Defensive Emboar (QC 3/3) [GP 2/2]

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[SET]
name: Defensive
move 1: Flare Blitz
move 2: Superpower
move 3: Will-O-Wisp
move 4: Protect
item: Leftovers
nature: Impish
evs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>While Emboar is often seen as an offensive Fire-type due to its fantastic STAB combination and coverage, people often overlook its 110 / 65 / 65 defenses and great defensive typing, which allow defensive variants to check a surprising number of threats. Unlike some its fellow Fire-types that can be used defensively, such as Entei and Moltres, Emboar is not weak to Stealth Rock, which means that it is significantly more difficult to wear down throughout the match, and since entry hazards are omnipresent in RU, this gives Emboar a very distinct advantage over its competitors. Together, these factors make this variant of Emboar a worthy addition to any Fire / Water / Grass core in need of a solid check to threats such as Durant, Escavalier, Lilligant, Accelgor, and Klinklang.</p>

<p>While their side effects might be off-putting, Flare Blitz and Superpower are Emboar's best STABs for this set, as they are simply the strongest physical attacks that Emboar has at its disposal. Though attacks such as Fire Punch and Brick Break might seem more appealing due to their lack of negative effects, Flare Blitz and Superpower give Emboar some much-needed power to make up for this set's lack of offensive investment, and let it do serious damage to the Pokemon that might attempt to switch in on it. Will-O-Wisp is a huge part of this set's effectiveness, as it allows Emboar to neuter physically offensive threats, allowing it to take their attacks with greater ease. Furthermore, Will-O-Wisp is incredibly effective against many of Emboar's common switch-ins, such as Rhydon, Feraligatr, Kabutops, Aerodactyl, and Druddigon, as these Pokemon will typically switch in expecting one of Emboar's STAB moves, only to be quickly crippled by a burn. Finally, Protect rounds off this set by allowing Emboar to scout for dangerous moves, as well as giving it a crucial extra turn of Leftovers recovery. While this might not seem that important, Protect also lets Emboar play mindgames with the opponent, and the extra turn of Leftovers recovery can occasionally cause Emboar to move out of KO range from certain attacks.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>A physically defensive spread is generally best for defensive Emboar, as it lets Emboar take on the biggest range of threats, including Durant and Escavalier, which are otherwise fairly difficult to check. A physically defensive spread also allows Emboar to survive a slew of powerful attacks from strong, physically offensive Pokemon and retaliate with Will-O-Wisp to cripple them for the rest of the match. However, a specially defensive spread is also a viable option, as it allows Emboar to check the likes of of Lilligant and Sceptile with greater effectiveness while still acting as a decent answer to Durant and Escavalier. However, Durant and Escavalier are far more difficult to answer effectively, and as RU is largely dominated by physically offensive threats rather than specially based ones, a physically defensive spread will generally prove to be the better option.</p>

<p>Due to Emboar's incredibly vast movepool, there are a plethora of options that one can use over the suggested moves. For starters, if you really dislike the negative effects of Superpower and Flare Blitz, Hammer Arm and Fire Punch are viable options, though Fire Punch is noticeably weaker and Hammer Arm might miss in crucial situations. Alternatively, you can replace Will-O-Wisp with Toxic in order to lure in and cripple defensive Water-types such as Alomomola and Slowking; however, this means that Emboar can't cripple Druddigon and other physical attackers anymore and that Qwilfish can switch in without any threat. Finally, if you do not find the extra Leftovers recovery from Protect particularly useful, you can replace it with Roar in order to deter setup sweepers, Wild Charge to somewhat threaten Moltres and Slowking on the switch, or Taunt to prevent the likes of Alomomola from passing Wishes as easily.</p>

<p>Defensive Water-types such as Qwilfish, Alomomola, and Slowking give this set huge problems, as it cannot do anything to them barring a burn from Will-O-Wisp, and they can proceed to either threaten it with their STAB Water-type attacks or support their team by setting up hazards or passing huge Wishes to their teammates. To make up for this, it is recommended that you support Emboar with Grass-type Pokemon such as Sceptile, Lilligant, Rotom-C, and Roselia in order to take advantage of the defensive Water-types that Emboar tends to lure in so effectively. Furthermore, while Emboar has fantastic physical bulk, its weaknesses mean that it cannot effectively check certain physical threats, in particular Ground- and Flying-type ones such as Golurk and Braviary. In order to make up for this shortcoming, it is recommended to pair Emboar with another physical wall that can cover the threats it is unable to beat. Alomomola is particularly effective, since it is also able to pass huge Wishes to Emboar, which helps make up for the latter's lack of reliable recovery. In general, this Emboar fits best on a balanced Fire / Water / Grass core, as these cores are able to effectively cover most of Emboar's weaknesses.</p>
 
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I wouldn't really give an example of a mon that takes 'serious damage' because Druddigon would have no problem switching into a Flare Blitz from Defensive Emboar and would Rough Skin it. tbh I wouldn't give any examples of that b/c it really applies to everything more or less and there aren't that many good Pokemon that take neutral damage from both moves that I could think of.

Otherwise fantastic work.

QC Approved 3/3
 
[SET]
name: Defensive
move 1: Flare Blitz
move 2: Superpower
move 3: Will-O-Wisp
move 4: Protect
item: Leftovers
ability: Blaze
nature: Impish
evs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>While Emboar is often seen as an offensive Fire-type due to its fantastic STAB combination and coverage, people often overlook Emboar's 110 / 65 / 65 defenses and great defensive typing, which allow defensive variants of Emboar to check a surprising amount number of threats with defensive investment 'threats with defensive investment'? :p. Unlike some of its fellow Fire-types which that may can be used defensively, such as Entei and Moltres, Emboar is not weak to Stealth Rock, which means that it is significantly more difficult to wear down throughout the match, and since entry hazards are ominipresent omnipresent in RU, this gives Emboar a very distinct advantage over its competitors. Together, these factors make this variant of Emboar a worthy addition to any FWG (Fire-Water-Grass Fire / Water / Grass) core in need of a solid check to threats such as Durant, Escavalier, Lilligant, Accelgor, and Klinklang.</p>

<p>While their side effects may might be offputting, Flare Blitz and Superpower are Emboar's STABs for this set, as they are simply the strongest physical attacks that Emboar has at its disposal. Though attacks such as Fire Punch and Brick Break may might seem more appealing due to their lack of negative effects, Flare Blitz and Superpower give Emboar some much-needed power to make up for this set's lack of offensive investment in Emboar's offenses, and let him it do serious damage to the Pokemon that may might attempt to switch in. Will-O-Wisp is a huge part of this set's effectiveness, as it allows Emboar to neuter physically offensive threats, allowing Emboar to take their attacks with greater ease. Furthermore, Will-O-Wisp is incredibly good against many of Emboar's common switch-ins, such as Rhydon, Feraligatr, Kabutops, Aerodactyl, and the aforementioned Druddigon aforementioned where?, as these Pokemon will typically switch in expecting one of Emboar's STAB moves, only to be quickly crippled by a burn. Finally, Protect rounds off this set by allowing Emboar to scout for dangerous moves, as well as give Emboar it a crucial extra turn of Leftovers recovery. While this might not seem that important, Protect also lets Emboar play some mindgames with the opponent, and the extra turn of Leftovers recovery can occasionally cause Emboar to move out of KO range from certain attacks.(period) which These reasons make it the best option Emboar can use in the last slot.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>A physically defensive spread is generally considered the best for defensive Emboar, as it lets Emboar take on the biggest range of threats, including Durant and Escavalier, who are otherwise fairly difficult to check. A physically defensive spread also allows Emboar to survive a slew of powerful attacks from strong, physically offensive Pokemon, and retaliate with Will-O-Wisp to cripple them for the rest of the match. However, a specially defensive spread is also a viable option, as it allows Emboar to check the likes of of Lilligant and Sceptile with greater effectiveness while still acting as a decent answer to Durant and Escavalier. However, Durant and Escavalier are by far more difficult to answer effectively, and as RU is largely dominated by physically offensive threats rather than specially based ones, a physically defensive spread will generally prove to be the better option.</p>

<p>Due to Emboar's incredibly vast movepool,(comma) there are a plethora of options that are usable one can use over the suggested moves. For starters, if you really dislike the negative effects of Superpower and Flare Blitz, Hammer Arm and Fire Punch are viable options that can be used, though Fire Punch is noticeably weaker and Hammer Arm may might miss in crucial situations. Alternatively, you can replace Will-O-Wisp with Toxic in order to lure in and cripple defensive Water-types like such as Alomomola and Slowking and cripple them; however, this means that Emboar can't cripple Druddigon and other physical attackers like Druddigon anymore, and it means that Qwilfish can switch in without any threat of being crippled. Finally, if you do not find the extra Leftovers recovery from Protect particularly useful, you can replace it with Roar in order to deter setup sweepers, Wild Charge to somewhat threaten Moltres and Slowking on the switch, or Taunt to prevent the likes of Alomomola from passing Wishes as easily.</p>

<p>Defensive Water-types like such as Qwilfish, Alomomola, or and Slowking give this set huge problems, as Emboar cannot do anything to them barring a burn from Will-O-Wisp, and they can proceed to either threaten Emboar with their STAB Water-type attacks or support their team by setting up hazards or passing huge Wishes to their teammates. To make up for this, it is recommended that you support Emboar with a Grass-type Pokemon such as Sceptile, Lilligant, Rotom-C, or Roselia in order to take advantage of the defensive Water-types that Emboar tends to lure in so effectively. Furthermore, while Emboar has fantastic physical bulk, its weaknesses mean that it cannot effectively answer check certain physical threats: in particular, Ground- or and Flying-type ones such as Golurk or and Braviary. In order to make up for this shortcoming, pairing it is recommended to pair Emboar with another physical wall, such as Alomomola, who that can cover the threats Emboar is unable to beat is recommended. Alomomola in particularly is effect is particularly effective, since it is also able to pass huge Wishes to Emboar, which helps make up for its the latter's lack of reliable recovery. In general, this Emboar fits best on a balanced Fire-Water-Grass Fire / Water / Grass core, as those cores are able to effectively cover most of Emboar's weaknesses.</p>
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[SET]
name: Defensive
move 1: Flare Blitz
move 2: Superpower
move 3: Will-O-Wisp
move 4: Protect
item: Leftovers
ability: Blaze (don't need ability tag because there's only one legal one)
nature: Impish
evs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>While Emboar is often seen as an offensive Fire-type due to its fantastic STAB combination and coverage, people often overlook Emboar's its 110 / 65 / 65 defenses and great defensive typing, which allow defensive variants of Emboar to check a surprising number of threats. Unlike some its fellow Fire-types that can be used defensively, such as Entei and Moltres, Emboar is not weak to Stealth Rock, which means that it is significantly more difficult to wear down throughout the match, and since as entry hazards are omnipresent in RU, this gives Emboar a very distinct advantage over its competitors. Together, these factors make this variant of Emboar a worthy addition to any FWG (Fire / Water / Grass) Fire / Water / Grass core in need of a solid check to threats such as Durant, Escavalier, Lilligant, Accelgor, and Klinklang.</p>

<p>While their side effects might be offputting off-putting, Flare Blitz and Superpower are Emboar's best STABs for this set, as they are simply the strongest physical attacks that Emboar has at its disposal. Though attacks such as Fire Punch and Brick Break might seem more appealing due to their lack of negative effects, Flare Blitz and Superpower give Emboar some much-needed power to make up for this set's lack of offensive investment, and let it do serious damage to the Pokemon that might attempt to switch in on it. Will-O-Wisp is a huge part of this set's effectiveness, as it allows Emboar to neuter physically offensive threats, allowing Emboar it to take their attacks with greater ease. Furthermore, Will-O-Wisp is incredibly good effective against many of Emboar's common switch-ins, such as Rhydon, Feraligatr, Kabutops, Aerodactyl, and Druddigon, as these Pokemon will typically switch in expecting one of Emboar's STAB moves, only to be quickly crippled by a burn. Finally, Protect rounds off this set by allowing Emboar to scout for dangerous moves, as well as give giving it a crucial extra turn of Leftovers recovery when needed. While this might not seem that important, Protect also lets Emboar play mindgames with the opponent, and the extra turn of Leftovers recovery can occasionally cause Emboar to move out of KO range from certain attacks. These reasons make it the best option Emboar can use in the last slot.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>A physically defensive spread is generally considered the best for defensive Emboar, as it lets Emboar take on the biggest range of threats, including Durant and Escavalier, who which are otherwise fairly difficult to check. A physically defensive spread also allows Emboar to survive a slew of powerful attacks from strong, physically offensive Pokemon, (remove comma) and retaliate with Will-O-Wisp to cripple them for the rest of the match. However, a specially defensive spread is also a viable option, as it allows Emboar to check the likes of of Lilligant and Sceptile with greater effectiveness while still acting as a decent answer to Durant and Escavalier. However, Durant and Escavalier are by far more difficult to answer effectively, and as RU is largely dominated by physically offensive threats rather than specially based ones, a physically defensive spread will generally prove to be the better option.</p>

<p>Due to Emboar's incredibly vast movepool, there are a plethora of options that one can use over the suggested moves. For starters, if you really dislike the negative effects of Superpower and Flare Blitz, Hammer Arm and Fire Punch are viable options, though Fire Punch is noticeably weaker and Hammer Arm might miss in crucial situations. Alternatively, you can replace Will-O-Wisp with Toxic in order to lure in and cripple defensive Water-types such as Alomomola and Slowking; however, this means that Emboar can't cripple Druddigon and other physical attackers anymore, (remove comma) and that Qwilfish can switch in without any threat. Finally, if you do not find the extra Leftovers recovery from Protect particularly useful, you can replace it with Roar in order to deter setup sweepers, Wild Charge to somewhat threaten Moltres and Slowking on the switch, or Taunt to prevent the likes of Alomomola from passing Wishes as easily.</p>

<p>Defensive Water-types such as Qwilfish, Alomomola, and Slowking give this set huge problems, as Emboar it cannot do anything to them barring a burn from Will-O-Wisp, and they can proceed to either threaten Emboar it with their STAB Water-type attacks or support their team by setting up hazards or passing huge Wishes to their teammates. To make up for this, it is recommended that you support Emboar with Grass-type Pokemon such as Sceptile, Lilligant, Rotom-C, or and Roselia in order to take advantage of the defensive Water-types that Emboar tends to lure in so effectively. Furthermore, while Emboar has fantastic physical bulk, its weaknesses mean that it cannot effectively check certain physical threats: (change to comma) in particular, (remove comma) Ground- and Flying-type ones such as Golurk and Braviary. In order to make up for this shortcoming, it is recommended to pair Emboar with another physical wall that can cover the threats Emboar it is unable to beat. Alomomola is particularly effective, since as it is also able to pass huge Wishes to Emboar, which helps make up for the latter's lack of reliable recovery. In general, this Emboar fits best on in a balanced Fire / Water / Grass core, as those these cores are able to effectively cover most of Emboar's weaknesses.</p>


GP: 2/2
 
Ok i have one or twi things aside from what melvni posted:
When referring to flare blitz and superpower, change 'stabs' to 'stab moves' and in the first word of sc, while<although.
 
I also think 'while' is fine at the start of set comments, due to the way the sentence is worded. im not gp but 'while' just feels better than 'although' there
 
Treecko i remember a discussion regarding this. The consensus was that stab moves>stabs almost always; stabs refer to the types while stab moves refers to stab moves.
Lasagne in retrospect, i concede that although doesn't fit THAT well...
 

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