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Got outplayed/was messy in G1, won the set in 2. ggs and wp, sorry bout the first https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen8ou-763781 https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen8ou-763782

thanks everyone: https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/sv-ou-suspect-process-round-12-voting.3742100/#post-10090553 Vixyon Carkoala poobadooba Kadiro Delibird Heart Soul king0 tanky COALLA Vert RPGKing2000 Riccio Professor Suicune Ishtar0607 Stareal Joya Srn Dhrabb Baddy Ehmcee tier Sylveon...

do you have any way to prove you actually were at 80 gxe and it was maybe a rounding issue? or did you just post at 79.9

Voting on Volcarona. List of qualified voters (163): Vixyon Carkoala poobadooba Kadiro Delibird Heart Soul king0 tanky COALLA Vert RPGKing2000 Riccio Professor Suicune Ishtar0607 Stareal Joya Srn Dhrabb Baddy Ehmcee tier Sylveon used calm mind Achimoo Micciu Twixtry Skyrio bbeeaa Finchinator...

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I think a lot of people are underestimating how Volcarona continues to evolve with the metagame. Volcarona’s set mix some months ago is different than it is now and it will continue to evolve, spiraling to unreasonable lengths and adversely impacting our metagame. Tbh I’ve been toying with...

To be clear, I view your entire post as "overly semantic" and it is sad that this type of discourse cannot be divorced from regular metagam banter. Your underlying point about "central threats" is right to the mere definition, but not everything needs to be a fight just to make any given point...

Yea, this is why I avoid posting fun things like this in metagame discussion (which is funny considering half the posts here are shitposts/funny posts, and they tend to go by without any issue). People always take it as some larger tiering statement, despite precursors saying it is not, because...

Nothing is being redefined. I implore you to read my posts rather than just take in the graph. Really the only damning correlation would be in the back-half of the broken quadrants, and even then it is much harder to make an argument on stuff like Pult/Gamb/Zama right now. And my opinions on...

Hatterene is an annoying motherfucker with the CM set, but oftentimes feels more idealistic than actually capable of sweeping. It can encounter an untimely Ruination from Lu or SD from Gliscor rather than Spikes a ton, for example. I find it best with Grassy Seed on terrain teams lowkey, but...

Overall, I totally see why from afar something being "healthy" and "broken" would clash, RS25802580 -- I just think informal plotting charts like these are not exactly tiering declarations so much as they are just clarifying where things stand in relation to each other and metagame norms. Maybe...

I mean it at very least partially answered it -- you should not be assigning actual tiering weight to health. With this in mind: Every tier needs some degree of centralization to have identity -- look at every past OU...you have things like Latios in BW or Magearna in SM or Weavile/Dragapult...

Did you read the text in the post or just take a look at the graph? " Terms like "unhealthy" are far less formal and more "vibes" based than anything else "

Specs Kyurem, among the other sets, is very good. It needs support, but look at the amount of damage it does on average. And there are multiple good teams with it. Arguing it’s not good is really a non-starter in serious discussions. It’s one of the better sets one of the most threatening Pokemon.