Serperior

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[OVERVIEW]

No one would have ever thought about using Serperior until the long-awaited release of its Dream World ability, Contrary. This ability, when combined with Leaf Storm, gives Serperior a 130 Base Power STAB move with the side effect of a Nasty Plot, allowing it to attack and boost its Special Attack at the same time! This would have turned Serperior into a terrifying special sweeper if it weren't for its middling special movepool, which is limited to Dragon Pulse and Hidden Power for coverage. This has led to the rise of defensive Serperior being the more popular set as a way to check physical attackers with the combination of Reflect, Synthesis, and Rocky Helmet, with Leaf Storm tacked on to maintain an offensive presence. Serperior can also make use of several other great support moves including Glare, Taunt, Light Screen, and Leech Seed.

Serperior is gifted with a great Speed stat, which allows it to outspeed key physical threats such as Garchomp and Mega Kangaskhan, as well as anything slower, meaning it can quickly set up Reflect before being attacked or pick off a weakened foe with Leaf Storm while gaining the Special Attack boost. Being weak to common Pokemon such as Talonflame, Blaziken, Mega Salamence, and Greninja, as well as being a little frail without Reflect set up and weak before a Leaf Storm boost, might make it seem as though Serperior would be a poor choice for your team; however, as far as Grass-type options go, having access to Contrary and not taking up a Mega slot are huge points in Serperior's favor.

[SET]
name: Solid Snake
move 1: Reflect
move 2: Synthesis
move 3: Leaf Storm
move 4: Glare / Hidden Power Rock / Taunt
item: Rocky Helmet
ability: Contrary
nature: Timid
evs: 116 HP / 220 Def / 172 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves

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Reflect is used to lessen the damage received from physical attackers such as Garchomp and Mega Kangaskhan, which allows Serperior to take more hits and thus inflict more damage with its Rocky Helmet. Synthesis is important for healing so that Serperior can continue to stall physical attackers. Leaf Storm is Serperior's main source of offense, and it works well in conjunction with Contrary to give it a +2 boost in Special Attack every time it hits the foe; this brings Serperior's power to great levels even without Special Attack investment after a couple of boosts. Glare is fantastic for supporting Serperior's teammates, as the Speed drop can allow slower Pokemon such as Dragonite, Suicune, Porygon2, and Glalie to outspeed faster foes and can provide opportunities to set up or heal when they become fully paralyzed. It is also a great safe option when predicting a switch, as only Electric-type Pokemon are immune to it, and the only notable Electric-type Pokemon that is comfortable switching into Serperior is Zapdos. Hidden Power Rock can be used to hit Pokemon that resist Leaf Storm, such as Talonflame, Mega Charizard X and Y, Mega Salamence, and Dragonite, as well as many other Fire- and Flying-types, but it is quite weak without several boosts. Taunt is an option for shutting down defensive Pokemon such as Chansey, Ferrothorn, Cresselia, and Sableye.

Set Details
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A Timid nature with 172 Speed EVs allows Serperior to outspeed Garchomp, the fastest, most relevant physical attacker that Serperior should be used to wall, while the remaining EVs are put into HP and Defense to allow Serperior to check physical attackers as well as possible. 116 HP and 220 Defense EVs give the best balance and allow Serperior to avoid a OHKO from Adamant Mega Kangaskhan's Double-Edge and take less than 50% from it with Reflect up, meaning Serperior can stall it with Synthesis. If using Hidden Power Rock, you'll need to increase the Speed EVs to 176 to still outspeed Garchomp due to the IV drop involved; this makes the most efficient balance of HP and Defense 140 HP (31 IV) and 192 Def (30 IV). This does, however, give Adamant Mega Kangaskhan a very minor chance to OHKO with Double-Edge due to the drop in Defense. Rocky Helmet is the best item to use, as it inflicts chip damage on physical attackers, allowing Serperior to whittle them down into Leaf Storm's KO range.

Usage Tips
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This set aims to check physical attackers and allow Serperior to boost its Special Attack against them while it tanks their moves. Serperior is actually quite frail without Reflect being set up, so it is best to either lead with this Serperior or get it onto the field after a slow Volt Switch or U-turn or after one of your own Pokemon has been knocked out so that it doesn't have to take unnecessary damage. If you can predict a weaker move such as Kangaskhan's Fake Out or Garchomp's Earthquake, Serperior can use those as an opportunity to switch in without taking too much damage. Try to get Reflect set up as soon as possible; however, if you predict a switch to a special attacker, it might not be the best move. Glare is usually the safest option, as only Electric-type Pokemon are immune to it, and the paralysis support is often more beneficial to Serperior's teammates than Reflect's Defense boost. Once Serperior is comfortably behind Reflect against a physical attacker or the foe has been weakened enough, it can begin using Leaf Storm to boost its Special Attack and attempt a sweep.

Team Options
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Serperior is a sitting duck against Flying- and Fire-type Pokemon, both of which are a common sight in the Battle Spot Singles metagame and include powerhouses such as Mega Salamence, Talonflame, Mega Charizard X and Y, and Blaziken, so adequate team support is necessary. Landorus-T is an excellent choice due to its ability to offer defensive support with Intimidate, get Serperior onto the field safely with U-turn, and take on these Pokemon. Mega Manectric, while being much frailer, is an example of a Pokemon with Intimidate and access to a pivoting move in Volt Switch. Suicune pairs well, as it forms a strong physically defensive core with Serperior and is capable of taking Ice-type attacks from Pokemon such as Greninja lacking Grass Knot, Weavile, and Mamoswine. Mega Charizard X and Y both are handy partners for Serperior, as they are able to take on Steel-types such as Aegislash, Mega Mawile, Scizor, Ferrothorn, Mega Metagross, and Heatran. Mega Charizard Y also provides sun support with its ability Drought, which increases the amount of HP Serperior receives from Synthesis. Porygon2 is a decent partner for its ability to check Pokemon such as Greninja, Talonflame, and Mega Salamence. It also appreciates the support that Reflect and Glare provide. Clefable greatly appreciates the support from Reflect and Glare too, as it allows it to set up Calm Mind and Minimize more easily against physical attackers.

[SET]
name: Offensive Leaf Storm
move 1: Leaf Storm
move 2: Hidden Power Fire / Hidden Power Ground
move 3: Dragon Pulse
move 4: Glare / Taunt
item: Focus Sash / Life Orb / Lum Berry
ability: Contrary
nature: Timid
evs: 248 SpA / 12 SpD / 248 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves

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Leaf Storm, in combination with Contrary, is the only reason to use this set, and it is the main move that you will be selecting in battle. Hidden Power and Dragon Pulse are chosen as a means of hitting the Steel- and Dragon-type Pokemon that resist Leaf Storm. Fire is the preferred type, as it hits Ferrothorn and Scizor for 4x super effective damage and hits Skarmory super effectively. Ground can be used instead to hit Heatran hard. Dragon Pulse hits Mega Salamence, Mega Charizard X and Y, Dragonite, Latios, Latias, Hydreigon, and Mega Sceptile, but Leaf Storm is more powerful against Garchomp because of its secondary Ground typing. Glare is the preferred option in the last slot for its ability to paralyze anything that isn't an Electric-type, but Taunt can be used to stop Pokemon such as Chansey and Cresselia from using their many status moves. Hidden Power Rock can be used as a way to surprise Talonflame and Mega Charizard Y switch-ins, but doing so leaves Serperior walled by Steel-types.

Set Details
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Because Hidden Power Fire requires an even IV in both Special Attack and Speed, 248 EVs in these stats is the most efficient number at level 50. The leftover 12 EVs are put into Special Defense to give Download Porygon2 an Attack boost. If using Hidden Power Ground, an EV spread of 248 SpA / 8 SpD / 252 Spe should be used. Timid is used to get the jump on fast Pokemon such as Garchomp, Mega Lucario, Latios, Latias, Mega Kangaskhan, and everything else in the crowded base 100 Speed tier. Focus Sash is used because Serperior is actually quite frail and is prone to being OHKOed by stronger attacks. A Life Orb can be used instead to give Serperior a much-needed boost to its attacks. A Lum Berry is also an option to protect against Thunder Waves and Swaggers, which are quite common in the metagame.

Usage Tips
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Focus Sash Serperior does not want to switch into attacks, as this breaks the Focus Sash, rendering it useless. Therefore, it is best to either lead with Serperior or bring it in as a revenge killer. Life Orb and Lum Berry Serperior can switch more freely; however, it is still unadvised due to Serperior's frailty. Try to take advantage of Water-type Pokemon such as Azumarill, Suicune, and Rotom-W to start gaining boosts with Leaf Storm, or start boosting by finishing off slower foes such as Garchomp, Landorus-T, Gliscor, and Gyarados that have been weakened to within Leaf Storm's KO range. Serperior's coverage moves are quite weak before boosting, so even if you can hit something super effectively with them it is advised to try to boost first so that they can do more respectable damage. If you predict a switch, Glare is a great option, as often boosting against a switch-in is wasted by Serperior needing to switch out, whereas paralysis lasts the whole match.

Team Options
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As mentioned previously, Serperior is actually quite frail and falls victim to bulkier Pokemon that it cannot KO, so it needs strong defensive support to succeed. Intimidate users such as Landorus-T, Mega Salamence, and Gyarados are great for their ability to beat Serperior's Fire-type checks, whereas the Defense drop granted by Intimidate can also help Serperior take some physical attacks itself. Bulky Water-types such as Suicune, Rotom-W, and Mega Slowbro are fantastic for taking on strong physical attackers such as Talonflame and Mega Kangaskhan and help create two-thirds of a Fire / Water / Grass core. Mega Charizard X or Y can be used to take on the many Steel-types that wall Serperior, such as Aegislash. Mega Charizard Y also provides sun support, which increases the power of Serperior's Hidden Power Fire, while both Mega formes appreciate having opposing Water- and Rock-types dealt with by Serperior. Porygon2 can help check Greninja, Talonflame, and Mega Salamence. Garchomp can be used to dispatch Fire- and Steel-types and also enjoys having Serperior to deal with bulky Water-types. Slow Volt Switch and U-turn users can be used to help get Serperior onto the field safely; these include Rotom-W, Scizor, and defensive Landorus-T.


[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options

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Giga Drain can be used on the all-out attacker set as a way to recover health, but it is weak without Special Attack boosts and severely outclassed by Leaf Storm as a way to deal damage. Light Screen is an option for patching Serperior's Special Defense on the Solid Snake set, but Serperior generally prefers Glare's support or Hidden Power Rock's coverage. Knock Off can be used to cripple item-reliant Pokemon, but the Solid Snake set isn't fazed by many items and the all-out attacker would rather be trying to boost or KO the foe. Mirror Coat can be used alongside a Focus Sash as a way to surprise special attackers. Mean Look can be used to trap Pokemon that Serperior can set up on, but it requires Serperior to give up valuable coverage or Glare. Swagger can be used in conjunction with Glare to form a parafusion set, but it's better done by Pokemon such as Klefki and Liepard, which have access to Prankster. Hidden Power Ice can be used over Dragon Pulse as a way to still hit Dragon-type Pokemon, but especially Salamence and Dragonite, as well as Garchomp and Landorus-T; however, it means losing Fire- or Ground-type coverage, which leaves Serperior walled by Steel-types. Leech Seed is an option on the Solid Snake set as a way to passively recover health while also whittling down the health of the foe; however, Synthesis usually provides enough recovery, and Glare is overall more valuable in the last slot. A Choice Scarf or Choice Specs can be used to spam Leaf Storm more quickly or more powerfully, respectively; however, being locked into Leaf Storm will leave Serperior walled by anything that resists Grass, and Serperior's coverage moves are quite weak when it can't make use of its boosts from Leaf Storm.

Checks and Counters
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**Talonflame**: Talonflame ignores Serperior's Speed with priority Brave Bird and OHKOes it unless Reflect is up. It also 4x resists Leaf Storm, but it has to watch out for Hidden Power Rock.

**Greninja**: Greninja is naturally faster than Serperior and can OHKO it with Ice Beam. It can't switch into a Leaf Storm, though, and has to watch out for Glare.

**Mega Salamence**: Mega Salamence is naturally faster than Serperior and can KO it with an Aerilate-boosted Return or Double-Edge. It can also use Serperior as setup fodder for Dragon Dance due to its 4x resistance to Leaf Storm, but it has to watch out for a boosted Dragon Pulse.

**Gengar**: Gengar resists Leaf Storm due to its Poison typing and can KO Serperior with Sludge Bomb. Mega Gengar is even bigger trouble because it outspeeds Serperior and traps it with Shadow Tag.

**Fire-types**: Mega Charizard X and Y, Blaziken, Heatran, Rotom-H, Volcarona, and Chandelure all resist Leaf Storm and can KO Serperior with their Fire-type STAB moves. Serperior can carry Hidden Power Rock or Ground, however, so they have to watch out for that.

**Steel-types**: Aegislash, Mawile, Ferrothorn, Scizor, Skarmory and Klefki all resist Leaf Storm and are usually bulky enough to outlast Serperior. They need to watch out for a super effective Hidden Power, though, especially Ferrothorn and Scizor, as they are 4x weak to Hidden Power Fire, Serperior's preferred type.

**Fast Electric-types**: Raikou, Mega Manectric, Jolteon, and Choice Scarf Thundurus-T are immune to Glare by virtue of their typing, outspeed Serperior, and can 2HKO it with Hidden Power Ice or, in Mega Manectric's case, Flamethrower. Thundurus can also paralyze Serperior with Prankster Thunder Wave.

**Zapdos**: Zapdos not only is immune to Glare due to its Electric typing, but it also resists Leaf Storm and can stall out its PP with Roost and its ability, Pressure.

**Porygon2**: While it can't tank boosted Leaf Storms, Download Porygon2 can come in against the Solid Snake set and receive a Special Attack boost, after which it stands a good chance to OHKO Serperior with Ice Beam.

**Cresselia and Chansey**: If Serperior lacks Taunt, Cresselia and Chansey are solid counters to Serperior and can stall it out with their recovery and status moves.
 
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Taunt should be a slash on Bulky Booster's 4th slot. Denying Stealth Rock from Garchomp for the likes of Charizard, Talonflame and Volcarona is really big and one of Serperior's biggest utilities. For reference. Charizard is the most common partner for Serperior, and Salamence/Talonflame are pretty up there too. It also allows Serperior to annihilate Cresselia, Chansey, stop Minimize cheeses and probably even more stuff.

For the record, Swagger (+ Glare) is also a thing on Serperior (ugh...), and it should (probably) get a mention in moves or OO although it is only sitting at 6% usage.

Lum Berry is worth mentioning in the second set. I'm personally not a big fan of Focus Sash Serperior, but it has decent usage so...

Team Options for Bulky Attacker: Stealth Rock setters ('Chomp, Mamoswine, Landog), as it helps wearing down some of Serperior's biggest nemesis, attackers which benefit from paralysis spread and Reflect (Mega Mom is probably the main offender, but there's also Mega Mawile, Salamence and probably other stuff) and switch ins against threatening Pokemon (which I think you've covered flawlessly)

Usage tips are straightforward too, so it's not like you're missing on anything. Fuck up with physical attackers, heal when required, Taunt walls and alike if you have it, switch to a wallbreaker if you don't, spread paralysis and passive damage. It can also attempt to clean up, but that's better left off for full-on offensive sets.

Checks and counters: Kangaskhan shouldn't be first due to the Rocky Helmet set being as common as it is. Everything else is fine, although I'd mention Volcarona as a Bug-type since it often carries Lum Berry and can tank +0 Hidden Power Rock decently well.

(note: These are just some thoughts, feel free to do whatever you like with them n_n)
 

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Thanks a lot Pearl. Taunt is indeed a cool idea so I've slashed it in. I'm gonna leave Swagger+Glare in OO since it's a bit gimmicky and done better by Klefki anyway coz of priority. I slashed Lum onto the all-out attacker too..

I need to go through a lot of Luci's old stuff to clean up (like Kang up the top of C&C etc.) but i'll do that when I have some free time. Good call on Volc though, it mostly walls the bulky set since you can't OHKO it even at +2 (whereas the all-out attacker cleanly OHKOs it) so I'll just make sure I explain all that...
 

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I'd slash in Hidden Power Fire on the Bulky Booster set. Main reason is that while it doesn't deal with Charizard and Talonflame as well, it gives Serperior a move to use against Ferrothorn. This is especially valuable with Suicune, since it puts less pressure on a Fire-type to deal with Ferrothorn.

I don't have experience with the set myself, but something to note in usage tips is that Serperior isn't really all that "bulky" per say. Its more about using Reflect to screw up certain mons like Kangaskhan and Garchomp. You don't want to actually be switching Serperior in on really powerful attacks all the time, because its bulk isnt THAT great. Getting it in after a kill or like you said, a Fake Out, is the way to go.

Also in the checks section, I'd probably put Volcarona under the Fire-types, since it 4x resists Leaf Storm and can even Quiver Dance on you.
 

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OK I've stripped this right down to bullet points as I wanted to rewrite all of Lucina's old parts anyway. Thought it's about time this was in QC so it is!
 

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A few things -

You might want to be slightly more specific about "a lack of offensive options" - maybe say instead that it lacks coverage and can only hit specific targets. What you currently have is a different way of saying the same thing, however I feel that referring more to the small amount of things that Serperior can hit (without boosts anyway) than to the moves themselves would be slightly more... concise, i guess?

Also, add Raikou, Jolteon and Mega Manectric to the Checks and counters list, along with any Scarfed Electric-types like Thundurus-T; Electric-types are the only Pokémon in the game, other than Limber Pokémon, that are immune to Glare, which is one of Serperior's biggest weapons against offense, maybe moreso than Leaf Storm. These Pokémon are all capable of 2HKOing with Hidden Power [Ice] if they hold a Life Orb aside from Mega Manectric, which does ~75% with Flamethrower anyway. None of them are really capable of taking more than one Leaf Storm, however, which makes them shaky at best; Thundurus-T can so it's probably the best check. They're certainly more useful against the Reflect set.

You have most of the QC from when Lucina was writing in the points already so there isn't an awful lot left to add; I hope these are worth adding :s
 

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Comments in bold

[OVERVIEW]

+ Contrary is awesome yes yes it is
+ Leaf Storm is awesome I miss to much, 100% accurate pls, mention that contrary + leafstorm is why this is good. Its obvious butcha know
+ quite fast Its p fast, but still misses out on a lot of important things, I'd mention those htings
+ possibly the best (non-mega) offensive grass type
+ lots of nice support moves such as?

- lacking offensive options. special movepool consists solely of Grass-STAB, Dragon Pulse and whichever Hidden Power type you chose.
- not super bulky
- weak to common stuff like Talonflame, Blaziken, Salamence, Greninja
mention that its weak before setup, i.e. it needs at least one Leaf Storm up to do any notable damage.

[SET]
name: Solid Snake
move1: Reflect
move2: Synthesis
move3: Leaf Storm
move4: Hidden Power Rock / Taunt / Glare
item: Rocky Helmet
ability: Contrary
nature: Timid
evs: 252 HP / 8 Spd / 248 Spe
ivs: 31/30/30/31/30/30 I'm like 95% sure that these aren't supposed to be mentioned at all. The IVs from a Hidden Power are supposed to be "common knowledge"

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
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  • Reflect for physical bulk and helps rack up helmet recoil good for checking what?
  • Synthesis for sustain
  • Leaf Storm to take advantage of Contrary and rack up boosts
  • HP Rock to beat Talonflame / Charizard, deal neutral damage to Salamence / Dragonite / Heatran. Other types can be used depending on what you want to hit. Good ones include Ground and Fire (any others?). switch glare and taunt, cause slashed 2nd / 3rd respectively Glare to paralyse which can aid either your set up or a teammate. Taunt is great for stopping stuff like Stealth Rock from being set up, really messes up stuff like Cres, P2 and the like from statusing you etc.

Set Details
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  • EVs are taking HP Rock into account. 30 speed IV means 252 wastes 4 so it's brought down to 248. 30 SpD IV needs 8 to go up a point to make it higher than its Def to screw Download P2.
    • Ive tried to drop the speed down one point since tying with Mega Luke is pretty pointless, but allocating the remaining EVs is awkward because of the mixture of IVs, so the only efficient one is 252 HP / 16 SpD / 240 Spe, which doesn't seem to be that much better than what I have already so will probably just use what I have (I'm assuming 31/x/30/31/30/30)
  • Timid to capitalise on speed
  • Rocky Helmet in conjunction with Reflect and Synthesis punishes physical attackers

Usage Tips
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  • Try to bring it in on a Kang Fake Out / Chomp EQ / any physical attacker that Serp doesn't mind and set up Reflect asap. Heal if you need to and then start racking up boosts
  • This is where I need to test it the most. I know what to use but not really how to use it. I'll just stick it in front of physical attackers and see what it can beat
  • 252 Atk Parental Bond Mega Kangaskhan Fake Out vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Serperior: 54-64 (29.6 - 35.1%) -- 15.8% chance to 3HKO
  • 252 Atk Parental Bond Mega Kangaskhan Return vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Serperior: 135-159 (74.1 - 87.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
  • 252 Atk Parental Bond Mega Kangaskhan Return vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Serperior through Reflect: 67-79 (36.8 - 43.4%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
  • This means that you don't want to be switching in serp on physical attackers, it needs to already be in otherwise you will risk the 2hko. So talk about leading with it if you see mega kanga / other physical stuff in team preview and getting reflect up asap.
  • Pretty much talk about when (after you have reflect up) to attack and when to recover.

Team Options
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  • Stuff that can beat birdspam (ie: Talonflame, Mega Salamence, Mega Pinsir etc) so things like Rotom-W/H, Zapdos, Landorus-T, Gyarados
  • Suicune can form 2/3 of a FWG core, also helps take on physical attackers / beats opposing fire types
  • Charizard X and Y. The former is just a physical powerhouse that destroys opposing Steels for you, Y provides sunlight which boosts Synthesis. Other fire types like Talonflame and Blaziken are also good
  • Porygon2 is good for checking stuff like Greninja, Talonflame and Salamence. Also loves having a turn or two of Reflect up

[SET]
name: All Out Attacker
move1: Leaf Storm
move2: Hidden Power Fire / Hidden Power Ground
move3: Dragon Pulse
move4: Glare / Taunt
item: Focus Sash / Life Orb / Lum Berry
ability: Contrary
nature: Timid
evs: 248 SpA / 12 SpD / 248 Spe
ivs: 31/30/31/30/31/30 once again, hidden power iv spreads are considered common knowledge

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
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  • Leaf Storm is mandatory with Contrary
  • Hidden Powers help hit steels. Fire hits Ferro, Skarm and Scizor, Ground hits Heatran
  • Dragon Pulse is used because you have no other options it hits Dragons like Garchomp, Salamence and Dragonite Leaf Storm is actually better against Dragons neutral to Leaf Storm. The only time you should use this is if they resist Leaf Storm.
  • Glare is cool for paralyzing stuff, good for when your limited coverage fails you and so you can get in a clutch para before dying. Taunt totally stops annoying things like Cresselia and Chansey.
  • Hidden Power Rock is an option for totally wrecking Talonflame (assuming you have an intact sash) and Charizard Y

Set Details
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  • 248 SpA and Spe is because of hidden power Fire requiring 30 IVs in those stats. If using HP Ground you should have 248 SpA / 8 SpD / 252 Spe coz the IV spread is 31/x/31/30/30/31
  • Timid for maximum speeds
  • Contrary because it's good
  • Focus Sash lets you live one big scary hit. Life Orb gives you many powers. Lum Berry cures stuff like paralysis and poison that could be problematic

Usage Tips
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  • You want to accumulate Leaf Storm boosts asap so that you can KO things with your coverage moves. Bring in Serp against Water types like Suicune, Rotom-W and Azumarill and either bop them with Leaf Storm or get a free boost as they switch out.
  • If running Sash, it's best to either lead with Serp or bring it in after something faints to keep the Sash intact.
  • Works best late game when the opponents team has been weakened so you can just spam Leaf Storm you just said to lead with it ?.? These need a bit of work, tell me what to click and when. What Kind of things other than bulky water types can I bring it in against? if nothing then how do I bring it in? What do I do against counters?

Team Options
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  • Intimidate users help patch Serp's defense (so stuff like Lando, Gyara, Mence) Talonflame counters?
  • Bulky Waters like Suicune and (Mega) Slowbro help deal with physical threats and help make that FWG core.
  • Charizard X and Y help get rid of Steels that can wall your sweep. Drought is helpful for powering up Hidden Power Fire
  • Porygon2 checks troublesome mons like Greninja, Talonflame and Salamence
  • Garchomp can scare off fire and/or steel types, also appreciates having bulky waters being dealt with
  • Slow Volt Switch / U-turn users like Rotom-W and Scizor can help get Serperior onto the field with its Sash intact


[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
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  • Giga Drain for health without resorting to Synthesis
  • Light Screen can be used alongside Reflect for more walling
  • Knock Off can screw things that need their item
  • Choice Scarf can be used to spam Leaf Storm
  • Mirror Coat ca be used alongside a Focus Sash or Assault Vest to surprise specal attackers
  • Mean Look can be used to trap something that you can set up on
  • Glare + Swagger can be used if you're a bad person
  • Hidden Power Ice can be used instead of Dragon Pulse to hit all the Dragons (especially Chomp, Mence and Nite) as well as Lando

Checks & Counters
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this needs to be written out at some point, im trusting you to do it. But make sure for write up you outline specific scenarios.

**Talonflame:** wrecks you with Gale Wings Brave Bird

**Greninja:** wrecks you with Ice Beam

**Mega Salamence:** wrecks you with Aerilate Double-Edge

**Gengar:** resists your moves and KOs with Sludge Bomb. Mega Gengar is worse because it's faster and more powerful (can also trap)

**Fire-types:** Mega Charixards and Blaziken wall your moves and KO with their fire ones

**Steel-types:** Aegislash, Mawile and Heatran resist your moves if lacking the right Hidden Power and can hit back hard

**Fast Electric-types:** Raikou, Mega Manectric, Jolteon and Choice Scarf Thundurus-T are immune to Glare by virtue of typing, outspeed Serp and can 2HKO with Hidden Power Ice (or Flamethrower in Manectric's case)

**Porygon2:** doesnt like copping boosted Leaf Storms but can 2HKO with Ice Beam
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I think Glare should be slashed before HP rock on the reflect set. Glare is a lot less situational than hp rock and in general it's more useful imo. Unless there's been a huge amount of success with HP rock that idk about but even still, your teammates are going to be beating everything that hp rock beats anyway.

When you mention volt switch & uturn i would mention lando-t as well since it also doubles as a mon that can beat bird & steel and fire types. i know scarf isnt the slow u-turn you need but the av & helmet sets are.

Under steel types for C&C, i would put a quick mention that ferro & scizor still have to watch out for hp fire on the offensive set. Under electric types, mention thund-i can prankster twave you.

Everything else looks pretty good 2/3


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thanks NOVED (I feel honoured that you chose my analysis for your first check hehe). Glare is definitely a solid option. I guess it may be because I use Hidden Power Rock personally so I'm a little biased towards where I slash it. If I move it to second, I'll probably have to fix up the EV spread to suit a 31/x/31/31/31/31 spread and leave a note in set details about the HP rock spread incase people want to use it...

yeah I love using Lando with Serp. will have my hands on an Impish one soon so I'm excited to see if it's better than the Scarf set

good point about ferro and scizor

will implement soon!
 

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I believe Serperior sometimes runs enough Defense to not be OHKOed by Adamant Kanga Double Edge so you can switch it in and attempt to force a one for one when the situation calls

Glare is more than just a paralysis support. It's incredibly hard to block a Glare from Serperior because Serperior destroys the usual answer to Thunder Wave (oh and Glare hits Ground types too), and Electric types are a bit hesitant to switch into Serp (barring Zapdos perhaps)

Also mention Zapdos as an answer to the defensive set as it can Pressure stall Leaf Storms and doesnt really care much about the rest of the moves.

Worth mentioning Clefable as a partner as it can really abuse Serperior's Reflect/Glare support with Minimize and Calm Mind.

Leech Seed should be mentioned in other options.

Otherwise QC 3/3
 

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I believe Serperior sometimes runs enough Defense to not be OHKOed by Adamant Kanga Double Edge so you can switch it in and attempt to force a one for one when the situation calls

Glare is more than just a paralysis support. It's incredibly hard to block a Glare from Serperior because Serperior destroys the usual answer to Thunder Wave (oh and Glare hits Ground types too), and Electric types are a bit hesitant to switch into Serp (barring Zapdos perhaps)

Also mention Zapdos as an answer to the defensive set as it can Pressure stall Leaf Storms and doesnt really care much about the rest of the moves.

Worth mentioning Clefable as a partner as it can really abuse Serperior's Reflect/Glare support with Minimize and Calm Mind.

Leech Seed should be mentioned in other options.

Otherwise QC 3/3
I've been trying to come up with EV spreads, the only one that still outspeeds Garchomp is 92 HP / 244 Def / 172 Spe. This gives this calc:

252+ Atk Parental Bond Mega Kangaskhan Double-Edge vs. 92 HP / 244 Def Serperior: 137-163 (84.5 - 100.6%) -- 1.2% chance to OHKO

Is this the EV spread we should have on the main set? Or as a mention in set details? The stuff it misses out on outspeeding are pretty negligible, they include Scolipede (pre-speed boost), Lucario, Thundurus, Mega Metagross, Mega Gallade, Gengar (can't really touch it anyway), Espeon, Lati@s, Terrakion and Mega Pinsir...
It also means Download P2 will get a SpA boost.

Tried to talk up Glare a bit in the first set as it is a main move. Didn't do it in the second set though.

Added Zapdos to C&C

Added Clefable to teammates

Added Leech Seed to OO (how'd i miss that??)

Will make it 3/3 after we discuss the EV spread
 
An EV spread I like with Serperior that doesn't sacrifice too much is 252 HP / 20 Def / 236 Spe. It lives a max attack Flare Blitz from Charizard X 100% of the time from full with Reflect up and it still outspeeds base 110s. It's not much of a difference from 252/252 but it's a cool benchmark that's helped me out before.

edit: theres also this spread 116 HP / 220 Def / 172 Spe

252+ Atk Parental Bond Mega Kangaskhan Double-Edge vs. 116 HP / 220 Def Serperior: 139-164 (84.2 - 99.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

and 172 spe also outspeeds chomp, which isnt too bad.

and not only do you get the chance for the one for one with this spread, but when you can get a safe switch and set up reflect, you can actually recover more than what double edge is doing to you

252+ Atk Parental Bond Mega Kangaskhan Double-Edge vs. 116 HP / 220 Def Serperior through Reflect: 69-81 (41.8 - 49%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
 
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Oh thanks NOVED! I knew there would be a balance of HP and Def that granted more physical def (weird that it requires less Def to achieve it), turns out I wasn't too far off. I think that is actually the better spread (116 HP / 220 Def / 176 Spe) for the Solid Snake set. imo there isn't anything notable between Garchomp and max that Serperior should be trying to wall / set up on. The only downside I can see is that Download P2 gets the SpA boost off you and has a 50% chance to OHKO you with +1 Ice Beam. The 252 HP / 0 Def Serp is 2HKO'd by +0 Ice Beam and can 2HKO P2 back if it is already at +2 itself (which you probably would be if P2 is switching into you). So yeah that is the only reason for me not auto-changing the spread to 116 / 220 / 176...

edit: went ahead and changed the defensive EV spread to the one NOVED fixed up and moving onto GP. If someone disagrees with the EV spread I can easily change it. I made a mention of a 140 HP / 192 Def / 176 Spe spread in set details for use with Hidden Power Rock. Playing with the mix of IVs meant that no spread that still outsped Garchomp would also live Adamant M-Kang D-E 100% of the time as you lose a point in speed, requiring 176 EVs to still do it, and either an IV point in HP or def depending on which IV spread you go (both 31/even/30/31/30/30 and 30/even/31/31/30/30 give HP Rock). I personally like the former IV spread and got 140 HP / 192 Def / 176 Spe (level 50 stats: 168 HP / 139 Def. Adamant M-Kang D-E has a 0.8% chance to OHKO). The latter IV spread can go 80 HP / 252 Def / 176 Spe to have a 0.4% chance to be OHKOd but it has less HP and therefore slightly less mixed bulk (level 50 stats: 160 HP / 147 Def). So yeah going with the former for HP Rock for extra HP at the cost of a 0.4% increased chance of dying lol
 
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[OVERVIEW]

No one would have ever thought about using Serperior until the long-awaited release of its Hidden Dream World ability, (comma) Contrary. This ability, when combined with Leaf Storm, gives Serperior a 130 Base Power STAB move with the side effect of a Nasty Plot, allowing it to attack and boost its Special Attack at the same time! This would have turned Serperior into a terrifying special sweeper if it weren't for its middling special movepool, which is limited to Dragon Pulse and Hidden Power for coverage. This has lead to the rise of defensive Serperior being the more popular set as a way to check physical attackers with the combination of Reflect, Synthesis, (AC) and Rocky Helmet, with Leaf Storm tacked on to maintain an offensive presence. Serperior can also make use of several other great support moves including Glare, Taunt, Light Screen, (AC) and Leech Seed.

Serperior is gifted with a great Speed stat, which allows it to outspeed key physical threats such as Garchomp and Mega Kangaskhan, as well as anything slower, which allows him it to quickly set up Reflect before being attacked (RC) or pick off a weakened opponent with Leaf Storm while gaining the Special Attack boost. Being weak to common Pokemon such as Talonflame, Blaziken, Mega Salamence, (AC) and Greninja, as well as being a little frail without Reflect set up and weak before a Leaf Storm boost, (AC) may make it seem as though Serperior would be a poor choice for your team; (SC) however, (AC) as far as Grass-type options go, having access to Contrary and not taking up a Mega slot are huge points in Serperior's favor.

[SET]
name: Solid Snake
move(space)1: Reflect
move(space)2: Synthesis
move(space)3: Leaf Storm
move(space)4: Glare / Hidden Power Rock / Taunt
item: Rocky Helmet
ability: Contrary
nature: Timid
evs: 116 HP / 220 Def / 172 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
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Reflect is used to lessen the damage received from physical attackers such as Garchomp and Mega Kangaskhan, which allows Serperior to take more hits and thus inflict more damage with its Rocky Helmet. Synthesis is important for healing so that Serperior can continue to stall physical attackers. Leaf Storm is Serperior's main source of offense, and it works well in conjunction with Contrary to give it a +2 boost in Special Attack every time it hits the opponent; (SC) this allows Serperior to start doing big damage to the opponent brings Serperior's power to great levels even without Special Attack investment after a couple of boosts. Glare is fantastic for supporting Serperior's teammates, (AC) as the Speed drop can allow for slower Pokemon such as Dragonite, Suicune, Porygon2, (AC) and Mega (presumably) Glalie to outspeed faster opponents, foes (RC) and can provide opportunities to set up or heal when they become fully paralyzed. It is also a great safe option when predicting a switch, as only Electric-type Pokemon are immune to it, and the only notable Electric-type Pokemon that is comfortable switching into Serperior is Zapdos. Hidden Power Rock can be used to hit Pokemon that resist Leaf Storm, (AC) such as Talonflame, Mega Charizard X and Y, Mega Salamence, (AC) and Dragonite, as well as many other Fire- and Flying-types, however but it is quite weak without several boosts. Taunt is an option for shutting down defensive Pokemon such as Chansey, Ferrothorn, Cresselia, (AC) and Sableye.

Set Details
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A Timid nature with 172 Speed EVs allows Serperior to outspeed Garchomp, the fastest, most relevant physical attacker that Serperior should be used to wall, while the remaining EVs are put into HP and defence Defense to allow Serperior to check physical attackers as well as possible. 116 HP and 220 Def Defense EVs give the best balance and allow Serperior to avoid a OHKO from Adamant Mega Kangaskhan's Double-Edge (RC) and take less than 50% from it with Reflect up, meaning you Serperior can stall it with Synthesis. If using Hidden Power Rock, (AC) you'll need to increase the Speed EVs to 176 to still outspeed Garchomp due to requiring a 30 IV in speed the IV drop involved; (subjective but sounds less clunky imo. Also SC) this means makes the most efficient balance of HP and defence becomes Defense 140 HP (31 IV) and 192 Def (30 IV). This does, (AC) however, (AC) give Adamant Mega Kangaskhan a 0.8% very minor chance to OHKO with Double-Edge (add hyphen) due to the drop in defence Defense, but is the most physical defence Serperior can muster with those speed EVs. Rocky Helmet is the best item to use, (AC) as it inflicts chip damage on physical attackers, allowing Serperior to whittle them down into Leaf Storm's KO range.

Usage Tips
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This set aims to check physical attackers and allow Serperior to boost its Special Attack against them while it tanks their moves. Serperior is actually quite frail without Reflect being set up, so it is best to either lead with this Serperior or get it onto the field after a slow Volt Switch or U-turn (RC) or after one of your own Pokemon has been knocked out so that it doesn't have to take unnecessary damage. If you can predict a weaker move such as Kangaskhan's Fake Out or Garchomp's Earthquake, (AC) then Serperior can use those as an opportunity to switch in without taking too much damage. Try to get Reflect set up as soon as possible; (SC) however, (AC) if you predict a switch to a special attacker, (AC) it may not be the best move. Glare is usually the safest option, (AC) as only Electric-type Pokemon are immune to it, and the paralysis support is often more beneficial to Serperior's teammates rather than the increased defense from Reflect Reflect's Defense boost. Once Serperior is comfortably set up behind Reflect against a physical attacker (RC) or the opponent has been weakened enough, it can begin using Leaf Storm to boost its Special Attack and attempt a sweep.

Team Options
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Serperior is a sitting duck against Flying- and Fire-type Pokemon, both of which are a common sight in the Battle Spot Singles metagame and include powerhouses such as Talonflame, Blaziken, Mega Charizard X and Y, (AC) and Mega Salamence, so adequate team support is necessary. Landorus-T is an excellent choice due to it being able its ability to offer defensive support with Intimidate, is able to get Serperior onto the field safely with U-turn, and is able to take on these aforementioned Pokemon. Mega Manectric, while being much frailer, is an example of a Pokemon with Intimidate and access to a pivoting move in Volt Switch. Suicune pairs well, (AC) as it forms a strong physically defensive core with Serperior, as well as and is capable of taking Ice-type attacks from Pokemon such as Greninja lacking Grass Knot, Weavile, (AC) and Mamoswine. Mega Charizard X and Y both are handy partners for Serperior, (AC) as they are able to take on Steel-types such as Aegislash, Mega Mawile, Scizor, Ferrothorn, Mega Metagross, (AC) and Heatran. Mega Charizard Y also provides sun support with its ability Drought, (AC) which increases the amount of HP Serperior receives from Synthesis. Porygon2 is a decent partner for being able its ability to check Pokemon such as Greninja, Talonflame, (AC) and Mega Salamence. It also appreciates the support that Reflect and Glare provide. Clefable greatly appreciates the support from Reflect and Glare too, (AC) as it allows it to set up Calm Mind and Minimize more easily against physical attackers.

[SET]
name: Offensive Leaf Storm
move(space)1: Leaf Storm
move(space)2: Hidden Power Fire / Hidden Power Ground
move(space)3: Dragon Pulse
move(space)4: Glare / Taunt
item: Focus Sash / Life Orb / Lum Berry
ability: Contrary
nature: Timid
evs: 248 SpA / 12 SpD / 248 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
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Leaf Storm, in combination with Contrary, is the only reason to use this set, and it is the main move that you will be selecting in battle. Hidden Power and Dragon Pulse are chosen as a means of hitting the Steel- and Dragon-type Pokemon who that resist Leaf Storm. Hidden Power Fire is the preferred type, (AC) as it hits Ferrothorn and Scizor for 4x super effective damage, as well as and hits Skarmory super effectively. Ground can be used instead to hit Heatran hard. Dragon Pulse hits Mega Salamence, Mega Charizard X and Y, Dragonite, Latios, Latias, Hydreigon, (AC) and Mega Sceptile, however but Leaf Storm is more powerful against Garchomp thanks to because of (kinda subjective but 'thanks to' has a positive connotation and therefore isn't all that appropriate here) his its secondary Ground typing. Glare is the preferred option in the last slot for being able its ability to paralyze anything that isn't an Electric-type, however but Taunt can be used to stop Pokemon such as Chansey and Cresselia from using their many status moves. Hidden Power Rock can be used as a way to surprise Talonflame and Mega Charizard Y switch-ins, (AC, add hyphen) but doing so leaves you Serperior walled by Steel-types.

Set Details
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Since Because Hidden Power Fire requires an even IV in both Special Attack and Speed, 248 EVs in both these stats is the most efficient amount number at level 50. The leftover 12 EVs are put into Special Defense to give Download Porygon2 an Attack boost. If using Hidden Power Ground, an EV spread of 248 SpA / 8 SpD / 252 Spe should be used. Timid is used to get the jump on fast Pokemon such as Garchomp, Mega Lucario, Latios, Latias, Mega Kangaskhan, and everything else in the crowded base 100 Speed tier. Focus Sash is used since because Serperior is actually quite frail and is prone to being OHKO'd OHKOed by stronger attacks. A Life Orb can be used instead to give Serperior a much-needed boost to its attacks. A Lum Berry is also an option to protect against Thunder Waves and Swaggers, (AC) which are quite common in the metagame.

Usage Tips
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Focus Sash Serperior does not want to switch into attacks, (AC) as it this breaks the Sash, rendering it useless, unless you have Wish support. Therefore it is best to either lead with Serperior (RC) or bring it in as a revenge killer. Life Orb and Lum Berry Serperior can switch more freely; (SC) however, (AC) it is still unadvised due to his Serperior's frailty. Try to make use take advantage of Water-type Pokemon such as Azumarill, Suicune, (AC) and Rotom-W to use Leaf Storm against to start gaining boosts with Leaf Storm, or against start boosting by finishing off slower opponents foes such as Garchomp, Landorus-T, Gliscor, (AC) and Gyarados who that have been weakened to within Leaf Storm's KO range so that you can finish them off before they attack while also receiving the special attack boost. Serperior's coverage moves are quite weak before boosting, so even if you can hit something super effectively (remove hyphen) with them it is advised to first try and to boost first so that they can do more respectable damage. If you predict a switch, Glare is a great option, (AC) as often boosting against a switch-in (add hyphen) is wasted by Serperior needing to switch out, whereas paralysis support lasts the whole match.

Team Options
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As mentioned previously, Serperior is actually quite frail and falls victim to bulkier Pokemon that it cannot KO, therefore so it needs strong defensive support to succeed. Intimidate users such as Landorus-T, Mega Salamence, (AC) and Gyarados are great for being able their ability to beat Serperior's Fire-type checks, whereas the Defense drop granted by Intimidate can also help Serperior take some physical attacks itself. Bulky Water-types such as Suicune, Rotom-W, (AC) and Mega Slowbro are fantastic for taking on strong physical attackers such as Talonflame and Mega Kangaskhan and help create two-thirds of a Fire / Water / Grass (dashes to slashes) core. Mega Charizard X or Y can be used to take on the many Steel-types that wall Serperior, (AC) such as Aegislash. Mega Charizard Y also provides sun support, (AC) which increases the power of Serperior's Hidden Power Fire, they also while they both appreciate having opposing Water- and Rock-types dealt with by Serperior. Porygon2 can help check Greninja, Talonflame, (AC) and Mega Salamence. Garchomp can be used to dispatch Fire- and Steel-types and also enjoys having Serperior to deal with bulky Water-types. Slow Volt Switch and U-turn users can be used to help get Serperior onto the field safely; (SC) these include Rotom-W, Scizor, (AC) and defensive Landorus-T.


[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
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Giga Drain can be used on the all-out (add hyphen) attacker set as a way to recover health, but it is weak without Special Attack boosts and severely outclassed by Leaf Storm as a way to deal damage. Light Screen is an option for patching Serperior's Special Defense on the Solid Snake set, however but Serperior generally prefers Glare's support or Hidden Power Rock's coverage. Knock Off can be used to cripple item-reliant Pokemon, however but the Solid Snake set isn't phased by many items and the all-out (add hyphen) attacker would rather be trying to boost or KO the opponent. Mirror Coat can be used alongside a Focus Sash as a way to surprise special attackers. Mean Look can be used to trap Pokemon that Serperior can set up one on, however it means giving but it requires Serperior to give up valuable coverage or Glare. Swagger can be used in conjunction with Glare to form a ParaFusion parafusion set, however but it's better done by Pokemon such as Klefki and Liepard, (AC) who which have access to Prankster. Hidden Power Ice can be used over Dragon Pulse as a way to still hit Dragon-type Pokemon, but especially Salamence and Dragonite, as well as Garchomp and Landorus-T; (add hyphen, SC) however, (AC) it means losing Fire- or Ground-type coverage, (AC) which leaves Serperior walled by Steel-types. Leech Seed is an option on the Solid Snake set as a way to passively recover health while also help whittle whittling down the health of the opponent foe; (SC) however, (AC) Synthesis usually provides enough recovery, (AC) and Glare is overall more valuable in the last slot. A Choice Scarf or Choice Specs can be used to spam Leaf Storm more quickly or more powerfully, (AC) respectively; (SC) however, (AC) being locked into Leaf Storm will leave you Serperior walled by anything that resists Grass, and Serperior's coverage moves are quite weak when it can't make use of its boosts from Leaf Storm.

Checks & and Counters
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**Talonflame**: Talonflame ignores Serperior's Speed with priority Brave Bird and OHKO's OHKOes it unless you have Reflect is up. It also 4x resists Leaf Storm, (AC) but it has to watch out for Hidden Power Rock. (add period)

**Greninja**: Greninja is naturally faster than Serperior and can OHKO it with Ice Beam. It can't switch into a Leaf Storm, (AC) though, b(AC) and has to watch out for Glare.

**Mega Salamence**: Mega Salamence is naturally faster than Serperior and can it KO with an Aerilate-boosted Return or Double-Edge. It can also use Serperior as set up setup fodder for Dragon Dance as it 4x resists Leaf Storm. due to its 4x resistance to Leaf Storm, but it has to watch out for a boosted Dragon Pulse though.

**Gengar**: Gengar resists Leaf Storm due to its Poison (remove hyphen) typing and can KO Serperior with Sludge Bomb. Mega Gengar is even bigger trouble since because it outspeeds Serperior and traps it with Shadow Tag.

**Fire-types**: Mega Charixard Charizard X and Y, Blaziken, Heatran, Rotom-H, Volcarona, (AC) and Chandelure all resist Leaf Storm and can KO Serperior with their Fire-STAB Fire-type STAB moves. Serperior can carry either (this implies that it can't carry other types) Hidden Power Rock or Ground, (AC) however, (AC) so they have to watch out for that.

**Steel-types**: Aegislash, Mawile, Ferrothorn, Scizor, Skarmory and Klefki all resist Leaf Storm and are usually bulky enough to outlast Serperior. They need to watch out for a super effective Hidden Power, (AC) though, especially Ferrothorn and Scizor, (AC) as they are 4x weak to Hidden Power Fire, Serperior's preferred type.

**Fast Electric-types**: Raikou, Mega Manectric, Jolteon and Choice Scarf Thundurus-T are immune to Glare by virtue of their typing, outspeed Serp Serperior, (AC) and can 2HKO it with Hidden Power Ice (or, (AC) in Mega Manectric's case, (AC) Flamethrower in Manectric's case). Thundurus-I Thundurus can also paralyse you paralyze Serperior with Prankster Thunder Wave. (period)

**Zapdos**: Zapdos is not only is (parallelism) immune to Glare due to its Electric typing, but it also resists Leaf Storm and can stall out its PP with Roost and its ability, (comma) Pressure.

**Porygon2**: While it can't tank boosted Leaf Storms, Download Porygon2 can come in against the Solid Snake set and receive a Special Attack boost, (AC) and after which it stands a good chance to OHKO Serperior with Ice Beam.

**Cresselia and Chansey**: If Serperior lacks Taunt, (AC) then these Cresselia and Chansey are solid counters to Serperior and can stall it out with their recovery and status moves.



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[OVERVIEW]

No one would have ever thought about using Serperior until the long-awaited release of its Dream World ability, Contrary. This ability, when combined with Leaf Storm, gives Serperior a 130 Base Power STAB move with the side effect of a Nasty Plot, allowing it to attack and boost its Special Attack at the same time! This would have turned Serperior into a terrifying special sweeper if it weren't for its middling special movepool, which is limited to Dragon Pulse and Hidden Power for coverage. This has lead led to the rise of defensive Serperior being the more popular set as a way to check physical attackers with the combination of Reflect, Synthesis, and Rocky Helmet, with Leaf Storm tacked on to maintain an offensive presence. Serperior can also make use of several other great support moves including Glare, Taunt, Light Screen, and Leech Seed.

Serperior is gifted with a great Speed stat, which allows it to outspeed key physical threats such as Garchomp and Mega Kangaskhan, as well as anything slower, which allows it; it is thus able (eh, I don't love this change, but the double "which allows it to" was odd and this was the quickest fix I could think of) to quickly set up Reflect before being attacked or pick off a weakened opponent foe with Leaf Storm while gaining the Special Attack boost. Being weak to common Pokemon such as Talonflame, Blaziken, Mega Salamence, and Greninja, as well as being a little frail without Reflect set up and weak before a Leaf Storm boost, may might make it seem as though Serperior would be a poor choice for your team; however, as far as Grass-type options go, having access to Contrary and not taking up a Mega slot are huge points in Serperior's favor.

[SET]
name: Solid Snake
move 1: Reflect
move 2: Synthesis
move 3: Leaf Storm
move 4: Glare / Hidden Power Rock / Taunt
item: Rocky Helmet
ability: Contrary
nature: Timid
evs: 116 HP / 220 Def / 172 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
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Reflect is used to lessen the damage received from physical attackers such as Garchomp and Mega Kangaskhan, which allows Serperior to take more hits and thus inflict more damage with its Rocky Helmet. Synthesis is important for healing so that Serperior can continue to stall physical attackers. Leaf Storm is Serperior's main source of offense, and it works well in conjunction with Contrary to give it a +2 boost in Special Attack every time it hits the foe opponent; this brings Serperior's power to great levels even without Special Attack investment after a couple of boosts. Glare is fantastic for supporting Serperior's teammates, as the Speed drop can allow slower Pokemon such as Dragonite, Suicune, Porygon2, and Glalie to outspeed faster foes and can provide opportunities to set up or heal when they become fully paralyzed. It is also a great safe option when predicting a switch, as only Electric-type Pokemon are immune to it, and the only notable Electric-type Pokemon that is comfortable switching into Serperior is Zapdos. Hidden Power Rock can be used to hit Pokemon that resist Leaf Storm, such as Talonflame, Mega Charizard X and Y, Mega Salamence, and Dragonite, as well as many other Fire- and Flying-types, but it is quite weak without several boosts. Taunt is an option for shutting down defensive Pokemon such as Chansey, Ferrothorn, Cresselia, and Sableye.

Set Details
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A Timid nature with 172 Speed EVs allows Serperior to outspeed Garchomp, the fastest, most relevant physical attacker that Serperior should be used to wall, while the remaining EVs are put into HP and Defense to allow Serperior to check physical attackers as well as possible. 116 HP and 220 Defense EVs give the best balance and allow Serperior to avoid a OHKO from Adamant Mega Kangaskhan's Double-Edge and take less than 50% from it with Reflect up, meaning Serperior can stall it with Synthesis. If using Hidden Power Rock, you'll need to increase the Speed EVs to 176 to still outspeed Garchomp due to the IV drop involved; this makes the most efficient balance of HP and Defense 140 HP (31 IV) and 192 Def (30 IV). This does, however, give Adamant Mega Kangaskhan a very minor chance to OHKO with Double-Edge due to the drop in Defense. Rocky Helmet is the best item to use, as it inflicts chip damage on physical attackers, allowing Serperior to whittle them down into Leaf Storm's KO range.

Usage Tips
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This set aims to check physical attackers and allow Serperior to boost its Special Attack against them while it tanks their moves. Serperior is actually quite frail without Reflect being set up, so it is best to either lead with this Serperior or get it onto the field after a slow Volt Switch or U-turn or after one of your own Pokemon has been knocked out so that it doesn't have to take unnecessary damage. If you can predict a weaker move such as Kangaskhan's Fake Out or Garchomp's Earthquake, Serperior can use those as an opportunity to switch in without taking too much damage. Try to get Reflect set up as soon as possible; however, if you predict a switch to a special attacker, it may might not be the best move. Glare is usually the safest option, as only Electric-type Pokemon are immune to it, and the paralysis support is often more beneficial to Serperior's teammates rather than Reflect's Defense boost. Once Serperior is comfortably behind Reflect against a physical attacker or the opponent foe has been weakened enough, it can begin using Leaf Storm to boost its Special Attack and attempt a sweep.

Team Options
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Serperior is a sitting duck against Flying- and Fire-type Pokemon, both of which are a common sight in the Battle Spot Singles metagame and include powerhouses such as Mega Salamence, Talonflame, Blaziken, Mega Charizard X and Y, and Blaziken, Mega Salamence, (kinda silly but it matches up with "Flying- and Fire-type", which is nice) so adequate team support is necessary. Landorus-T is an excellent choice due to its ability to offer defensive support with Intimidate, get Serperior onto the field safely with U-turn, and take on these Pokemon. Mega Manectric, while being much frailer, is an example of a Pokemon with Intimidate and access to a pivoting move in Volt Switch. Suicune pairs well, as it forms a strong physically defensive core with Serperior and is capable of taking Ice-type attacks from Pokemon such as Greninja lacking Grass Knot, Weavile, and Mamoswine. Mega Charizard X and Y both are handy partners for Serperior, as they are able to take on Steel-types such as Aegislash, Mega Mawile, Scizor, Ferrothorn, Mega Metagross, and Heatran. Mega Charizard Y also provides sun support with its ability Drought, which increases the amount of HP Serperior receives from Synthesis. Porygon2 is a decent partner for its ability to check Pokemon such as Greninja, Talonflame, and Mega Salamence. It also appreciates the support that Reflect and Glare provide. Clefable greatly appreciates the support from Reflect and Glare too, as it allows it to set up Calm Mind and Minimize more easily against physical attackers.

[SET]
name: Offensive Leaf Storm
move 1: Leaf Storm
move 2: Hidden Power Fire / Hidden Power Ground
move 3: Dragon Pulse
move 4: Glare / Taunt
item: Focus Sash / Life Orb / Lum Berry
ability: Contrary
nature: Timid
evs: 248 SpA / 12 SpD / 248 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Moves
========

Leaf Storm, in combination with Contrary, is the only reason to use this set, and it is the main move that you will be selecting in battle. Hidden Power and Dragon Pulse are chosen as a means of hitting the Steel- and Dragon-type Pokemon that resist Leaf Storm. Fire is the preferred type, as it hits Ferrothorn and Scizor for 4x super effective damage and hits Skarmory super effectively. Ground can be used instead to hit Heatran hard. Dragon Pulse hits Mega Salamence, Mega Charizard X and Y, Dragonite, Latios, Latias, Hydreigon, and Mega Sceptile, but Leaf Storm is more powerful against Garchomp because of its secondary Ground typing. Glare is the preferred option in the last slot for its ability to paralyze anything that isn't an Electric-type, but Taunt can be used to stop Pokemon such as Chansey and Cresselia from using their many status moves. Hidden Power Rock can be used as a way to surprise Talonflame and Mega Charizard Y switch-ins, but doing so leaves Serperior walled by Steel-types.

Set Details
========

Because Hidden Power Fire requires an even IV in both Special Attack and Speed, 248 EVs in these stats is the most efficient number at level 50. The leftover 12 EVs are put into Special Defense to give Download Porygon2 an Attack boost. If using Hidden Power Ground, an EV spread of 248 SpA / 8 SpD / 252 Spe should be used. Timid is used to get the jump on fast Pokemon such as Garchomp, Mega Lucario, Latios, Latias, Mega Kangaskhan, and everything else in the crowded base 100 Speed tier. Focus Sash is used because Serperior is actually quite frail and is prone to being OHKOed by stronger attacks. A Life Orb can be used instead to give Serperior a much-needed boost to its attacks. A Lum Berry is also an option to protect against Thunder Waves and Swaggers, which are quite common in the metagame.

Usage Tips
========

Focus Sash Serperior does not want to switch into attacks, as this breaks the Focus Sash, rendering it useless. Therefore, (comma) it is best to either lead with Serperior or bring it in as a revenge killer. Life Orb and Lum Berry Serperior can switch more freely; however, it is still unadvised due to Serperior's frailty. Try to take advantage of Water-type Pokemon such as Azumarill, Suicune, and Rotom-W to start gaining boosts with Leaf Storm, or start boosting by finishing off slower foes such as Garchomp, Landorus-T, Gliscor, and Gyarados that have been weakened to within Leaf Storm's KO range. Serperior's coverage moves are quite weak before boosting, so even if you can hit something super effectively with them it is advised to try to boost first so that they can do more respectable damage. If you predict a switch, Glare is a great option, as often boosting against a switch-in is wasted by Serperior needing to switch out, whereas paralysis lasts the whole match.

Team Options
========

As mentioned previously, Serperior is actually quite frail and falls victim to bulkier Pokemon that it cannot KO, so it needs strong defensive support to succeed. Intimidate users such as Landorus-T, Mega Salamence, and Gyarados are great for their ability to beat Serperior's Fire-type checks, whereas the Defense drop granted by Intimidate can also help Serperior take some physical attacks itself. Bulky Water-types such as Suicune, Rotom-W, and Mega Slowbro are fantastic for taking on strong physical attackers such as Talonflame and Mega Kangaskhan and help create two-thirds of a Fire / Water / Grass core. Mega Charizard X or Y can be used to take on the many Steel-types that wall Serperior, such as Aegislash. Mega Charizard Y also provides sun support, which increases the power of Serperior's Hidden Power Fire, while they both Mega formes appreciate having opposing Water- and Rock-types dealt with by Serperior. Porygon2 can help check Greninja, Talonflame, and Mega Salamence. Garchomp can be used to dispatch Fire- and Steel-types and also enjoys having Serperior to deal with bulky Water-types. Slow Volt Switch and U-turn users can be used to help get Serperior onto the field safely; these include Rotom-W, Scizor, and defensive Landorus-T.


[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

Giga Drain can be used on the all-out attacker set as a way to recover health, but it is weak without Special Attack boosts and severely outclassed by Leaf Storm as a way to deal damage. Light Screen is an option for patching Serperior's Special Defense on the Solid Snake set, but Serperior generally prefers Glare's support or Hidden Power Rock's coverage. Knock Off can be used to cripple item-reliant Pokemon, but the Solid Snake set isn't phased fazed by many items and the all-out attacker would rather be trying to boost or KO the foe opponent. Mirror Coat can be used alongside a Focus Sash as a way to surprise special attackers. Mean Look can be used to trap Pokemon that Serperior can set up on, but it requires Serperior to give up valuable coverage or Glare. Swagger can be used in conjunction with Glare to form a parafusion set, but it's better done by Pokemon such as Klefki and Liepard, which have access to Prankster. Hidden Power Ice can be used over Dragon Pulse as a way to still hit Dragon-type Pokemon, but especially Salamence and Dragonite, as well as Garchomp and Landorus-T; however, it means losing Fire- or Ground-type coverage, which leaves Serperior walled by Steel-types. Leech Seed is an option on the Solid Snake set as a way to passively recover health while also whittling down the health of the foe; however, Synthesis usually provides enough recovery, and Glare is overall more valuable in the last slot. A Choice Scarf or Choice Specs can be used to spam Leaf Storm more quickly or more powerfully, respectively; however, being locked into Leaf Storm will leave Serperior walled by anything that resists Grass, and Serperior's coverage moves are quite weak when it can't make use of its boosts from Leaf Storm.

Checks and Counters
===================

**Talonflame**: Talonflame ignores Serperior's Speed with priority Brave Bird and OHKOes it unless Reflect is up. It also 4x resists Leaf Storm, but it has to watch out for Hidden Power Rock.

**Greninja**: Greninja is naturally faster than Serperior and can OHKO it with Ice Beam. It can't switch into a Leaf Storm, though, and has to watch out for Glare.

**Mega Salamence**: Mega Salamence is naturally faster than Serperior and can KO it with an Aerilate-boosted Return or Double-Edge. It can also use Serperior as setup fodder for Dragon Dance due to its 4x resistance to Leaf Storm, but it has to watch out for a boosted Dragon Pulse.

**Gengar**: Gengar resists Leaf Storm due to its Poison typing and can KO Serperior with Sludge Bomb. Mega Gengar is even bigger trouble because it outspeeds Serperior and traps it with Shadow Tag.

**Fire-types**: Mega Charizard X and Y, Blaziken, Heatran, Rotom-H, Volcarona, and Chandelure all resist Leaf Storm and can KO Serperior with their Fire-type STAB moves. Serperior can carry Hidden Power Rock or Ground, however, so they have to watch out for that.

**Steel-types**: Aegislash, Mawile, Ferrothorn, Scizor, Skarmory and Klefki all resist Leaf Storm and are usually bulky enough to outlast Serperior. They need to watch out for a super effective Hidden Power, though, especially Ferrothorn and Scizor, as they are 4x weak to Hidden Power Fire, Serperior's preferred type.

**Fast Electric-types**: Raikou, Mega Manectric, Jolteon, (comma) and Choice Scarf Thundurus-T are immune to Glare by virtue of their typing, outspeed Serperior, and can 2HKO it with Hidden Power Ice or, in Mega Manectric's case, Flamethrower. Thundurus can also paralyze Serperior with Prankster Thunder Wave.

**Zapdos**: Zapdos not only is immune to Glare due to its Electric typing, but it also resists Leaf Storm and can stall out its PP with Roost and its ability, (remove comma) Pressure.

**Porygon2**: While it can't tank boosted Leaf Storms, Download Porygon2 can come in against the Solid Snake set and receive a Special Attack boost, after which it stands a good chance to OHKO Serperior with Ice Beam.

**Cresselia and Chansey**: If Serperior lacks Taunt, Cresselia and Chansey are solid counters to Serperior and can stall it out with their recovery and status moves.
 
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Thanks for the check fren P Squared n_n

On the subjective changes, instead of this:

Serperior is gifted with a great Speed stat, which allows it to outspeed key physical threats such as Garchomp and Mega Kangaskhan, as well as anything slower; it is thus able to quickly set up Reflect before being attacked or pick off a weakened foe with Leaf Storm while gaining the Special Attack boost.
Could I instead do:

...as well as anything slower, meaning it can quickly set up Reflect...
I mean, your change is fine, I just dunno if I have the swagger to pull of "thus" and I feel like it rolls off the tongue a bit better without it haha

Oh, and should I really remove the comma in the Zapdos section of C&Cs? I mean you're the GP guy but reading it as "...can stall out its PP with Roost and its ability Pressure." seems a little weird to me, like it needs to be broken up. TDP added it there in his check, I actually think the comma should be a semicolon but yeah you guys are the experts, lol.

Will implement everything else later when I can access a PC :)
 

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yeah your change is fine too :]

hmm, I removed the Zapdos comma because iirc it also gets Static, and "its ability, Pressure" and "its ability Pressure" have slightly different meanings (like "my uncle Bob" vs "my uncle, Bob"). thoughts, The Dutch Plumberjack ?
 

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yeah your change is fine too :]

hmm, I removed the Zapdos comma because iirc it also gets Static, and "its ability, Pressure" and "its ability Pressure" have slightly different meanings (like "my uncle Bob" vs "my uncle, Bob"). thoughts, The Dutch Plumberjack ?
Yeah but Static hasn't been released, so technically Pressure is the only ability it has.
 

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