Then again, seeing how there are herbs in the games that can revive Pokemon completely and cookies and ice cream that can cure Pokemon of burns, paralysis, sleep, and being frozen I'm willing to bet food plays a bigger role here...
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SPOILERS! Mysteries and Conspiracies of Pokemon
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I'm thinking they absorb the lost energy (Exp, Life Energy, whatever were calling it now.) and use it to heal, but it also makes them stronger. Anyway, there are actual moves that drain HP and give it to the Pokemon who used it.
I have two things here.
- In R/S/E, in the Slateport Market, if you talk to one of the sailors, or if you click on some of the merchandise (not sure which one) text will say, 'The seaweed here is so fresh and full of life. Why, it looks like it could rear up and attack you!' It says the same thing in OR/AS as well. Could this have been a basis for GameFreak to use for the later introduced Skrelp (and Dragalge), Pokémon that camouflage themselves as seaweed/kelp?
- In OR/AS, in one of the rented apartments (specifically the one where the man who later becomes Mr. Bonding lives), there is a TM for U-Turn on the balcony. Could this reference that fact that the man who 'had no power' considered committing suicide by jumping off the balcony, but 'u-turned' out of it and decided not to kill himself in the end? It seems like a bit of a dark route for GameFreak to go, but then again, Sea Mauville exists.
I personally think the first theory is a little to out-of-the-way/obscure for what you suggest, plus they're based off a real life animal (the leafy sea dragon). Your second theory, however, actually sounds pretty legit.
Why is N allowed to challenge the Elite Four in BW? He has 0 badges (I checked at the Gyms and the only certified trainers are the player character, Bianca and Cheren.)
Oh, and N was the Champion when we fought him at the Castle so why aren't we the Champion when we defeated him? It was quite weird that you have to fight the previous Champion to be a Champion yourself when you have already defeated the current Champion.
Oh, and N was the Champion when we fought him at the Castle so why aren't we the Champion when we defeated him? It was quite weird that you have to fight the previous Champion to be a Champion yourself when you have already defeated the current Champion.
I'm pretty sure he was collecting him off-screen. You even fight him right outside the Narcene Gym, implying he just finished beating Lenora.
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But U-turn's Japanese name isn't really U-turn. It means more like "dragonfly coming back"
Edit: It's difficult to translate, but it's supposed to describe a dragonfly.
But if he defeated a Gym Leader, his name would be on the sign you can examine in the Gym. The only names there as I said are the Player, Bianca and Cheren.
(It's the same thing in RBY too where the only certified trainers are you and Blue)
Or in ORAS/RS? (I never played the originals.) How Wally starts showing up.
According to Bulbapedia it means "Round-trip." That honestly makes the reference much darker if what they said is true.
The only explanation I have for that is it's a plot hole or minor detail inconsistency.
Um explain please? I'm not sure what you mean.
I'm betting this option It is implied that he's using the dragon to take down all the gym leaders and that they called in Alder while N was collecting the badges to put up a final challenge (though how they were able to get by without a champion for years is beyond me).
Either that or there is another secret 8 gyms that N got his badges from that we didn't hear about in the games (like what happened with Humilau, Virbank, and Aspierta Cities in Black and White?)
Not so sure about the seaweed thing, as Karxrida said they could be referencing the Leafy Seadragon which Kingdra was based on before the Skrelp family. Besides being this is the Pokemon world maybe one day there would be a straight up Seaweed Pokemon.
Not the first time they hinted at a character possibly wanting to commit suicide. Remember the old man in Anistar City who you give a weak Pokemon to to keep him company in XY? There's a hidden Escape Rope nearby the house which many has taken as being from the lonely old man. And as for general darkness, some have taken the Antidote found in the trash in the Old Chateau in the Gen IV games as possibly meaning the people who lived in the house were poisoned. And then there's Sea Mauville.
Maybe N didn't give his name? I imagine N just swooping into the Gym, challenging the Gym leader, beating them for the Badge, and leaving not really caring to be "honored" by his name being printed on the entrance plaque.
And maybe N wasn't recognized as Champion since he kind of tried taking over Unova and I would think that would disqualify you. That or he never entered his team into the Hall of Fame, can't be Champion if you're not in the Hall of Fame. Or N could be just A Champion while Alder is still the League Champion, but we've already opened up that can of worms with Steven in ORAS.
U-turn's Japanese name is "Round-trip". Actually from other sources it sounds more like it's suppose to be translated as "somersault" which in Japanese is called "dragonfly return". Once again, like with Aerial Ace, the pun is used to give it its Bug-typing, however the meaning is still there. The Powerless Man was thinking of committing suicide by jumping off the balcony, but his mind somersaulted the idea and he never went through with it.
Actually it seemed implied that the reason Cheren, Roxie, and Marlon became Gym Leaders is because the Striaton Trio, Lenora, and Brycen quit. Though that could just me reading into too much of the meta. Afterall to participate in the Indigo League you either need the Kanto OR the Johto badges (and the anime seems to imply you can mix and match them, though the anime also says there are WAY more Gyms that we never see except for their Badges).
Actually, that sounds like a fun topic. What types do you think these badges came from?
Or Team Plasma stole them from the gym leaders.
I just meant for certified trainers in the gym.
I've got a theory on the "Powerless Man" and U-Turn which doesn't involve a suicide attempt:
The guy must have been an aspiring acrobat, and bought the TM for "Somersault" because it gives creatures the power to, well, tumble gracefully through the air. He went out to the balcony, held the TM against his forehead, waited for something to happen, then threw it aside when he thought it had taught him to Somersault. He then promptly tried to jump off the balcony.
He's now crippled because he broke something important in the fall. Powerless, if you like.
...is that a less dark spin on the tale?
The guy must have been an aspiring acrobat, and bought the TM for "Somersault" because it gives creatures the power to, well, tumble gracefully through the air. He went out to the balcony, held the TM against his forehead, waited for something to happen, then threw it aside when he thought it had taught him to Somersault. He then promptly tried to jump off the balcony.
He's now crippled because he broke something important in the fall. Powerless, if you like.
...is that a less dark spin on the tale?
Do you mean acrobatics instead of somersault? Or am I just missing something here
But he became the Powerless Man right after having to fire the Sea Mauville crew. He moved to Mauville City and remained secluded as the Powerless Man until the 5 Old Guys gave him the power to become Mr. Bonding.
Actually, after beating Alder and before challenging the player, N describes himself as a trainer who is stronger than the champion. This would seem to indicate that he, for some reason, chose to not take the title of Champion.
Likely because should Team Plasma's plan have succeeded, all trainers' Pokemon would be 'liberated', thus he felt no desire for the title.
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True
U turn should mean dragonfly return
I dun agree with Bulbapedias translation
I just remembered a detail that makes this theory impossible:
We know for a fact that the eight BW1 badges are all that exist at the time. How? The Badge Check Gates! There is exactly one for each badge in BW1 and they are specific for each one with no ambiguity. (This also applies to Kanto and Kalos)
One problem with relying on the Gym Statues is the fact that we only ever see the names of ourselves and our rivals on them, despite the fact that we know that others have been there. In GSCHGSS, when we go to Kanto, Red and Blue's names are nowhere to be seen on the Gym Statues (with the understandable change of Fuchsia and Viridian since both have different leaders...one of which IS Blue) yet we know that by the end of the previous Generation that they had defeated all eight Kanto gyms. Same for the player, Bianca, and Cheren in B2W2.* Plus, in every single game, Victory Road is infested with
I cry "game mechanics" a lot, don't I?
*Unless the Memory Link changes things, I don't know.
Well, you could say that in itself is fairly conjectural. We have no idea how the gyms are run/how often the names are wiped. Are we involved within a single "season"?
For example, are birthdays split into 6 month/12 month gaps? We already know not every trainer starts with a Starter, only selected individuals do (mainly because you cannot catch them in the wild, and there is maybe a handful of trainers that I recall who use a Starter at all). It could be that every year, or everytime a new champion is crowned that the gyms "wipe" the list of trainers from the main posts, but keep records related to winners somewhere else. Relating this to N is easy... They did have the technology to hide a GIANT BUILDING under the ground, so N could have feasibly just tunneled/teleported/got into the E4 chamber without too much trouble...
It always seems odd that you only ever see the player and the rival(s) there [On the posts]. But then again, no one ever moves so...
For example, are birthdays split into 6 month/12 month gaps? We already know not every trainer starts with a Starter, only selected individuals do (mainly because you cannot catch them in the wild, and there is maybe a handful of trainers that I recall who use a Starter at all). It could be that every year, or everytime a new champion is crowned that the gyms "wipe" the list of trainers from the main posts, but keep records related to winners somewhere else. Relating this to N is easy... They did have the technology to hide a GIANT BUILDING under the ground, so N could have feasibly just tunneled/teleported/got into the E4 chamber without too much trouble...
It always seems odd that you only ever see the player and the rival(s) there [On the posts]. But then again, no one ever moves so...
Maybe there are multiple names on the plaque but the only names your character cares to notice is their own and their rival. True that still doesn't explain why N's name isn't there, but as said N probably doesn't care no want his name to be associated with Pokemon battling.
Or N went by his full name. No one would have realized that Natural Harmonia Gropius is him so the player just overlooked it, especially if he/she was only looking to find Cheren and Bianca.
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