aren't really your thing.. The Choice Band set still has a chance of OHKOing physically defensive skarmory with a Non-STAB Fusion Bolt, is guaranteed to 2HKO specially defensive Heatran after rocks with OUTRAGE, and has a respectable chance of doing so without them
| 50 | Reuniclus | 3.82256% | 63171 | 3.511% | 48723 | 3.372% |
Maybe Reuniclus isn't what it used to be back in BW1.. And the Calm Mind set tends to end up being dead weight.. But the OTR set is still incredibly solid, it's a nightmare to the offensive teams that have been swarming the metagame.
| 52 | Weavile | 2.83340% | 55448 | 3.081% | 43505 | 3.011% |
Slightly less useful with Landorus-I out of the picture, no longer revenging rock polish sets or supporting them by pursuit trapping.. It still does what it does best though, an excellent fast pursuit trapper that can also revenge a plethora of dragon types in OU using ice shard.. While receiving some competition for both pursuit and ice shard, it's the only one who can do both so effectively and should always be considered.
| 58 | Abomasnow | 2.22818% | 38203 | 2.123% | 34590 | 2.394% |
Oh Abomasnow.. Your typing might not be amazing defensively, but Ice is one of the best, if not the best offensive types to have, and you also have a water resistance, which is incredibly key in the current metagame.. That combined with Snow Warning which helps your team keep weather control makes you so amazing, Hail is the most uncommon weather and is often used only for weather control, so there is only a small chance your opponent will be benefiting from the weather you put up, you're also a great revenge killer for the abundance of dragons in the metagame while also posing of a water check, getting rid of the rain and resisting their STAB
| 64 | Mew | 1.90858% | 37448 | 2.081% | 31583 | 2.186% |
The epitome of unpredictability.. I always feel a little bit unsure when I face a Mew, it has so many options, and no matter what I switch into it, I always have a fear that I might have screwed up.. It can make an amazing Nasty Plot Sweeper, an amazing stallbreaker, an amazing baton passer, an amazing all out attacker ( specified for what your team needs ), and a decent swords dancer.. I'm sure I haven't even mentioned half of the roles Mew can effectively serve, and its sheer versatility often makes your opponents crumble.
| 74 | Zapdos | 1.57430% | 28960 | 1.609% | 23602 | 1.633% |
Specially defensive Zapdos.. If you're looking for a rain offense check, look no further. Breloom? Checked. Tornadus? Checked. Scizor? Checked. Water types? Hi I have an Electric STAB coming from a base 125 SpA, what's up? Roost and superior bulk really helps it stand apart from Thundurus-T
| 76 | Stoutland | 1.52345% | 20317 | 1.129% | 15000 | 1.038% |
Uhm.. Hi. I have 518 Speed in Sand and about 450 attack when banded. This guy might not like priority, but it's hands down one of the best revenge killers and cleaners sand has, Normal type actually doesn't have bad neutral coverage at all, and with Return, Superpower, Wild Charge, and Pursuit this guy is definitely a force to be reckoned with.
| 91 | Gothitelle | 1.17286% | 17931 | 0.996% | 14415 | 0.998% |
Only pokemon with shadow tag and an actual movepool, giving it the unique trait of trapping and killing just whatever your team has problems with using your own specialised moveset.
| 95 | Amoonguss | 1.06580% | 15945 | 0.886% | 13199 | 0.913% |
Base 114 HP, decent mixed bulk, a typing that makes keldeo cry, spore, and regenerator.. What else could you POSSIBLY need?
| 96 | Roserade | 1.06496% | 23095 | 1.283% | 18565 | 1.285% |
Any pokemon that doesn't fear switching into scald is a good pokemon in my book.. But Natural cure isn't the only thing it has going for it, it makes a great keldeo and general water type check, can set both spikes and toxic spikes, gets weather ball, sleep powder, base 125 SpA and base 105 SpD.. A well played Roserade can give water types nightmares.
| 104 | Raikou | 0.95018% | 16965 | 0.943% | 13416 | 0.928% |
Great speed tier, great natural special bulk, 115 SpA STAB Thunders, Signal beam for Celebi, Calm Mind if you want to go that route.. You could even trade your 115 base speed for the amazing moves weather ball ( which gives you a better hp ice in hail and an incredibly powerful water type move in rain ), and aura sphere which makes Tyranitar cry, while still managing to outspeed base 100s.
| 106 | Sharpedo | 0.86161% | 17393 | 0.967% | 13303 | 0.921% |
Priority weak, incredibly frail, but DAMN.. Can you say lategame cleaner? This guy has a massive power in rain and the zen headbutt set has claimed thousands of unsuspecting keldeo.
| 114 | Feraligatr | 0.74040% | 16828 | 0.935% | 13227 | 0.915% |
Swords Dance Feraligatr.. It has a great 85/100/83 bulk which allows it to easily take a few hits and drop to torrent range, combined with swords dance this just becomes a massive powerhouse, even rotom-w won't be appreciating those torrent boosted Aqua Jets +2 252+ Atk Mystic Water Torrent Feraligatr Aqua Jet vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Rotom-W in rain: 158-186 (65.28 - 76.85%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
| 116 | Virizion | 0.69307% | 11814 | 0.657% | 9014 | 0.624% |
Amazing special defense combined with the rare grass/fighting type makes it a great Rain AND Sand check. If only it appreciated taking Scalds, but almost nothing does..
| 123 | Victreebel | 0.60835% | 9859 | 0.548% | 7286 | 0.504% |
Superior mixed attacking stats to Venusaur with the same ability, same typing, Power whip, Weather ball ( which allows it to run hp ice without worrying about being walled by pesky steels ), and Sucker Punch in exchange for some speed and well, a lot of bulk... Nevertheless it should always be an option to be considered as chlorophyll sweepers on your sun team.
| 125 | Slowking | 0.58903% | 12034 | 0.669% | 10011 | 0.693% |
Regenerator, great special bulk, and a water/psychic typing means it makes keldeo, and a bunch of other water types cry. It could make a special wall or a OTR set that also serves as an amazing offensive pivot thanks to regenerator.
| 133 | Tangrowth | 0.52772% | 11366 | 0.632% | 8622 | 0.597% |
A Physical bulk that makes even Skarmory jealous combined with regenerator and sleep powder gives the majority of physical attackers a massive headache, sponging hits and gaining its health back just by switching out.
| 134 | Rotom-Heat | 0.52469% | 10485 | 0.583% | 8652 | 0.599% |
Great check to the likes of thundurus-t, venusaur, volcarona, ninetales, along with volt switch for momentum, a respectable 50/107/107 bulk and a unique typing..
| 150 | Cobalion | 0.42256% | 7938 | 0.441% | 6407 | 0.443% |
4x SR resistance, amazing physical bulk and volt switch allow it to be a good physically defensive pivot.
| 155 | Shaymin | 0.39473% | 7054 | 0.392% | 5492 | 0.380% |
THIS THING CAN SWITCH INTO SCALDS!@! Srsly though, just about every grass type would kill for natural cure, it has amazing stats, and while it faces competition from celebi, between seed flare and actually being able to take a signal beam or u-turn it's formed a good niche for itself.
| 209 | Escavalier | 0.15578% | 4407 | 0.245% | 3463 | 0.240% |
Slow.. But nothing appreciates a CB megahorn from this thing, it has a lot of competition from Scizor but Scizor is less bulky and doesn't have the raw power Escavalier has
252 SpA Choice Specs Latios Draco Meteor vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Escavalier: 163-192 (47.52 - 55.97%) --
252 SpA Choice Specs Latios Draco Meteor vs. 248 HP / 8 SpD Scizor: 204-240 (59.47 - 69.97%) --
Yep, Escavalier actually avoids the 2HKO after rocks 100% of the time.
How about offensively though?
252+ Atk Choice Band Escavalier Megahorn vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Scizor: 165-195 (48.1 - 56.85%) -- 90.63% chance to 2HKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Escavalier Megahorn vs. 232 HP / 0 Def Rotom-W: 313-369 (104.68 - 123.41%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Choice Band Escavalier Return vs. 252 HP / 236+ Def Tentacruel: 180-212 (49.45 - 58.24%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and weather
252+ Atk Choice Band Escavalier Megahorn vs. 252 HP / 88+ Def Ferrothorn: 222-262 (63.06 - 74.43%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Enough said.
| 245 | Spinda | 0.08848% | 2975 | 0.165% | 2452 | 0.170% |
Who would want to attack this cute critter? People would be forced to forfeit, not wanting to hurt something so cute.

I have to agree with these especially Stoutland and Roserade. Roserade is great at countering Grass,Water, and Electric types giving it ample opportunities to switch in. The only problem with Roserade is that depending on what hidden power you run she will either be set up on by steel types or dragon types. Either way she is still a reliable toxic spikes setter with sleep powder as well as serving as a great special wall.
Stoutland is a great cleaner and I run that same exact set on it and it works wonders! However, if you lose the weather war then Stoutland becomes kinda dead weight (Which is why I use Hippowdon as my sand starter). I generally think that most Grass types are underrated right now as they counter popular types in the metagame but I think a lot of people brush them aside due to them having coverage issues offensively.

 

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Closing this. Stats threads will no longer be open for discussion except on Tier Shift months. Every month these are filled with "Infernape > Latias smh." We know the ladder is bad. It is the only feasible method of tiering though, so live with it. Good job guys.