Horsea (Analysis)

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Horsea

QC: Nails, ShinyAzelf
GP: Calm Pokemaster, Chou Toshio

[OVERVIEW]


<p>Horsea is a premier special sweeper on Rain Dance teams. Swift Swim, coupled with base 60 Speed, allows Horsea to reach 32 Speed in the rain. It has the second highest Special Attack among all Pokemon who have Swift Swim. Thanks to its high Speed stat, Horsea is a good option to use over Mantyke. Horsea also has higher Defense and Special Attack than Mantyke. Horsea's base 70 Special Attack allows it to reach 17 Special Attack with maximum EV investment and a Modest nature. It has a good base 70 Defense stat, but a poor base 25 Special Defense stat, which means Horsea can only take physical hits effectively.</p>


[SET]


name: Rain Dance Special Sweeper
move 1: Rain Dance
move 2: Hydro Pump / Surf
move 3: Ice Beam
move 4: Hidden Power Grass / Hidden Power Electric
item: Life Orb / Eviolite
ability: Swift Swim
nature: Modest / Timid
evs: 36 Def / 200 SpA / 76 SpD / 196 Spe


[SET COMMENTS]


<p>In the rain, Horsea reaches up to 32 Speed with a Timid nature, and 30 Speed with Modest. With maximum EV investment and a positive nature, Horsea can reach up to 17 Special Attack, while with a Timid nature, it reaches only 16 Special Attack. Modest is the prefered nature because Horsea needs the extra power to deal with walls such as Ferroseed carrying Eviolite. The first moveslot is the most important. In this slot, Horsea should use Rain Dance; with Rain Dance, Horsea's Speed is doubled and Hydro Pump is boosted. The second moveslot should carry Hydro Pump, Horsea's strongest attack. With a 120 Base Power STAB move boosted by Rain, Horsea can be very threatening to anything that doesn't resist Water-type attacks. Ice Beam is in the third moveslot to hit Pokemon that Hydro Pump can't hit neutrally, such as Dragon- and Grass-types. Hidden Power Grass should be used in the last moveslot to cover Water-type Pokemon who resist both Hydro Pump and Ice Beam. It can also hit Chinchou for super effective damage, which is a big plus since Chinchou is dangerous in the rain. The given EV spread maxes out Horsea's Special Attack and Speed while giving one more point to its Defense and Special Defense stats. Life Orb is the best option for an item on the set. It gives Horsea the extra attacking power needed to KO and 2KHO certain threats.</p>


[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]


<p>A Timid nature may be considered over a Modest nature if you want to outspeed Scarf users with 20 Speed. However, a Pokemon with a Speed stat of 20 is very rare. Using Surf over Hydro Pump is a viable option if you prefer to have more reliability in exchange for lower damage. Hidden Power Electric can be used over Hidden Power Grass if you want to hit Mantyke for 4x super effective damage. Other than that, Hidden Power Electric has no benefits over Hidden Power Grass with the moveset Horsea is using. Eviolite may also be considered over Life Orb to give Horsea more bulk. It is not a very good option though, because Horsea in the rain outspeeds the whole metagame, so it won't be taking many hits anyway.</p>


[OTHER OPTIONS]


<p>Horsea is capable of running an Agility set with a moveset of Agility, Hydro Pump, Ice Beam, and Hidden Power Grass. It is virtually the same as the Rain Dance set without the boost to Water-type attacks and with a permanent Speed boost. Chinchou completely outclasses the Agility set though, which is why it isn't very viable. A Dragon Dance set could also be utilized, but Horsea has a relatively small physical movepool, which basically rules that set out.</p>


[CHECKS AND COUNTERS]


<p>Horsea has a few counters that will stop it dead in its tracks. Ferroseed walls the Rain Dance set completely, resisting all of Horsea's attacks barring Ice Beam, which won't do nearly enough damage to 2HKO it. Ferroseed can also hit Horsea for super effective damage with Bullet Seed. Priority also beats Horsea into the ground. Croakgunk in particular, can do a lot of damage to Horsea with Fake Out + Vacuum Wave since Horsea has such pitiful Special Defense. Choice Scarf Snover can also be detrimental to this set, since it will change the weather from rain to hail and outspeed and KO Horsea with Giga Drain.</p>
 
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[OVERVIEW]

<p>Horsea is a premier special sweeper on a Rain Dance teams. With the ability Swift Swim, coupled with Horsea's base 60 Speed, allows it Horsea to reach 32 Speed in the rain. It has the second highest Special Attack among all Pokemon who have Swift Swim. Thanks to its high Speed stat, Horsea is a good option to use over Mantyke. Horsea also has a higher Defense and Special Attack than Mantyke. Horsea's base 70 Special Attack allows it to reach 17 Special Attack with maximum EV investment and a Modest nature. It has a good base 70 Defense stat, but it also has a poor base 25 Special Defense stat, making which means Horsea can only able to take physical hits effectively on the Defensive side.</p>

[SET]

name: Rain Dance Special Sweeper
move 1: Rain Dance
move 2: Hydro Pump / Surf
move 3: Ice Beam
move 4: Hidden Power Grass / Hidden Power Electric
item: Life Orb / Eviolite
ability: Swift Swim
nature: Modest / Timid
evs: 36 Def / 200 SpA / 76 SpD / 196 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>If Horsea is in the rain, it reaches up to 32 Speed with a Timid nature, and 30 Speed with a Modest nature. With maximum EV investment and a positive boosting nature, Horsea can reach up to 17 Special Attack. With a Timid nature, Horsea reaches only 16 Special Attack. Modest is the prefered nature becuase because it Horsea needs the extra power to deal with walls like Ferroseed carrying Eviolite. The first moveslot is the most important. In this slot, Horsea should use Rain Dance; with Rain Dance, Horsea's gets it's Speed is doubled, and Hydro Pump is boosted because of the Rain. The second moveslot should be used to carry Hydro Pump, Hydro Pump is Horsea's strongest attack. because With a 120 base power STAB move boosted by Rain, Horsea can be very threatening to anything that doesn't resist Hydro Pump Water. Ice Beam is in the third moveslot to hit Pokemon that Hydro Pump can't hit neutrally, such as . Ice Beam can hit Dragons Dragon-types and Grass-types hard that resist Hydro Pump. Hidden Power Grass should be used in the last moveslot to cover Water-type Pokemon who resist both Hydro Pump and Ice Beam. It can also hit Chinchou Super Effectively super effectively, (super effective isn't capitalized) which is a big plus since Chinchou is dangerous in the rain. The given EV spread maxes out Horsea's Special Attack and Speed while giving one point of bulk to it's its Defense and Special Defense Stat stats. (Not sure if this is exactly what you meant) Life Orb is the best option for an Item item on the set. It gives Horsea the extra attacking power needed to KO and 2KHO certain threats.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>A Timid nature may be considered over a Modest nature if you want to outspeed 20 Speed Pokemon with a Choice Scarf. however However, a Pokemon with a 20 Speed Stat Speed stat of 20 is very rare. Using Surf over Hydro Pump is a viable option if you prefer to have more reliability in exchange for a weaker attack lower damage. (Sounds better for paralellism) Hidden Power Electric can be used over Hidden Power Grass if you want to hit Mantyke 4x Super Effectively super effectively. Other than that, Hidden Power Electric has no benefits over Hidden Power Grass with the moveset Horsea is using. Eviolite may also be considered over Life Orb to give Horsea more bulk. It is not a very good option though, because Horsea in the rain outspeeds the whole metagame, so it won't be taking many hits anyway.</p>

[OTHER OPTIONS]

<p>Horsea is capable of running an Agility set with the a moveset of Agility, Hydro Pump, Ice Beam, and Hidden Power Grass. It is virtually the same thing as the Rain Dance set without the boost to Water-type attacks and it doesn't last only 5 turns with a permanent Speed boost. (Awkward wording) Chinchou completely outclasses the Agility set, though, which is why it isn't very viable. A Dragon Dance set could also be utilized as one of Horsea's sets. However, Horsea has a relatively small physical movepool though, which basically rules that set out.</p>

[CHECKS AND COUNTERS]

<p>Horsea has a few counters that will stop it dead in its tracks. Ferroseed walls the Rain Dance set into to oblivion, resisting all of Horsea's attacks barring Ice Beam, which won't do near enough damage to 2HKO Ferroseed. Ferroseed can also hit Horsea Super Effectively super effectively with Bullet Seed. Priority also beats Horsea into the ground. Croakgunk in particular, can do a lot of damage to Horsea with Fake Out + Vacuum Wave since Horsea has such pitiful Special Defense. Snover can also be detrimental to this set, since it can change the Rain into Hail and since most Snover carry Choice Scarf, to outspeed and KO Horsea with Giga Drain.</p>
 
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[OVERVIEW]

<p>Horsea is a premier special sweeper on a Rain Dance teams. With the ability Swift Swim, coupled with Horsea's base 60 Speed, allows it Horsea to reach 32 Speed in the rain. It has the second highest Special Attack among all Pokemon who have Swift Swim. Thanks to its high Speed stat, Horsea is a good option to use over Mantyke. Horsea also has a higher Defense and Special Attack than Mantyke. Horsea's base 70 Special Attack allows it to reach 17 Special Attack with maximum EV investment and a Modest nature. It has a good base 70 Defense stat, but it also has a poor base 25 Special Defense stat, making which means Horsea can only able to take physical hits effectively on the Defensive side.</p>

[SET]

name: Rain Dance Special Sweeper
move 1: Rain Dance
move 2: Hydro Pump / Surf
move 3: Ice Beam
move 4: Hidden Power Grass / Hidden Power Electric
item: Life Orb / Eviolite
ability: Swift Swim
nature: Modest / Timid
evs: 36 Def / 200 SpA / 76 SpD / 196 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>If Horsea is in the rain, it In the rain, Horsea reaches up to 32 Speed with a Timid nature,and 30 Speed with a Modest nature. With maximum EV investment and a positive boosting nature, Horsea can reach up to 17 Special Attack, while with a Timid nature, Horsea it reaches only 16 Special Attack. Modest is the prefered nature becuase because it Horsea needs the extra power to deal with walls like such as Ferroseed carrying Eviolite. The first moveslot is the most important. In this slot, Horsea should use Rain Dance; with Rain Dance, Horsea's gets it's Speed is doubled, and Hydro Pump is boosted because of the Rain. The second moveslot should be used to carry Hydro Pump, Hydro Pump is Horsea's strongest attack. because With a 120 Base Power STAB move boosted by Rain, Horsea can be very threatening to anything that doesn't resist Hydro Pump Water-type attacks. Ice Beam is in the third moveslot to hit Pokemon that Hydro Pump can't hit neutrally, such as . Ice Beam can hit Dragons Dragon- and Grass-types hard that resist Hydro Pump. Hidden Power Grass should be used in the last moveslot to cover Water-type Pokemon who resist both Hydro Pump and Ice Beam. It can also hit Chinchou Super Effectively super effectively, (super effective isn't capitalized) which is a big plus since Chinchou is dangerous in the rain. The given EV spread maxes out Horsea's Special Attack and Speed while giving one more point of bulk to it's its Defense and Special Defense Stat stats. (Not sure if this is exactly what you meant) Life Orb is the best option for an Item item on the set. It gives Horsea the extra attacking power needed to KO and 2KHO certain threats.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>A Timid nature may be considered over a Modest nature if you want to outspeed 20 Speed Pokemon with a Choice Scarf Scarf users with 20 Speed. however However, a Pokemon with a 20 Speed Stat Speed stat of 20 is very rare. Using Surf over Hydro Pump is a viable option if you prefer to have more reliability in exchange for a weaker attack lower damage. (Sounds better for paralellism) Hidden Power Electric can be used over Hidden Power Grass if you want to hit Mantyke 4x Super Effectively super effectively. Other than that, Hidden Power Electric has no benefits over Hidden Power Grass with the moveset Horsea is using. Eviolite may also be considered over Life Orb to give Horsea more bulk. It is not a very good option though, because Horsea in the rain outspeeds the whole metagame, so it won't be taking many hits anyway.</p>

[OTHER OPTIONS]

<p>Horsea is capable of running an Agility set with the a moveset of Agility, Hydro Pump, Ice Beam, and Hidden Power Grass. It is virtually the same thing as the Rain Dance set without the boost to Water-type attacks and it doesn't last only 5 turns with a permanent Speed boost. (Awkward wording) Chinchou completely outclasses the Agility set, though, which is why it isn't very viable. A Dragon Dance set could also be utilized as one of Horsea's sets., but Horsea has a relatively small physical movepool though, which basically rules that set out.</p>

[CHECKS AND COUNTERS]

<p>Horsea has a few counters that will stop it dead in its tracks. Ferroseed walls the Rain Dance set into to oblivion, resisting all of Horsea's attacks barring Ice Beam, which won't do near enough damage to 2HKO Ferroseed it. Ferroseed can also hit Horsea Super Effectively super effectively with Bullet Seed. Priority also beats Horsea into the ground. Croakgunk in particular, can do a lot of damage to Horsea with Fake Out + Vacuum Wave since Horsea has such pitiful Special Defense. Choice Scarf Snover can also be detrimental to this set, since it can will change the Rain into Hail and since most Snover carry Choice Scarf, weather from rain to hail and outspeed and KO Horsea with Giga Drain.</p>




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Horsea

QC: Nails, ShinyAzelf
GP: Calm Pokemaster
[OVERVIEW]

<p>Horsea is a premier special sweeper on Rain Dance teams. Swift Swim, coupled with base 60 Speed, allows Horsea to reach 32 Speed in the rain. It has the second highest Special Attack among all Pokemon who have Swift Swim. Thanks to its high Speed stat, Horsea is a good option to use over Mantyke. Horsea also has higher Defense and Special Attack than Mantyke. Horsea's base 70 Special Attack allows it to reach 17 Special Attack with maximum EV investment and a Modest nature. It has a good base 70 Defense stat, but a poor base 25 Special Defense stat, which means Horsea can only take physical hits effectively.</p>

[SET]

name: Rain Dance Special Sweeper
move 1: Rain Dance
move 2: Hydro Pump / Surf
move 3: Ice Beam
move 4: Hidden Power Grass / Hidden Power Electric
item: Life Orb / Eviolite
ability: Swift Swim
nature: Modest / Timid
evs: 36 Def / 200 SpA / 76 SpD / 196 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>In the rain, Horsea reaches up to 32 Speed with a Timid nature, and 30 Speed with Modest. With maximum EV investment and a positive nature, Horsea can reach up to 17 Special Attack, while with a Timid nature, it reaches only 16 Special Attack. Modest is the prefered nature because Horsea needs the extra power to deal with walls such as Ferroseed carrying Eviolite. The first moveslot is the most important. In this slot, Horsea should use Rain Dance; with Rain Dance, Horsea's Speed is doubled and Hydro Pump is boosted. The second moveslot should carry Hydro Pump, Horsea's strongest attack. With a 120 Base Power STAB move boosted by Rain, Horsea can be very threatening to anything that doesn't resist Water-type attacks. Ice Beam is in the third moveslot to hit Pokemon that Hydro Pump can't hit neutrally, such as Dragon- and Grass-types. Hidden Power Grass should be used in the last moveslot to cover Water-type Pokemon who resist both Hydro Pump and Ice Beam. It can also hit Chinchou for super effectively damage, which is a big plus since Chinchou is dangerous in the rain. The given EV spread maxes out Horsea's Special Attack and Speed while giving one more point to its Defense and Special Defense stats. (Not sure if this is exactly what you meant) Life Orb is the best option for an item on the set. It gives Horsea the extra attacking power needed to KO and 2KHO certain threats.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>A Timid nature may be considered over a Modest nature if you want to outspeed Scarf users with 20 Speed. However, a Pokemon with a Speed stat of 20 is very rare. Using Surf over Hydro Pump is a viable option if you prefer to have more reliability in exchange for lower damage. (Sounds better for paralellism) Hidden Power Electric can be used over Hidden Power Grass if you want to hit Mantyke for 4x super effectively damage. Other than that, Hidden Power Electric has no benefits over Hidden Power Grass with the moveset Horsea is using. Eviolite may also be considered over Life Orb to give Horsea more bulk. It is not a very good option though, because Horsea in the rain outspeeds the whole metagame, so it won't be taking many hits anyway.</p>

[OTHER OPTIONS]

<p>Horsea is capable of running an Agility set with a moveset of Agility, Hydro Pump, Ice Beam, and Hidden Power Grass. It is virtually the same as the Rain Dance set without the boost to Water-type attacks and with a permanent Speed boost. Chinchou completely outclasses the Agility set though, which is why it isn't very viable. A Dragon Dance set could also be utilized, but Horsea has a relatively small physical movepool, which basically rules that set out.</p>

[CHECKS AND COUNTERS]

<p>Horsea has a few counters that will stop it dead in its tracks. Ferroseed walls the Rain Dance set to oblivion completely, resisting all of Horsea's attacks barring Ice Beam, which won't do nearly enough damage to 2HKO it. Ferroseed can also hit Horsea for super effectively damage with Bullet Seed. Priority also beats Horsea into the ground. Croakgunk in particular, can do a lot of damage to Horsea with Fake Out + Vacuum Wave since Horsea has such pitiful Special Defense. Choice Scarf Snover can also be detrimental to this set, since it will change the weather from rain to hail and outspeed and KO Horsea with Giga Drain.</p>

Be more careful when implementing GP checks-- it's very odd you actually left in C_P's comments in parenthesis. Otherwise, it was good overall!


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