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    Announcement Ubers tiering: going forward

    OU has usually always been against mons that could put a lot of offensive pressure against teams. So if someone wanted to play a meta around that concept, ubers would be the best tier to do so as it is the least restrictive. So I fear by tiering ubers in the same as others, this sort of play...
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    Announcement Ubers tiering: going forward

    While I am happy that the uber tiers is being consistent with the rest of the tier and not just a ban list, I do have some issues I'd like to point out. One is I'm afraid that ubers tier would become a bit too defensive. I'm also curios if certain mons will be banned from lower tiers because of...
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    Metagame USUM Memetagame Discussion was a mistake

    The problem here is that mostly everyone caters to a specific playing style that any attempts at a counter-argument will be seen as invalid by most players. Everyone likes to have hard counters/checks that no one considers trying playing differently. Relying more on soft checks and revenge...
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    Announcement np: SM OU Suspect Process, Round 5 - I Can't Escape Myself (ARENA TRAP BANNED)

    I'm not really arguing a complex ban as I know how smogon feels about it. I'm just trying to say that people need to be careful when they start arguing that weak mons are better than they actually are in order to justify a suspect ban. Also, your example of a kyogre complex ban is way to...
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    Announcement np: SM OU Suspect Process, Round 5 - I Can't Escape Myself (ARENA TRAP BANNED)

    It's the combination of Dugtrio and arena trap that's really the issue here. Trapinch plus Diglett are either too slow or too weak to be consistently effective in trapping ou threats. What is Trapinch going to trap with base 10 speed and 45/45/45 defenses? Diglett is a bit more effective but...
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    Announcement np: SM OU Suspect Process, Round 4 - The Robots - Metagrossite BANNED

    It's not so much of the process, but more of a banning mindset that some people have that I don't really agree with. I'm more flexible than most other people when it comes down to what is broken, uncompetitive or unhealthy.
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    Announcement np: SM OU Suspect Process, Round 4 - The Robots - Metagrossite BANNED

    I'm not sure what dugtrio has to do with that I said. I'm not saying ONLY anti-ban arguments are weak in fact I was stating the opposite. The guy I quoted was saying anti-ban arguments were weak, while I was replying that the other side of the argument also had flaws. Arguments 4,5,6 are...
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    Announcement np: SM OU Suspect Process, Round 4 - The Robots - Metagrossite BANNED

    While I do agree with most of what you said here the anti-ban arguments are the only ones that have flaws. Any arguments that usually apply towards anti-ban arguments no longer apply anymore. Having checks and counters no longer matter, being frail or to slow no longer matters, whittling down no...
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    Announcement np: SM OU Suspect Process, Round 4 - The Robots - Metagrossite BANNED

    You see, I don't understand what kind of meta you want. Most of the whittle down and checks/counters and other various strategies are the ways to win games, it's part of the way we play. It seems like you are against any pokemon that can put some sort of offensive pressure or is hard, but not...
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    Announcement np: SM OU Suspect Process, Round 4 - The Robots - Metagrossite BANNED

    You are wrongfully equating counterplay here to meaning having counters which shouldn't be what suspects aim to do. As for metagross itself, I think it's quite powerful but not ban worthy. The Terrain's do make metagross powerful, however terrains are temporary and can always be changed by...
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    Announcement np: SM OU Suspect Process, Round 3 - Beauty and the Boost - Pheromosa is now banned

    Yeah, why is checking threats that pressure teams such a bad thing? Great is only as good as the pokemon it competes with. I'm sure Darmanintan would be great if you got rid of all the pokemon that holds it back. I use the terms should and I don't think because it's an opinion. Way's to...
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    Announcement np: SM OU Suspect Process, Round 3 - Beauty and the Boost - Pheromosa is now banned

    It's very dangerous to state that something is more "healthier" as fact when that is a very subjective term. Honestly in my opinion a meta without Pheromosa is more simple and straightfoward than a meta without phero. So is the whole lower tiers in respect to OU. If some pokes remain unviable...
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    BH Balanced Hackmons

    Can we get rid of hiding the sprite of an arceus type? Also can someone explain to me how a mega gengars shadow ball was able to hit my normal type?
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    Announcement SM OU Suspect Process, Round 2 - Dirt

    This is purely subjective. To be honest a metagame without breakers is more less fun and more less healthy to play with. I don't get people who say that diglett and trapinch are substitutes for dugtrio. Diglett has half as many base attack and trapinch is slow as hell. At best they can trap...
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    Announcement np: SM OU Suspect Process, Round 1 - Digital Love - Genesect is now banned

    I find something wrong about this whole broken check broken argument that the pro ban keeps pointing. While it does seem a legit argument at face value, when you look deeper into it a problem emerges. Is something really BROKEN if there are things in the tier that can check it? Some people may...
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    Pokémon Araquanid

    252+ Atk Choice Band Araquanid Liquidation vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Toxapex: 122-144 (40.1 - 47.3%) -- 2% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Black Sludge recovery vs 252+ Atk Choice Band Huge Power Azumarill Waterfall vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Toxapex: 96-113 (31.5 - 37.1%) -- 81.2% chance to 3HKO...
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    Pokémon Porygon-Z

    How do you make porygon-z typing change?
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    Metagame Metagame Discussion Thread

    I have seen a few lele's with focus blast recently. I'm sure though that av ttar can survive at least one though.
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    Metagame Metagame Discussion Thread

    Hoopa -u is really great against aeigslash since it doesn't care about king shield has hyperspace fury breaks through it.
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    Pokémon Zygarde-Complete (100% Forme)

    I don't know if whimsicott is out yet but if it is, this thing can check it by threatening to encore it. I still think this thing is broken and needs be banned. I'm more in favor of banning the ability power construct because I think this pushes it over the edge a lot more than thousand...
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