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Roserade@Life Orb Modest nature 136 HP/252 spA/120 spDef rest leaf storm sludge bomb hp fire will o wisp is the most hurtful but theres still natural cure so it doesnt really matter, volt switch and hydro pump dont hurt, leaf storm is a okho. evs have something to do with scizor and bullet...

Scrafty@Leftovers 252 HP/ 8 Atk/ 248 spDef Careful Bulk Up Rest Crunch Drain Punch has good bulk to take a shadow sneak and spiritomb literally cannot touch scrafty as it gets up to +6/+6 and kos with crunch

Tirtouga @ Splash Plate 84 HP / 212 Atk / 12 Def / 180 Spe Sturdy Adamant -Shell Smash -Aqua Tail -Stone Edge -Earthquake maybe hp fire over aqua tail or stone edge so totodile can sweep better late game

What I still don't understand is why people use ice shard. It's ridiculously weak, and without stab, you're really not hurting anything. Payback is a better option, or even stone edge, imo. Payback lets you hit frailer ghosts like Gengar while stone edge hurts dragon/flying types harder than ice...

And then you realize it's not stab.

i always felt that something else in the last slot was a better choice. boosting move+volt switch isnt bad, its just that without stab its just not the same as sd scizor uturn which has that extra umph, you know? Personally, I'd run Taunt/iron head/flash cannon there, taunt lets it beat stuff...

quoting my post because tinkerbell celebi is better than virizion on this team

want to test out murkrow but it's probably gonna get banned again -_- gligar and missy are probably here to stay, maybe not missy but i feel gligar probably will my thoughts just for now

Not sure if I should say this yet but I think a tinkerbell celebi would be a better fit than Virizion. Celebi doesn't really fear anything that Gastrodon can throw at it so we can run willowisp/hp fire rotom now. hp fire on celebi also makes scizor easier to deal with, something like 64 evs or...

Gengar (LO Pain Split)

Last time I checked Huntail was a better smasher than Torkoal.

and if we add a life orb then all those 3hkos become 2hkos and those 2hkos become ohkos. win/win situation. Besides, adding a scarfer at this point isn't that important imo

Do we need to start over now?

I'd like to know where everyone is at the moment. I'm currently at 1208 and stopping for the day.

Just sac a pokemon for sleep (the least useful one that you can tell from teamviewer) and switch in your powerful special attacker (Latios, Reuniclus, Tornadus, Hydreigon, Offensive Heatran) and you can force it out or kill it.

kkkkkkkkk

sry thats reserved

Yeah, umm, have you used Mamo yet? Try it, it's simply amazing. It's ridiculously strong with Icicle crash and earthquake, and the endeavor set almost always gets rocks up. It also serves as a revenge killer for dragons.

LOL

hax is literally shitting all over me, can't even get through a battle without para working at the worst possible moments etc etc ugh -_- on a side note, scarf Jirachi is weak as hell, but mamo is still amazing <33