You can find a viability list here: http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/xy-ou-viability-ranking-thread-v2.3502428/. It doesn't organize them by role, but it well-organized by their threat level and viability.Mega Moltres said:
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Can someone explain to me why Florges is unranked in the above list and is blacklisted? I know that's for bad pokemon, but can someone explain to me why Florges is THAT much worse than Sylveon or another fairy? I don't particularly like Florges so I'm not going to get mad about it, I just want to know. I assume lack of offensive threat?
I believe the reason is that Florges is completely outclassed in any role it could serve in OU (mostly by Sylveon), so there's nothing to discuss about Florges specifically.
There is literally nothing that Florges does better than Sylveon. Therefore, there is absolutely no reason to use it over Sylveon.
The only things Florges does, Sylveon does marginally better across the board. They're almost the same in every respect, except Sylveon does it better.
Sylveon has more health, so it takes physical hits better and special hits almost exactly like Florges. They're offensively almost identical. And Sylveon passes better Wishes than Florges.
Florges is faster by 15 speed, but then again... when you're passing Wishes, slower can be better, too.
On top of all that, Sylveons Hyper Voice hits through subs, so thats also a thing.
Zekrenzo
The most common walls are Chansey, Mega Venusaur, Heatran, Quagsire, Skarmory, Gliscor, Mandibuzz, Tyranitar (more of a tank tbh), and Zapdos (I might be missing a few, idr). I'd suggest looking at the OU viability rankings, as they link to the analyses of each.
As for stall breakers, you have Taunt Thundy, CM Lando, Mixed Megachomp, and Gothitelle. Like the walls, I'd suggest looking at their analyses for their most common sets.
Zekrenzo
The most common walls are Chansey, Mega Venusaur, Heatran, Quagsire, Skarmory, Gliscor, Mandibuzz, Tyranitar (more of a tank tbh), and Zapdos (I might be missing a few, idr). I'd suggest looking at the OU viability rankings, as they link to the analyses of each.
As for stall breakers, you have Taunt Thundy, CM Lando, Mixed Megachomp, and Gothitelle. Like the walls, I'd suggest looking at their analyses for their most common sets.
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From what I've observed, offensive Mega Venusaur is the new meta
Why was Manaphy banned in gen IV? There was no permanent rain in OU (kinda like gen VI), why was it banned?
Also, (this might seem stupid) but have "weaker" arceus forms like Bug, Ice ever been considered for OU? Bug-Arceus seems pretty manageable in OU.
Also, (this might seem stupid) but have "weaker" arceus forms like Bug, Ice ever been considered for OU? Bug-Arceus seems pretty manageable in OU.
For the first question, Manaphy's Rain Dance/Calm Mind(or Tail Glow)/Rest/Surf set was too much for the metagame, especially considering that back then the metagame wasn't as offensive as it is now, and there were much fewer water immunities/resists.
As for the 2nd question, nope. Arceus as a whole is on the initial banlists on Pokemon, meaning it'll always be banned.
Manaphy was banned because it only had 2 counters at the time: Blissey and Cresselia. Even then Cresselia couldn't touch it and Blissey had to run Thunderbolt or Thunder to do any damage. Tail Glow is an incredibly good move and allowed it to even get past it's biggest counters is Blissey and Cresselia. While it didn't have the biggest movepool it had just the tools it needed in Tail Glow, Surf, Energy Ball, Ice beam and Hydration + Rest. Speaking about Hydration + Rest it was another thing that made Manaphy broken as it could just continue on sleeping while keeping on gaining boosts with Tail Glow or Calm Mind. It was just too much for the metagame to handle which is why it got banned.
As for Arceus even the worser forms like Bug and Ice still have an enormous movepool and incredible stats which is why I think they would never be OU.
Does rain boost electric type moves? If so, by how much? Also does it increase Thunder's accuracy? Again by how much?
Rain doesn't increase the power of Electric type moves but it does make it so that Thunder will never miss.
It's more like Feint Attack and Shock Wave. Before Gen V they were simply 100 accuracy, but they now ignore the effects of evasion and accuracy.
It will never ever miss like Shock Wave and Aura Sphere. I even think it has a chance to hit through Protect.
It did have a chance to hit through protect in D/P, but not before nor anymore does it do that. It only happens in those versions.
I'm assuming you mean Vivilion? Yeah, it seems pretty good, but I'd rather run a Compoundeyes one with Hurricane because that's awesome.
But if you're going for a support set, I'd go for HP/Speed, and have Powder over Quiver dance since you have one attack (which even then, could be replaced with somethingn else, I ju/t don't know what XD)
Max Carvalho
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I am trying to find a teammate for the last slot on this team: latios, bisharp, gyarados, heatran, and breloom. Does anyone have an idea?
Think so?
I guess, wonder when I'll get the chance to use Powder, seeing as I think I have to outspeed.
Is there any counters for Mega kangaskan? Im tired of running into that thing, its literally ruining online for me. I dont want to use Blaziken since he is uber but if i have to to neutralize that thing i will. Sick of it. Cheap way of ranking up -_-
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Just saying, but Mega Kanga is an uber. Anyway, Sableye is kanga's best counter. Also, anything with Rock Helmet, like Ferrothorn, Aegislash with sub, etc.
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