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Other Pokemon: Smogon Version OU [Route 4]
- Thread starter Chou Toshio
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'Team Luck-Sack' could utilise full BP chains and Deniss could be their leader. You eventually have to fight him, even after successfully reducing BP chains to 3 users.
^Please read the OP, says that storyline submission posts will be reviewed on a town/route-by-town/route just like everything else. (only about what happens on that route/in that town).
There is going to be a fairly accessible "EV shifter" later in the game I think, and enemies to easily get the proper EVs until then. Of course opponents will be similarly scaled to match your team's possible current level in terms of moves/evolution.(early gym leaders will not be fully EV'd)
I personally don't see any big deal in letting players over-level to fight bosses, but we could always say that gym battles have level-adjustment (first gym Pokemon over level 10 are auto-leveled to level 10, 2nd gym over leveled auto-leveled to level 20, etc.).
I was actually thinking that one of the admins could be based off Deniss with full Baton pass, but would want someone truly nefarious for the boss.
^I'm thinking a highly accessible nursery (or the nursery can be managed from any Pokemon Center) instead.
Probably more appropriate since realistically an in-game competitive team relies heavily on breeding.
We should make the champion Chou Toshio
Another thing, there should be a late game NPC who lets you put event moves on Pokemon
Another thing, there should be a late game NPC who lets you put event moves on Pokemon
I think to keep the in game mechanics might be a little challenging...for instants, Entei can only have E-Speed through event and is always shiny and adamant nature.
And some tutor moves are not compatible with Hidden Abilities so...I think there is a lot to consider when adding new level up moves to save time finding in-game tutors and so on.
And some tutor moves are not compatible with Hidden Abilities so...I think there is a lot to consider when adding new level up moves to save time finding in-game tutors and so on.
MoxieInfinite
Banned deucer.
Autoheal after every game, something I could easily create.
An EV/IV checker etc could easily be made too.
An EV/IV checker etc could easily be made too.
I'm thinking instead of Moves/Strategies we do it like the crappy Diamond/Pearl (Not Platinum) strategy for gym leaders where some gym leaders have Pokemon not part of their type but with the move they're touting (the one thing I remembered well was Volkner's Shock Wave Ambipom)
For example, the first gym, a rock gym, could actually be a Stealth Rock gym where every Pokemon has Stealth Rock (instead of them all being Rock typed) because "Welcome to Smogon's most common move"/"My Pokemon give you an advantage by effectively only have 3 moves unless you love Rapid Spin/Defog" sounds like a good introduction to the games.
Then a bug gym could be a team of nothing but U-Turners (which would include like Talonflame/other U-Turners). An Electric type gym with nothing but Volt Switchers (with a Forretress lead). A Flying type gym with nothing but Defogers (Maybe if near the end of the game it would have maybe like Mew or Lati@s). Something like that.
For example, the first gym, a rock gym, could actually be a Stealth Rock gym where every Pokemon has Stealth Rock (instead of them all being Rock typed) because "Welcome to Smogon's most common move"/"My Pokemon give you an advantage by effectively only have 3 moves unless you love Rapid Spin/Defog" sounds like a good introduction to the games.
Then a bug gym could be a team of nothing but U-Turners (which would include like Talonflame/other U-Turners). An Electric type gym with nothing but Volt Switchers (with a Forretress lead). A Flying type gym with nothing but Defogers (Maybe if near the end of the game it would have maybe like Mew or Lati@s). Something like that.
Great idea Chou Toshio! Smog version would be a very awesome thing. I'm sorta pissed right now because I just came back from losing a local tournament in the semifinals. Don't take the below suggestion seriously.
Can we have a 120/50/150/150/150/180 Togekiss named WHERE'S YOUR SCALD NOW? He runs the original WaveSlashAuraRoost set from gen 4 and his Thunder Wave effects electric types. If you inflict 4 or more scald burns in one fucking match, then he has a 30% chance of appearing in tall grass . When he shows up, you send out a random pokemon (which he traps like Shadow Tag) and you must endure serene grace hax from the Paraflinch god. You only have one chance at defeating him, and if you do, you get 1 million Pokedollars.
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Slowpoke (surf)
level depends on when does the player gets the surf hm.
Reason : Slowbro is a great water-type for defensive teams and walls lots of shit. It can also be used to teach players about abilities. ("here, look your slowbro is garbo as it does not have regenerator. What, you don't give a damn? Then, you should stop aiming to be a trainer imao lol". After that, a speech on abilities). Even, Slowking is /somewhat/ viable (correct me here, i have not used him, but he is on viability rankings and is getting an analysis).
Now, onto flavour ;) :
"Hey there! I am prof chou. Welcome to the world of smogomon. It is inhabited by PKMN who are worth something. Now, are you a boy or a girl? Nah, it ain't a weird ques, i can't tell by looking at you lol."
Then, give a brief speech on Smogon and competitive battling.
On the layout, we should have a water body and not many houses in the hometown just for the sake of consistency. Each house tells something about the basics of competitive battling.
Sorry chou, if that sentence sounds offensive.
level depends on when does the player gets the surf hm.
Reason : Slowbro is a great water-type for defensive teams and walls lots of shit. It can also be used to teach players about abilities. ("here, look your slowbro is garbo as it does not have regenerator. What, you don't give a damn? Then, you should stop aiming to be a trainer imao lol". After that, a speech on abilities). Even, Slowking is /somewhat/ viable (correct me here, i have not used him, but he is on viability rankings and is getting an analysis).
Now, onto flavour ;) :
"Hey there! I am prof chou. Welcome to the world of smogomon. It is inhabited by PKMN who are worth something. Now, are you a boy or a girl? Nah, it ain't a weird ques, i can't tell by looking at you lol."
Then, give a brief speech on Smogon and competitive battling.
On the layout, we should have a water body and not many houses in the hometown just for the sake of consistency. Each house tells something about the basics of competitive battling.
Sorry chou, if that sentence sounds offensive.
The game could teach the player how to make basic counter arguments.
For example (just an example), the evil team (Team Casual) wants a banned pokemon released like Mega-Gengar and say stupid things like "Soon everybody will realise that Unburden Slurpuff can defeat it and will pack it into their team"
The player then will get a number of options to counter that argument and learn little by little what exactly makes a pokemon really broken and why.
For example (just an example), the evil team (Team Casual) wants a banned pokemon released like Mega-Gengar and say stupid things like "Soon everybody will realise that Unburden Slurpuff can defeat it and will pack it into their team"
The player then will get a number of options to counter that argument and learn little by little what exactly makes a pokemon really broken and why.
Pokemon Proposal
Starting Town
Poliwag
Good Rod Proposal
Level: 15-20
Reason: Politoed is the staple for any rain team, and was the reason the became popular in the first place. We should let people be able to use their favorite archtype asap imo, and I think making Poliwag available here will let us do that, after all we are giving NPCs archtype teams as well.
), why dont we do an Endless Battle Clause playstyle?
Starting Town
Poliwag
Good Rod Proposal
Level: 15-20
Reason: Politoed is the staple for any rain team, and was the reason the became popular in the first place. We should let people be able to use their favorite archtype asap imo, and I think making Poliwag available here will let us do that, after all we are giving NPCs archtype teams as well.
No, just no.
Well, we could do Versifly, but that will likely end in a lawsuit. As for the team of the leader (Yeah I'm being really evil here
), why dont we do an Endless Battle Clause playstyle?
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Do you not run 3 stealth rock users on your OU teams?
I suppose its just a humorous exercise. That's not to say a game wont be made out of it... just not officially (and not here).
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Also, one thing that should happen is the number of steps needed to hatch an egg decreases. Also, heart scales should be easily obtainable and move tutors should be unlimited (with a cost).
Proposing Tympole:
Starting town
Level: 10 or 15-20 old rod and good rod respectively.
Reason: I am biased when saying this but seismitoad is the only swift swim user immune to electric moves, one of the problems with rain teams is things like twave and tbolts. I am not exactly sure as to whether or not we can suggest moveset changes but I'd like for seismitoad to be able to learn waterfall because nearly every other water type can and so it can abuse it's higher attack stat. Also earth power should not be an egg move because I don't want to be having to use mud shot as your strongest special ground type move. Sorry if I screwed this up a lot I kinda skimmed through this and am on my phone.
Starting town
Level: 10 or 15-20 old rod and good rod respectively.
Reason: I am biased when saying this but seismitoad is the only swift swim user immune to electric moves, one of the problems with rain teams is things like twave and tbolts. I am not exactly sure as to whether or not we can suggest moveset changes but I'd like for seismitoad to be able to learn waterfall because nearly every other water type can and so it can abuse it's higher attack stat. Also earth power should not be an egg move because I don't want to be having to use mud shot as your strongest special ground type move. Sorry if I screwed this up a lot I kinda skimmed through this and am on my phone.
I definitely think in the spirit of competitive battling that enemy trainers and Gym leaders should be able to, and encouraged, to switch pokemon. I know a leader here or there switched in a few of the games but it should really be more prevalent, otherwise it feels more like a gauntlet than a battle.
As such if we're going Water types than I think Starmie is a great enemy. Misty's Starmie always was a bitch. Starmie is fast and annoying and will have Recover and Natural Cure, meaning statusing it won't be so beneficial if it can switch out as a result. I think it should also have Hydro Pump and Ice Beam for power and would be Grass counters. Rapid Spin is a potential 4th move if switching will be prevalent and you try to abuse hazards, otherwise straight up Psychic for another STAB would be good too.
As such if we're going Water types than I think Starmie is a great enemy. Misty's Starmie always was a bitch. Starmie is fast and annoying and will have Recover and Natural Cure, meaning statusing it won't be so beneficial if it can switch out as a result. I think it should also have Hydro Pump and Ice Beam for power and would be Grass counters. Rapid Spin is a potential 4th move if switching will be prevalent and you try to abuse hazards, otherwise straight up Psychic for another STAB would be good too.
Starting Town (Good Rod)
Squirtle
Level 10-15
Reason: Rapid Spin and Dark Pulse to beat spinblockers. If the first gym is Stealth Rock centric as has been suggested it would help. Plus it's not a starter in this game so no reason we can't drop it right at the start as a shitmon - after all, MBlastoise is only like C or C+ iirc
Squirtle
Level 10-15
Reason: Rapid Spin and Dark Pulse to beat spinblockers. If the first gym is Stealth Rock centric as has been suggested it would help. Plus it's not a starter in this game so no reason we can't drop it right at the start as a shitmon - after all, MBlastoise is only like C or C+ iirc
Change the Special attack stat from 150 ---> 5
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