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Signature move testing! Objection vs SubwayJ!
- Thread starter waterwarrior
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Mach Punch+Comet Punch-Cooldown (Comet Punch)-Mach Punch
I actually don't know how combos work with multi-hit moves, but I am completely certain that a Fighting-type Iron Fist boosted attack from Conkeldurr can do 7 DMG for ((4+4)1.5 -1 = 11 EN)
Post-Round stats:
Captain Hook
HP: KO
EN: KO
5/3/2/4/75
Carcassonne
HP: 45
EN: 33
5/4/1/3/45
-1 Spe
Spikes (2 layers)
Angry Birds
HP: 1
EN: 44
1/4/5/3/80
Plants vs Zombies
HP: 73
EN: 71
5/4/4/5/70/ -10 Eva
Badly Poisoned (1 DPA)
Objection automatically sends out Lady Tremaine (no post needed)
Subway orders first
Post-Round stats:
Captain Hook
HP: KO
EN: KO
5/3/2/4/75
Carcassonne
HP: 45
EN: 33
5/4/1/3/45
-1 Spe
Spikes (2 layers)
Angry Birds
HP: 1
EN: 44
1/4/5/3/80
Plants vs Zombies
HP: 73
EN: 71
5/4/4/5/70/ -10 Eva
Badly Poisoned (1 DPA)
Objection automatically sends out Lady Tremaine (no post needed)
Subway orders first
Alright, I need 2 of these guys out of this battle as soon as possible!
(Enable Sheer Force) Cooldown-Fire Punch-Fire Punch
(Enable Sheer Force) Cooldown-Fire Punch-Fire Punch
I actually meant how the hits would be distributed between the Substitute and the real Pokemon, but whatever.
Pre-Round stats:
Lady Tremaine
HP: 100
EN: 100
1/2/5/3/95
Carcassonne
HP: 45
EN: 33
5/4/1/3/45
-1 Spe
Spikes (2 layers)
In the interest of speed, flavor has been omitted, though I would like to say that Forewarn is a fucking asshole.
Post-Round stats:
Lady Tremaine
HP: 100
EN: 81
1/2/5/3/95
Reflect (4a)
Carcassonne
HP: -3
EN: KO
5/4/1/3/45
Spikes (2 layers)
Angry Birds
HP: 1
EN: 44
1/4/5/3/80
Plants vs Zombies
HP: 73
EN: 71
5/4/4/5/70/ -10 Eva
Badly Poisoned (1 DPA)
Subway sends in next mon
Objection orders first
Pre-Round stats:
Lady Tremaine
HP: 100
EN: 100
1/2/5/3/95
Carcassonne
HP: 45
EN: 33
5/4/1/3/45
-1 Spe
Spikes (2 layers)
Action 1
Psychic -> Carcassonne (4+(4/2) = 6 EN)
RNG roll (to crit) 5167 = no crit
RNG roll (to lower SpD) 7664 = no lower
(10+3+(5-3)1.5)(1.5) = 24 DMG
Carcassonne must cool down!
Action 2
Lady Tremaine used Reflect! (7 EN)
Lady Tremaine is protected by Reflect!
Fire Punch -> Lady Tremaine (6 EN)
RNG roll (to hit, <=8700 hit) 9177 = miss
Forewarn is a dick!
Action 3
Psychic -> Carcassonne (4+(4/2) = 6 EN)
RNG roll (to crit) 4366 = no crit
RNG roll (to lower SpD) 9552 = no lower
(10+3+(5-3)1.5)(1.5) = 24 DMG
Carcassonne fainted!
Psychic -> Carcassonne (4+(4/2) = 6 EN)
RNG roll (to crit) 5167 = no crit
RNG roll (to lower SpD) 7664 = no lower
(10+3+(5-3)1.5)(1.5) = 24 DMG
Carcassonne must cool down!
Action 2
Lady Tremaine used Reflect! (7 EN)
Lady Tremaine is protected by Reflect!
Fire Punch -> Lady Tremaine (6 EN)
RNG roll (to hit, <=8700 hit) 9177 = miss
Forewarn is a dick!
Action 3
Psychic -> Carcassonne (4+(4/2) = 6 EN)
RNG roll (to crit) 4366 = no crit
RNG roll (to lower SpD) 9552 = no lower
(10+3+(5-3)1.5)(1.5) = 24 DMG
Carcassonne fainted!
In the interest of speed, flavor has been omitted, though I would like to say that Forewarn is a fucking asshole.
Post-Round stats:
Lady Tremaine
HP: 100
EN: 81
1/2/5/3/95
Reflect (4a)
Carcassonne
HP: -3
EN: KO
5/4/1/3/45
Spikes (2 layers)
Angry Birds
HP: 1
EN: 44
1/4/5/3/80
Plants vs Zombies
HP: 73
EN: 71
5/4/4/5/70/ -10 Eva
Badly Poisoned (1 DPA)
Subway sends in next mon
Objection orders first
Go Angry Birds
now you're dead
now Go PvZ!!!
now you're dead
now Go PvZ!!!
Taunt - Arctic Wind - Ice Beam
If she uses a protective/evasive move and did not use a protective/evasive move on the previous action, change that action to Hail, push actions back and replace all instances of Arctic Wind and Ice Beam with Blizzard.
If she uses a damaging ghost-type move and you do not have a substitute up and you did not use Substitute on the previous action, change that action to Substitute (20 HP) and push actions back.
If she uses a protective/evasive move and did not use a protective/evasive move on the previous action, change that action to Hail, push actions back and replace all instances of Arctic Wind and Ice Beam with Blizzard.
If she uses a damaging ghost-type move and you do not have a substitute up and you did not use Substitute on the previous action, change that action to Substitute (20 HP) and push actions back.
Shadow Sneak+Snatch-Cooldown-Shadow Ball
*** If that combo would not work, use (Shadow Sneak+Pain Split) that action instead
Also Yay low ACC Arctic Wind!
*** If that combo would not work, use (Shadow Sneak+Pain Split) that action instead
Also Yay low ACC Arctic Wind!
It's not that low acc, especially since you're -speed. Also:
<%Objection> combo: shadow sneak + snatch
<%Objection> y/n
<%dogfish44> n
<%Objection> combo: shadow sneak + pain split
<%Objection> y/n
<%dogfish44> n, even more so.
<%Objection> SubwayJ will be most disappointed then
So given that you subbed for the first combo not working and the second combo also doesn't work, you'd end up using Shadow Sneak action 1 and Pain Split action 2.
<%Objection> combo: shadow sneak + snatch
<%Objection> y/n
<%dogfish44> n
<%Objection> combo: shadow sneak + pain split
<%Objection> y/n
<%dogfish44> n, even more so.
<%Objection> SubwayJ will be most disappointed then
So given that you subbed for the first combo not working and the second combo also doesn't work, you'd end up using Shadow Sneak action 1 and Pain Split action 2.
I think at least one of those should work....
Since not, I'll use
Shadow Ball-ShadowSneak-Shadow Ball
Since not, I'll use
Shadow Ball-ShadowSneak-Shadow Ball
Bump? I'd like this to get going please!
(I need PvZ and Carcasonne for my TLR!)
(I need PvZ and Carcasonne for my TLR!)
Sorry, sorry. Combination of school, White 2, Comic-Con prep, and general laziness does not work out to me being a very good ref, does it? :/
Pre-Round stats:
Lady Tremaine
HP: 100
EN: 81
1/2/5/3/95
Reflect (4a)
Plants vs Zombies
HP: 73
EN: 71
5/4/4/5/70/ -10 Eva
Badly Poisoned (1 DPA)
Spikes (2 layers)
Due to an incredibly abusable sub, Objection is now lightyears behind Subway in terms of energy, but disregarding the Substitute, isn't that far ahead in terms of HP either! Even though everyone has predicted a curbstomp by Objection here, one false move next round might flip it over to a come-from-way-behind victory by Subway (don't tell me its not possible, I'm trying to create suspense!)
Post-Round stats:
Lady Tremaine
HP: 60
EN: 25
1/2/5/3/95
Substitute (20 HP)
Reflect (1a)
Plants vs Zombies
HP: 52
EN: 58
5/4/4/5/70/ -10 Eva
Badly Poisoned (2 DPA)
Taunted (4a)
Spikes (2 layers)
Pre-Round stats:
Lady Tremaine
HP: 100
EN: 81
1/2/5/3/95
Reflect (4a)
Plants vs Zombies
HP: 73
EN: 71
5/4/4/5/70/ -10 Eva
Badly Poisoned (1 DPA)
Spikes (2 layers)
Pointed Spikes dug into PvZ! (18 DMG)
Action 1
Tremaine used Substitute! (20 HP, 18 EN)
Tremaine set up a Substitute!
Shadow Ball -> Tremaine (5 EN)
RNG roll (to hit, <=8300 hit) 6079 = hit
RNG roll (to crit) 4338 = crit
(8+3+(4-3)1.5)(1.5) = 18.75 DMG
The substitute took the damage!
Toxic -> PvZ (1 DMG)
Action 2
Shadow Sneak -> Tremaine (3 EN)
RNG roll (to hit, <=9100 hit) 959 = hit
RNG roll (to crit) 8966 = no crit
(2+3+(5-2)1.5)(1.5) = more than 1.5
The substitute faded!
Taunt -> PvZ (10 EN)
PvZ fell for the Taunt!
Toxic -> PvZ (1 DMG)
Action 3
Tremaine used Substitute! (20 HP, 18 EN)
Tremaine set up a Substitute!
Shadow Ball -> Tremaine (5 EN)
RNG roll (to hit, <=8300 hit) 9484 = miss
The attack missed!
Toxic -> PvZ (1 DMG)
Action 1
Tremaine used Substitute! (20 HP, 18 EN)
Tremaine set up a Substitute!
Shadow Ball -> Tremaine (5 EN)
RNG roll (to hit, <=8300 hit) 6079 = hit
RNG roll (to crit) 4338 = crit
(8+3+(4-3)1.5)(1.5) = 18.75 DMG
The substitute took the damage!
Toxic -> PvZ (1 DMG)
Action 2
Shadow Sneak -> Tremaine (3 EN)
RNG roll (to hit, <=9100 hit) 959 = hit
RNG roll (to crit) 8966 = no crit
(2+3+(5-2)1.5)(1.5) = more than 1.5
The substitute faded!
Taunt -> PvZ (10 EN)
PvZ fell for the Taunt!
Toxic -> PvZ (1 DMG)
Action 3
Tremaine used Substitute! (20 HP, 18 EN)
Tremaine set up a Substitute!
Shadow Ball -> Tremaine (5 EN)
RNG roll (to hit, <=8300 hit) 9484 = miss
The attack missed!
Toxic -> PvZ (1 DMG)
Due to an incredibly abusable sub, Objection is now lightyears behind Subway in terms of energy, but disregarding the Substitute, isn't that far ahead in terms of HP either! Even though everyone has predicted a curbstomp by Objection here, one false move next round might flip it over to a come-from-way-behind victory by Subway (don't tell me its not possible, I'm trying to create suspense!)
Post-Round stats:
Lady Tremaine
HP: 60
EN: 25
1/2/5/3/95
Substitute (20 HP)
Reflect (1a)
Plants vs Zombies
HP: 52
EN: 58
5/4/4/5/70/ -10 Eva
Badly Poisoned (2 DPA)
Taunted (4a)
Spikes (2 layers)
Bad forewarn hax is bad :( I better get
My own forewarn Hax this round
Shadow Ball-Shadow Sneak-Shadow Claw
If Reflect is used A2 or A3, replace A3 with Shadow Ball
My own forewarn Hax this round
Shadow Ball-Shadow Sneak-Shadow Claw
If Reflect is used A2 or A3, replace A3 with Shadow Ball
Woohoo! Not late this time!
Pre-Round stats:
Lady Tremaine
HP: 60
EN: 25
1/2/5/3/95
Substitute (20 HP)
Reflect (1a)
Plants vs Zombies
HP: 52
EN: 58
5/4/4/5/70/ -10 Eva
Badly Poisoned (2 DPA)
Taunted (4a)
And after an intense round of huge blows, both of the Pokemon look like they are about to keel over! However, while PvZ almost has no choice but to fall to poison next round, Lady Tremaine is about to fall over from energy loss! Can Objection stall this out (the answer is probably!), or will Subway find a way to take Lady Tremaine out before PvZ falls (the answer is probably not!)?
Post-Round stats:
Lady Tremaine
HP: 38
EN: 8
1/2/5/3/95
Plants vs Zombies
HP: 7
EN: 46
5/4/4/5/70/ -10 Eva
Badly Poisoned (3 DPA)
Pre-Round stats:
Lady Tremaine
HP: 60
EN: 25
1/2/5/3/95
Substitute (20 HP)
Reflect (1a)
Plants vs Zombies
HP: 52
EN: 58
5/4/4/5/70/ -10 Eva
Badly Poisoned (2 DPA)
Taunted (4a)
Action 1
Psychic -> PvZ (4+(4/2) = 6 EN)
RNG roll (to crit) 2349 = no crit
RNG roll (to lower) 5308 = no lower
(10+3+(5-5)1.5) = 13 DMG
Shadow Ball -> Tremaine (5 EN)
RNG roll (to hit) 4765 = hit
RNG roll (to crit) 930 = no crit
(8+3+(4-3)1.5)(1.5) = 18.75 DMG
The substitute took the damage!
Toxic -> PvZ (2 DMG)
Action 2
Shadow Sneak -> Tremaine (3 EN)
RNG roll (to hit) 607 = hit
RNG roll (to crit) 1544 = no crit
(4+3+(5-2)1.5)(1.5) = 17.25 DMG
The substitute faded!
Psyshock -> PvZ (5 EN)
RNG roll (to crit) 9823 = no crit
(8+3+(5-4)1.5) = 12.5 DMG
Toxic -> PvZ (2 DMG)
Action 3
Psychic -> PvZ (4+(4/2) = 6 EN)
RNG roll (to crit) 3596 = no crit
RNG roll (to lower) 7776 = no lower
(10+3+(5-5)1.5) = 13 DMG
Shadow Claw -> Tremaine (4 EN)
RNG roll (to hit) 2763 = hit
RNG roll (to crit) 3273 = no crit
(7+3+(5-2)1.5)(1.5) = 21.75 DMG
Toxic -> PvZ (2 DMG)
Psychic -> PvZ (4+(4/2) = 6 EN)
RNG roll (to crit) 2349 = no crit
RNG roll (to lower) 5308 = no lower
(10+3+(5-5)1.5) = 13 DMG
Shadow Ball -> Tremaine (5 EN)
RNG roll (to hit) 4765 = hit
RNG roll (to crit) 930 = no crit
(8+3+(4-3)1.5)(1.5) = 18.75 DMG
The substitute took the damage!
Toxic -> PvZ (2 DMG)
Action 2
Shadow Sneak -> Tremaine (3 EN)
RNG roll (to hit) 607 = hit
RNG roll (to crit) 1544 = no crit
(4+3+(5-2)1.5)(1.5) = 17.25 DMG
The substitute faded!
Psyshock -> PvZ (5 EN)
RNG roll (to crit) 9823 = no crit
(8+3+(5-4)1.5) = 12.5 DMG
Toxic -> PvZ (2 DMG)
Action 3
Psychic -> PvZ (4+(4/2) = 6 EN)
RNG roll (to crit) 3596 = no crit
RNG roll (to lower) 7776 = no lower
(10+3+(5-5)1.5) = 13 DMG
Shadow Claw -> Tremaine (4 EN)
RNG roll (to hit) 2763 = hit
RNG roll (to crit) 3273 = no crit
(7+3+(5-2)1.5)(1.5) = 21.75 DMG
Toxic -> PvZ (2 DMG)
And after an intense round of huge blows, both of the Pokemon look like they are about to keel over! However, while PvZ almost has no choice but to fall to poison next round, Lady Tremaine is about to fall over from energy loss! Can Objection stall this out (the answer is probably!), or will Subway find a way to take Lady Tremaine out before PvZ falls (the answer is probably not!)?
Post-Round stats:
Lady Tremaine
HP: 38
EN: 8
1/2/5/3/95
Plants vs Zombies
HP: 7
EN: 46
5/4/4/5/70/ -10 Eva
Badly Poisoned (3 DPA)
Not a huge difference, but I used Shadow Claw A2, not shadow Ball, this should make a difference (although slight!)
Only a difference of 3 more DMG for 1 less EN, but sorry about that. I guess that's what you get when you try to ref as fast as possible :/
Confusion - Psychic - Confusion
If she uses a combo of Shadow Sneak and Horn Leech and this would be considered a legit combo, change that action to Chill and the following action to Psychic.
If she uses a protective/evasive move while not taunted and did not use a protective/evasive move on the previous action, change that action to Chill and the following action to Psychic.
If she uses a combo of Shadow Sneak and Horn Leech and this would be considered a legit combo, change that action to Chill and the following action to Psychic.
If she uses a protective/evasive move while not taunted and did not use a protective/evasive move on the previous action, change that action to Chill and the following action to Psychic.
Wait wait wait, hold everything, I just realized, I've been taunted for 6actions, not five. Because you count the action I was taunted cause I move second! This I know, is going to impact Objections moves so I won't do anything until this is resolved
ObjEDIT: Actually, I think I'll keep my orders as they are.
ObjEDIT: Actually, I think I'll keep my orders as they are.
Oh, sorry about that. Since Objection already said he'd keep his actions the same, go ahead and order Subway
Darn, I was hoping he'd switch xD
Anyways
Darn, I thought I could trick him into switching xD
Shadow Sneak+Synthesis-Cooldown (Shadow Claw)-Shadow Claw
If the above combo would not work (which I doubt it will), use Shadow Claw+Shadow Sneak that action instead
GG Objection, was closer than I expected!
Anyways
Darn, I thought I could trick him into switching xD
Shadow Sneak+Synthesis-Cooldown (Shadow Claw)-Shadow Claw
If the above combo would not work (which I doubt it will), use Shadow Claw+Shadow Sneak that action instead
GG Objection, was closer than I expected!
Bumpity doo da!
Yeah, sorry about the lateness again, but homework has been a real bitch.
Obviously the 10 BAP combo doesn't deal 40 DMG, and Confusion does indeed deal 4 DMG. Yay laziness?
Objection gets 2 CC
Captain Hook the Arghonaut gets 3 MC and 1 KOC
Cruella de Vil the Roserade gets 3 MC
Lady Tremaine the Jynx gets 3 MC and 2 KOC
Subway gets 2 CC
Angry Birds the Cyclohm gets 3 MC and 1 KOC
Carcassonne the Conkeldurr gets 3 MC and 1 KOC
Plants vs Zombies the Necturna gets 3 MC
I get 7 UC
Great game you guys, and I wish that this battle would lead to a bit of discussion for the pros and cons of signature moves, but they were already vetoed by Deck Knight... so yeah.
Obviously the 10 BAP combo doesn't deal 40 DMG, and Confusion does indeed deal 4 DMG. Yay laziness?
Objection gets 2 CC
Captain Hook the Arghonaut gets 3 MC and 1 KOC
Cruella de Vil the Roserade gets 3 MC
Lady Tremaine the Jynx gets 3 MC and 2 KOC
Subway gets 2 CC
Angry Birds the Cyclohm gets 3 MC and 1 KOC
Carcassonne the Conkeldurr gets 3 MC and 1 KOC
Plants vs Zombies the Necturna gets 3 MC
I get 7 UC
Great game you guys, and I wish that this battle would lead to a bit of discussion for the pros and cons of signature moves, but they were already vetoed by Deck Knight... so yeah.
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