Project PU Victim of the week - Week 47: Agility Kingler

[Raiza]

Tangela as a counter

Tangela @ Eviolite
Ability: Regenerator
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpA
Bold Nature
- Giga Drain
- Toxic / Sleep Powder
- Synthesis / Leech Seed
- Hidden Power Ice

Tangela can be splashed in a variety of teams and is able to tank every possible hit from Torterra, thanks to its high physical bulk and Eviolite, also having access to Synthesis and Regenerator, making it extremely durable, then cripple it with Toxic or directly hit with Hidden Power Ice or Giga Drain, dealing decent damage and removing Yache Berry, therefore definitely forcing its switch most of the time.

calcs

252 Atk Torterra Wood Hammer vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Tangela: 38-45 (11.3 - 13.4%) -- possible 8HKO

252 Atk Torterra Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Tangela: 43-51 (12.8 - 15.2%) -- possible 7HKO

4 SpA Tangela Hidden Power Ice vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Yache Berry Torterra: 100-118 (30.2 - 35.6%) -- 26.7% chance to 3HKO

4 SpA Tangela Hidden Power Ice vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Torterra: 200-236 (60.4 - 71.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

 

[Rennyjesus]

Avalugg as a Counter

Avalugg @ Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 248 HP / 252 SpDef / 8 Def
Nature: Careful
Rapid Spin
Avalanche
Recover
Earthquake / Roar

Well, Avalugg can shrugg everything Torterra has in its arsenal, even being super effective since Stone Edge its just a 3HKO after rocks and leftovers recovery and Avalugg have a nice 50% for the OHKO with Avalanche after SR, even considering Yache Berry...

Also, Avalugg can use Recover and pray for a Stone Edge Miss and then beat it easily...

Here the Calcs

252 Atk Torterra Stone Edge vs. 248 HP / 8 Def Avalugg: 112-134 (28.4 - 34%) -- 99.3% chance to 3HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
252 Atk Torterra Stone Edge vs. 248 HP / 8 Def Avalugg: 112-134 (28.4 - 34%) -- 98.1% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery

0 Atk Avalugg Avalanche vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Yache Berry Torterra: 284-336 (85.8 - 101.5%) -- 50% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
0 Atk Avalugg Avalanche vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Yache Berry Torterra: 284-336 (85.8 - 101.5%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO

If you want some extra data, Avalugg just need 188 EVS on Attack to ensure the OHKO on Torterra through Yache, even without SR (108 with SR).

And if you just want to laugh at Torterra and use Physically defensive Avalugg, then you get this:
252 Atk Torterra Stone Edge vs. 248 HP / 252+ Def Avalugg: 90-106 (22.9 - 26.9%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery

See ya guys!

 

[WakafLUKEaflame]

Regice as a check:



Regice @ Life Orb
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 29 HP / 0 Atk
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt
- Focus Blast
- Rock Polish

Regice avoids the ohko from Stone Edge after rocks, and can proceed to ohko Torterra with Ice Beam regardless of Yache Berry. Only problem is that Regice most likely dies from the combination of SR+Life Orb recoil, so just keep those dang rocks off the field so that Regice is happy. :)

Calcs

252 Atk Torterra Stone Edge vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Regice: 192-228 (64.2 - 76.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252 Atk Torterra Stone Edge vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Regice: 192-228 (64.2 - 76.2%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock

252 Atk Torterra Wood Hammer vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Regice: 172-204 (57.5 - 68.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ SpA Life Orb Regice Ice Beam vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Yache Berry Torterra: 398-471 (120.2 - 142.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

 

[Twix]

Gourgeist as Counter

Gourgeist-Super @ Leftovers
Ability: Frisk
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature
- Will-O-Wisp
- Seed Bomb
- Synthesis
- Leech Seed

Gourgeist is a fat ass pumpkin which can take any hit Torterra wants to throw at it and return with a Will-O-Wisp. It's a self explanatory based god who laughs in the face of a Tree Monster Polishing it's Nails. It hits it up with a Fire Mixtape and it's all over from there. gg

calculations

252 Atk Torterra Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Gourgeist-Super: 61-72 (16.3 - 19.2%) -- possible 8HKO after Leftovers recovery

252 Atk Torterra Wood Hammer vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Gourgeist-Super: 54-64 (14.4 - 17.1%) -- possible 9HKO after Leftovers recovery

252 Atk burned Torterra Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Gourgeist-Super: 30-36 (8 - 9.6%) -- possibly the worst move ever

252 Atk burned Torterra Wood Hammer vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Gourgeist-Super: 27-32 (7.2 - 8.5%) -- possibly the worst move ever

4 Atk Gourgeist-Super Seed Bomb vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Torterra: 84-99 (25.3 - 29.9%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

 

[Sebberball]

I love you TONE114, now i gotta think...

 

[Sebberball]

Rotom-Frost @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpA
Bold Nature
- Volt Switch
- Blizzard
- Will-O-Wisp
- Pain Split

Status: HARD check (or possibly counter)

This se for rotom-frost allows it to live certain hits from Torterra, along with burning it in the process, having the defensive set for rotom-frost allows it to eat a wood hammer, or even a stone edge and burn the opposing torterra, or go for a will-o-wisp.

Torterra attacks (not burned):
252 Atk Torterra Wood Hammer vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-F: 118-141 (38.8 - 46.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 Atk Torterra Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-F: 134-158 (44 - 51.9%) -- 13.3% chance to 2HKO
Torterra Attacks... Burned:
252 Atk burned Torterra Wood Hammer vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-F: 59-70 (19.4 - 23%) -- possible 5HKO
252 Atk burned Torterra Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-F: 67-79 (22 - 25.9%) -- 4.2% chance to 4HKO
Rotom's 1 Attack:
8 SpA Rotom-F Blizzard vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Yache Berry Torterra: 288-338 (87 - 102.1%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO

on the calcs for torterra, it can be a reliable switch-in being 2hko'd by the stone edge, it can still set a burn before torterra has a chance to think!

 

[Rennyjesus]

Rotom-Frost @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
Evs: 248 HP / 252 Def / 8 SpA
Bold Nature
- Volt Switch
- Blizzard
- Will-O-Wisp
- Pain Split

Status: HARD check (or possibly counter)

This se for rotom-frost allows it to live certain hits from Torterra, along with burning it in the process, having the defensive set for rotom-frost allows it to eat a wood hammer, or even a stone edge and burn the opposing torterra, or go for a will-o-wisp.

Torterra attacks (not burned):
252 Atk Torterra Wood Hammer vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-F: 118-141 (38.8 - 46.3%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 Atk Torterra Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-F: 134-158 (44 - 51.9%) -- 13.3% chance to 2HKO
Torterra Attacks... Burned:
252 Atk burned Torterra Wood Hammer vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-F: 59-70 (19.4 - 23%) -- possible 5HKO
252 Atk burned Torterra Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Rotom-F: 67-79 (22 - 25.9%) -- 4.2% chance to 4HKO
Rotom's 1 Attack:
8 SpA Rotom-F Blizzard vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Yache Berry Torterra: 288-338 (87 - 102.1%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO

on the calcs for torterra, it can be a reliable switch-in being 2hko'd by the stone edge, it can still set a burn before torterra has a chance to think!

Well the problem that I have with this one is just that I dunno if it can check Torterra because 252 speed evved is faster than Rotom F... And if Torterra manages to predict the switch in, Rotom F will be weakened enough to get kicked out, even if manages to Burn Torterra in the next turn... Not even Pain Split can reliably save Rotom F since this Torterra has just a little bit more HP than Rotom F which means isn't going to recover enough HP... Finally, if we take SR into account, Rotom F will not live through the assault AT ALL, besides maybe a Stone Edge miss...
I would rather use something like 248 HP / 64 Def / 64 Sp At / 132 Speed to creep on 60 fully invested with positive nature (I'm seeing you Pawniard), Outspeed Torterra before a Rock Polish and burn it or outright KO it with Blizzard...

 

[rubsomebacononit]

Quilladin @ Eviolite
Ability: Bulletproof
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature
- Spikes
- Wood Hammer
- Synthesis
- Roar

Quilladin as Counter
Were you looking for a bulky Pokemon to absorb Torterra's attacks and have the ability to set up spikes, force a switch, recover HP and attack? Well, look no further! Here's Quilladin!

Calculations:
252 Atk Torterra Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Quilladin: 49-58 (15 - 17.7%)
252 Atk Torterra Wood Hammer vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Quilladin: 43-51 (13.1 - 15.6%)
252 Atk Torterra Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Quilladin: 36-43 (11 - 13.1%)
4 Atk Quilladin Wood Hammer vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Torterra: 102-121 (30.8 - 36.5%)

 

[TONE]

Quilladin @ Eviolite
Ability: Bulletproof
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature
- Spikes
- Wood Hammer
- Synthesis
- Roar

Quilladin as Check
Were you looking for a bulky Pokemon to absorb Torterra's attacks and have the ability to set up spikes, force a switch, recover HP and attack? Well, look no further! Here's Quilladin!

Calculations:
252 Atk Torterra Stone Edge vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Quilladin: 49-58 (15 - 17.7%)
252 Atk Torterra Wood Hammer vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Quilladin: 43-51 (13.1 - 15.6%)
252 Atk Torterra Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Eviolite Quilladin: 36-43 (11 - 13.1%)
4 Atk Quilladin Wood Hammer vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Torterra: 102-121 (30.8 - 36.5%)

Not bad, but Quilladin is a counter, not a check.

 

[rubsomebacononit]

Not bad, but Quilladin is a counter, not a check.

oh sorry. i was confused

 

[TONE]

Counters were a bit difficult to choose from, even if most were just bulky grass types, but a counter is a counter.

Checks: Regice (WakafLUKEaflame) / Rotom-F (BoxedOccaBerrys)
Counters: Leafeon (Kingler12345) / Tangela (Raiza.) / Gourgeist-XL (BenOhver) / Avalugg (Rennyjesus)

Week 14:

Raichu @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Lightning Rod
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Thunderbolt
- Volt Switch
- Focus Blast
- Hidden Power [Ice]

Same as before. One week to post your check/counter. Not bad for my 300th post.

 

[Raiza]

Stunfisk as a counter

Stunfisk @ Leftovers
Ability: Static
EVs: 252 HP / 168 Def / 88 SpD
Bold Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Rest
- Discharge
- Earth Power

Stunfisk is one of the best answers to Raichu, thanks to its Ground-type niche, which allows it to stop Volt Switch chains and reliably switch into Raichu and Electric-type coverage in general. Raichu also deals really low damage with Hidden Power Ice, which can be recovered up with Rest, even if Stunfisk isnt running fully investment in Special Defense. Stunfisk can answer back setting up Stealth Rock or with a STAB Earth Power, heavily damaging Raichu.

calcs

252 SpA Raichu Hidden Power Ice vs. 252 HP / 88 SpD Stunfisk: 94-112 (22.2 - 26.5%) -- possible 5HKO after Leftovers recovery

0 SpA Stunfisk Earth Power vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Raichu: 194-230 (74.3 - 88.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

 

[WakafLUKEaflame]

Roselia as a counter:



Roselia @ Eviolite
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 248 HP / 100 Def / 160 SpD
Calm Nature
- Spikes
- Synthesis
- Giga Drain
- Sludge Bomb

Roselia takes little to nothing from anything Raichu throws at it, and can hit back with STAB Sludge Bomb, which hits for decent damage even without SpA investment. Roselia can pretty much do whatever it wants against Raichu, whether it be setting up spikes to its heart's content, or predicting a switch-in, as Raichu doesn't threaten Roselia outside of Nasty Plot w/ Life Orb.

Calcs

252 SpA Raichu Hidden Power Ice vs. 248 HP / 160+ SpD Eviolite Roselia: 64-76 (21.1 - 25%) -- 0% chance to 4HKO

252 SpA Raichu Thunderbolt vs. 248 HP / 160+ SpD Eviolite Roselia: 35-42 (11.5 - 13.8%) -- possible 8HKO

0 SpA Roselia Sludge Bomb vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Raichu: 117-138 (44.8 - 52.8%) -- 23.8% chance to 2HKO

 

[Twix]

I'm just going to post a Pokemon that's not that useful for anything other than this:

Whiscash as Hard Check (Depending on how many times Focus Blast Hits):

Whiscash @ Leftovers / Life Orb
Ability: Oblivious
EVs: 32 HP / 252 Atk / 224 Spe
Jolly Nature (Jolly Nature allows it to outpace Raichu After a Dragon Dance)
- Earthquake
- Dragon Dance
- Substitute
- Waterfall

One of the only niches that Whiscash has over Carracosta or Barbaracle is the ability to take on Electric Types barring HP Grass from a Zebstrika. The only move that would be remotely effective on Whiscash is Focus Blast, and it seems to miss more than it hits. This entails that Raichu could even be set-up fodder for Whiscash as well as being easily killed.

Calcs

252 SpA Raichu Focus Blast vs. 32 HP / 0 SpD Whiscash: 135-159 (36.5 - 43%) -- 97.9% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
252 SpA Raichu Hidden Power Ice vs. 32 HP / 0 SpD Whiscash: 68-80 (18.4 - 21.6%) -- possible 7HKO after Leftovers recovery

252 Atk Whiscash Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Raichu: 374-444 (143.2 - 170.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Whiscash Waterfall vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Raichu: 151-178 (57.8 - 68.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

 

[Rennyjesus]

Counters were a bit difficult to choose from, even if most were just bulky grass types, but a counter is a counter.

Checks: Regice (WakafLUKEaflame) / Rotom-F (BoxedOccaBerrys)
Counters: Leafeon (Kingler12345) / Tangela (Raiza.) / Gourgeist-XL (BenOhver)

Hey... you missed mine... Avalugg... ¬¬'

 

[Twix]

Rennyjesus they select the best from each week (around 2-3), unfortunately your submission wasn't one of the top, but keep trying and you'll get there soon!

 

[TONE]

Actually since there was only 2 checks for last week's Victim of the Week, i can add a 4th counter to make up for two checks tbh. It was just difficult to pick three counters. So I added Rennyjesus submission to the list.

 

[rubsomebacononit]

Golem as a check

Golem @ Weakness Policy
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Rock Blast
- Earthquake
- Sucker Punch
- Stealth Rock

When you first see this Pokemon, you might ask yourself, WHY GOLEM? Well, it's because it can set up rocks. It also has Sturdy, letting it live at least one attack. Raichu may Focus Blast or Hidden Power Ice Golem, but it will survive thanks to Sturdy, and gain a +2 Attack from Weakness Policy. Since Raichu is Choice Scarfed, Golem can predict a Sucker Punch and OHKO Raichu. Here's the Calculation:

+2 252+ Atk Golem Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Raichu: 292-344 (111.8 - 131.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

 

[Rennyjesus]

Actually since there was on 2 checks for last week's Victim of the Week, i can add a 4th counter to make up for two checks tbh. It was just difficult to pick three counters. So I added Rennyjesus submission to the list.

Thanks! :3 I believed that the rule of the 3 counters wasn't there anymore cuz I have seen some pokes with more than 3 counters! :3
But well... I'll be aware of that the next time!

 

[Kingler]

Piloswine as a check

Piloswine @ Eviolite
Ability: Oblivious
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Icicle Spear
- Ice Shard
- Earthquake
- Stealth Rock

gets 2hkoed by focus blast but u can play around that. you need 236 spdef evs to survive two after SR and 136 w/o SR but meh it still serves as a pretty standard n solid check to raichu

 

[Sebberball]

Dibs on thunder zebra! (Zebstrika)

Zebstrika @ Life Orb
Ability: Lightning Rod
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Thunderbolt
- Overheat
- Hidden Power [Grass]
- Volt Switch
status: Check

This form of Zebstrika is for countering Raichu with relative ease, since it can take all of th electric hits, and get a spatk boost at the side, allowing it to hit to deal more damage to the Raichu, it can hit it with an Overheat to make it hurt, since it has a choie scarf, if it gets locked into a Electric move, Zebstrika can get a spatk boost and 1hko Raichu with Over heat, if it does get a raise in Special Attack, it can only hope for a critical hit on overheat, or hope a -2 hidden power grass/overheat does the trick. since raichu can only hit Zebstika with Focus Blast, having it do 50.5 - 57.75 (i think) % of Zebstrika's Health, its a guaranteed 1HKO (see calcs below)

Zebstrika's Attacks (no +1 boost)
252 SpA Life Orb Zebstrika Overheat vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Raichu: 160-188 (61.3 - 72%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Life Orb Zebstrika Hidden Power Grass vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Raichu: 74-88 (28.3 - 33.7%) -- 0.4% chance to 3HKO
Zebstrika's Attacks (with +1 Boost)
+1 252 SpA Life Orb Zebstrika Overheat vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Raichu: 239-282 (91.5 - 108%) -- 50% chance to OHKO
+1 252 SpA Life Orb Zebstrika Hidden Power Grass vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Raichu: 110-131 (42.1 - 50.1%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKO
Raichu's Attacks (no +1 Boost)
252 SpA Raichu Focus Blast vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Zebstrika: 147-174 (50.5 - 59.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Raichu Hidden Power Ice vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Zebstrika: 74-88 (25.4 - 30.2%) -- guaranteed 4HKO
Raichu's Attacks (with +1 Boost)
+1 252 SpA Raichu Focus Blast vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Zebstrika: 221-260 (75.9 - 89.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+1 252 SpA Raichu Hidden Power Ice vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Zebstrika: 111-131 (38.1 - 45%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
^ all 4 of raichu's attacks prove the Check status, because zebstrika can't hit hit hard enough without a Spatk boost, and Raichu reaches a higher Spatk stat than Zebstrika, 279 vs 259, THUNDER ZEBRA IS A CHECK.

 

[Rennyjesus]

Reserving Gourgeist as a Check!
Gourgeist XL @ Leftovers
Ability: Frisk
Evs: 252 HP/ 92 Atk / 164 Def
Nature: Impish
Seed Bomb
Shadow Sneak
Synthesis
Will O Wisp

Here we have a tankish set for Gourgeist XL. With Seed Bomb + Shadow Sneak it can KO Raichu after stealth rock. Sadly I think it couldn't be considered a counter because Gourgeist will be receiving a quite a tad of damage if Raichu predicts well... Of course, with syntesis Gourgeist will be recovering enough damage to stay for long, which also helps it to defeat Raichu even receiving some HP Ice!

I will post the calcs later, but as I have said, SS+Seed Bomb will KO Raichu for sure after SR and Raichu can only 3HKO Gourgeist with HP Ice (and isn't a sure 3HKO by the way... Just around 65% chance)

Heck... I have found some more counters... But I can't put more than one until thursday... T_T or can you authorize me to put them? *_*

 

[RawMelon]

Clefairy as a counter

Clefairy @ Eviolite
Ability: Magic Guard
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpD / 4 Spe
Calm Nature
- Thunder Wave
- Stealth Rock
- Moonblast
- Soft-Boiled

Clefairy doesn't have to deviate from its normal set to take any hit Raichu has to offer and KO back with Moonblast after a couple of turns.

252 SpA Raichu Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Eviolite Clefairy: 73-87 (21.2 - 25.2%) -- 0% chance to 4HKO

0 SpA Clefairy Moonblast vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Raichu: 82-97 (31.4 - 37.1%) -- 79.7% chance to 3HKO

 

[Dundies]

Lickilicky as a counter

Lickilicky @ Leftovers
Ability: Oblivious
EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
- Wish
- Protect
- Knock Off
- Heal Bell

Basically Lickilicky can easily take any two hits, including Focus Blast from Raichu, use Wish, Protect, and Knock Off to slowly take Raichu out.

Calcs

252 SpA Raichu Focus Blast vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Lickilicky: 152-180 (35.9 - 42.5%) -- 93.5% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery

252 SpA Raichu Thunderbolt vs. 248 HP / 252+ SpD Lickilicky: 85-102 (20 - 24.1%) -- possible 6HKO after Leftovers recovery

8 Atk Lickilicky Knock Off vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Raichu: 67-79 (25.6 - 30.2%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

 

[Rennyjesus]

Since two of the one that I've already thought are taken, I'm gonna reserve the others! Reserving Sliggoo, Hypno, Dragonair and Gogoat as counters and Munchlax and Zweilous as checks...