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  1. Avira

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Gouging Fire remains in OU]

    Gholdengo is an OU staple in Gen 9, you know... Fini would not be a good removal option in Gen 9 if it existed.
  2. Avira

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Gouging Fire remains in OU]

    I believe Primarina would be better than Tapu Fini this gen even if the Tapus were playable in SV. Psychic Noise for denying recovery and Encore in this offense-heavy tier along with Flip Turn as follow-up to those moves are big upsides it has over Tapu Fini in spite of its lower bulk...
  3. Avira

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Gouging Fire remains in OU]

    I agree with most of your points, Moyashi, but you misinterpreted that line about Kingambit. What RKOtaku meant that is that if players can use Zamazenta and Kingambit to blanket check offense that there should be something like Ogerpon-Wellspring that can blanket check more passive playstyles...
  4. Avira

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Gouging Fire remains in OU]

    That's just not true as fat structures have the easiest time against Lugia. Repeat after me, Lugia does not have Stored Power, and it never will have Stored Power.
  5. Avira

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Gouging Fire remains in OU]

    I concur with this take. A lot of the increased activity for SV OU involves posts wanting to drop some Uber along with replies to that as well as non-productive going around in circles, or spam/meme takes that would be deleted/infracted in previous generations. That artificially makes the forums...
  6. Avira

    Announcement np: SV OU Suspect Process, Round 11 - We Didn't Start the Fire

    Gouging Fire does have some positive effects on the meta, but I think keeping Gouging Fire will likely result in every other suspect moving forward ending up with a DNB verdict since it's a big stat stick defensively to a level we haven't seen for a mainstay OU mon (Zygarde-Complete was banned...
  7. Avira

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Gouging Fire remains in OU]

    The time when there was significant interest in a Tera suspect is long gone. Most of the people who want one either don't play SV anymore or can't get reqs, so there likely won't even be a Tera Blast suspect as the unrestricted Tera camp has fully won out.
  8. Avira

    Announcement np: SV OU Suspect Process, Round 11 - We Didn't Start the Fire

    I know Base stats aren't the be-all and end-all, but I find it dumb that Gouging Fire has comparable raw bulk to Garganacl along with a better defensive typing while actually being an offensive threat with a serviceable speed tier and an ability that can further augment its offensive potential...
  9. Avira

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Gouging Fire remains in OU]

    I concur with Finchinator that the meta is nowhere near as bad as some people think it is. Sure, it can use some work, but things could be a lot worse. Banning Archaludon, and soon also Gouging Fire, will free up building a decent degree although more would still need to be done.
  10. Avira

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Gouging Fire remains in OU]

    The fact of the matter is that there is legitimately an uptick in anti-ban sentiment that arose from people finding out that the Breaking Swipe set is far from broken. At the time the suspect started, Gouging Fire was a guaranteed ban, but now it looks to be a closer suspect, probably more like...
  11. Avira

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Gouging Fire remains in OU]

    Don't forget Espathra and Regieleki as well. And the main reason Ursaluna-Bloodmoon was close to uncheckable was 'cause of Tera. Without Tera, it has a very abusable defensive typing as well as special bulk that is only okay when unboosted, so there are a lot of interactions that are not easily...
  12. Avira

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Gouging Fire remains in OU]

    I don't think so. Nidoking might have some viability by being faster than Gholdengo, but Nidoqueen would really struggle in OU since neither its stats or typing would be all that useful in SV OU. Nidoqueen would check far too few mons for it to actually pull its weight.
  13. Avira

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Gouging Fire remains in OU]

    No, with 73 GXE, peepeepoopoo722 would need to win many, many matches in a row to reach the required GXE. I would recommend starting over from scratch, as you'd need to be an elite player to recover from having 73 GXE.
  14. Avira

    Announcement np: SV OU Suspect Process, Round 11 - We Didn't Start the Fire

    Chill, man. The OU playerbase is not a monolith. Just as there are people who gave Gouging Fire 4 or 5 on the survey, there were also people who gave it a 1 or 2. There were very clearly a fair number of people who wanted it to stay or else Gouging Fire would have gotten comparable numbers to...
  15. Avira

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Gouging Fire remains in OU]

    That does make sense. I think the only time it made sense to do a second Tera suspect would have been in place of the Kingambit suspect test before the Teal Mask dropped. The support for banning Tera has long since faded. There's no use in beating a dead horse.
  16. Avira

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Gouging Fire remains in OU]

    You're welcome to believe that, BolTingBlazie, but as far as I can tell based on the trajectory of the results on action on Tera the number of people who support action on it will continuously go down as people either decide to live with Tera or stop engaging with the community. I do not...
  17. Avira

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Gouging Fire remains in OU]

    I disagree with this. Right now, there are clearly too many threats in the meta to reasonably handle, and something like Gouging Fire is stupidly broken and warps teambuilding to a horrible extent. I do not believe that Volcarona will get much better with Gouging Fire's ban, and on the...
  18. Avira

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Gouging Fire remains in OU]

    I don't think it's weird. Gouging Fire and Ogerpon-Wellspring are just easy to misuse by players of lesser battling skill or teambuilding skill.
  19. Avira

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Gouging Fire remains in OU]

    Given that Gouging Fire got above a 4.0 on the survey, may I ask why it isn't being quickbanned since a 4.0 score is typically quickban territory?
  20. Avira

    Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Gouging Fire remains in OU]

    Nobody who can get reqs thinks this. Espathra would be very underwhelming without Tera. If Speed Boost activated upon switching in mid turn, it'd be a bit better, but without Tera, Espathra will have an extremely difficult time setting up to +2 outside of screens given it's terrible defensive...
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