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I'm using Hail myself...this hax "abuse" isn't truly worthwhile. You might see it as annoying, but that's just what it is: annoying, nothing more. Also, if you don't care about the actual effect on the metagame, then you shouldn't even be posting here.

Frequently as in only the very rare Hail teams that barely have any good abusers and the rare SV Gliscor? Yea, let's temporarily ban Froslass and limit several other pokemon's movepools just so we don't have to deal with Mamoswine or SV Gliscor getting a single free turn. God forbid they...

We treat a lot of things as 100% counters when they really aren't. Example is Blissey coming in on Latios when Specs Psyshock just rapes her.

Never seen a Rotom-W run Hydro Pump/Volt Switch/T-bolt/Signal Beam/HP Grass/HP Fire But seriously, they always run Hydro pump/Volt Switch/HP Fire or Ice/Trick so Gastrodon, Celebi, etc. are generally very safe switch-ins.

Not many people use Sandslash or Cacturne. Even less people actually manage to sweep with them. If you do get swept so easily, then I think your team might have trouble with more than just evasion.

Which pokemon can sweep or can cause heavy damage to your team if you miss ONCE? Garchomp. He's gone. Which pokemon is bulky and can also evade attacks in weather? Mamoswine and Sandslash are the bulkiest, yet they're not even close to being noticeable threats nor can they abuse that single...

This. Oh, and banning Snow Cloak on Froslass and Mamoswine is just so unnecessary. Hail isn't even considered a threat to most players and banning the abilities would just be making it weaker. We already got rid of the only true Weather-Evasion pokemon a while ago, Garchomp, who also has...

I was talking about Starmie as a Spinner, therefore that set DOES need to run Rapid Spin. Offensive Starmie isn't a reliable spinner(I wasn't even talking about Rain, so Thunder isn't an option). That was my point. Try using a Spin-dependent team and then Offensive Starmie isn't looking too...

Good warstory. It was nice to see a Hail team for a change. The only letdown was how you began sweeping at the end :l 8/10 Anyway, your team seriously lacks Fire resists and IMO, has too many Baton Passers. You also desperately need a spinner x_x Despite this, isn't it fun to use Hail? I know...

But then you realize that Starmie doesn't have a good way to beat Ferrothorn(without using HP Fire, but I'll get to that later) and you need a LO to be able to 2HKO Jellicent, one of the best spinblockers in OU. Then you see that Starmie's best option against Rotom-W is T-bolt and that Starmie...

The difference is that Blaziken was stronger and after a single turn, much faster.

I never said she didn't O.o

I'll try to fit her in. The problem with hail is that you need Aboma, you need a spinner, you need Fighting , Steel, and Rock resists, you need abusers, etc. It gets really packed easily.

Then the Mach Punch fails to OHKO(you can't even switch in with any Mach Punchers...) and he stills OHKOs back :( As a Hail user(although my Hail team sucks, but w/e), CB Terrakion is one of my worst nightmares because it's not too easy to fit his checks/counters in Hail.

"I'm seeing lot's of Dream Eater Substitute Darkrai's why?" Pretty sure he was talking about Dream Eater + Sub.

Dream Eater? I think you're just lower in the ladder x_x You wont see good players in Ubers until the top. Btw, is there any reason to use SD Quaza over EK Arceus? EK Arceus is better at sweeping, but SD Quaza easily kills Giratina and doesn't fear Steels as much. And Rayquaza just looks...

Technically, JollyDrill(I think Adamant failed to OHKO too) couldn't OHKO Max/Max Volcarona(IIRC, the ChestoRest set uses this) with a +0 Rock Slide not taking into account hazards.

Oh don't worry, I plan to fix the team. I was just surprised that I actually got that ranking(even if it's so-so) with so many weaknesses.

It seems like you didn't read any of the 25+ pages of the Deoxys-S Tier Discussion. I suggest you either take some time to read up or don't complain about these things as if they weren't discussed. Oh, and no one ever said we lost games to Deoxys. We did say you lost games to the rest of the...

Why try to correctly use something when you can just mindlessly use something else? :l That's 5th gen OU for you :p