Team D-Day [WiFi]

Team D-Day
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D-Day: a term often used in military parlance to denote the day on which a combat attack or operation is to be initiated.

Hello, and welcome to my RMT. The goal of the game is to remove steel types from Dragonite’s way, as you will find out later he doesn’t care too much about bulky waters. The goal of this team is to show people that Dragonite has so much more potential then expected. I will be using him in a way that he is not out-classed by his cousin, Salamence. We all know that everyone (not including me) is ready to banish the guy to Ubers anyway; at that point the abandoned Dragon will shine.
While conducting this team I had a few goals in mind,
-An effective yet surprising lead
-A team based around a dragon sweep
-Light Screen and Reflect support for my dragon
-A physical and special team
-Wish Support
All of these roles have been fulfilled by my team. As one member uses one of the Five goals, I will put that goal in its description.
I would also like to mention that this is a WiFi team,
Now that Pokemon.Marriland is back, I will present my team resistance chart,
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This is something that I am proud of, but it isn’t the best in the world. I have 2 resists to everything bar electric, ghost, and dark. I am not even weak to Ghost and Dark so I’m not worried about that. I only have 4 types with 2 separate pokes weak to it. Every member has at least one immunity, making switching in quite easy. For my ice I have 3 resistances to it. My down side on this is only one resistance/immunity to electric…and that’s my lead. :\ On a side not please read the descriptions too if you are going to rate.
Well now that you have a background, here is the team under the microscope:
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Ankylosaur
Torterra @ Occa Berry
Ability: Overgrow
EVs: 252 Atk, 220 SAtk, 36 SDef
Nature: Naughty
- Stealth Rock
- Leaf Storm
- Earthquake
- Rock Slide

“An effective yet Surprising Lead”
Here is something I was hopping for. One of the goals of my team was a lead with the ‘what the heck?!’ factor. I found this beastly set on the creative move sets forum, credits go to Delko for this amazing find. Shockingly it deals quite well with the top leads out there, with a possible chance to OHKO 7 of the ten most common leads. When people see this, there first thought is that it has all physical moves…big mistake. Leaf Storm is huge in this set, and the ‘what the heck factor?!’ is even bigger. I hope this is Torterra’s way of becoming OU. I always wondered why people never used him; he has great typing with bulky yet hard hitting stats. He has more team support than most leads. While most aim for simply eliminating other leads and setting up, he is my crucial electric immunity. It means Gyarados won’t have such a hard time and he can come in on a thunder wave. From what I can tell the EV’s are all offense, but just enough bulk to take an Occa Berry Overheat from Heatran, and I can retaliate with Earthquake. From the post Delko also posted how to deal with leads…here it is
Nicknamed Ankylosaur because he looks like a dinosaur and I forgot which one…so I googled it.

What to do against opposing leads:

Heatran: Earthquake = 186.4% - 219.8% (with Shucka Berry = 93.2% - 109.9%)
Infernape: Earthquake = 144% - 170%
Metagross: Earthquake = 69.2% - 81.3%
Roserade: Earthquake = 97.7% - 115.3%
Jirachi: Earthquake = 88.1% - 103.6%
Azelf: Leaf Storm = 80.4% - 94.8%
Hippowdon: Leaf Storm = 85.7% - 101.4%
Smeargle: Leaf Storm = 114.3% - 134.5%
Swampert: Leaf Storm = 167.3% - 197%
Aerodactyl: Rock Slide = 74.8% - 88.7%
Dragonite: Rock Slide = 51.9% - 61.1%

What can those leads do in return:

Heatran: Fire Blast = 72.5% - 85.5%, Overheat = 84.6% - 99.7%
Infernape: Fake Out = 9.4% - 11.2% + Fire Blast: 61.9% - 73.4% (11,2 + 73,4 < 100 = NOT 2HKO)
Metagross: Meteor Mash = 52.9% - 62.5%
Roserade: Hidden Power (fire) = 27.5% - 32.6%
Jirachi: Fire Punch = 19.9% - 23.6%, Iron Head = 31.7% - 37.5%
Azelf: Fire Blast = 47.1% - 55.6%
Hippowdon: Earthquake = 17.2% - 20.2%
Swampert: Ice Beam* = 88.2% - 105.1%, Waterfall = 27.2% - 32.6%
Aerodactyl: Earthquake = 13.6% - 16%, Ice Fang = 71.3% - 84.6%
Dragonite: Fire Blast = 57.4% - 67.7% , Draco Meteor = 100% - 118.1%







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Leviathan
Gyarados @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 156 Hp / 136 Atk / 74 Def / 100 Spe
Nature: Adamant
- Dragon Dance
- Taunt
- Waterfall
- Stone Edge

“A physical and special attack team.”
Beast. That is all you need to say about this, but for your sake and to further explain my team, I will expand a bit. I come in after a faint or on a predicted attack, and Dragon Dance. I am now faster than a +Nature base 100 pokemon. That means I can taunt Salamence before he sets up, or limit the Spikes of a Skarmory, and saving yourself from a +1 Outrage coming off of a 135 base attack can save your life. Not only, but he make a great early game sweeper. In fact it is rare when this Sea Beast doesn’t pull off a kill or two. Striking neutral with STAB on the ever so common steel types is just one more amazing feature. I can’t remember the purpose of the EV’s because I found this set at least a year ago. From what I remember it remains bulky with more emphasis on attack than speed. I decided not to use bounce because what Celebi is going to stay around for a +1 super effective hit? Celebi can be dealt with through other ways on my team. His team role is my opening sweeper and taunter. Rock attacks thrown at him can go to Torterra or Bronzong. Electric goes to Torterra. Nicknamed Leviathan because it matches the Bible’s description. Fire Breathing (Fire Blast) ocean dwelling, and spears cannot even puncture its skin.




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Droid
Bronzong @ Light Clay
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 152 Atk / 8 Def / 96 SpD
Nature: Relaxed
- Gyro Ball
- Light Screen
- Reflect
- Explosion

“Light Screen and Reflect support for my dragon.”
I now reveal Dragonite’s secret weapon…Screens! How this helps him is to be told later, but there isn’t any way this is bad, as it can only help my sweepers. Reflect is nice for Heatran trying to take in nasty Earthquakes, and it is crucial for my Dragonite. More of that later, but Gyarados usually sweeps before I reveal this. I try to have Magnezone out of my way, but I will set up then Explode my way out of there. Gyro Ball is for an attacking move should I be taunted. His job is to Screen up, then either switch out or Explode. I normally switch out to save him for another time once my screen coat wears off. Depending which sweeper comes in depends on the screen I use first. If Dragonite is on deck, I always Light Screen first. If Heatran is coming around, I reflect. I do this incase I can’t get my next screen up. Fire attacks aimed at him go straight to Heatran for a boost, which makes him a huge threat to opponents. The EV’s are for max Hit Points while boosting Explosion power. The rest go to trying to help me get my screens up. The item is pretty obvious. He is nicknamed Droid because one he reminds me of the phone somehow and two he gets his job done simply and effectively.




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CaveFlame
Heatran @ Passho Berry(Water resistant berry)
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 6 Hp / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Nature: Timid
- Fire Blast
- Earth Power
- HP Electric
- Explosion
“A physical and special attack team”
Yes, this isn’t a ScarfTran for several reasons. One is that I hate how he can pull off a kill but he is locked into a move the opponent resists. That forces a switch, making me nothing but setup fodder. Should something set up, I can roar them out of there, forcing a sweeper to face stealth rocks again. He serves as my special sweeper. Although Explosion may sound a bit better, I didn’t want to sacrifice 10% of his marvelous defenses to a move that kills you. Fire Blast and Earth Power are obvious. HP Electric for Gyarados, and remember this is WiFi, and by luck I got a Timid Heatran with HP electric 64 :). There isn’t a whole lot to say about this Cave Dweller, as I have already explained my use of roar. Synergy wise he fits the bill, as he switches in on Bronzong’s Fire problems. At the same time Bronzong deals with the nasty quakes that Heatran despises. This synergy was discovered through this team, and it works out quite well. The expert belt is my key to destroying steel types. I start spamming Earth Powers until they fall for the bait thinking I’m scarfed. and bring a Skarmory in to set up. Then I simply fire off my Fire Blast proceeding to remove Skarmory from Dragonite’s way. He is my undercover steel remover. The reasoning behind his nickname is lives in a cave and he spits out Flames.




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Aquarius
Vaporeon @ Leftovers
Ability: Water Absorb
EVs: 252 Hp / 252 Def / 4 SpA
Nature: Bold
- Wish
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Protect
“Wish Support”
This is the last thing in line before Salamence’s sweep. Come in, wish up, and get out. That’s her one and only role on my team. If you’re a little confused on how this ends up going…here it is
-Ryan switched in Droid (Bronzong)
-Droid used Light Screen/Reflect
-Droid used Reflect/Light Screen
-Ryan switched in Aquarius (Vaporeon)
-Aquarius used Wish
-Ryan switch in Salamence
So after everything is said and done, once of my screens had four turns and the other five, leaving me plenty of time to get the momentum started. But more on that later, now how Aquarius fits in the team. I used Vaporeon over Blissey for this role on a few reasons. 1-Vappy has much higher attacking qualities than Blissey does (110vs75). 2-Vaporeon has better typing for a slight offensive base. 3-Vappy Ice beam guaranties a OHKO on Dragons, bar 248/0 Adamant Dragonite. Not only but this water pup can take a +1 life orb Outrage from a Salamence. The reason I bring Vaporeon in before Dragonite is to ensure the removal of stealth rock weakness with having a spot on the team only for spinning. It also cushions the hit that Dragonite takes from the incoming attack. Leftovers to keep me in the field longer. Aquarius not only helps Dragonite, but is nice for Heatran and Gyarados as well, as Gyara is weak to rocks as well. Also, with the EV's I use, I can always take a +1 Outrage from a Nieve Salamence and retaliate to OHKO, making Vaporeon a nice switch in to it after a KONicknamed Aquarius because Vaporeon is a water type and Aqua being water in ancient Latin. Also Aquari sounds like Aquarium.

I am wondering if this is necessary for my team. When rating, please advise me is a status absorber would be better here. When recommending a Pokemon, please take synergy into factor.


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Dragonaut
Dragonite @ Life Orb
Ability: Inner Focus
Evs: 248 HP / 56 Atk / 204 Spe
Nature: Adamant
- Dragon Dance
- Outrage/Dragon Claw
- Earthquake
- Roost
“A team based around a dragon sweep”
This is the inner core of the entire team. This spot was originally filled by a Salamence, but after taking a visit to Stark Mountain and seeing all of the People ready to ban Dragonite's cousin, I figured it would save me some time to get used to life without him on my team. It's pretty textbook. Come in on a resist after receiving wish support + screens, and Dragon Dance away. With screens, I try to pull of 3 DD's but that's no easy task. I normally settle for two before beginning my sweep. I can't decide to go for Outage or Dragon Claw...as the power difference is huge, which is why at the moment I am running Outrage. It is annoying to not be able to Roost on Demand, but being the major sweeper, the power is nice. For those curious, this set is not outclassed by Salamence, if you look at the Ev's, they are from the bulky DDnite set.



How the Team Came to BE
First I wasnted to show the community the power of Dragonite!
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Next I wanted a tank that had screens and massive synergy...Bronzong
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Now I needed wish support to complete my core trio...Vaporeon had the best synergy
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Then I wanted a Physical Sweeper that could carry out the duty to taunt...Which lead to bulky gyara
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I then went after the special sweeper who could fit the synergy Heatran. Gyra and Bron and Dragonite take the quakes and Heatran takes any fire hazards with pleasure
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Last but not least, a surprising yet effectie lead. This lead to Delko's Torterra
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Well, there is my most recent team. With Latias gone I kow there are big changes ahead, and by posting here I hope to gain some insite on how to adjust my team. Thank you for your time, patience, and consideration.


Sprites came from Pokesho.com (Dragonite from HG/SS, Vaporeon from Platinum)
The type pics cam from this link http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/File:[***Type Desired***]IC_Big.png (get ride of brackets)
Item sprites from http://archives.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Category:Bag_sprites
Resistance chart from http://pokemon.marriland.com/diamond_pearl/team_builder/









Testing...
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Swampert @ Leftovers
Ability: Torrent
Evs: 252 HP / 4 Spe / 252 Def
Nature: Relaxed
- Stealth Rock
- Roar
- Ice Beam
- Earthquake

testing
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hi, i use the exact same dragonite as you, and i chose dragon claw over outrage, i dont like outrage as it locks you into the move for 2-3 turns, so with dragon claw you can still roost, or use earthquake. give dragon claw a try and see how it goes for you :)

rate my team please :)
 
Its a nice team but you have slight issues with specs Jolt, Offensive Suicune and Taunt Gyarados. I suggest a Swampert over Torrterra as it can handle many leads that you altready handle but can also roar out any pokemon that attempt to set up on you. It also lacks a huge Ice Weakness like Torrterra does. I also think that a CM+ Wish Jirachi (provided you have access to one) over Vaporeon is very usefull as it still heals your team members and can also set up while handling waters with Thunderbolt. it also loves screans as it makes it far easier for it to set up.

I don't really play Wi-fi so I hope that the advice I gave helped you.

Have a Nice Day!
 
I really like your Torterra lead but I think it needs a couple of changes for it to be more effective. First of all I suggest you change its nature to Brave, then change its spread to 144 Hp/ 252 Atk/ 76 SpA/ 36 Speed. With this spread Toterra still outspeeds Swampert and, 2HKO's Hippowdon and Azelf with Leaf Storm while retaining the same Attack and gaining a considerable amount of bulk.

Next up Heatran. I really don't see the point of roar on an attacking spread. So swap out Roar for either Dragon pulse or Explosion. Dragon pulse is useful because it allows you to hit Dragonite, Kingdra and Salamence for very high amounts of damage, and really would make sense on this set because you have no other real way of hitting them hard. Explosion, the other move that could be used in the last slot also hits the threats I mentioned before exteremly hard. But also allows you to kill off Blissey which would be incredible easy to do seeing as you are bluffing the Choice Scarf.

And finally in the last slot I think Dragonite should be swapped out for Mence. DD Mence is just much better than DD nite. Don't get me wrong I love using Nite when it has advantages over Mence, but unfortunately this set does not.
Salamence @ Life Orb
Jolly
Intimidate
4 Hp/ 252 Atk/ 252 Speed
Dragon Dance
Outrage
Earthquake
Roost/ Dragon Claw

Anyway that is my rate. Good luck with the team.
 
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Actually the current Dragonite set has its advantages over your dragonite set. Mainly because under screans Dragonite can set up DD much easier and does not fear Scizor unlike your mence set. This dragonite is mean't to take hits and set up, your listed Mence set looks outclassed by the normal DD mence set since you are running the same EVs
 
@199 Lives

Actually the current Dragonite set has its advantages over your dragonite set. Mainly because under screans Dragonite can set up DD much easier and does not fear Scizor unlike your mence set. This dragonite is mean't to take hits and set up, your listed Mence set looks outclassed by the normal DD mence set since you are running the same EVs

It is the standard DD Mence set.

Also you can put Fire Blast in Mences last spot to beat Skarmory and Forretress, something that Dragonite would struggle to do.
 
Ah yes I thought it was but it had been my belief that the standard DD mence runs Fire Blast and that was lacking before.

Also my above comment still stands as it does not fear scizor can can better check pokemon such as Lucario and co better than the salamence can. The Salamence DD set and the Dragonite DD set play in different ways to avoid Dragonite being outclassed by Salamence. Thr current Dragonite set urun by the OP is not outclassed by Salamence since Salamence lacks the bulk to mimick this set.

Have a Nice Day!
 
ginganinja: Thank you for your rate. I would also like to thank you for taking synergy into play when switching members out.

I am considering switching Torterra out for Swampert, but Swampert doesn't near have the surprise factor that Torterra does, not only but Torterra packs a special attack, even more surprising. I will consider it, but I am hoping for something with a surprise.

I also like Jirachi and having a Gyarados counter is all the more better, especially to TauntGyara. I'll look into it. But wouldn't Vaporeon handle the Offensive Suicune better with 130/95 special defence? Oh, and, I also have to make sure I have access to one.

199 Lives: Thank you as well for your rate. Roar is nice for handling the scout part of my team, but should I go with Swampert I will be quick to go with Dragon Pulse>Roar. A counter to Salamence locked into Outrage is always nice.

For Torterra, if you looked at the stats below it, I have the potential to OHKO Hipowdon, and the bulk isn't needed because only Swampert and Dragonite have even the potential to OHKO me.

For Salamence, I will not use him. I don't want to get used to him only for him to be banned soon anyway. And the reason I use Dragonite is because Screens + Dragonite's bulk works wonders, and should I get 2 DD's in, I outpace a +1 Salamence and choice scarf Jirachi, something a +1 Salamence can't do. And If you read my goal of the team it was to show that Dragonite is more than he is given credit for, and is not outclassed. The set I run is entirely different as well
Dragonaut
Dragonite @ Life Orb
Ability: Inner Focus
Evs: 248 HP / 56 Atk / 204 Spe
Nature: Adamant
- Dragon Dance
- Outrage/Dragon Claw
- Earthquake
- Roost
Salamence has all attacking ev's, and would never even consider Dragon Claw, as well as usually running a Naive nature. This set's goal is to highlight Dragonite bulk to allow it to set up two DD's
 
I got your PM, so here goes:

I like the team, but because I read that you're testing Swampert, I do see Swampert having the chance to keep MixMence down. Swampert KOs MixMence once Stealth Rock and Ice Beam are on it. It's a good check against it, otherwise, this team is pretty good. Good synergy with Swampert and Heatran and Heatran just eats Grass- attacks like a fucking champ. I hope if you breeded Bronzong, it's Speed IV's are at least below 4 or 5, as Gyro Ball hits even Tyranitar really hard too.

Sadly enough Heatran has 64 base damage on HP Electric, but with Expert Belt it has the power to OHKO Gyarados of any versions, hit Suicune relatively harder, etc.

Also, run 4 Speed EVs to win Mirror Match Roar's with Swampert. It makes it easier for you to scout the enemy teams before you know what you want to switch in, or attack. Good team, and good luck.
 
The reason that Vaporeon does not protect you from SUicune is that you lack HP Electric. Suicune can freely CM up while vaporeon does nothing to threaten Suicune. SUicune then kills you with HP Electric. WHile HP Electric can help if Vaporeon carries it you wouuld lose the coverage on Dragons with Vaporeon and you may have to hatch a really good Vaporeon.

Have a Nice Day!
 
Ginganinja: As it turns out, I have no access to a legal Jirachi, what should I do from here? But wouldn't Heatran do a good for Suicune that comes in?
 
Hm if you're going to use a swampert over torterra maybe give vaporion Toxic over ice beam to help against other water types that would switch in on it
 
Hello

Love the Torterra set. ^^

Torterra lures out Ice attack so you can take them out before you bring in Dragonite. Torterra will also lure out Fire attacks so Heatran can get a boost in.

I think Roar doesn't really suit Heatran with Expert Belt. But since you want to punish set up sweepers who are using Heatran as set-up-bait you could go with Explosion. Instead of Roar'ing them out you'll kill them. This will also allow you to deal effectively with Blissey who can come in and spawn some T-waves. You might want to use a Naive nature and put those 6 HP EV's in Atk.

Love the team and good luck.
 
In regards to Suicuine you could run HP Electric on Vaporeon or a Passho Berry on Heatran to survive a surf and then explode. They are the logical quite fixs that I suggest to help your team without changing it too much.
 
Ok, since I can't get Jirachi without hacking I gave my Heatran Passho berry and explosion. The nature I can't change because this is Wifi, and I don't want to have to go through everything to get another HP Electric.

*Thank you all for your comments and suggestions as they have helped me a lot :]*
 
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