Require Help For My Research

I need help for my damage formula research. What I require is very simple.

I just need to know how much damage a powerful physical move will do to a Level 100 Blissey in Diamond/Pearl. If you don’t have a Level 100 Blissey, then a Level 90 Blissey or above is also fine.

I have the following restrictions for the move. The move used against Blissey must:

1) Have a fixed move power. Earthquake and Crunch are fine; Return and Gyro Ball are not.
2) Not have STAB. This is extremely important.
3) Not be supereffective against Blissey. So no fighting moves, please.
4) Deal more than 140 damage to Blissey. The more, the better.

Good examples are: Garchomp using Stone Edge, Metagross using Earthquake, Torterra using Crunch.

After doing this, please post the following information:

The Pokemon used against Blissey
The move used against Blissey
The Pokemon’s Level
The Pokemon’s Attack stat
Blissey’s Level
Blissey’s Defense stat
How much damage Blissey received from repeated usage of the move.

Here’s a made-up example:

Level 100 Salamence with 400 Attack stat using Earthquake versus
Level 100 Blissey with 120 Defense stat
Damage dealt after using Earthquake 5 times: 267, 248, 262, 253, 276.

This would help me immensely in my research. I will tell you what I’m about after crunching your numbers and get to my conclusion.

Thanks in advance!

Okay, so I didn't receive any reply for help, so I tried to do this myself.

Thing is, I don't have Wi-Fi, and I don't have Blissey, so I went with a Level 24 Chansey to test things out. Problem is, every wild Pokemon I found either did too little damage or OHKOed Chansey with the move. So I sat there with a stupid look in my face.

I'm calling out for help for the second time. I saw in a few of your warstories that a few of you do have Blissey. So please can two of you team up and test this thing? It doesn't take more than a few minutes, and it'll be valuable information for me. If I don't receive any replies again, I'll have to give up on this, sadly. :[

I'm willing to help, and I'll ask someone who has a Blissey to test this out, don't know when though, hopefully today but I wont have much time if its not today until suday.

As a general rule, given how few people have DP at this point, you may be better off asking people directly. :]

Good luck to you, in any case.

PabloMeza said:

I'm willing to help, and I'll ask someone who has a Blissey to test this out, don't know when though, hopefully today but I wont have much time if its not today until suday.

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Thanks a lot PabloMeza.

If there's somebody else who can help, I'd appreciate the input of more than one person, so don't shy away just because PabloMeza is gonna help. ;]

I have a Lv.100 Blissey (well, 652/119 CM Blissey), so I could test this out, but I have to wait for the weekends

That's cool, Jibaku. I can wait. :]

Jibaku said:

I have a Lv.100 Blissey (well, 652/119 CM Blissey), so I could test this out, but I have to wait for the weekends

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We can do that for our battle on Sunday if that works for you, before or after I don't mind.

Thanks to PabloMeza, I am 99% sure about what I was researching.

The random number in the damage formula is a whole number between 85 and 100, and then divided by 100.

The reason is as follows.

I wanted to check whether the random number is either

1) between 85 and 100, and then divided by 100, or
2) between 217 and 255, and then divided by 255.

If the maximum damage is, say, 80, then, in case (1), the possible damage would be 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79 or 80. In case (2), the possible damage would be 68, 69, 70, 71, 72, 73, 74, 75, 76, 77, 78, 79 or 80 too. So there's nothing to differentiate between the two cases.

However, if the maximum damage is large, like, for example, 300, then, in case (1), the possible damage would be 255, 258, 261, 264, 267, 270, 273, 276, 279, 282, 285, 288, 291, 294, 297 or 300. In case (2), the possible damage would be 255, 256, 257, 258, ... etc. up to 300. So, the second case would generate 256, 257, 259, 260, etc. damage, which are impossible in case (1).

So I wanted some test cases with a large amount of damage to determine which of the two cases is correct. Thus, I needed a Pokemon that was capable to take a large amount of damage without being OHKOed. A Pokemon with high HP and low defense is perfect in this regard. And what Pokemon is better for this than Blissey?

To keep things simple, I also left out STAB and supereffectiveness.

PabloMeza provided the following data:

Rampardos Level 100 with Attack 468 using Earthquake versus Blissey Level 100 with Defense 130

280 damage
295 damage
262 damage
268 damage
292 damage

I checked, and the Rampardos should have done one of the following damage amounts in case (1): 256, 259, 262, 265, 268, 271, 274, 277, 280, 283, 286, 289, 292, 295, 298, 302. For case (2), there are more numbers than this.

The fact that, in those five tries, all the numbers correspond to case (1) means that there is a very high probability that case (1) is correct. And hence, I concluded that the random number is between 85 and 100, and then divided by 100.

If anyone wants to test this further to confirm this, feel free to do so.