Gliscor (Analysis)

Got a mention in other options and to boot, also your set lacks Fling to rid of Toxic Orb. I do use a Fling Acrobatics set (along side Swords Dance and Dig [don't question Dig]) and I'll admit it's good but the sets that are there outclass it greatly.

But Give the Gliscor a Poison Heal Ability and there is no use for Fling. I am guessing you don't use DW abilities? Also I was thinking just use Protect First turn to scout while getting poisoned if you want switch. You could however switch it with a Sword Dance.
 
But Give the Gliscor a Poison Heal Ability and there is no use for Fling. I am guessing you don't use DW abilities? Also I was thinking just use Protect First turn to scout while getting poisoned if you want switch. You could however switch it with a Sword Dance.

The Toxic Orb won't disappear once it activates. It stays "attached" to the Gliscor, Poison Heal or not. You need Fling to get rid of the Toxic Orb. By the way, Acrobatics sets are outclassed by Swords Dance sets.
 
Wow..... Embarrassing. Well you definitively need fling!

Gliscor
Nature:Impish
1.Acrobatics
2.U-Turn
3.Earthquake
4. Fling
Item:Toxic Orb
EV: 252 HP, 144 Def,72 Spe, 40 SpeDef

You can get Healed and Poison your opponent! Still makes for a great scout!
 
Acrobatics NOT FLING

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[SET]
name: AcroBat
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Acrobatics
move 3: Earthquake
move 4: Substitute
item: Flight Gem
ability: Sand Veil
nature: Adamant
evs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe

Why this set deserves to be on-site:
  • This is a bait and lure set with the potential to sweep, although Gliscor is obviously a bit slow, that has been discovered through the influence of the same set used by its prevo, Gligar, in LC. Credits to masterful for that invention.
  • This should be on-site because, this is an amazing lure and Sand Veil abuse set, the fact that Gliscor currently doesn't have a purely offensive set, and the fact that set has a certain irremovable surprise value, due to the popularity and slight difference in counters in the other sets.
  • An example of abusing the opponent's assumption of another Gliscor set is that most of the Gliscor sets tend to Protect the first turn, in order to activate Toxic Orb. Well with this set, while they switch out or set up, on the presumed Protect, Gliscor can Substitute, then proceed to Swords Dance the next turn.
  • It also lures in several counters for the other defensive sets and OHKOs them back, such as the Rotom-Appliances with Stealth Rock (mostly Rotom-W). I'm told by somebody that nobody has come up with a Rotom-W lure yet, I guess this is one of the first, and even if Rotom-W finds out its a lure set upon the Substitute, a +4 Gliscor can OHKO nearly everything that doesn't resist Acrobatics, and has EQ/FF for the rest.
    Gliscor Vs Pokemon

    +2 Gliscor Flight Gem Acrobatics vs 112 HP / 0 Def Modest Rotom-Appliance: 634 Atk vs 250 Def & 269 HP (165 Base Power): 225 - 264 (83.64% - 98.14%) - Average of 90.33%

    +2 Gliscor FG Acrobatics vs 4 HP / 0 Def Modest Rotom-Appliance: 634 Atk vs 250 Def & 242 HP (165 Base Power): 225 - 264 (92.98% - 109.09%) - 100.41%

    +2 Gliscor FG Acrobatics vs 252 HP / 252 Def Bold Slowbro: 634 Atk vs 350 Def & 394 HP (165 Base Power): 322 - 379 (81.73% - 96.19%) - Average of 88.32%

    +2 Gliscor FG Acrobatics vs 0 HP / 4 Def Timid Thundurus: 634 Atk vs 176 Def & 299 HP (165 Base Power): 318 - 375 (106.35% - 125.42%)

    +2 Gliscor FG Acrobatics vs 252 HP / 252 Def Bold Milotic: 634 Atk vs 282 Def & 394 HP (165 Base Power): 399 - 469 (101.27% - 119.04%)

    +2 Gliscor FG Acrobatics vs 252 HP / 184 Def Bold Porygon 2 @ Eviolite: 634 Atk vs 432 Def & 374 HP (165 Base Power): 261 - 307 (69.79% - 82.09%) - Average 75.40%

    +2 Gliscor FG Acrobatics vs 252 HP / 184 Def Impish Gliscor: 634 Atk vs 365 Def & 354 HP (165 Base Power): 307 - 363 (86.72% - 102.54%) - Average of 94.07%

    +2 Gliscor Itemless Acrobatics vs 112 HP / 0 Def Modest Rotom-Appliance: 634 Atk vs 250 Def & 269 HP (110 Base Power): 150 - 177 (55.76% - 65.80%)

    +2 Gliscor I Acrobatics vs 4 HP / 0 Def Modest Rotom-Appliance: 634 Atk vs 250 Def & 242 HP (110 Base Power): 150 - 177 (61.98% - 73.14%)

    +2 Gliscor I Acrobatics vs 252 HP / 252 Def Bold Slowbro: 634 Atk vs 350 Def & 394 HP (110 Base Power): 214 - 253 (54.31% - 64.21%)

    +2 Gliscor I Acrobatics vs 0 HP / 4 Def Timid Thundurus: 634 Atk vs 176 Def & 299 HP (110 Base Power): 212 - 250 (70.90% - 83.61%)

    +2 Gliscor I Acrobatics vs 252 HP / 252 Def Bold Milotic: 634 Atk vs 282 Def & 394 HP (110 Base Power): 265 - 313 (67.26% - 79.44%)

    +2 Gliscor I Acrobatics vs 252 HP / 184 Def Bold Porygon2 @ Eviolite: 634 Atk vs 432 Def & 374 HP (110 Base Power): 174 - 205 (46.52% - 54.81%)

    +2 Gliscor I Acrobatics vs 252 HP / 184 Def Bold Gliscor: 634 Atk vs 365 Def & 354 HP (110 Base Power): 205 - 243 (57.91% - 68.64%)

    Pokemon vs Gliscor

    +2 Max Adamant Excadrill Rock Slide vs Gliscor: 810 Atk vs 287 Def & 291 HP (75 Base Power): 152 - 179 (52.23% - 61.51%)

    +2 LO Max Adamant Excadrill Rock Slide vs Gliscor: 810 Atk vs 287 Def & 291 HP (75 Base Power): 197 - 232 (67.70% - 79.73%)

    +2 Max Adamant Excadrill Return vs Gliscor: 810 Atk vs 287 Def & 291 HP (102 Base Power): 206 - 243 (70.79% - 83.51%)

    +2 LO Max Adamant Excadrill Return vs Gliscor: 810 Atk vs 287 Def & 291 HP (102 Base Power): 267 - 315 (91.75% - 108.25%)

    +0 0 Atk Relaxed Ferrothorn Power Whip vs Gliscor: 224 Atk vs 287 Def & 291 HP (120 Base Power): 102 - 120 (35.05% - 41.24%)

    +0 4 Atk Bold Slowbro / Milotic Surf vs Gliscor: 237 Atk vs 186 Def & 291 HP (95 Base Power): 260 - 308 (89.35% - 105.84%)

    +0 4 Atk Bold Slowbro / Milotic Scald vs Gliscor: 237 Atk vs 186 Def & 291 HP (80 Base Power): 218 - 260 (74.91% - 89.35%)

    +0 0 Atk Impish Gliscor Ice Fang vs Gliscor: 226 Atk vs 287 Def & 291 HP (65 Base Power): 148 - 176 (50.86% - 60.48%)

    +2 0 Atk Impish Gliscor Ice Fang vs Gliscor: 452 Atk vs 287 Def & 291 HP (65 Base Power): 292 - 348 (100.34% - 119.59%)

Additional Comments:
  • Fire Fang, Taunt, and Roost can all go over either Substitute or Earthquake.
  • Fire Fang is good for hitting Bronzong and Skarmory, but unfortunately a +4 Gliscor FF only 2HKOs 252 HP / 228 Def Skarmory around 50% of the time. However, +2 Gliscor FF always 2HKOs the standard Bronzong, while HP Ice will always fail to OHKO Gliscor, even with SR.
  • Taunt helps you set up over Skarmory who try to Whirlwind you and 2HKO them back with a +4 FG Acrobatics + No Item Acrobatics (not sure, but it could OHKO with FG when adding in the Recoil), but Brave Bird will do 30.24% - 36.08% on Gliscor and Taunt isn't of too much use outside of that.
  • Roost is for longevity and stuff, although often times you'll find yourself rather attacking, Sand Veil induced misses could give you more opportunities to Roost. It could also help to set up on Pokemon with fixed damage, such as Blissey or Chansey.
  • Max speed is recommended for tying with neutral max Speed Darmanitan and Kyurem. However, if that is not of a concern, the lowest recommended speed is 272, which is 184 Spe EVs, in order to always outspeed neutral max Speed Rotom-appliance. You can then locate the extra 72 EVs into HP, which gives you a 309, an odd number for Substitutes.
  • To go in depth on how it lures things stuff like Rotom-W, this is how this set works. Switch into something like a Ferrothorn, Blissey, or Forretress setting up, or basically any slower or defensive Pokemon that Gliscor might scare away, Substitute (Sand Veil hax helps) to block Leech Seed or Swords on a weak enough attack or on their switch to a counter, such as Rotom-W. With a Substitute in tact, you can Swords Dance, then go for the over 70% chance of a OHKO with Flight Gem Acrobatics, assuming you have SR. Now 70ish% might look ugly, but it gets better when you factor in the 40.96% chance Rotom-W to hit with Hydro Pump twice in a row (once to break the Substitute), since Hydro Pump is effectively lowered to 64% accuracy. This translates to effectively 12.2% chance of Rotom-W beating you with Hydro Pump, which can significantly be lowered by simply Substituting again to get a, more often than not, Sand Veil aided miss, allowing you to SD again if you want. This is further aided by Garchomp's recent banning, as it has caused Scarf Rotom-W and HP Ice usage to go down.
Teammates & Counters:
  • Tyranitar or Hippowdon is a must for Sand Veil to be activated. Wobbuffet is appreciated, as well as Pokemon that can take on Pokemon who can take on Skarmory and Bronzong, such as Rotom-W. SR is also a big help to get certain OHKOs, such as the Rotom-appliance one.
  • Skarmory can take it on without Taunt, Bronzong without Fire Fang, Porygon2 with Ice Beam, pretty much anything faster than it that has a STAB or SE move, like Surf or Ice Beam, while Gliscor isn't behind a Substitute. Cloyster also manhandles it with Icicle Spears. Not much else can switch in without taking a smackdown from Acrobatics.

Logs:

me: latios CROAGUNK azumaril chansey skarmory politoed
i sent out Tyranitar!
they sent out Politoed!
The foe's Politoed's Drizzle made it rain!
Tyranitar's Sand Stream whipped up a sandstorm!

Start of turn 1
they called Politoed back!
they sent out Skarmory!

Tyranitar used Crunch!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Skarmory lost 9% of its health!

The sandstorm rages!
The foe's Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 2
The foe's Skarmory used Spikes!
Spikes were scattered all around the feet of Cuss You Cuss's team!

Tyranitar used Fire Blast!
It's super effective!
The foe's Skarmory lost 64% of its health!

The sandstorm rages!
The foe's Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 3
they called Skarmory back!
they sent out Politoed!

The foe's Politoed's Drizzle made it rain!
Tyranitar used Stealth Rock!
Pointed stones float in the air around icey the king of ice's team!

Rain continues to fall!

Start of turn 4
Cuss You Cuss called Tyranitar back!
Cuss You Cuss sent out Blissey!
Blissey is hurt by spikes!

The foe's Politoed used Hydro Pump!
Blissey lost 177 HP! (24% of its health)

Rain continues to fall!
Blissey restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 5
they called Politoed back!
they sent out Chansey!
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Chansey!

Cuss You Cuss called Blissey back!
Cuss You Cuss sent out Tyranitar!
Tyranitar is hurt by spikes!

Tyranitar's Sand Stream whipped up a sandstorm!
The sandstorm rages!
The foe's Chansey is buffeted by the sandstorm!
Tyranitar restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 6
Cuss You Cuss called Tyranitar back!
Cuss You Cuss sent out Skarmory!

The foe's Chansey used Protect!
But it failed!

The sandstorm rages!
The foe's Chansey is buffeted by the sandstorm!

Start of turn 7
Cuss You Cuss called Skarmory back!
Cuss You Cuss sent out Gliscor!

The foe's Chansey used Stealth Rock!
Pointed stones float in the air around Cuss You Cuss's team!

The sandstorm rages!
The foe's Chansey is buffeted by the sandstorm!

Start of turn 8
they called Chansey back!
they sent out Politoed!
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Politoed!

The foe's Politoed's Drizzle made it rain!
Gliscor used Substitute!
Gliscor made a substitute!

Rain continues to fall!

Start of turn 9
they called Politoed back!
they sent out Skarmory!
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Skarmory!

Gliscor used Swords Dance!
Gliscor's Attack sharply rose!

Rain continues to fall!
The foe's Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 10
Gliscor used Acrobatics!
It's not very effective...
Gliscor's Flight Gem raised Acrobatics's power!
The foe's Skarmory lost 31% of its health!
The foe's Skarmory fainted!

Rain continues to fall!
they sent out Azumarill!
they dug into the foe's Azumarill!

Start of turn 11
The foe's Azumarill used Aqua Jet!
It's super effective!
Gliscor's substitute faded!

Gliscor used Acrobatics!
The foe's Azumarill lost 87% of its health!
The foe's Azumarill fainted!

Rain continues to fall!
they sent out Politoed!
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Politoed!

Start of turn 12
The foe's Politoed used Hydro Pump!
It's super effective!
Gliscor lost 219 HP! (75% of its health)
Gliscor fainted!

Cuss You Cuss: tyrabanks zoroak heracross excadrill rotom-w gliscor
Cuss You Cuss sent out Jirachi!
Grendel Testing sent out Heracross!

Start of turn 1
they called Heracross back!
they sent out Gliscor!

Cuss You Cuss called Jirachi back!
Cuss You Cuss sent out Skarmory!

The foe's Gliscor's Toxic Orb activated!
The foe's Gliscor was poisoned!

Start of turn 2
they called Gliscor back!
they sent out Rotom-W!

Cuss You Cuss called Skarmory back!
Cuss You Cuss sent out Thundurus!

Start of turn 3
Cuss You Cuss called Thundurus back!
Cuss You Cuss sent out Blissey!

The foe's Rotom-W used Thunder Wave!
Blissey is paralyzed! It may be unable to move!

Start of turn 4
they called Rotom-W back!
they sent out Gliscor!

Blissey is paralyzed! It can't move!

The foe's Gliscor restored HP using its Poison Heal!

Start of turn 5
Cuss You Cuss called Blissey back!
Cuss You Cuss sent out Skarmory!

The foe's Gliscor used Ice Fang!
Skarmory lost 29 HP! (8% of its health)

The foe's Gliscor restored HP using its Poison Heal!
Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 6
Cuss You Cuss called Skarmory back!
Cuss You Cuss sent out Tyranitar!

Tyranitar's Sand Stream whipped up a sandstorm!
The foe's Gliscor used Swords Dance!
The foe's Gliscor's Attack sharply rose!

The sandstorm rages!
The foe's Gliscor restored HP using its Poison Heal!

Start of turn 7
Cuss You Cuss called Tyranitar back!
Cuss You Cuss sent out Skarmory!

The foe's Gliscor used Earthquake!
It had no effect!

The sandstorm rages!
The foe's Gliscor restored HP using its Poison Heal!
Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 8
The foe's Gliscor used Ice Fang!
Skarmory lost 56 HP! (16% of its health)

Skarmory flinched!

The sandstorm rages!
The foe's Gliscor restored HP using its Poison Heal!
Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 9
The foe's Gliscor used Ice Fang!
Skarmory lost 60 HP! (17% of its health)

Skarmory used Whirlwind!
The foe's Heracross was dragged out!

The sandstorm rages!
The foe's Heracross is buffeted by the sandstorm!
Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 10
Grendel Testing called Heracross back!
Grendel Testing sent out Rotom-W!

Skarmory used Brave Bird!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Rotom-W lost 20% of its health!
Skarmory is hit with recoil!

The sandstorm rages!
The foe's Rotom-W is buffeted by the sandstorm!
The foe's Rotom-W restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Skarmory restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 11
they called Rotom-W back!
they sent out Heracross!

Cuss You Cuss called Skarmory back!
Cuss You Cuss sent out Blissey!

The sandstorm rages!
The foe's Heracross is buffeted by the sandstorm!
Blissey is buffeted by the sandstorm!
Blissey restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 12
Cuss You Cuss called Blissey back!
Cuss You Cuss sent out Gliscor!

The foe's Heracross used Close Combat!
It's not very effective...
A critical hit!
Gliscor lost 188 HP! (64% of its health)
The foe's Heracross's Defense fell!
The foe's Heracross's Sp. Def. fell!

The sandstorm rages!
The foe's Heracross is buffeted by the sandstorm!

Start of turn 13
they called Heracross back!
they sent out Rotom-W!

Gliscor used Substitute!
Gliscor made a substitute!

The sandstorm rages!
The foe's Rotom-W is buffeted by the sandstorm!
The foe's Rotom-W restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 14
Gliscor used Swords Dance!
Gliscor's Attack sharply rose!

The foe's Rotom-W used Hydro Pump!
It's super effective!
Gliscor's substitute faded!

The sandstorm rages!
The foe's Rotom-W is buffeted by the sandstorm!
The foe's Rotom-W restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 15
Gliscor used Acrobatics!
It's not very effective...
Gliscor's Flight Gem raised Acrobatics's power!
The foe's Rotom-W lost 79% of its health!
The foe's Rotom-W fainted!

The sandstorm rages!
they sent out Excadrill!

Start of turn 16
The foe's Excadrill used Rock Slide!
Gliscor lost 31 HP! (10% of its health)
Gliscor fainted!

Start of turn 1
Jirachi used Thunder Wave!
The foe's Tangrowth is paralyzed! It may be unable to move!

The foe's Tangrowth used Leech Seed!
Jirachi was seeded!

Jirachi's health is sapped by leech seed.

Start of turn 2
Jirachi used Wish!

The foe's Tangrowth used Knock Off!
Jirachi lost 17 HP! (4% of its health)
The foe's Tangrowth knocked off Jirachi's Leftovers!

Jirachi's health is sapped by leech seed.

Start of turn 3
Jirachi used Ice Punch!
It's super effective!
The foe's Tangrowth lost 16% of its health!

The foe's Tangrowth used Leech Seed!
It doesn't affect Jirachi...

Jirachi's wish came true!
Jirachi's health is sapped by leech seed.
The foe's Tangrowth restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 4
Cuss You Cuss called Jirachi back!
Cuss You Cuss sent out Skarmory!

they called Tangrowth back!
they sent out Nidoqueen!

Start of turn 5
Cuss You Cuss called Skarmory back!
Cuss You Cuss sent out Gliscor!

The foe's Nidoqueen used Stealth Rock!
Pointed stones float in the air around Cuss You Cuss's team!

they: someone else

Start of turn 6
they called Nidoqueen back!
they sent out Tangrowth!

Gliscor used Substitute!
Gliscor made a substitute!

Start of turn 7
Gliscor used Swords Dance!
Gliscor's Attack sharply rose!

The foe's Tangrowth used Hidden Power!
It's super effective!
A critical hit!
Gliscor's substitute faded!

Start of turn 8
Gliscor used Acrobatics!
It's super effective!
Gliscor's Flight Gem raised Acrobatics's power!
The foe's Tangrowth lost 100% of its health!
The foe's Tangrowth fainted!

they sent out Nidoqueen!

Start of turn 9
Gliscor used Earthquake!
It's super effective!
The foe's Nidoqueen lost 100% of its health!
The foe's Nidoqueen fainted!

they sent out Jellicent!

Start of turn 10
Gliscor used Acrobatics!
The foe's Jellicent lost 91% of its health!

The foe's Jellicent used Scald!
It's super effective!
Gliscor lost 216 HP! (73% of its health)

The foe's Jellicent restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 11
Gliscor used Acrobatics!
The foe's Jellicent lost 14% of its health!
The foe's Jellicent fainted!

they sent out Blissey!

Start of turn 12
Gliscor used Acrobatics!
The foe's Blissey lost 98% of its health!

The foe's Blissey used Flamethrower!
Gliscor lost 3 HP! (1% of its health)
Gliscor fainted!

Cuss You Cuss: politoed rotomw latios scizor ferrothorn gliscor
they sent out Orage! (Politoed)
Cuss You Cuss sent out Tyranitar!
The foe's Orage's Drizzle made it rain!
Tyranitar's Sand Stream whipped up a sandstorm!

Start of turn 1
The foe's Orage used Focus Blast!
It's super effective!
Tyranitar lost 404 HP! (100% of its health)
Tyranitar fainted!

The sandstorm rages!
The foe's Orage is buffeted by the sandstorm!
Cuss You Cuss sent out Gliscor!

Start of turn 2
they called Orage back!
they sent out Whirlpool! (Rotom-W)

Gliscor used Substitute!
Gliscor made a substitute!

The sandstorm rages!
The foe's Whirlpool is buffeted by the sandstorm!

Start of turn 3
The foe's Whirlpool used Hidden Power!
The attack of the foe's Whirlpool missed!

Gliscor used Swords Dance!
Gliscor's Attack sharply rose!

The sandstorm rages!
The foe's Whirlpool is buffeted by the sandstorm!

Start of turn 4
The foe's Whirlpool used Hidden Power!
It's super effective!
A critical hit!
Gliscor's substitute faded!

Gliscor used Acrobatics!
It's not very effective...
Gliscor's Flight Gem raised Acrobatics's power!
The foe's Whirlpool lost 87% of its health!
The foe's Whirlpool fainted!

The sandstorm rages!
they sent out Orage! (Politoed)

The foe's Orage's Drizzle made it rain!

Start of turn 5
Gliscor used Acrobatics!
The foe's Orage lost 93% of its health!
The foe's Orage fainted!

Rain continues to fall!
they sent out Kétos! (Latios)

Start of turn 6
Cuss You Cuss called Gliscor back!

Start of turn 10
Jirachi used Body Slam!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Tyranitar lost 7% of its health!
The foe's Tyranitar is paralyzed! It may be unable to move!

The foe's Tyranitar used Aqua Tail!
Jirachi lost 55 HP! (13% of its health)
Jirachi fainted!

The sandstorm rages!
Cuss You Cuss sent out Gliscor!

Start of turn 11
Gliscor used Substitute!
Gliscor made a substitute!

The foe's Tyranitar used Aqua Tail!
The attack of the foe's Tyranitar missed!

The sandstorm rages!

Start of turn 12
they called Tyranitar back!
they sent out Gliscor!

Gliscor used Swords Dance!
Gliscor's Attack sharply rose!

The sandstorm rages!
The foe's Gliscor restored HP using its Poison Heal!

Start of turn 13
Gliscor used Swords Dance!
Gliscor's Attack sharply rose!

The foe's Gliscor used Facade!
Gliscor's substitute faded!

The sandstorm rages!
The foe's Gliscor restored HP using its Poison Heal!

Start of turn 14
they called Gliscor back!
they sent out Rotom-W!

Gliscor used Acrobatics!
It's not very effective...
Gliscor's Flight Gem raised Acrobatics's power!
The foe's Rotom-W lost 71% of its health!
The foe's Rotom-W fainted!

The sandstorm rages!
they sent out Excadrill!
1996ITO is watching the battle.

The foe's Excadrill is floating on a balloon!
1996ITO stopped watching the battle.

Start of turn 15
The foe's Excadrill used Rock Slide!
Gliscor lost 66 HP! (22% of its health)

Gliscor used Acrobatics!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Excadrill lost 100% of its health!
The foe's Excadrill fainted!

The sandstorm rages!
they sent out Milotic!

Start of turn 16
Gliscor used Acrobatics!
The foe's Milotic lost 100% of its health!
The foe's Milotic fainted!

Start of turn 2
Cuss You Cuss called Blissey back!
Cuss You Cuss sent out Gliscor!

The foe's Ferrothorn used Stealth Rock!
Pointed stones float in the air around Cuss You Cuss's team!

Rain continues to fall!

Start of turn 3
Gliscor used Substitute!
Gliscor made a substitute!

The foe's Ferrothorn used Leech Seed!
Gliscor's substitute blocked Leech Seed!

Rain continues to fall!

Start of turn 4
Gliscor used Swords Dance!
Gliscor's Attack sharply rose!

The foe's Ferrothorn used Power Whip!
Gliscor's substitute faded!

Rain continues to fall!

Start of turn 5
Gliscor used Acrobatics!
Gliscor's Flight Gem raised Acrobatics's power!
The foe's Ferrothorn lost 100% of its health!
The foe's Ferrothorn's Iron Barbs hurts Gliscor
The foe's Ferrothorn fainted!

These logs are definitely not the best, but they at least show what it's supposed to, and does accomplish.

Also it's a scorpion AND a bat.
 
I can vouch for the above set's effectiveness. From being a great Rotom -W lure, to sweeping unprepared teams with a manner similar to SubSD Garchomp, and continuing to check the threats it normally does like Excadrill (albeit a much shakier check without the defensive investment and Poison Heal), this is a great set. It also provides a great partner to sweepers like Excadrill, as luring out its checks and counters like Rotom, Bronzong, Skarmory, and Gliscor, and severely damaging them or killing them is great as the partner can sweep much easier. Not to mention that Sand Veil is a really good and broken ability at the same time, and it granted me easier set-ups and sweeps a lot of the time in my testing.

I also went out to test this thing immediately after seeing this, and my logs will show the success I had with this set.

Battle between wilson46 and Pearl. started!

Tier: BW OU
Variation: +9, -22
Rule: Rated
Rule: Sleep Clause
Rule: Species Clause
Rule: Wifi Battle

Pearl. sent out Tyranitar!
wilson46 sent out Jirachi!
The foe's Tyranitar's Sand Stream whipped up a sandstorm!

Start of turn 1
Pearl. called Tyranitar back!
Pearl. sent out Bronzong!

Jirachi used Body Slam!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Bronzong lost 7% of its health!

The sandstorm rages!
The foe's Bronzong restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 2
wilson46 called Jirachi back!
wilson46 sent out Celebi!

The foe's Bronzong used Stealth Rock!
Pointed stones float in the air around wilson46's team!

The sandstorm rages!
Celebi is buffeted by the sandstorm!
Celebi restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Bronzong restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 3
wilson46 called Celebi back!
wilson46 sent out Excadrill!
Pointed stones dug into Excadrill!

Pearl. called Bronzong back!
Pearl. sent out Tyranitar!

The sandstorm rages!

Start of turn 4
Pearl. called Tyranitar back!
Pearl. sent out Bronzong!

Excadrill used Rapid Spin!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Bronzong lost 4% of its health!
Excadrill blew away Stealth Rock!
Excadrill is hurt by its Life Orb!

The sandstorm rages!
The foe's Bronzong restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 5
wilson46 called Excadrill back!
wilson46 sent out Rotom-W!

The foe's Bronzong used Stealth Rock!
Pointed stones float in the air around wilson46's team!

The sandstorm rages!
Rotom-W is buffeted by the sandstorm!
Rotom-W restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 6
Pearl. called Bronzong back!
Pearl. sent out Tyranitar!

Rotom-W used Will-O-Wisp!
The attack of Rotom-W missed!

The sandstorm rages!
Rotom-W is buffeted by the sandstorm!
Rotom-W restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 7
Rotom-W used Will-O-Wisp!
The attack of Rotom-W missed!

The foe's Tyranitar used Stone Edge!
The attack of the foe's Tyranitar missed!

The sandstorm rages!
Rotom-W is buffeted by the sandstorm!
Rotom-W restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 8
Rotom-W used Will-O-Wisp!
The foe's Tyranitar was burned!

The foe's Tyranitar used Stone Edge!
The attack of the foe's Tyranitar missed!

The sandstorm rages!
Rotom-W is buffeted by the sandstorm!
Rotom-W restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Tyranitar is hurt by its burn!

Start of turn 9
Pearl. called Tyranitar back!
Pearl. sent out Breloom!

Rotom-W used Volt Switch!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Breloom lost 25% of its health!
wilson46 called Rotom-W back!
wilson46 sent out Gliscor!
Pointed stones dug into Gliscor!

The sandstorm rages!
The foe's Breloom is buffeted by the sandstorm!
The foe's Breloom's Toxic Orb activated!
The foe's Breloom was poisoned!

Start of turn 10
Pearl. called Breloom back!
Pearl. sent out Rotom-W!

Gliscor used Substitute!
Gliscor made a substitute!

The sandstorm rages!
The foe's Rotom-W is buffeted by the sandstorm!
The foe's Rotom-W restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 11
Pearl. called Rotom-W back!
Pearl. sent out Bronzong!

Gliscor used Swords Dance!
Gliscor's Attack sharply rose!

The sandstorm rages!

Start of turn 12
Gliscor used Acrobatics!
It's not very effective...
Gliscor's Flight Gem raised Acrobatics's power!
The foe's Bronzong lost 61% of its health!

The foe's Bronzong used Hidden Power!
The attack of the foe's Bronzong missed!

The sandstorm rages!
The foe's Bronzong restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 13
Gliscor used Acrobatics!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Bronzong lost 42% of its health!

The foe's Bronzong used Hidden Power!
It's super effective!
Gliscor's substitute faded!

The sandstorm rages!
The foe's Bronzong restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 14
Gliscor used Acrobatics!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Bronzong lost 7% of its health!
The foe's Bronzong fainted!

The sandstorm rages!
Pearl. sent out Rankurusu! (Reuniclus)

Start of turn 15
Gliscor used Substitute!
Gliscor made a substitute!

The foe's Rankurusu used Trick Room!
The foe's Rankurusu twisted the dimensions!

The sandstorm rages!

Start of turn 16
The foe's Rankurusu used Psychic!
The attack of the foe's Rankurusu missed!

Gliscor used Acrobatics!
The foe's Rankurusu lost 94% of its health!

The sandstorm rages!

Start of turn 17
The foe's Rankurusu used Psychic!
The attack of the foe's Rankurusu missed!

Gliscor used Acrobatics!
The foe's Rankurusu lost 5% of its health!
The foe's Rankurusu fainted!

The sandstorm rages!
Pearl. sent out Rotom-W!

Start of turn 18
The foe's Rotom-W used Hydro Pump!
The attack of the foe's Rotom-W missed!

Gliscor used Acrobatics!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Rotom-W lost 62% of its health!

The sandstorm rages!
The foe's Rotom-W is buffeted by the sandstorm!
The foe's Rotom-W restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 19
The foe's Rotom-W used Hydro Pump!
The attack of the foe's Rotom-W missed!

Gliscor used Acrobatics!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Rotom-W lost 37% of its health!
The foe's Rotom-W fainted!

The sandstorm rages!
The twisted dimensions returned to normal!
Pearl. sent out Doryuuzu! (Excadrill)

Start of turn 20
The foe's Doryuuzu used Return!
The attack of the foe's Doryuuzu missed!

Gliscor used Earthquake!
It's super effective!
Pearl.: gg
The foe's Doryuuzu lost 100% of its health!
The foe's Doryuuzu fainted!

The sandstorm rages!
Pearl. sent out Breloom!

wilson46: wow
wilson46: gg

Start of turn 21
Gliscor used Acrobatics!
It's super effective!
The foe's Breloom lost 68% of its health!
The foe's Breloom fainted!

The sandstorm rages!
Pearl. sent out Tyranitar!

Pearl.: it happens lol

Start of turn 22
Gliscor used Earthquake!
It's super effective!
The foe's Tyranitar lost 87% of its health!
The foe's Tyranitar fainted!

wilson46 won the battle!

This first log shows my Gliscor switching in on a Breloom at turn 10. I proceed to set up a Substitute as a Bronzong switches in. Then I set up a Swords Dance to see how much a boosted Acrobatics would do, only to see HP Ice miss thanks to Sand Veil, much to my benefit. I then get to 3hko this Bronzong, with no damage taken besides the cost for the Sub. In comes Reuniclus, and I wanted to Sub to try to avoid its attacks, but instead it uses Trick Room, and it misses two Psychics in a row as I do an astonishing amount of damage with the first Acrobatics allowing me to 2hko him. A Rotom with a lot of speed investment comes to try to both break my sub and kill me Hydro Pumps, but misses twice again as I 2hko it. I win from there as Excadrill and Breloom cannot stand up to the might of this Gliscor.

Start of turn 7
wilson46 called Tyranitar back!
wilson46 sent out Gliscor!

The foe's Dragonite used Substitute!
The foe's Dragonite made a substitute!

The sandstorm rages!
The foe's Dragonite is buffeted by the sandstorm!
The foe's Dragonite restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 8
Gliscor used Substitute!
Gliscor made a substitute!

The foe's Dragonite used Roost!
The foe's Dragonite landed on the ground!
The foe's Dragonite regained health!

The sandstorm rages!
The foe's Dragonite is buffeted by the sandstorm!
The foe's Dragonite restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 9
Gliscor used Swords Dance!
Gliscor's Attack sharply rose!

The foe's Dragonite used Dragon Tail!
A critical hit!
Gliscor's substitute faded!

The sandstorm rages!
The foe's Dragonite is buffeted by the sandstorm!
The foe's Dragonite restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 10
Gliscor used Substitute!
Gliscor made a substitute!

The foe's Dragonite used Dragon Tail!
The attack of the foe's Dragonite missed!

The sandstorm rages!
The foe's Dragonite is buffeted by the sandstorm!
The foe's Dragonite restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 11
Gliscor used Acrobatics!
Gliscor's Flight Gem raised Acrobatics's power!
The foe's Dragonite's substitute faded!

The foe's Dragonite used Dragon Tail!
The attack of the foe's Dragonite missed!

The sandstorm rages!
The foe's Dragonite is buffeted by the sandstorm!
The foe's Dragonite restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 12
Gliscor used Acrobatics!
The foe's Dragonite lost 43% of its health!

The foe's Dragonite used Dragon Tail!
Gliscor's substitute faded!

The sandstorm rages!
The foe's Dragonite is buffeted by the sandstorm!
The foe's Dragonite restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 13
Gliscor used Acrobatics!
The foe's Dragonite lost 56% of its health!
The foe's Dragonite fainted!

The sandstorm rages!
Melee Mewtwo sent out Porygon2!
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Porygon2!

The foe's Porygon2 traced Gliscor's Sand Veil!

Start of turn 14
Gliscor used Substitute!
Gliscor made a substitute!

The foe's Porygon2 used Ice Beam!
The attack of the foe's Porygon2 missed!

The sandstorm rages!

Start of turn 15
Gliscor used Acrobatics!
The foe's Porygon2 lost 52% of its health!

The foe's Porygon2 used Ice Beam!
It's super effective!
Gliscor's substitute faded!

The sandstorm rages!
Melee Mewtwo: oh that was why
Melee Mewtwo: sand viel lol

Start of turn 16
Gliscor used Acrobatics!
The foe's Porygon2 lost 22% of its health!
The foe's Porygon2 fainted!

The sandstorm rages!
Melee Mewtwo sent out Gliscor!
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Gliscor!

Start of turn 17
Gliscor used Acrobatics!
The foe's Gliscor lost 66% of its health!

The foe's Gliscor used Facade!
A critical hit!
Gliscor lost 75 HP! (25% of its health)
Gliscor fainted!

The sandstorm rages!
The foe's Gliscor's Toxic Orb activated!
The foe's Gliscor was poisoned!
wilson46 sent out Excadrill!

Start of turn 18
Melee Mewtwo called Gliscor back!
Melee Mewtwo sent out Metagross!
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Metagross!

Excadrill used Rock Slide!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Metagross lost 14% of its health!
Excadrill is hurt by its Life Orb!

The sandstorm rages!
The foe's Metagross restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
Melee Mewtwo: any suggestions for my team so far.
Melee Mewtwo: ?

Start of turn 19
Melee Mewtwo called Metagross back!
Melee Mewtwo sent out Gliscor!
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Gliscor!

Excadrill used Earthquake!
It had no effect!

The sandstorm rages!
The foe's Gliscor restored HP using its Poison Heal!

Start of turn 20
Melee Mewtwo called Gliscor back!
Melee Mewtwo sent out Forretress!
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Forretress!

Excadrill used Rock Slide!
The foe's Forretress lost 26% of its health!
Excadrill is hurt by its Life Orb!

The sandstorm rages!
The foe's Forretress restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 21
Excadrill used Swords Dance!
Excadrill's Attack sharply rose!

The foe's Forretress used Rapid Spin!
It's not very effective...
Excadrill lost 10 HP! (2% of its health)
The foe's Forretress blew away Stealth Rock!

The sandstorm rages!
The foe's Forretress restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 22
Melee Mewtwo called Forretress back!
Melee Mewtwo sent out Metagross!

Excadrill used Rock Slide!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Metagross lost 30% of its health!
Excadrill is hurt by its Life Orb!

The sandstorm rages!
The foe's Metagross restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 23
Excadrill used Earthquake!
It's super effective!
The foe's Metagross lost 60% of its health!
The foe's Metagross fainted!
Excadrill is hurt by its Life Orb!

The sandstorm rages!
Melee Mewtwo sent out Gliscor!

Start of turn 24
Excadrill used Rock Slide!
The foe's Gliscor lost 20% of its health!
The foe's Gliscor fainted!
Excadrill is hurt by its Life Orb!

The sandstorm rages!

This match shows my Gliscor switching into a ParaShuffler Dragonite, setting a Sub and an SD as it tries to Dragon Tail, but in the end I kill it and come out alive from a fight with Porygon 2. One of its Ice Beams miss and I 2hko that. Next I weaken his own Gliscor greatly with Acrobatics doing 66% to it, and you can later see that Excadrill comes in and cleans up.

Start of turn 10
The foe's Salamence used Roost!
The foe's Salamence landed on the ground!
The foe's Salamence regained health!

Gliscor used Substitute!
Gliscor made a substitute!

The sandstorm rages!
The foe's Salamence is buffeted by the sandstorm!

Start of turn 11
CREEPERAWRUS called Salamence back!
CREEPERAWRUS sent out Jirachi!
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Jirachi!

Gliscor used Swords Dance!
Gliscor's Attack sharply rose!

The sandstorm rages!
The foe's Jirachi restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 12
Gliscor used Earthquake!
It's super effective!
The foe's Jirachi lost 100% of its health!
The foe's Jirachi fainted!

The sandstorm rages!
CREEPERAWRUS sent out Latias!
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Latias!

Start of turn 13
The foe's Latias used Dragon Pulse!
Gliscor's substitute faded!

Gliscor used Substitute!
Gliscor made a substitute!

The sandstorm rages!
The foe's Latias is buffeted by the sandstorm!
The foe's Latias restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 14
The foe's Latias used Dragon Pulse!
Gliscor's substitute faded!

Gliscor used Acrobatics!
Gliscor's Flight Gem raised Acrobatics's power!
The foe's Latias lost 87% of its health!
The foe's Latias fainted!

The sandstorm rages!
CREEPERAWRUS sent out Salamence!
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Salamence!

The foe's Salamence intimidates Gliscor!
Gliscor's Attack fell!

Start of turn 15
The foe's Salamence used Roost!
The foe's Salamence landed on the ground!
The foe's Salamence regained health!

Gliscor used Acrobatics!
The foe's Salamence lost 97% of its health!

The sandstorm rages!
The foe's Salamence is buffeted by the sandstorm!
The foe's Salamence fainted!
CREEPERAWRUS sent out Haxorus!
Pointed stones dug into the foe's Haxorus!

The foe's Haxorus has Mold Breaker!

Start of turn 16
The foe's Haxorus used Outrage!
Gliscor lost 147 HP! (50% of its health)
Gliscor fainted!

The sandstorm rages!
The foe's Haxorus is buffeted by the sandstorm!
wilson46 sent out Excadrill!

Start of turn 17
Excadrill used Earthquake!
The foe's Haxorus lost 81% of its health!
The foe's Haxorus fainted!
Excadrill is hurt by its Life Orb!

The sandstorm rages!

In this match, the opponent does not know what to do against this Gliscor in the start, sending in Jirachi as fodder. However, I Sub up against his -4 SpA Mence and set up a Swords Dance on the switch, and kill Jirachi. Latias comes in to break my sub but gets killed in the process. Salamence comes in after to roost up predicting my switch since I am vulnerable without a sub out and I am only at +1, but to my opponent's dismay, +1 Acrobatics does 97% and the sandstorm finishes him off.

Start of turn 37
The foe's Excadrill used Rock Slide!
Rotom-W lost 77 HP! (25% of its health)
Rotom-W fainted!

The sandstorm rages!
wilson46 sent out Gliscor!

Start of turn 38
The foe's Excadrill used Swords Dance!
The foe's Excadrill's Attack sharply rose!

Gliscor used Acrobatics!
It's not very effective...
Gliscor's Flight Gem raised Acrobatics's power!
The foe's Excadrill lost 57% of its health!
The foe's Excadrill's Air Balloon popped!

The sandstorm rages!

Start of turn 39
The foe's Excadrill used Rock Slide!
Gliscor lost 145 HP! (49% of its health)

Gliscor used Earthquake!
It's super effective!
The foe's Excadrill lost 33% of its health!
The foe's Excadrill fainted!

wilson46 won the battle!
The Doldrums: Good Game

Short log here, Gliscor really doesn't do much until endgame, where I stop an Excadrill from sweeping by breaking its balloon with Acrobatics, tanking a +2 Rock Slide very well and finishing with Earthquake.

Battle between wilson46 and pl0x started!

Tier: BW OU
Variation: +11, -20
Rule: Rated
Rule: Sleep Clause
Rule: Species Clause
Rule: Wifi Battle

pl0x sent out Tyranitar!
wilson46 sent out Gliscor!
The foe's Tyranitar's Sand Stream whipped up a sandstorm!
pl0x: fml

Start of turn 1
Gliscor used Substitute!
Gliscor made a substitute!

The foe's Tyranitar used Stealth Rock!
Pointed stones float in the air around wilson46's team!

The sandstorm rages!

Start of turn 2
pl0x called Tyranitar back!
pl0x sent out Gliscor!

Gliscor used Swords Dance!
Gliscor's Attack sharply rose!

The sandstorm rages!
The foe's Gliscor's Toxic Orb activated!
The foe's Gliscor was poisoned!

Start of turn 3
Gliscor used Acrobatics!
Gliscor's Flight Gem raised Acrobatics's power!
The foe's Gliscor lost 94% of its health!

The foe's Gliscor used Ice Fang!
It's super effective!
Gliscor's substitute faded!

The sandstorm rages!
The foe's Gliscor restored HP using its Poison Heal!

Start of turn 4
The foe's Gliscor used Protect!
The foe's Gliscor protected itself!

Gliscor used Substitute!
Gliscor made a substitute!

The sandstorm rages!
The foe's Gliscor restored HP using its Poison Heal!

Start of turn 5
Gliscor used Acrobatics!
The foe's Gliscor lost 29% of its health!
The foe's Gliscor fainted!

The sandstorm rages!
pl0x sent out Ferrothorn!

Start of turn 6
Gliscor used Acrobatics!
The foe's Ferrothorn lost 74% of its health!
The foe's Ferrothorn's Iron Barbs hurts Gliscor

The foe's Ferrothorn used Power Whip!
The attack of the foe's Ferrothorn missed!

The sandstorm rages!
The foe's Ferrothorn restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 7
Gliscor used Acrobatics!
The foe's Ferrothorn lost 32% of its health!
The foe's Ferrothorn's Iron Barbs hurts Gliscor
The foe's Ferrothorn fainted!

The sandstorm rages!
pl0x sent out Excadrill!

The foe's Excadrill is floating on a balloon!

Start of turn 8
The foe's Excadrill used Rock Slide!
Gliscor's substitute faded!

Gliscor used Acrobatics!
It's not very effective...
The foe's Excadrill lost 66% of its health!
The foe's Excadrill's Air Balloon popped!

The sandstorm rages!

Start of turn 9
The foe's Excadrill used Rock Slide!
Gliscor lost 75 HP! (25% of its health)
Gliscor fainted!

The sandstorm rages!
wilson46 sent out Rotom-W!
Pointed stones dug into Rotom-W!

Start of turn 10
pl0x called Excadrill back!
pl0x sent out Tyranitar!

Rotom-W used Hydro Pump!
It's super effective!
The foe's Tyranitar lost 32% of its health!

The sandstorm rages!
Rotom-W is buffeted by the sandstorm!
Rotom-W restored a little HP using its Leftovers!
The foe's Tyranitar restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 11
Rotom-W used Volt Switch!
The foe's Tyranitar lost 10% of its health!
wilson46 called Rotom-W back!
wilson46 sent out Excadrill!
Pointed stones dug into Excadrill!

The foe's Tyranitar used Crunch!
It's not very effective...
Excadrill lost 87 HP! (24% of its health)

The sandstorm rages!
The foe's Tyranitar restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 12
pl0x called Tyranitar back!
pl0x sent out Thundurus!

Excadrill used Earthquake!
It had no effect!

The sandstorm rages!
The foe's Thundurus is buffeted by the sandstorm!
The foe's Thundurus restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

Start of turn 13
Excadrill used Rock Slide!
It's super effective!
The foe's Thundurus lost 100% of its health!
The foe's Thundurus fainted!
Excadrill is hurt by its Life Orb!

The sandstorm rages!
pl0x sent out Excadrill!

Start of turn 14
The foe's Excadrill used Earthquake!
It's super effective!
Excadrill lost 228 HP! (62% of its health)
Excadrill fainted!

The sandstorm rages!
wilson46 sent out Rotom-W!
Pointed stones dug into Rotom-W!

Start of turn 15
The foe's Excadrill used Rock Slide!
Rotom-W lost 80 HP! (26% of its health)

Rotom-W used Hydro Pump!
It's super effective!
The foe's Excadrill lost 33% of its health!
The foe's Excadrill fainted!

The sandstorm rages!
Rotom-W is buffeted by the sandstorm!
Rotom-W restored a little HP using its Leftovers!

This time my opponent only had 5 pokemon for whatever reason, but I do 94% to the opposing Gliscor with a gem boosted Acrobatics, 2hko it. I also kill Ferrothorn in the process as it misses a Power Whip and do some nice damage to the Excadrill.

tl;dr A great set that's worth my approval.
 
<Lord_Liam> I'm calling this right now
<Lord_Liam> this is going to be a new trend
<TFC> wait wat
<Lord_Liam> and there's going to be a whole bunch of fuss about this
<Lord_Liam> calling it right here
<Lord_Liam> it'll be like LC

Ok, I can also vouch for that set's effectiveness after testing it out for a while. As far as partners go, CM Celebi definitely deserves a mention for being able to work as a lure for Skarmory, Bronzong, and Latios, all of which can give this set major problems if left unchecked (Celebi also synergizes with Gliscor defensively very well!).
 
yeah i've played it a couple times and it's an impressive set. if you want to write it al_alchemist be my guest since it's your set, but if not i can put it together at some point
 
Is protect a better option on Gliscor?


No, Fling set just sucks that much

i know that now. i was retarded then. and protect is a good option if you want a sure fire poison heal/hp gain, but swords dance and taunt are normally the preferred options just because he is a physical wall / wallbreaker. and even without the extra hp gain he can wall most physical attackers without problem.

its viable, but its dependent how much your team needs taunt
 
May I ask this, but why the hell I we using the 252 HP / 184 Def / 72 Spe spread? Gliscor’s main function is to take physical hits right? So wouldn’t 220 HP / 216 Def / 72 Spe be the optimal spread, it maximizes physical bulk after the speed ev “loss.” Either that or the Smogon defense calculator is wrong, or for some reason Gliscor needs those extra HP evs to take some special hit that I am not aware of. Can someone explain this?
 
May I ask this, but why the hell I we using the 252 HP / 184 Def / 72 Spe spread? Gliscor’s main function is to take physical hits right? So wouldn’t 220 HP / 216 Def / 72 Spe be the optimal spread, it maximizes physical bulk after the speed ev “loss.” Either that or the Smogon defense calculator is wrong, or for some reason Gliscor needs those extra HP evs to take some special hit that I am not aware of. Can someone explain this?

As a rule, it's almost always best to max out HP on defensive pokes unless there is a MASSIVE discrepancy between HP and defenses (i.e. Wobbuffet). Gliscor's defense is high and its HP is low, so it's most efficient to take EVs out of defense rather than HP.
 
to add numbers to the above: CB Hax Outrage maxes out at 76.27% on 252/184 gliscor and 76.3% on 220/216 Gliscor. Theoretically the 220/216 spread actually is ideal, but gliscors hp and def are so close that whatever would be gained by it is basically negligible compared to the bulk lost against special attacks.
 
Why doesn't Rock Polish get a mention? The element of surprise can really aid sometimes. And even if it doesn't surprise, the fact that you will out speed a lot of more pokes at +2 isn't exactly useless.
 
^ is there any reason to use rock polish over agility? female dw gligar has been released, right?

but that would require an agility mention somewhere...perhaps beside baton pass and swords dance in OO?
 
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