Quilladin is pretty cool, with Bulletproof giving it more switch-ins than it ordinarily would have (Vileplume and Haunter come to mind), and is certainly competent at setting up Spikes. Access to Roar and Synthesis distinguish itself from Ferroseed significantly. The issues I have with Quilladin is:
- lack of offensive presence. With Quilladin's only worthwhile attack being Seed Bomb, and it having 5 weaknesses, it tends to make a very easy switch-in to a lot of threats in the tier, though Quilladin can try to Roar them back out to take more damage from the hazards it places, so that is something.
- reliance on Eviolite for bulk. Quilladin finds itself exposed to Knock Offs a lot, making it an iffy switch into the likes of Fighting-types and Shiftry. I won't deny Quilladin's walling ability, but when compared to Pokemon such as Qwilfish (fellow Spike setter!) and Vileplume (especially Vileplume), which do not have their bulk screwed over that much upon losing their items, Quilladin's bulk isn't really too special. Even Ferroseed can fall back onto its numerous resistances to survive should it lose its Eviolite.
- can't really do shit against any Defogger in the tier. Ferroseed at least has Thunder Wave to slow them down, making it harder for them to Defog. All Quilladin can try is Leech Seed, and even then it may not have space (Seed Bomb, Spikes, Synthesis, Roar), so almost any Defogger can switch-in and stop Quilladin cold.
Useful niche nonetheless, probably sits in B- right alongside Ferroseed, if not C+.
Um hello we have another eviolite grass type that is just as, if not more viable than both mentioned above
helo frens
As per usual, I'mma give a list of positives, then negatives about tangela.
Pros
-Excellent bulk with Eviolite
-Good typing allows it to counter a variety of physical attackers in NU, which include (but not limited to) Feraligatr, Stoutland, Barbaracle, Kingler, Rhydon, Poliwrath, seismitoad, Physical Carracosta...
-Excellent Ability in regenerator, allowing it to become a fantastic bulky pivot
-Respectable base 100 SAtk allows it to make a mark when it hits unlike quilladin, who has to use Wood hammer to do damage or rely on the piss-weak seed bomb, meaning +2 Feraligatr can actually beat it if it sets up
-Sleep Powder makes it annoying ah
-Reliable recovery in synthesis unlike the aforementioned ferroseed
-cuter than the other grasses, better posture and more rounded ball formation than quilladumb
Cons
-bad Sdef even with eviolite :[
-typing offers good resistances but also p bad weaknesses to common attacking types in the tier (fire, ice, flying)
-tbh i think this is a weaker argument but hurt by knock off buff (Tbh If you're switching eviolite mons into knock off in the first place ur doing it wrong)
I feel like tangles deserves a spot at least above quillading because it has more base positives than spike ball, as it's harder to wear down over time with regenerator, actually lives +4 Feraligatr's LO ice whatever and can come out of the battle relatively um...not dead.
Edit: it gets roar lol I'm dumb
Only downside is no spiky shield+spikes, but tbh ur better off using omastar, accelgor, or even roselia if you need a bulkier spikes user. Also literally the cutest thing in NU and
Montsegur approves of this deserves a
B/B+-Ranking :]