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  1. Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Gouging Fire remains in OU]

    Nah, Volcarona is every bit as good as the hype. The only thing saving you from a well played Volcarona is coverage. That’s why it is the matchup moth. The best set is bulky Volcarona. After a single QD it is impervious to special attacks. Flame Body + good typing + Physical investment...
  2. Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Gouging Fire remains in OU]

    The only way to get any kind of action on Tera is to come together on the next survey! We have to get the council’s attention! We can debate and vote on the specifics once we get a suspect. For now, we must unify to force the council to act! We need action on Tera now!
  3. Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Gouging Fire remains in OU]

    We must organize against Tera to save Gen 9! Tired of threat saturation? Tired of unhealthy mons avoiding the ban hammer? Tired of losing winnable games due to an untimely, unpredictable Tera typing? Vote against Tera on the next survey!
  4. Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Gouging Fire remains in OU]

    The problem is Tera. Nothing is broken when you can Tera defensively to stop it! Disappointed with the results? Organize against Tera!
  5. Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Gouging Fire remains in OU]

    I think a lot of people who wanted Tera gone straight up stopped playing. I can think of a few off the top of my head. It’s a shame.
  6. Resource SV OU Bazaar - The Indigo Disk Edition!

    I updated this Ceruledge Sun team for the current metagame, with a few helpful changes. All the mons are the same. I don't play as much these days because of the state of the meta. This is the only squad I've enjoyed using. Quick rundown: Torkoal - switched to Tera Bug, Fire Blast and some SpA...
  7. Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Gouging Fire remains in OU]

    No, it would just be an unofficial metagame. We have plenty of them. The real question is why the mere suggestion of such illicits such hostility. I played OU Blitz in both Gen 7 and Gen 8. It followed OU tiering and had an unofficial ladder. It was not the format for any official...
  8. Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Gouging Fire remains in OU]

    It’s not outright ban correct however it is also not inaction / no action which is what we’ve had in the year since and is the preference of only a minority of voters. I believe I said in my last response that the suggestion as understood is not a new tier. As an idea it is analogous to OU...
  9. Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Gouging Fire remains in OU]

    Fair. Gen 9 and Tera I believe has changed the way I look at tiering. In the past, banworthy pokemon were “broken.” Limited or onerous counterplay existed. They just beat you down. Huge unfair advantages. Re: Raging Bolt, Volcarona, and Kingambit I don’t think any of these mons are “broken”...
  10. Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Gouging Fire remains in OU]

    I’m always willing to re-iterate and relitigate that the 59% majority lost to a 41% minority. And we’ve been battling in an unbalanced tier ever since. The suggestion as I understand it is analogous to the late OU blitz ladder; it would be unofficial and follow the ban list of regular OU...
  11. Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Gouging Fire remains in OU]

    While I agree a teraless ladder chances of happening are between infinitesimal and nil, what about the idea is a mess and waste of time? Tera is a highly controversial mechanic that has polarized the Gen. It is still showing up on surveys because about half the player base has some sort of...
  12. SV OU Team of 6 "shiitemons" breaks 1900 in OU

    Looks cool and congrats on the success. I don’t have anything to add other than maybe Body Press > Drain Punch on Chesnaught? Also, 0 Spe IV on Slowking to out-slow his cousin!
  13. Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Gouging Fire remains in OU]

    Old Gen games are great they just don’t have enough of the player base. Thus, are less competitive overall. This Gen definitely needs Ferrothorn! Come to think of it… Ferrothorn might have been holding the entire game together since Gen 5. It offers so much support, utility, and blanket...
  14. Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Gouging Fire remains in OU]

    We can dream but it is likely not going to happen. There is no will to act on Tera. People have gotten used to the chaos meta. Can't fault the council in any of this.... It is what the people voted for. A fun ladder we used to have was the OU blitz ladder. It was an unofficial ladder for quick...
  15. Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Gouging Fire remains in OU]

    I specifically mentioned once Ogerpon-W is banned, we must resort to CC Amonguss. That is an indictment on ‘Guss being complete ass in a sleepless (+Gholdengo) metagame. Hence, Seismitoad vs. Dracovish. Stealth Rock. There aren’t really switch ins. You just have to have a solid defensive...
  16. Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Gouging Fire remains in OU]

    Water Absorb Seismitoad vs. Dracovish. If we have to fish to the bottom of the dumpster, there is usually a problem.
  17. Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Gouging Fire remains in OU]

    Thank you for the compliment. I’m flattered that the council decided to put Garganacl on the survey just for an unqualified user such as myself. Bookmark this post. Y’all will be crying for mercy once Garg creeps back into consistent usage and we’re stuck using Covert Cloak Amonguss to deal...
  18. Metagame SV OU Metagame Discussion v4 [Gouging Fire remains in OU]

    Ban for Gouging Fire. Doesn’t feel overwhelming to me but is still a general pain the arse in a meta full of pains in the arses. Btw, I’m already seeing more Garganacl on the ladder. I told y’all this piece of shit is broken and will make a comeback.
  19. SV OU AV Slither WIN sun (Peak 2003 - #5)

    Fair! You are welcome and congrats on the peak!
  20. SV OU AV Slither WIN sun (Peak 2003 - #5)

    Really dope team. I love sun so much this Gen. Re: Walking Wake- I definitely agree +SpA is the wave. Some considerations are Weather Ball > Flamethrower and Scald > Flip Turn. Also it is worth considering Modest as with Tera Water you 2HKO Blissey. Timid is probably still better but it is...
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