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Corphish (Analysis)
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Quite a few problems found, there are probably more but I can't quite seem to pin them down. I've also added a number of critiques where your reasoning is not very clear, and would like an explanation if possible.
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[Overview]
<p>Corphish is one of the most unexpected uncommon Pokemon in Little Cup. It has a good Attack stat, though its poor Speed stat is disappointing. Corphish also has a good Defense stat, along with an average HP stat, allowing it to take physical hits easier comfortably. All in all, Corphish is a rather average Pokemon, but it has a niche in the fast-paced Little Cup metagame: It it has access to Crunch, which gives it an advantage over Krabby, as it can hit Ghost-types super effectively. Do not expect too much from Corphish, as Croagunk, the premier priority abuser of Little Cup, walks all over it.</p>
[SET]
name: Dragon Dance
move 1: Dragon Dance
move 2: Waterfall
move 3: Return
move 4: Crunch
item: Life Orb / Oran Berry
ability: Shell Armor
nature: Jolly
evs: 196 Atk / 76 Def / 236 Spe
ivs: 0 HP
[Set Comments]
<p>Corphish hits 14 Speed with +Spe a Jolly nature unboosted, allowing it to outpace all un-Scarfed Pokemon in Little Cup after a Dragon Dance. Waterfall is for STAB, and Return provides solid neutral coverage. Crunch is what sets it apart from Krabby, as it hits Ghosts who switch in to a predicted Return [I'd just like to ask, what difference does Crunch actually make? Specifically, what does a super effective Crunch OHKO that a STAB +1 Waterfall won't? I would have thought it wouldn't make much difference on Gastly. If Corphish can OHKO Duskull/Drifloon, and Krabby can't, then make sure you say so]. After a single Dragon Dance, Corphish hits 25 Attack backed by a Life Orb and 21 Speed. With this raw power, Corphish destroys a lot of the metagame with its assortment of attacks. Gligar is OHKOed regardless of its set, which is a testament to how powerful Corphish can be if it is set up properly. Corphish can also OHKO Munchlax 29% of the time after one Dragon Dance. [Maybe mention Stealth Rock here? If it lets Corphish OHKO Munchlax it should be mentioned in damage calcs]The thing that plagues Corphish worries about the most, however, is priority; a Mild natured Croagunk with 188 SpA EVs takes over half of Corphish's HP with Vacuum Wave. Gligar is OHKOed regardless of its set, which is a testament to how powerful Corphish can be if it is set up properly. Corphish can also OHKO Munchlax 29% of the time with one Dragon Dance, though a 2HKO is guaranteed.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>Corphish can rip holes in your opponent's team once priority users and Scarfers Choice Scarf Pokemon are out of the way. X-Scissor and Rock Slide sound great on this set, but Corphish just can't afford the moveslots, as all of its moves the moves already on the set are very important. Brick Break is another option to counter deal extra damage to opponents such as Snover and Munchlax. Corphish appreciates Stealth Rock support for breaking Focus Sash and chipping away at the opponent's HP.</p>
<p>Corphish packs a few perks over Dragon Dance Barboach and Totodile; Barboach keels over to any sort of Grass-type attack, while Corphish has only a 2x weakness, reducing their impact [What Grass-type attack does Corphish not die to?]. Corphish stars as a late-game sweeper, which is where we can compare it to Totodile. Assuming that all priority users and Scarfers have been eliminated, we can see that Corphish has a higher Attack stat, enabling it to do more damage. This is important for a late game cleanup Against Totodile, Corphish has the benefit of a higher Attack stat, which enables it to do more damage, and as such is arguably more effective if all priority users and Choice Scarf Pokemon have been eliminated. As a bonus, it has Shell Armor over the other two, ensuring a critical hit won't prematurely end your sweep.</p>
<p>Hidden Power Psychic Croagunk, Hidden Power Flying Mantyke, and Gligar are good partners as they destroy opposing Croagunk, which is Corphish's main check. Also, Shellder can help with Rapid Spin, and a good lead for Stealth Rock goes a long way in helping Corphish. In terms of support, Shellder is a good choice to Rapid Spin away entry hazards. You will also want a Pokemon who can set up entry hazards of your own. Pineco is good as it can be used as a lead, and has access to both Rapid Spin and Stealth Rock, without sharing the same weaknesseses as Shellder. [I'm confused, what's the point of mentioning Shellder when it doesn't really help Corphish (Rapid Spin isn't that great), has the same typing as Corphish, and is essentially inferior to Pineco?]</p>
[SET]
name: Swords Dance
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Waterfall
move 3: Crunch
move 4: Return
item: Life Orb
ability: Shell Armor
nature: Jolly
evs: 196 Atk / 76 Def / 236 Spe
ivs: 0 HP
[Set Comments]
<p>Corphish gets excellent coverage with Waterfall, Crunch, and Return. The 0 HP IV gives 19 HP, which means Corphish only takes 1 point of damage from the recoil of Life Orb. After a Swords Dance, Corphish reaches a mind-blowing Attack stat of 34. With proper support, this Corphish can rip apart teams. Once again, priority is a problem, but that is solved to an extent by Baton Passing it a Substitute. This is a powerful late-game sweeper.</p>
<p>Speed is the only problem for this set Low Speed and a weakness to priority are this Corphish's main problems when attempting to obtain a sweep. Corphish's low Speed stat, and while it is quite crippling,(remove) it can be fixed by proper team support. This set works extremely well against the rare stall teams as they usually have slow Pokemon such as Munchlax and Bronzor, against whom Speed is not an issue. Corphish is able to set up on them and then do some sweeping. On the other hand, offense teams seem to make Corphish cry. If Corphish manages to get a Swords Dance up, it usually scores only a single KO at most because of its terrible Speed. Another unfortunate piece of news is that very few people use stall teams in Little Cup, which means that it will be hard for Corphish to set up on anything.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>This is probably Corphish's most devastating set, but it definitely needs team support. Rapid Spin and Stealth Rock are helpful for minimizing damage to Corphish, and breaking Focus Sash. Sadly, Corphish is held back by its mediocre 14 Speed. This can be fixed by Baton Passing it a Substitute (optional, as it gives it a safe Swords Dance behind the Substitute) and an Agility (giving it 28 Speed, enough to rip through teams at a blistering pace). Gligar is great at this, due to its access to Agility, Substitute, and Baton Pass. Aipom can also do this well.</p>
<p>Once again, Croagunk is a problem for weakened Corphish due to Fake Out and Vacuum Wave. Hidden Power Psychic Croagunk is a good partner to take out opposing Croagunk. While this looks like a poor man's Krabby, Corphish has a better (but nevertheless still poor) Special Defense stat than it, allowing it to take Croagunk's Vacuum Wave and other special moves slightly better. Also, it has Crunch, which deals more damage to Ghost-types than Crabhammer [Again, elaborate]. The Swords Dance set appreciates Stealth Rock and Rapid Spin support, however, it also needs some Baton Passed Speed (preferably from behind a Substitute) in order to sweep. Gligar is a good teammate for Swords Dance Corphish, since it can pass it Speed boosts and KO opposing Croagunk, its Corphish's biggest threat.</p>
[SET]
name: Choice Scarf
move 1: Waterfall
move 2: Crunch
move 3: Return
move 4: Brick Break / Rock Slide
item: Choice Scarf
ability: Shell Armor
nature: Jolly
evs: 12 HP / 196 Atk / 236 Spe
[Set Comments]
<p>Corphish reaches the magical number 14 in its Speed stat, allowing it to use a Choice Scarf effectively. This set doesn't pack as much power as the others, but has good revenge killing potential. This set can hit everything in Little Cup at least neutrally; as usual, Waterfall is a good STAB move, Crunch is a hard hitting coverage move, and Return pairs well with Waterfall. The last slot is a filler, where you can choose what bonus hits you want Corphish to achieve. Rock Slide coves Flying-types, while Brick Break covers Dark-types, also 2HKOing Snover. Superpower is an outside choice for hit-and-run tactics, but it is not recommended due to the difficulty of bringing Corphish in without suffering a lot of damage.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>This Corphish set needs Stealth Rock support to help revenge kill, due to its relatively low unboosted Attack stat. Again, Croagunk can do a lot of damage with Fake Out + Vacuum Wave, thus necessitating your own Croagunk with Hidden Power Psychic. However, unlike the Swords Dance set, this Corphish doesn't need Baton Passed Speed, freeing up a slot on your team. Mantyke is a good Croagunk check who can be placed in this slot. Corphish generally requires the same team support for most of its sets; Stealth Rock, Rapid Spin, and Hidden Power Psychic Croagunk are handy regardless of the moveset.</p>
[Team Options]
<p>A good partner to pair with Corphish is Dratini; Dratini resists both of Corphish's weaknesses,(remove) (Electric and Grass) while Corphish can switch into Ice type-attacks. Corphish also has good synergy with bulky Pokémon such as Bronzor. A Pokémon that can set up Stealth Rock is not essential, but is still preferred as Corphish could basically KO basically anything that has taken damage before an attack has been made. Corphish doesn't have the best Defense particularly good bulk, so a spinner would also be nice to help improve its survival rate.</p>
[Optional Changes]
<p>Choice Band sounds viable, but Corphish is so slow that it essentially gives your opponent free turns. Besides, the Dragon Dance and Sword Swords Dance sets are vastly superior to Choice Band.</p>
<p>A specially-based set sounds good, but it is walled by Munchlax, who will inevitably come in when the surprise is revealed. Payback is outclassed by Crunch, as Corphish can't take a hit anyway. Protect is good for scouting, but has no place on Corphish's sets. Superpower is another option, but the Attack drops are unwelcome. Waterfall could be used in replace of Crabhammer, but won't OHKO Munchlax, the same goes for Knock Off [This needs fixing, as Waterfall is recommended on all sets, so this sentence is no longer true]. A mixed sweeper set is also a viable option, since Corphish gets many good special attacks such as Ice Beam, Sludge Bomb, and STAB Surf, and Superpower can be used too as Corphish has a little extra defense to spare.</p>
[Counters]
<p>Croagunk is the best counter to Corphish, being able to switch in on Waterfall with impunity, and use Fake Out followed by Vacuum Wave for massive damage. However, it should beware of Return as it OHKOs the Dragon Dance and Sword Dance sets, and 2HKOs the Choice Scarf and Double Dance sets. [This sentence makes literally no sense whatsoever]</p>
<p>The sets that need setup are stopped by Croagunk and Dratini, while the Choice Scarf set requires prediction, and can be taken advantage of when Corphish is locked on the wrong move. Crabhammer Waterfall is an entry hole for Croagunk, Return allows Gastly in to set up a Substitute, while Crunch and Rock Slide are setup fodder for Rock Polish Aron. All of these Pokemon become dangerous if given a free turn, and must be played around carefully. All of these Pokemon, as well as others, can easily set up on Corphish while you have to switch out.</p>
<p>Corphish is one of the most unexpected uncommon Pokemon in Little Cup. It has a good Attack stat, though its poor Speed stat is disappointing. Corphish also has a good Defense stat, along with an average HP stat, allowing it to take physical hits easier comfortably. All in all, Corphish is a rather average Pokemon, but it has a niche in the fast-paced Little Cup metagame: It it has access to Crunch, which gives it an advantage over Krabby, as it can hit Ghost-types super effectively. Do not expect too much from Corphish, as Croagunk, the premier priority abuser of Little Cup, walks all over it.</p>
[SET]
name: Dragon Dance
move 1: Dragon Dance
move 2: Waterfall
move 3: Return
move 4: Crunch
item: Life Orb / Oran Berry
ability: Shell Armor
nature: Jolly
evs: 196 Atk / 76 Def / 236 Spe
ivs: 0 HP
[Set Comments]
<p>Corphish hits 14 Speed with +Spe a Jolly nature unboosted, allowing it to outpace all un-Scarfed Pokemon in Little Cup after a Dragon Dance. Waterfall is for STAB, and Return provides solid neutral coverage. Crunch is what sets it apart from Krabby, as it hits Ghosts who switch in to a predicted Return [I'd just like to ask, what difference does Crunch actually make? Specifically, what does a super effective Crunch OHKO that a STAB +1 Waterfall won't? I would have thought it wouldn't make much difference on Gastly. If Corphish can OHKO Duskull/Drifloon, and Krabby can't, then make sure you say so]. After a single Dragon Dance, Corphish hits 25 Attack backed by a Life Orb and 21 Speed. With this raw power, Corphish destroys a lot of the metagame with its assortment of attacks. Gligar is OHKOed regardless of its set, which is a testament to how powerful Corphish can be if it is set up properly. Corphish can also OHKO Munchlax 29% of the time after one Dragon Dance. [Maybe mention Stealth Rock here? If it lets Corphish OHKO Munchlax it should be mentioned in damage calcs]The thing that plagues Corphish worries about the most, however, is priority; a Mild natured Croagunk with 188 SpA EVs takes over half of Corphish's HP with Vacuum Wave. Gligar is OHKOed regardless of its set, which is a testament to how powerful Corphish can be if it is set up properly. Corphish can also OHKO Munchlax 29% of the time with one Dragon Dance, though a 2HKO is guaranteed.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>Corphish can rip holes in your opponent's team once priority users and Scarfers Choice Scarf Pokemon are out of the way. X-Scissor and Rock Slide sound great on this set, but Corphish just can't afford the moveslots, as all of its moves the moves already on the set are very important. Brick Break is another option to counter deal extra damage to opponents such as Snover and Munchlax. Corphish appreciates Stealth Rock support for breaking Focus Sash and chipping away at the opponent's HP.</p>
<p>Corphish packs a few perks over Dragon Dance Barboach and Totodile; Barboach keels over to any sort of Grass-type attack, while Corphish has only a 2x weakness, reducing their impact [What Grass-type attack does Corphish not die to?]. Corphish stars as a late-game sweeper, which is where we can compare it to Totodile. Assuming that all priority users and Scarfers have been eliminated, we can see that Corphish has a higher Attack stat, enabling it to do more damage. This is important for a late game cleanup Against Totodile, Corphish has the benefit of a higher Attack stat, which enables it to do more damage, and as such is arguably more effective if all priority users and Choice Scarf Pokemon have been eliminated. As a bonus, it has Shell Armor over the other two, ensuring a critical hit won't prematurely end your sweep.</p>
<p>Hidden Power Psychic Croagunk, Hidden Power Flying Mantyke, and Gligar are good partners as they destroy opposing Croagunk, which is Corphish's main check. Also, Shellder can help with Rapid Spin, and a good lead for Stealth Rock goes a long way in helping Corphish. In terms of support, Shellder is a good choice to Rapid Spin away entry hazards. You will also want a Pokemon who can set up entry hazards of your own. Pineco is good as it can be used as a lead, and has access to both Rapid Spin and Stealth Rock, without sharing the same weaknesseses as Shellder. [I'm confused, what's the point of mentioning Shellder when it doesn't really help Corphish (Rapid Spin isn't that great), has the same typing as Corphish, and is essentially inferior to Pineco?]</p>
[SET]
name: Swords Dance
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Waterfall
move 3: Crunch
move 4: Return
item: Life Orb
ability: Shell Armor
nature: Jolly
evs: 196 Atk / 76 Def / 236 Spe
ivs: 0 HP
[Set Comments]
<p>Corphish gets excellent coverage with Waterfall, Crunch, and Return. The 0 HP IV gives 19 HP, which means Corphish only takes 1 point of damage from the recoil of Life Orb. After a Swords Dance, Corphish reaches a mind-blowing Attack stat of 34. With proper support, this Corphish can rip apart teams. Once again, priority is a problem, but that is solved to an extent by Baton Passing it a Substitute. This is a powerful late-game sweeper.</p>
<p>Speed is the only problem for this set Low Speed and a weakness to priority are this Corphish's main problems when attempting to obtain a sweep. Corphish's low Speed stat, and while it is quite crippling,(remove) it can be fixed by proper team support. This set works extremely well against the rare stall teams as they usually have slow Pokemon such as Munchlax and Bronzor, against whom Speed is not an issue. Corphish is able to set up on them and then do some sweeping. On the other hand, offense teams seem to make Corphish cry. If Corphish manages to get a Swords Dance up, it usually scores only a single KO at most because of its terrible Speed. Another unfortunate piece of news is that very few people use stall teams in Little Cup, which means that it will be hard for Corphish to set up on anything.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>This is probably Corphish's most devastating set, but it definitely needs team support. Rapid Spin and Stealth Rock are helpful for minimizing damage to Corphish, and breaking Focus Sash. Sadly, Corphish is held back by its mediocre 14 Speed. This can be fixed by Baton Passing it a Substitute (optional, as it gives it a safe Swords Dance behind the Substitute) and an Agility (giving it 28 Speed, enough to rip through teams at a blistering pace). Gligar is great at this, due to its access to Agility, Substitute, and Baton Pass. Aipom can also do this well.</p>
<p>Once again, Croagunk is a problem for weakened Corphish due to Fake Out and Vacuum Wave. Hidden Power Psychic Croagunk is a good partner to take out opposing Croagunk. While this looks like a poor man's Krabby, Corphish has a better (but nevertheless still poor) Special Defense stat than it, allowing it to take Croagunk's Vacuum Wave and other special moves slightly better. Also, it has Crunch, which deals more damage to Ghost-types than Crabhammer [Again, elaborate]. The Swords Dance set appreciates Stealth Rock and Rapid Spin support, however, it also needs some Baton Passed Speed (preferably from behind a Substitute) in order to sweep. Gligar is a good teammate for Swords Dance Corphish, since it can pass it Speed boosts and KO opposing Croagunk, its Corphish's biggest threat.</p>
[SET]
name: Choice Scarf
move 1: Waterfall
move 2: Crunch
move 3: Return
move 4: Brick Break / Rock Slide
item: Choice Scarf
ability: Shell Armor
nature: Jolly
evs: 12 HP / 196 Atk / 236 Spe
[Set Comments]
<p>Corphish reaches the magical number 14 in its Speed stat, allowing it to use a Choice Scarf effectively. This set doesn't pack as much power as the others, but has good revenge killing potential. This set can hit everything in Little Cup at least neutrally; as usual, Waterfall is a good STAB move, Crunch is a hard hitting coverage move, and Return pairs well with Waterfall. The last slot is a filler, where you can choose what bonus hits you want Corphish to achieve. Rock Slide coves Flying-types, while Brick Break covers Dark-types, also 2HKOing Snover. Superpower is an outside choice for hit-and-run tactics, but it is not recommended due to the difficulty of bringing Corphish in without suffering a lot of damage.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>This Corphish set needs Stealth Rock support to help revenge kill, due to its relatively low unboosted Attack stat. Again, Croagunk can do a lot of damage with Fake Out + Vacuum Wave, thus necessitating your own Croagunk with Hidden Power Psychic. However, unlike the Swords Dance set, this Corphish doesn't need Baton Passed Speed, freeing up a slot on your team. Mantyke is a good Croagunk check who can be placed in this slot. Corphish generally requires the same team support for most of its sets; Stealth Rock, Rapid Spin, and Hidden Power Psychic Croagunk are handy regardless of the moveset.</p>
[Team Options]
<p>A good partner to pair with Corphish is Dratini; Dratini resists both of Corphish's weaknesses,(remove) (Electric and Grass) while Corphish can switch into Ice type-attacks. Corphish also has good synergy with bulky Pokémon such as Bronzor. A Pokémon that can set up Stealth Rock is not essential, but is still preferred as Corphish could basically KO basically anything that has taken damage before an attack has been made. Corphish doesn't have the best Defense particularly good bulk, so a spinner would also be nice to help improve its survival rate.</p>
[Optional Changes]
<p>Choice Band sounds viable, but Corphish is so slow that it essentially gives your opponent free turns. Besides, the Dragon Dance and Sword Swords Dance sets are vastly superior to Choice Band.</p>
<p>A specially-based set sounds good, but it is walled by Munchlax, who will inevitably come in when the surprise is revealed. Payback is outclassed by Crunch, as Corphish can't take a hit anyway. Protect is good for scouting, but has no place on Corphish's sets. Superpower is another option, but the Attack drops are unwelcome. Waterfall could be used in replace of Crabhammer, but won't OHKO Munchlax, the same goes for Knock Off [This needs fixing, as Waterfall is recommended on all sets, so this sentence is no longer true]. A mixed sweeper set is also a viable option, since Corphish gets many good special attacks such as Ice Beam, Sludge Bomb, and STAB Surf, and Superpower can be used too as Corphish has a little extra defense to spare.</p>
[Counters]
<p>Croagunk is the best counter to Corphish, being able to switch in on Waterfall with impunity, and use Fake Out followed by Vacuum Wave for massive damage. However, it should beware of Return as it OHKOs the Dragon Dance and Sword Dance sets, and 2HKOs the Choice Scarf and Double Dance sets. [This sentence makes literally no sense whatsoever]</p>
<p>The sets that need setup are stopped by Croagunk and Dratini, while the Choice Scarf set requires prediction, and can be taken advantage of when Corphish is locked on the wrong move. Crabhammer Waterfall is an entry hole for Croagunk, Return allows Gastly in to set up a Substitute, while Crunch and Rock Slide are setup fodder for Rock Polish Aron. All of these Pokemon become dangerous if given a free turn, and must be played around carefully. All of these Pokemon, as well as others, can easily set up on Corphish while you have to switch out.</p>
Quite a few problems found, there are probably more but I can't quite seem to pin them down. I've also added a number of critiques where your reasoning is not very clear, and would like an explanation if possible.
Thank you bugmaniacbob. those changes have been made and explanations have been included. I am awaiting my 2nd GP check.
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I hate to say it, but this is going to require a third GP check, especially for prose work. I had to mostly focus on picking up typoes and grammar errors in this one.
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[Overview]
<p>Corphish is one of the most uncommon Pokemon in Little Cup. It has a good Attack stat, though its poor Speed stat is disappointing. Corphish also has a good Defense stat, along with an average HP stat, allowing it to take physical hits comfortably. All in all, Corphish is a rather average Pokemon, but it has a niche in the fast-paced Little Cup metagame: it has access to Crunch, which gives it an advantage over Krabby, as it can hit Ghost-types super effectively. Do not expect too much from Corphish, as Croagunk, the premier priority abuser of Little Cup, walks all over it.</p>
[SET]
name: Dragon Dance
move 1: Dragon Dance
move 2: Waterfall
move 3: Return
move 4: Crunch
item: Life Orb / Oran Berry
ability: Shell Armor
nature: Jolly
evs: 196 Atk / 76 Def / 236 Spe
ivs: 0 HP
[Set CommentsSET COMMENTS]
<p>Corphish hits 14 Speed with a Jolly nature unboosted, allowing it to outpace all un-Scarfed Pokemon in Little Cup after a Dragon Dance. Waterfall is for STAB, and Return provides solid neutral coverage. Crunch is what sets it Corphish apart from Krabby, as it hits crushes Ghosts who switch in to a predicted Return. Also, without a single Dragon Dance, Corphsih Corphish can OHKO Duskull with a SE super effective Crunch, unlike Krabby's Crabhammer. After a single Dragon Dance, Corphish hits 25 Attack backed by a Life Orb and 21 Speed. With this raw power, Corphish destroys a lot of the metagame with its assortment of attacks. Gligar is ohkoOHKOed regardless of its set, which is a testament to how powerful Corphish can be if it is set up properly. Corphish can also OHKO Munchlax 29% of the time after one Dragon Dance with Waterfall. If Munchlax is hit with has taken prior damage from Stealth Rock, Corphish can easily 2HKO a weakened Munchlax. The thing that plagues Corphish the most, however, is priority; a Mild natured Croagunk with 188 spa SpA evEVs takes over half of Corphish's HP with Vacuum Wave.(backspace)</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>Corphish can rip holes in your opponent's team once priority users and Choice Scarf Pokemon are out of the way. X-Scissor and Rock Slide sound great on this set, but Corphish just can't afford the moveslots, as all of the moves already on the set are very important. Brick Break is another option to deal extra damage to opponents such as Snover and Munchlax. Corphish appreciates Stealth Rock support for breaking Focus Sash and chipping away at the opponent's HP.</p>
<p>Corphish packs a few perks over Dragon Dance Barboach and Totodile; Barboach keels over to any sort of Grass-type attack, while Corphish has only a 2x weakness, reducing their impact, even though it won't matter most of the time, since Corphsih's spd Corphish's Special Defense is still fairly low. Corphish stars as a late-game sweeper, which is where we can compare it to Totodile. Against Totodile, Corphish has the benefit of a higher Attack stat, which enables it to do more damage, and as such is arguably more effective if all priority users and Choice Scarf Pokemon have been eliminated. As a bonus, it has Shell Armor over the other two, ensuring a critical hit won't prematurely end your Corphish's sweep.</p>
<p>Hidden Power Psychic Croagunk, Hidden Power Flying Mantyke, and Gligar are good partners as they destroy opposing Croagunk, which is Corphish's main check. In terms of support, Pineco is a good choice to Rapid Spin away entry hazards. You will also want a Pokemon who can set up entry hazards of your own. Pineco is good at this as well, as it can be used as a lead.</p>
[SET]
name: Swords Dance
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Waterfall
move 3: Crunch
move 4: Return
item: Life Orb
ability: Shell Armor
nature: Jolly
evs: 196 Atk / 76 Def / 236 Spe
ivs: 0 HP
[Set Comments SET COMMENTS]
<p>Corphish gets excellent coverage with Waterfall, Crunch, and Return. The 0 HP IV gives 19 HP, which means Corphish only takes 1 point of damage from the recoil of Life Orb. (move to AC) After a Swords Dance, Corphish reaches a mind-blowing Attack stat of 34. With proper support, this Corphish can rip apart teams. Once again, priority is a problem, but that is solved to an extent by Baton Passing it a Substitute. Waterfall, Crunch, and Return are the token attacks, and together, have excellent coverage in tandem with each other.(backspace) </p>
<p>Low Speed and a weakness to priority are this Corphish's main problems when attempting to obtain a sweep. Corphish's low Speed stat, while quite crippling can be fixed by proper team support. This set works extremely well against the rare stall teams, (comma) as they usually have slow Pokemon such as Munchlax and Bronzor, against whom Speed is not an issue. Corphish is able to set up on them and then do some sweeping. On the other hand, offense teams make Corphish cry. If Corphish manages to get a Swords Dance up, it usually scores only a single KO at most because of its terrible Speed. Another unfortunate piece of news is that very few people use stall teams in Little Cup, which means that it will be hard for Corphish to set up on anything.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>This is probably Corphish's most devastating set, but it definitely needs team support. Rapid Spin and Stealth Rock are helpful for minimizing damage to Corphish, and for breaking the enemy's Focus Sash. Sadly, Corphish is held back by its mediocre 14 Speed. This can be fixed by Baton Passing it a Substitute (this is optional, as but it gives it Corphish a safe Swords Dance behind the Substitute) and an Agility (giving it 28 Speed, enough to rip through teams at a blistering pace). Gligar is great at this, due to its access to Agility, Substitute, and Baton Pass. Aipom can also do this well.</p>
<p>Once again, Croagunk is a problem for weakened Corphish due to Fake Out and Vacuum Wave. Hidden Power Psychic Croagunk is a good partner to take out opposing Croagunk. While Corphsih Corphish looks like a poor man's Krabby, Corphish has a better (but nevertheless still poor) Special Defense stat, allowing it to take Croagunk's Vacuum Wave and other special moves slightly better. Also, it has Crunch, which deals more damage to Ghost-types than Waterfall. The Swords Dance set appreciates Stealth Rock and Rapid Spin support, however, it also needs some Baton Passed Speed (preferably from behind a Substitute) in order to sweep. Gligar is a good teammate for Swords Dance Corphish, since it can pass it Speed boosts and KO opposing Croagunk, Corphish's biggest threat. Here are some damage calculations to demonstrate Corphish's power:</p>
<ul class="damage_calculation">
<li> Corphish Crunch vs. 196 (space) HP / 36 (space) Def Relaxed Duskull: 104.8% - 133.3% (100% chance of OHKO) <li>
<li> Corphish Crunch vs. 116 (space) HP / 8 (space) Def Drifloon: 140.7% - 170.4% (100% chance of OHKO) <li>
<li> Corphish Waterfall vs. 196 (space) HP / 36 (space) Def Relaxed Duskull: 76.2% - 100% (16% chance of OHKO) <li>
<li> Corphish Waterfall vs. 116 (space) HP / 8 (space) Def Drifloon: 103.7% - 125.9% (100% chance of OHKO) <li>
</ul>
(What are these damage calcs representing? A Swords Dance boosted attack, or simply a LO attack? That needs to be specified.)
[SET]
name: Choice Scarf
move 1: Waterfall
move 2: Crunch
move 3: Return
move 4: Brick Break / Rock Slide
item: Choice Scarf
ability: Shell Armor
nature: Jolly
evs: 12 HP / 196 Atk / 236 Spe
[Set Comments SET COMMENTS]
<p>Corphish reaches the magical number 14 in its Speed stat, allowing it to use a Choice Scarf effectively. This set doesn't pack as much power as the others, but it does has good revenge killing potential. This set can hit everything in Little Cup at least neutrally for at least neutral damage; as usual, Waterfall is a good STAB move, Crunch is a hard hitting coverage move, and Return pairs well with Waterfall. The last slot is a filler, where you can choose what bonus hits you want Corphish to achieve. Rock Slide coves Flying-types, while Brick Break covers Dark-types, and it also 2hkoing 2HKOes Snover. Superpower is an outside choice for hit-and-run tactics, but it is not recommended due to the difficulty of bringing Corphish in without suffering a lot of damage.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>This Corphish set needs Stealth Rock support to help revenge kill, due to its relatively low unboosted Attack stat. Again, Croagunk can do a lot of damage with Fake Out + Vacuum Wave, thus necessitating your own Croagunk with Hidden Power Psychic. However, unlike the Swords Dance set, this Corphish doesn't need Baton Passed Speed, freeing up a slot on your team. Mantyke is a good Croagunk check who can be placed in this slot. </p>
[Team Options]
[Optional Changes]
<p>Slapping a Choice Band on Corphish sounds viable, but Corphish is so slow that it essentially gives your opponent free turns. Besides, the Dragon Dance and Swords Dance sets are vastly superior to Choice Band.</p>
<p>A specially-based set sounds good, but it is walled by Munchlax, who will inevitably come in when the surprise is revealed. Payback is outclassed by Crunch, as Corphish can't take a hit anyway. Protect is good for scouting, but has no place on Corphish's sets. Superpower is another option, but the Attack drops are unwelcome. A mixed sweeper set is also a viable option, since Corphish gets many good special attacks, (comma) such as Ice Beam, Sludge Bomb, and STAB Surf.</p>
[Counters]
<p>Croagunk is the best counter to Corphish, being able to switch in on Waterfall with impunity, and use Fake Out followed by Vacuum Wave for massive damage. However, it should beware of Return as it gets ohkoed OHKOed by the Dragon Dance and Sword Dance sets, and 2hkoed 2HKOed by the Choice Scarf set.(backspace) </p>
<p>The sets that need setup are stopped by Croagunk and Dratini, while the Choice Scarf set requires prediction, and can be taken advantage of when Corphish is locked in on the wrong move. Waterfall is an entry hole for Croagunk, Return allows Gastly in to set up a Substitute, while Crunch and Rock Slide are setup fodder for Rock Polish Aron. All of these Pokemon become dangerous if given a free turn, and must be played around carefully. All of these Pokemon, as well as others, can easily set up on Corphish while you have to switch out.</p>
<p>Corphish is one of the most uncommon Pokemon in Little Cup. It has a good Attack stat, though its poor Speed stat is disappointing. Corphish also has a good Defense stat, along with an average HP stat, allowing it to take physical hits comfortably. All in all, Corphish is a rather average Pokemon, but it has a niche in the fast-paced Little Cup metagame: it has access to Crunch, which gives it an advantage over Krabby, as it can hit Ghost-types super effectively. Do not expect too much from Corphish, as Croagunk, the premier priority abuser of Little Cup, walks all over it.</p>
[SET]
name: Dragon Dance
move 1: Dragon Dance
move 2: Waterfall
move 3: Return
move 4: Crunch
item: Life Orb / Oran Berry
ability: Shell Armor
nature: Jolly
evs: 196 Atk / 76 Def / 236 Spe
ivs: 0 HP
[Set CommentsSET COMMENTS]
<p>Corphish hits 14 Speed with a Jolly nature unboosted, allowing it to outpace all un-Scarfed Pokemon in Little Cup after a Dragon Dance. Waterfall is for STAB, and Return provides solid neutral coverage. Crunch is what sets it Corphish apart from Krabby, as it hits crushes Ghosts who switch in to a predicted Return. Also, without a single Dragon Dance, Corphsih Corphish can OHKO Duskull with a SE super effective Crunch, unlike Krabby's Crabhammer. After a single Dragon Dance, Corphish hits 25 Attack backed by a Life Orb and 21 Speed. With this raw power, Corphish destroys a lot of the metagame with its assortment of attacks. Gligar is ohkoOHKOed regardless of its set, which is a testament to how powerful Corphish can be if it is set up properly. Corphish can also OHKO Munchlax 29% of the time after one Dragon Dance with Waterfall. If Munchlax is hit with has taken prior damage from Stealth Rock, Corphish can easily 2HKO a weakened Munchlax. The thing that plagues Corphish the most, however, is priority; a Mild natured Croagunk with 188 spa SpA evEVs takes over half of Corphish's HP with Vacuum Wave.(backspace)</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>Corphish can rip holes in your opponent's team once priority users and Choice Scarf Pokemon are out of the way. X-Scissor and Rock Slide sound great on this set, but Corphish just can't afford the moveslots, as all of the moves already on the set are very important. Brick Break is another option to deal extra damage to opponents such as Snover and Munchlax. Corphish appreciates Stealth Rock support for breaking Focus Sash and chipping away at the opponent's HP.</p>
<p>Corphish packs a few perks over Dragon Dance Barboach and Totodile; Barboach keels over to any sort of Grass-type attack, while Corphish has only a 2x weakness, reducing their impact, even though it won't matter most of the time, since Corphsih's spd Corphish's Special Defense is still fairly low. Corphish stars as a late-game sweeper, which is where we can compare it to Totodile. Against Totodile, Corphish has the benefit of a higher Attack stat, which enables it to do more damage, and as such is arguably more effective if all priority users and Choice Scarf Pokemon have been eliminated. As a bonus, it has Shell Armor over the other two, ensuring a critical hit won't prematurely end your Corphish's sweep.</p>
<p>Hidden Power Psychic Croagunk, Hidden Power Flying Mantyke, and Gligar are good partners as they destroy opposing Croagunk, which is Corphish's main check. In terms of support, Pineco is a good choice to Rapid Spin away entry hazards. You will also want a Pokemon who can set up entry hazards of your own. Pineco is good at this as well, as it can be used as a lead.</p>
[SET]
name: Swords Dance
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Waterfall
move 3: Crunch
move 4: Return
item: Life Orb
ability: Shell Armor
nature: Jolly
evs: 196 Atk / 76 Def / 236 Spe
ivs: 0 HP
[Set Comments SET COMMENTS]
<p>Corphish gets excellent coverage with Waterfall, Crunch, and Return. The 0 HP IV gives 19 HP, which means Corphish only takes 1 point of damage from the recoil of Life Orb. (move to AC) After a Swords Dance, Corphish reaches a mind-blowing Attack stat of 34. With proper support, this Corphish can rip apart teams. Once again, priority is a problem, but that is solved to an extent by Baton Passing it a Substitute. Waterfall, Crunch, and Return are the token attacks, and together, have excellent coverage in tandem with each other.(backspace) </p>
<p>Low Speed and a weakness to priority are this Corphish's main problems when attempting to obtain a sweep. Corphish's low Speed stat, while quite crippling can be fixed by proper team support. This set works extremely well against the rare stall teams, (comma) as they usually have slow Pokemon such as Munchlax and Bronzor, against whom Speed is not an issue. Corphish is able to set up on them and then do some sweeping. On the other hand, offense teams make Corphish cry. If Corphish manages to get a Swords Dance up, it usually scores only a single KO at most because of its terrible Speed. Another unfortunate piece of news is that very few people use stall teams in Little Cup, which means that it will be hard for Corphish to set up on anything.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>This is probably Corphish's most devastating set, but it definitely needs team support. Rapid Spin and Stealth Rock are helpful for minimizing damage to Corphish, and for breaking the enemy's Focus Sash. Sadly, Corphish is held back by its mediocre 14 Speed. This can be fixed by Baton Passing it a Substitute (this is optional, as but it gives it Corphish a safe Swords Dance behind the Substitute) and an Agility (giving it 28 Speed, enough to rip through teams at a blistering pace). Gligar is great at this, due to its access to Agility, Substitute, and Baton Pass. Aipom can also do this well.</p>
<p>Once again, Croagunk is a problem for weakened Corphish due to Fake Out and Vacuum Wave. Hidden Power Psychic Croagunk is a good partner to take out opposing Croagunk. While Corphsih Corphish looks like a poor man's Krabby, Corphish has a better (but nevertheless still poor) Special Defense stat, allowing it to take Croagunk's Vacuum Wave and other special moves slightly better. Also, it has Crunch, which deals more damage to Ghost-types than Waterfall. The Swords Dance set appreciates Stealth Rock and Rapid Spin support, however, it also needs some Baton Passed Speed (preferably from behind a Substitute) in order to sweep. Gligar is a good teammate for Swords Dance Corphish, since it can pass it Speed boosts and KO opposing Croagunk, Corphish's biggest threat. Here are some damage calculations to demonstrate Corphish's power:</p>
<ul class="damage_calculation">
<li> Corphish Crunch vs. 196 (space) HP / 36 (space) Def Relaxed Duskull: 104.8% - 133.3% (100% chance of OHKO) <li>
<li> Corphish Crunch vs. 116 (space) HP / 8 (space) Def Drifloon: 140.7% - 170.4% (100% chance of OHKO) <li>
<li> Corphish Waterfall vs. 196 (space) HP / 36 (space) Def Relaxed Duskull: 76.2% - 100% (16% chance of OHKO) <li>
<li> Corphish Waterfall vs. 116 (space) HP / 8 (space) Def Drifloon: 103.7% - 125.9% (100% chance of OHKO) <li>
</ul>
(What are these damage calcs representing? A Swords Dance boosted attack, or simply a LO attack? That needs to be specified.)
[SET]
name: Choice Scarf
move 1: Waterfall
move 2: Crunch
move 3: Return
move 4: Brick Break / Rock Slide
item: Choice Scarf
ability: Shell Armor
nature: Jolly
evs: 12 HP / 196 Atk / 236 Spe
[Set Comments SET COMMENTS]
<p>Corphish reaches the magical number 14 in its Speed stat, allowing it to use a Choice Scarf effectively. This set doesn't pack as much power as the others, but it does has good revenge killing potential. This set can hit everything in Little Cup at least neutrally for at least neutral damage; as usual, Waterfall is a good STAB move, Crunch is a hard hitting coverage move, and Return pairs well with Waterfall. The last slot is a filler, where you can choose what bonus hits you want Corphish to achieve. Rock Slide coves Flying-types, while Brick Break covers Dark-types, and it also 2hkoing 2HKOes Snover. Superpower is an outside choice for hit-and-run tactics, but it is not recommended due to the difficulty of bringing Corphish in without suffering a lot of damage.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>This Corphish set needs Stealth Rock support to help revenge kill, due to its relatively low unboosted Attack stat. Again, Croagunk can do a lot of damage with Fake Out + Vacuum Wave, thus necessitating your own Croagunk with Hidden Power Psychic. However, unlike the Swords Dance set, this Corphish doesn't need Baton Passed Speed, freeing up a slot on your team. Mantyke is a good Croagunk check who can be placed in this slot. </p>
[Team Options]
Be sure to add specific examples please. Don't just say "a spinner is nice", provide examples.
[Optional Changes]
<p>Slapping a Choice Band on Corphish sounds viable, but Corphish is so slow that it essentially gives your opponent free turns. Besides, the Dragon Dance and Swords Dance sets are vastly superior to Choice Band.</p>
<p>A specially-based set sounds good, but it is walled by Munchlax, who will inevitably come in when the surprise is revealed. Payback is outclassed by Crunch, as Corphish can't take a hit anyway. Protect is good for scouting, but has no place on Corphish's sets. Superpower is another option, but the Attack drops are unwelcome. A mixed sweeper set is also a viable option, since Corphish gets many good special attacks, (comma) such as Ice Beam, Sludge Bomb, and STAB Surf.</p>
[Counters]
<p>Croagunk is the best counter to Corphish, being able to switch in on Waterfall with impunity, and use Fake Out followed by Vacuum Wave for massive damage. However, it should beware of Return as it gets ohkoed OHKOed by the Dragon Dance and Sword Dance sets, and 2hkoed 2HKOed by the Choice Scarf set.(backspace) </p>
<p>The sets that need setup are stopped by Croagunk and Dratini, while the Choice Scarf set requires prediction, and can be taken advantage of when Corphish is locked in on the wrong move. Waterfall is an entry hole for Croagunk, Return allows Gastly in to set up a Substitute, while Crunch and Rock Slide are setup fodder for Rock Polish Aron. All of these Pokemon become dangerous if given a free turn, and must be played around carefully. All of these Pokemon, as well as others, can easily set up on Corphish while you have to switch out.</p>
I hate to say it, but this is going to require a third GP check, especially for prose work. I had to mostly focus on picking up typoes and grammar errors in this one.
GP 2/3
Thank you Oglemi. Those changes have been made. I am now awaiting my third GP check.
bumping this thread for my last GP check.
bumping for my last GP check
2/3? Eh, whatever..
why are there are so many random, floating sentences? O_O
EDIT:
yeah, this isn't official..
Changes in bold
Removals in red
Comments in bold red
[Overview]
<p>Corphish is one of the most uncommon Pokemon in Little Cup. It has a good physical stats, but disappointingly poor Speed and average HP stats that undermine them is disappointing. It doesn't help that Croagunk, the premier priority abuser in LC, walks all over it either. Corphish also has a good Defense stat, along with an average HP stat, allowing it to take physical hits comfortably. All in all, Corphish is a rather average Pokemon, but it has a niche in the fast-paced Little Cup metagame: However, Corphish's access to both Dragon Dance and Crunch give it an advantage over Krabby as a physical Water-type, allowing it to boost both its Attack and Speed simultaneously, and hit Ghost-types super effectively. All in all, you should not expect too much from Corphish, as it is still a rather average Pokemon, but you should know that it isn't without its niche Croagunk, the premier priority abuser of Little Cup, walks all over it.</p>
[SET]
name: Dragon Dance
move 1: Dragon Dance
move 2: Waterfall
move 3: Return
move 4: Crunch
item: Life Orb / Oran Berry
ability: Shell Armor
nature: Jolly
evs: 196 Atk / 76 Def / 236 Spe
ivs: 0 HP
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>Corphish, unboosted, hits 14 Speed with a Jolly nature unboosted, allowing it to outpace all un-Scarfed Pokemon in Little Cup after a Dragon Dance. Waterfall is for STAB, and Return provides solid neutral coverage. Crunch is what sets Corphish apart from Krabby, as it crushes Ghosts who switch in to a predicted Return. Also, without a single Dragon Dance, Corphish can OHKO Duskull with a super effective Crunch, unlike Krabby's Crabhammer, who can't with Crabhammer. After a single Dragon Dance, Corphish hits 25 Attack (backed by a Life Orb) and 21 Speed. With this raw power, Corphish destroys a lot of the metagame with its assortment of attacks. Gligar is OHKOed regardless of its set, which is a testament to how powerful Corphish can be if it is set up properly. Corphish can also OHKO Munchlax 29% of the time after one Dragon Dance with Waterfall. If Munchlax has taken prior damage from Stealth Rock, Corphish can easily 2HKO a weakened Munchlax. The thing that plagues Corphish the most, however, is priority; a Mild natured Croagunk with 188 SpA EVs takes over half of Corphish's HP with Vacuum Wave. (unnecessary..)</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>Corphish can rip holes in your opponent's team once priority users and Choice Scarf Pokemon are out of the way. X-Scissor, Brick Break, and Rock Slide may sound great on this set, but Corphish just can't afford the moveslots, as all of the moves already on the set are very important. Brick Break is another option to deal extra damage to opponents such as Snover and Munchlax. Corphish appreciates Stealth Rock support for breaking Focus Sash and chipping away at the opponent's HP.</p>
<p>Corphish packs a few perks over Dragon Dance Barboach and Totodile; Barboach keels over to any sort of Grass-type attack, while Corphish has only a 2x weakness, reducing their impact, even though it won't matter most of the time, since Corphish's Special Defense is still fairly low. Corphish stars as a late-game sweeper, which is where we can compare it to Totodile. Against Totodile, Corphish has the benefit of a higher Attack stat, which enables it to do more damage, and as such is arguably more effective if all priority users and Choice Scarf Pokemon have been eliminated. As a bonus, it has Shell Armor over the other two, ensuring a critical hit won't prematurely end Corphish's sweep.</p> (my god, all of these are either really obvious, or completely irrelevant..)
<p>Hidden Power Psychic Croagunk, Hidden Power Flying Mantyke, and Gligar are good partners as they destroy opposing Croagunk, who can deal massive damage to Corphish with its priority attacks. In terms of support, Pineco is a good choice to Rapid Spin away entry hazards (why do entry hazards need to be spun away?). You will also want a Pokemon who can set up entry hazards of your own, as Corphish appreciates the support for breaking Focus Sash and chipping away at the opponent's HP. Pineco is good for this as well, and it can be used as a lead.</p>
(merge the stuff that's left..)
[SET]
name: Swords Dance
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Waterfall
move 3: Crunch
move 4: Return
item: Life Orb
ability: Shell Armor
nature: Jolly
evs: 196 Atk / 76 Def / 236 Spe
ivs: 0 HP
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>After a Swords Dance, Corphish reaches a mind-blowing Attack stat of 34. With proper support, this Corphish can rip apart teams. Once again, priority is a problem, but that is solved to an extent by Baton Passing it a Substitute. Waterfall, Crunch, and Return are the token attacks, and together, have excellent coverage in tandem with each other.</p>
<p>Low Speed and a weakness to priority are this Corphish's main problems when attempting to obtain a sweep. Corphish's low Speed stat, while quite crippling, (comma) can be fixed by proper team support. This set works extremely well against the rare stall teams, as they usually have slow Pokemon such as Munchlax and Bronzor, against whom Speed is not an issue. Corphish is able to set up on them and then do some sweeping. On the other hand, offensive teams make Corphish cry, as even if it manages to get a Swords Dance up, it can usually only score a single KO at most because of its terrible Speed. Another unfortunate piece of news is that very few people use stall teams in Little Cup, which means that it will be hard for Corphish to set up on anything.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>This is probably Corphish's most devastating set, but it definitely needs the most team support as well. Rapid Spin and Stealth Rock are helpful for minimizing damage to Corphish, and for breaking the enemy's Focus Sash. Sadly, Corphish is also held back by its mediocre 14 Speed. This can be fixed by Baton Passing it a Substitute (this is optional, but it gives Corphish a safe Swords Dance behind the Substitute) and an Agility (giving it 28 Speed, enough to rip through teams at a blistering pace). Gligar is great at this, due to its access to Agility, Substitute, and Baton Pass, in addition to its ability to take on Croagunk. Aipom can also do this well. Also, the 0 HP IV gives 19 HP, which means Corphish only takes 1 point of damage from the recoil of Life Orb.(backspace)</p>
Removals in red
Comments in bold red
[Overview]
<p>Corphish is one of the most uncommon Pokemon in Little Cup. It has a good physical stats, but disappointingly poor Speed and average HP stats that undermine them is disappointing. It doesn't help that Croagunk, the premier priority abuser in LC, walks all over it either. Corphish also has a good Defense stat, along with an average HP stat, allowing it to take physical hits comfortably. All in all, Corphish is a rather average Pokemon, but it has a niche in the fast-paced Little Cup metagame: However, Corphish's access to both Dragon Dance and Crunch give it an advantage over Krabby as a physical Water-type, allowing it to boost both its Attack and Speed simultaneously, and hit Ghost-types super effectively. All in all, you should not expect too much from Corphish, as it is still a rather average Pokemon, but you should know that it isn't without its niche Croagunk, the premier priority abuser of Little Cup, walks all over it.</p>
[SET]
name: Dragon Dance
move 1: Dragon Dance
move 2: Waterfall
move 3: Return
move 4: Crunch
item: Life Orb / Oran Berry
ability: Shell Armor
nature: Jolly
evs: 196 Atk / 76 Def / 236 Spe
ivs: 0 HP
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>Corphish, unboosted, hits 14 Speed with a Jolly nature unboosted, allowing it to outpace all un-Scarfed Pokemon in Little Cup after a Dragon Dance. Waterfall is for STAB, and Return provides solid neutral coverage. Crunch is what sets Corphish apart from Krabby, as it crushes Ghosts who switch in to a predicted Return. Also, without a single Dragon Dance, Corphish can OHKO Duskull with a super effective Crunch, unlike Krabby's Crabhammer, who can't with Crabhammer. After a single Dragon Dance, Corphish hits 25 Attack (backed by a Life Orb) and 21 Speed. With this raw power, Corphish destroys a lot of the metagame with its assortment of attacks. Gligar is OHKOed regardless of its set, which is a testament to how powerful Corphish can be if it is set up properly. Corphish can also OHKO Munchlax 29% of the time after one Dragon Dance with Waterfall. If Munchlax has taken prior damage from Stealth Rock, Corphish can easily 2HKO a weakened Munchlax. The thing that plagues Corphish the most, however, is priority; a Mild natured Croagunk with 188 SpA EVs takes over half of Corphish's HP with Vacuum Wave. (unnecessary..)</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>Corphish can rip holes in your opponent's team once priority users and Choice Scarf Pokemon are out of the way. X-Scissor, Brick Break, and Rock Slide may sound great on this set, but Corphish just can't afford the moveslots, as all of the moves already on the set are very important. Brick Break is another option to deal extra damage to opponents such as Snover and Munchlax. Corphish appreciates Stealth Rock support for breaking Focus Sash and chipping away at the opponent's HP.</p>
<p>Corphish packs a few perks over Dragon Dance Barboach and Totodile; Barboach keels over to any sort of Grass-type attack, while Corphish has only a 2x weakness, reducing their impact, even though it won't matter most of the time, since Corphish's Special Defense is still fairly low. Corphish stars as a late-game sweeper, which is where we can compare it to Totodile. Against Totodile, Corphish has the benefit of a higher Attack stat, which enables it to do more damage, and as such is arguably more effective if all priority users and Choice Scarf Pokemon have been eliminated. As a bonus, it has Shell Armor over the other two, ensuring a critical hit won't prematurely end Corphish's sweep.</p> (my god, all of these are either really obvious, or completely irrelevant..)
<p>Hidden Power Psychic Croagunk, Hidden Power Flying Mantyke, and Gligar are good partners as they destroy opposing Croagunk, who can deal massive damage to Corphish with its priority attacks. In terms of support, Pineco is a good choice to Rapid Spin away entry hazards (why do entry hazards need to be spun away?). You will also want a Pokemon who can set up entry hazards of your own, as Corphish appreciates the support for breaking Focus Sash and chipping away at the opponent's HP. Pineco is good for this as well, and it can be used as a lead.</p>
(merge the stuff that's left..)
[SET]
name: Swords Dance
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Waterfall
move 3: Crunch
move 4: Return
item: Life Orb
ability: Shell Armor
nature: Jolly
evs: 196 Atk / 76 Def / 236 Spe
ivs: 0 HP
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>After a Swords Dance, Corphish reaches a mind-blowing Attack stat of 34. With proper support, this Corphish can rip apart teams. Once again, priority is a problem, but that is solved to an extent by Baton Passing it a Substitute. Waterfall, Crunch, and Return are the token attacks, and together, have excellent coverage in tandem with each other.</p>
<p>Low Speed and a weakness to priority are this Corphish's main problems when attempting to obtain a sweep. Corphish's low Speed stat, while quite crippling, (comma) can be fixed by proper team support. This set works extremely well against the rare stall teams, as they usually have slow Pokemon such as Munchlax and Bronzor, against whom Speed is not an issue. Corphish is able to set up on them and then do some sweeping. On the other hand, offensive teams make Corphish cry, as even if it manages to get a Swords Dance up, it can usually only score a single KO at most because of its terrible Speed. Another unfortunate piece of news is that very few people use stall teams in Little Cup, which means that it will be hard for Corphish to set up on anything.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>This is probably Corphish's most devastating set, but it definitely needs the most team support as well. Rapid Spin and Stealth Rock are helpful for minimizing damage to Corphish, and for breaking the enemy's Focus Sash. Sadly, Corphish is also held back by its mediocre 14 Speed. This can be fixed by Baton Passing it a Substitute (this is optional, but it gives Corphish a safe Swords Dance behind the Substitute) and an Agility (giving it 28 Speed, enough to rip through teams at a blistering pace). Gligar is great at this, due to its access to Agility, Substitute, and Baton Pass, in addition to its ability to take on Croagunk. Aipom can also do this well. Also, the 0 HP IV gives 19 HP, which means Corphish only takes 1 point of damage from the recoil of Life Orb.(backspace)</p>
why are there are so many random, floating sentences? O_O
EDIT:
<p>Once again, Croagunk is a problem for weakened Corphish due to Fake Out and Vacuum Wave. Hidden Power Psychic Croagunk is a good partner to take out opposing Croagunk. While Corphish looks like a poor man's Krabby, Corphish has a better (but nevertheless still poor) Special Defense stat, allowing it to take Croagunk's Vacuum Wave and other special moves slightly better. Also, it has Crunch, which deals more damage to Ghost-types than Waterfall. This set appreciates Stealth Rock and Rapid Spin support, both of which can be provided by a Pokemon like Pineco however, it also needs some Baton Passed Speed (preferably from behind a Substitute) in order to sweep. Gligar is a good teammate for Swords Dance Corphish, since it can pass it Speed boosts and KO opposing Croagunk, Corphish's biggest threat. (already been stated..) Here are some calculations of an unboosted Life Orb Corphish, comparing Crunch to Waterfall.</p>
<ul class="damage_calculation">
<li> Corphish Crunch vs. 196 HP / 36 Def Relaxed Duskull: 104.8% - 133.3% (100% chance of OHKO) <li>
<li> Corphish Crunch vs. 116 HP / 8 Def Drifloon: 140.7% - 170.4% (100% chance of OHKO) <li>
<li> Corphish Waterfall vs. 196 HP / 36 Def Relaxed Duskull: 76.2% - 100% (16% chance of OHKO) <li>
<li> Corphish Waterfall vs. 116 HP / 8 Def Drifloon: 103.7% - 125.9% (100% chance of OHKO) <li>
</ul>
(I ask why these are at all relevant to a Swords dance set, if none of them take into account the boost provided by it.)
[SET]
name: Choice Scarf
move 1: Waterfall
move 2: Crunch
move 3: Return
move 4: Brick Break / Rock Slide
item: Choice Scarf
ability: Shell Armor
nature: Jolly
evs: 12 HP / 196 Atk / 236 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>Corphish reaches the magical number of 14 in its Speed stat, allowing it to use a Choice Scarf effectively. This set doesn't pack as much power as the others, but it does has good revenge killing potential. This set can hit everything in Little Cup for at least neutral damage; as usual, Waterfall is a good STAB move, while Crunch and Return are hard-hitting coverage moves, and Return pairs well with Waterfall. The last slot is mostly a filler, and should be decided based on what bonus hits you want Corphish to achieve; Rock Slide coves Flying-types, while Brick Break covers Dark-types, and it also 2HKOes Snover. Superpower is an outside choice for hit-and-run tactics, but it is not recommended due to the difficulty of bringing Corphish in without suffering a lot of damage.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>This Corphish set needs Stealth Rock support to help revenge kill, due to its relatively low unboosted Attack stat. Again, Croagunk can do a lot of damage with Fake Out + Vacuum Wave, thus necessitating your own Croagunk with Hidden Power Psychic. However, unlike the Swords Dance set, this Corphish doesn't need Baton Passed Speed, freeing up a slot on your team. Mantyke is a good Croagunk check who can be placed in this slot.(backspace)</p>
[Team Options]
<p>A good partner to pair with Corphish is Dratini; Dratini resists both of Corphish's weaknesses (Electric and Grass) while Corphish can switch into Ice-type attacks. Corphish also has good synergy with bulky Pokemon, particularly Bronzor. A Pokemon that can set up Stealth Rock is not essential, but is still preferred as Corphish could KO basically any opponent that has taken damage before an attack has been made. Corphish doesn't have particularly good bulk, so a spinner would also be nice to help improve its survival rate.</p>
(refer to here)
[Other Options]
<p>Slapping a Choice Band on Corphish sounds viable, but Corphish is so slow that it essentially gives your opponent free turns. Besides, the Dragon Dance and Swords Dance sets are vastly superior to Choice Band.</p>
<p>A specially-based set sounds good, but it is walled by Munchlax, who will inevitably come in when the surprise is revealed. Payback is outclassed by Crunch, as Corphish can't take a hit anyway. Protect is good for scouting, but has no place on Corphish's sets. Superpower is another option, but the Attack drops are unwelcome. A mixed sweeper set is also a viable option, since Corphish gets many good special attacks, such as Ice Beam, Sludge Bomb, and STAB Surf.</p>
[Checks and Counters]
<p>Croagunk is the best counter to Corphish, being able to switch in on Waterfall with impunity, and use Fake Out followed by Vacuum Wave to deal massive damage. However, it should be wary of switching into Return from the Dragon Dance and Sword Dance sets, and 2HKOed by the Choice Scarf set.</p>
<p>The sets that need setup are stopped by Croagunk and Dratini, while the Choice Scarf set requires prediction, and can be taken advantage of when Corphish is locked in on the wrong move. Waterfall is an entry hole for Croagunk, Return allows Gastly in to set up a Substitute, while Crunch and Rock Slide are setup fodder for Rock Polish Aron. All of these Pokemon become dangerous if given a free turn, and must be played around carefully. All of these Pokemon, as well as others, can easily set up on Corphish while you have to switch out.</p>
<ul class="damage_calculation">
<li> Corphish Crunch vs. 196 HP / 36 Def Relaxed Duskull: 104.8% - 133.3% (100% chance of OHKO) <li>
<li> Corphish Crunch vs. 116 HP / 8 Def Drifloon: 140.7% - 170.4% (100% chance of OHKO) <li>
<li> Corphish Waterfall vs. 196 HP / 36 Def Relaxed Duskull: 76.2% - 100% (16% chance of OHKO) <li>
<li> Corphish Waterfall vs. 116 HP / 8 Def Drifloon: 103.7% - 125.9% (100% chance of OHKO) <li>
</ul>
(I ask why these are at all relevant to a Swords dance set, if none of them take into account the boost provided by it.)
[SET]
name: Choice Scarf
move 1: Waterfall
move 2: Crunch
move 3: Return
move 4: Brick Break / Rock Slide
item: Choice Scarf
ability: Shell Armor
nature: Jolly
evs: 12 HP / 196 Atk / 236 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
<p>Corphish reaches the magical number of 14 in its Speed stat, allowing it to use a Choice Scarf effectively. This set doesn't pack as much power as the others, but it does has good revenge killing potential. This set can hit everything in Little Cup for at least neutral damage; as usual, Waterfall is a good STAB move, while Crunch and Return are hard-hitting coverage moves, and Return pairs well with Waterfall. The last slot is mostly a filler, and should be decided based on what bonus hits you want Corphish to achieve; Rock Slide coves Flying-types, while Brick Break covers Dark-types, and it also 2HKOes Snover. Superpower is an outside choice for hit-and-run tactics, but it is not recommended due to the difficulty of bringing Corphish in without suffering a lot of damage.</p>
[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
<p>This Corphish set needs Stealth Rock support to help revenge kill, due to its relatively low unboosted Attack stat. Again, Croagunk can do a lot of damage with Fake Out + Vacuum Wave, thus necessitating your own Croagunk with Hidden Power Psychic. However, unlike the Swords Dance set, this Corphish doesn't need Baton Passed Speed, freeing up a slot on your team. Mantyke is a good Croagunk check who can be placed in this slot.(backspace)</p>
[Team Options]
<p>A good partner to pair with Corphish is Dratini; Dratini resists both of Corphish's weaknesses (Electric and Grass) while Corphish can switch into Ice-type attacks. Corphish also has good synergy with bulky Pokemon, particularly Bronzor. A Pokemon that can set up Stealth Rock is not essential, but is still preferred as Corphish could KO basically any opponent that has taken damage before an attack has been made. Corphish doesn't have particularly good bulk, so a spinner would also be nice to help improve its survival rate.</p>
(refer to here)
[Other Options]
<p>Slapping a Choice Band on Corphish sounds viable, but Corphish is so slow that it essentially gives your opponent free turns. Besides, the Dragon Dance and Swords Dance sets are vastly superior to Choice Band.</p>
<p>A specially-based set sounds good, but it is walled by Munchlax, who will inevitably come in when the surprise is revealed. Payback is outclassed by Crunch, as Corphish can't take a hit anyway. Protect is good for scouting, but has no place on Corphish's sets. Superpower is another option, but the Attack drops are unwelcome. A mixed sweeper set is also a viable option, since Corphish gets many good special attacks, such as Ice Beam, Sludge Bomb, and STAB Surf.</p>
[Checks and Counters]
<p>Croagunk is the best counter to Corphish, being able to switch in on Waterfall with impunity, and use Fake Out followed by Vacuum Wave to deal massive damage. However, it should be wary of switching into Return from the Dragon Dance and Sword Dance sets, and 2HKOed by the Choice Scarf set.</p>
<p>The sets that need setup are stopped by Croagunk and Dratini, while the Choice Scarf set requires prediction, and can be taken advantage of when Corphish is locked in on the wrong move. Waterfall is an entry hole for Croagunk, Return allows Gastly in to set up a Substitute, while Crunch and Rock Slide are setup fodder for Rock Polish Aron. All of these Pokemon become dangerous if given a free turn, and must be played around carefully. All of these Pokemon, as well as others, can easily set up on Corphish while you have to switch out.</p>
yeah, this isn't official..
is this a GP check?
ok thanks. just making sure
Thank you Aeron Ee1. Those changes have been made (but shouldn't team options section still be in there?) and am now ready to receive the final GP check.
Hey I'm bumping this thread for my last GP check. All GP members that I have contacted have not give me a response.
Thank you Flora; I appreciate it. This analysis is now ready for uploading.