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Pokemon Sun and Moon Demo Datamine + Full Game Leaks Collection (Read the OP)
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With all of this Z move talk, I've been looking at the Alola regional dex to get ideas for stuff I want to test out in VGC17 and I think Archeops will actually have a pretty strong niche in this meta as a premier Z move abuser. Yes, I know that you can't get acrobatics boost with a Z move, but what I know about them is that they are based on a move's BP and Archeops gets both the 150BP Head Smash AND 140BP Sky Attack to use with its STAB. And it has 140 base attack which is the second highest unboosted attack in the Alolan regional dex (first is Rampardos, which isn't gonna be viable for obvious reasons). The best part is Archeops has traditionally always suffered because all of its high power moves had major drawbacks (recoil on a pokemon that can ill afford it or a two turn charge up necessitating a power herb). Z moves will both buff the move AND let you ignore these downsides for its first use (assuming that Z moves will let you use two turn moves the same as one turn moves).
At 110 base speed, Archeops isn't exactly a lightning bolt, but it also gets a support movepool which includes quick guard, tailwind, taunt and roost which depending on what you want to do with it will make it great for speed control after it blows its load (or before) or give it a much longer useful lifespan. It has a solid STAB split attack in Rock Slide as well. Since Z-crystals are type exclusive, you'd run either Head Smash or Sky attack depending on which one you wanted to use, then 2 support moves (or 1+protect) and then probably rock slide.
Since Z-moves are kind of a one shot thing anyways, Defeatist doesn't really bother Archeops as much as it does in current metas. Once he's blown his load, if he's still alive you can drop a tailwind, taunt something, or drop a support rock slide for the flinch chance. I don't think it's competing for 'king of the meta' status but it's nice to see that after getting a humiliatingly bad 3d model something's finally looking up for the derpy bird.
At 110 base speed, Archeops isn't exactly a lightning bolt, but it also gets a support movepool which includes quick guard, tailwind, taunt and roost which depending on what you want to do with it will make it great for speed control after it blows its load (or before) or give it a much longer useful lifespan. It has a solid STAB split attack in Rock Slide as well. Since Z-crystals are type exclusive, you'd run either Head Smash or Sky attack depending on which one you wanted to use, then 2 support moves (or 1+protect) and then probably rock slide.
Since Z-moves are kind of a one shot thing anyways, Defeatist doesn't really bother Archeops as much as it does in current metas. Once he's blown his load, if he's still alive you can drop a tailwind, taunt something, or drop a support rock slide for the flinch chance. I don't think it's competing for 'king of the meta' status but it's nice to see that after getting a humiliatingly bad 3d model something's finally looking up for the derpy bird.
We know that, during the NicoNico stream, that the Eevee used knew Baton Pass and could use Extreme Evoboost, so my working theory is that Status Z-Moves can only be made for Status Moves, while damaging Z-Moves can only be made from damaging Moves.
Well, not the only perk. That buff they give is the main reason they were used in VGC, not them being consumable.
Well, specs for T-Wave are in the demo, it would seem.
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I believe you have a hairdresser and a clothes shop in the first town, so they may want you to be able to fully enjoy customization since the very beginning.
So we know that Z-moves BP is based on the move being Z-Moved on but what about with the Pokemon exclusive Z-Stones? can you pick any move for them or do they have a type you need to pick? (Like you have to choose a Electric Move for Pikachus, and a Normal move for Snorlax's pancake attack). Then I also wonder if there will be any difference on what move you use your Z-move on with Eevee's Evoboost, I assume there will be 0 difference but who knows.
Pulverizing Pancake requires Giga Impact
Castropika & Estreme Evoboost may also require a specific move, but they haven't been specified
Mostly the Flying Gem. Dragon Gem Draco Meteor or Water Gem Hydro Pump wouldn't care too much if getting the boost meant freeing up the item slot.
I would be willing to bet money that if Catastropika requires a specific move to use it, it will be Volt Tackle.
I'd probably guess Helping Hand or Baton Pass for Eevee's. Probably Baton Pass.
Helping Hand makes the most sense, since Eevee gets.. help.. from the others.
I would agree if i didn't think that Evo boost was Specifically for Baton Passing afterwards.
If z crystals work like megastones, they will be used in OU on stuff like Keldeo Heatran Clefable Skarmory... You switch on knock off all the time anyway, it only has 65 BP and you can still (ab)use your item.
That's something gems couldn't do (and didn't need to, to be fair)
That's something gems couldn't do (and didn't need to, to be fair)
Like if the anime cared about the games lol
...but I aimed for the horn!
But they have a good chance for once lol
Are we sure that trident like symbol is Aether?
This also tells us that Ultra Beasts get a totem effect when they appear.
I really like the background at 3:42 with the rainbow black hole. Presumably for the champion.
Well, you do battle Rood in BW2 even though he had turned good by then. (Not counting N as he is a bonus boss)
I can only assume some of this is down to camera angles being off; while some of the outfits for NPCs this generation have been a little more risqué than we're used to, I doubt Game Freak want to start off too many battles with us looking at Kukui's crotch.
On the other hand, his abs apparently glitter, so who knows what's going on there.
Well, at 2:08 we see the intro animations for the Kahunas, and the 3rd and 4th ones are dark gray/black and brownish orange. Based on the caharacters we've seen so far, I think the woman we saw in the demo trailer (who I have dubbed Mary Mudsdale) may be the final Kahuna, as the color matches how ground is often depicted, and the handkerchief she wears on her head is the same purple as the flowers on the final island as well as Sansu OPricorio and Tapu Sushi.
I'm not sure what the dark gray points to, though.
Flying-type, perhaps? Sea Man on Boat had a Pelliper, so could be Flying-type.
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