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  1. Metagame Shared Power [Under Re-Construction!]

    i feel serene grace being shared is uncompetitive. pretty sure other people do too, but since the main focus of discussion was about m. guard, bounce I feel like serene grace was just forgotten about. I would say limit serene grace because flinching is just toxic. since the focus is on m.guard...
  2. Metagame Inheritance

    Garchomp @ Metronome Ability: Aura Break EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe Adamant Nature - Thousand Arrows - Dragon Dance - Substitute - Extreme Speed i like metronome + Thousand Arrows.. its a fun sweeper. the metronome boost ignores unaware which i suppose is its main niche. but its...
  3. Popplio, Brionne, Primarina DIscussion

    calm mind, recover have never been tutor moves. it already gets the coverage it would want. Sure things can change with recover and calm mind, but i just dont see it.
  4. Rockruff, Lycanroc (Midday and Midnight) Discussion

    yeahh i wish midday learned hone claws because of this. I mean it should have been able to learn it simply based on the fact that its a wolf. wolves have claws gf.. i also hate that it got sand rush. -.- sure it makes some sense, fast wolf needs to go faster, its just a chore to set up sand for...
  5. Alolan Raichu Discussion

    just use trick room with something slow
  6. SPOILERS! Pokemon Sun and Moon Full Game Story Spoiler Discussion (Read the OP)

    http://image.prntscr.com/image/4e711b4c44694c58b828eb0a489468da.png Necrozma can change form, or at least in the sequel or power rangers megamorph time
  7. Data Pokemon Sun/Moon Battle Mechanics Research

    that was my first thought, then i thought "future event." wishful thinking but Pichu gets Volt Tackle by having a parent hold light ball, yet Volt Tackle is not in the datamine move list. More Special Egg Moves like this would be interesting, but very very unlikely.
  8. Pikipek, Trumbeak, Toucannon Discussion

    lack of flying multi hit sucks but oh well. Best Z-status might be tailwind, as it covers its speed and gives it a higher crit chance. then bullet seed for rock coverage, or rock blast for ice cover or both if you arent running roost. STAB? i guess return or brave bird.
  9. Data Pokemon Sun/Moon Battle Mechanics Research

    http://www.smogon.com/forums/attachments/screenshot_2016-11-15-02-21-06-jpg.73473/ http://www.smogon.com/forums/attachments/screenshot_2016-11-15-01-40-19-jpg.73468/ an in-game trainer has a Kommo-o with shell smash. it was only discovered because ditto transformed into it edit: added another...
  10. SPOILERS! Pokemon Sun and Moon Full Game Datamine General Discussion Thread

    wait so there is no super training either right? any tips or tricks for EV training? :P
  11. Dewpider, Araquanid Discussion

    yeah its only beneficial to use things like leech life, poison jab, crunch when a. opponent pokemon has a water immunity b. water is resisted but bug or poison or dark would land a super effective c. you want to rely on the secondary effect of poison jab(poison) leech life(some health) crunch...
  12. Popplio, Brionne, Primarina DIscussion

    thats a shame really. its like what is the point Sparkling aria vs Liquid Hyper voice, same power. . healing an opponent but having torrent vs not healing them. ill do some calcs. I want to see how well Primarina fares againsts its checks. If anything catching them on as they switch in could be...
  13. Popplio, Brionne, Primarina DIscussion

    i understand your skepticism, and am glad you asked in the mechanics thread. :) would be cool if liquid voice worked as a defensive ability (at least in the hands of a water type, etc) ehhh not to be rude but that isnt even a problem with the ability, thats just bad team building and flopped...
  14. Data Pokemon Sun/Moon Battle Mechanics Research

    Does Liquid Voice turn every Pokemon's sound based moves into water type? or is it only the users moves? --"All sound-based moves become Water-type moves." so far text is very different from Normalize and -ate abilities --"All the Pokémon’s moves become Normal type. The...
  15. Data Pokemon Sun/Moon Battle Mechanics Research

    yes. Z-moves can be used regardless of the base move's (last resort for example) circumstances. edit greninja'd But i will say that the way i stated it is in general of all other moves
  16. Popplio, Brionne, Primarina DIscussion

    Huge speculation, needs testing. But I have no reason to believe this isnt true. Liquid Voice makes opponents sound move water type as well. Text says "All sound-based moves become Water-type moves." Essentially, Primarina will resist hyper voice and boomburst and any other sound damaging move...
  17. Data Pokemon Sun/Moon Battle Mechanics Research

    Im assuming its for targeting status moves like wisp or twave. It would not stop a sableye from using recover.. thoughts? you can test this in the current gen. most likely it hasnt been changed. http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Grounded The text reads ALL sound based moves are water...
  18. Cutiefly, Ribombee Discussion

    I felt like the flinch was a primary effect loophole sort of thing. But You are right, That is pretty good. Other notable benefits of it in doubles is against Bulldoze, Icy Wind, Electro Web, Discharge, Scald, Body Slam, snarl, rock slide, iron head power up punch (although who would use that...
  19. Data Pokemon Sun/Moon Battle Mechanics Research

    he said it does block the switch-pursuit it does not block stay in pursuit
  20. Data Pokemon Sun/Moon Battle Mechanics Research

    feint bypasses spiky shield damage. so no you wont get poisoned im sure its only those moves (there arent any new ground shaking attacks) terrain parallels weather, so from 5 to 8 - seeds shouldnt be affected by harvest, harvest affects berries. Pick up has never worked like that. ( more info...
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