The Pokemon Gold and Silver Remake Theory

Alright, so we (my friend and I) had this idea that a remake of Gold and Silver might be made for the Nintendo DS.

After two month of research and hard work, we completed a video full of hard evidence of why a remake would be made, and why not.

I will put the link to the video here, but I will also write down the outline that we made for better understanding.

**NOTE: We made this video for information purposes only. We are not saying if a remake will come out or not, we just showing facts.**

Here's the link to the actual video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvin09sPjGo

(note: 1. Steven and Zohar are our real names, if you are wondering ><
2. We actually found a thread on Smogon forums that gave us important information for the video, and we also credited the forums for that)

And here's the outline (the content is the same as the video):


Gold and Silver Remake: Will it Happen?

A Speculation by Steven and Zohar


I.Reasons Why There Might be One

A.In-Game References from D/P

1.The SecretPotion mentions Cianwood City, a city in the Johto region.

2.In Hearthome City, the man who gives you an egg mentions Professor Elm, the main professor in the Johto region.

3.Jasmine, the sixth gym leader in the Johto region, makes an appearance in Sunyshore City and mentions how her town has a lighthouse. This is an obvious reference to Olivine City in Johto.

4.The time of day and day of the week return in D/P, something that only appeared in the G/S/C series.

5.Several cities and routes are identical. Ecruteak City in Johto is similar to Celestic and Eterna cities in Sinnoh, Olivine City in Johto is similar to Canalave and Sunyshore in Sinnoh, Mahogany Town in Johto is similar to Snowpoint City in Sinnoh, and Routes 38 and 39 in Johto are similar to Routes 209 and 210 in Sinnoh.

6.Sweet Honey, an item in Sinnoh that can catch Pokemon in certain trees, is similar to headbutting trees in Johto.

7.Time of day battles and Pokemon appearances returned in D/P, another feature that was only in G/S.

8.The Red Gyarados is mentioned a few times in D/P. The Red Gyarados had to be dealt with in the Lake of Rage, in Johto.

9.Like in G/S, in D/P the rival can be battled twice a week on certain days after the final battle with him.

10.Like G/S, D/P introduced new Eevee evolutions.


II.Reasons Why There Might Not be One

A.Acquirable Pokémon

1.As it is, all Pokémon are acquirable. Even special Pkmn like Mew or Celebi are acquirable through special events.

2.A remake would only guarantee a 100% chance of acquiring certain legendaries like the three cats, Lugia, Ho-Oh, and possibly Celebi.

3.In the past, it seems Nintendo has only been concerned about what can be acquired, not quality of gameplay.

B.TMs/HMs

1.Although the game designers of FR/LG were able to match R/S/E’s TMs and HMs, it will be harder to match G/S’s TMs and HMs to D/P.

2.First of all, some TMs in G/S were made into HMs and some HMs into TMs or learned moves in later games. Some examples include Rock Smash, a TM in G/S that was made into a HM in later games, and Whirlpool, which was an HM, was learned only through level-up in later games, and Flash, a HM from games before D/P, was made into a TM in D/P.

3. Also, with the expansion of 50 TMs/HMs to 90+, a remake of G/S would have to deal with that.

C.Time Capsule

1.In G/S, the time capsule allowed the trade with R/B/Y.

2.If there were to be a remake, the time capsule or a different system would have to be compatible with R/S/E/FR/LG.

D.Cities and Towns

1.Cities and towns would have to be expanded to meet the standards of D/P.

2.In D/P, the sizes of some towns are the size of some cities in past games, and cities are about twice or two and a half times the size of towns in D/P.

III.Fan Remakes and Hoaxes

A.Fan Remakes

1.Using a ROM of FR/LG, hackers changed the entire game to make it like G/S. This glitched, hacked ROM was dubbed “ShinyGold Version.”

2.ShinyGold featured a FR/LG-style landscape of G/S, and followed the same gameplay.

3.However, the music was from FR/LG, and the overall gameplay was glitchy.

4.Some other fan remakes include a spin-off of Crystal Version, with the name Crystallized Echoes.

B.Hoaxes

1.Recently, a magazine in Japan had a “sneak-peek” of the cover of the new “G/S remake.”

2.This sparked controversy, with many people saying it was real and some saying it was a total fake. Unfortunately, it was a fake.

3.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y13B_v94wYA&mode=related&search (the fake "game")

C.How is it a Hoax?

1.If the cover of the game were released, there would have been a considerable amount of information about the game already.

2.Nintendo would have mentioned the release at a press conference.

3.Someone skilled with Photoshop could easily do something like that.

4.If someone leaked information about the release of a remake by giving away game plans or images, Nintendo would sue whoever leaked information.

IV.Things to Look Out For

A.Artwork

1.When FR/LG were released, the artwork of Pkmn 1-150 including some Johto Pkmn was updated from their original metallic shades. (Give examples in video).

2.When more Johto Pkmn’s artworks are updated, that is a sign that there might be a remake.

B.Fakes

1.By using information from section III, fakes and real games can be distinguished.

C.New Releases and Press Conferences

1.Whenever there is a release of a new Pkmn game that is not a traditional RPG, check to see if it mentions anything “coming soon.”

2.Read the news. See whenever Nintendo will mention something like a remake at a press conference.
 
I've been hoping for a remake of Silver Version ever since they remade R/B Versions. Silver Version has been my favorite version so far, and a remake would be even better. Also, you forgot that D/P brought back the massaging/haircuts from G/S.
 
Also, I can't help but think that the Sunyshore background music reminds me of a Pokemon Stadium 2 track, but I can't remember which one...
 
Gold, Silver and Crystal are arguably the best games in the series, due to the sheer amount of land to explore and the length of the storyline (if you can call it that).

Competitive battling has made a massive move since then, and a remake incorporating the current metagame would quite literally be heaven on earth.
 
quoting similarities between two things is NOT empirical evidence for anything ever. It is often coincidence. Saying two cities are similar or the addition of two eevee evolutions in two different gens is quite simply faulty evidence.

The hard references in the game, such as Jasmine mentioning her hometown or Johto being a programmed location is the evidence we have.

You're reading way too much into things here, almost like it's a conspiracy theory and you're definately grasping at straws.

On the lighter side of things: It was nice to see all the hard evidence compiled in a single place. Have a read through this ongoing thread. Some bogus lameness does kind of make things lame in it, but there's some good points in there that are good speculation (and nothing more). Logic prevails in these good speculations: http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?p=663525#post663525
 
I would love to see a GSC remake. That is definitly my favorite set in the whole series. But I have to second Majesty when he says that a lot of things are pure coincidence. The whole Espeon/Umbreon and Glaceon/Leafeon arguement is kinda bad, because Glaceon and Leafeon could have popped up in any generation. (3rd, 4th, or future.)
 
Hi, I am PokeGS's friend and the main contributer to the video. We were only trying to see similarities. Yes, I know, and I agree, it was faulty evidence, because there are similarities between towns in ALL generations. Also, new Eevee evolutions could have come out of nowhere in any given generation after G/S/C. But hey, we just wanted to present what we thought was of interest (to us, anyway.) Just don't call us lame, okay? We put a lot of hard effort into it, and those seven minutes you are watching took two months of research, compiling, outlining, and editing.
 
Johto Location Data

Another reason they may have a remake is that Johto is programmed in the game as a location for Pokemon.
Yes. By the way, I am sorry that the word "Johto" did not appear on those Chikoritas. About that: hackers posted a picture of two Chikoritas when they acquired them with the Johto location data. This shows that there is obvious proof of Johto location data in D/P.
 
Sorry man, didn't mean to be so cold; I tried to end on a positive note just to avoid that. I respect that you did this, I really do. I'd love to see you guys compile a version of just hard evidence for us as well. Just was trying to point out the flaws I mentioned (of which the town comparison and the eevee thing were just examples to alert you that your thinking was infact flawed).

Hope you make the video featuring the hard evidence.
 
Hi, I am PokeGS's friend and the main contributer to the video. We were only trying to see similarities. Yes, I know, and I agree, it was faulty evidence, because there are similarities between towns in ALL generations. Also, new Eevee evolutions could have come out of nowhere in any given generation after G/S/C. But hey, we just wanted to present what we thought was of interest (to us, anyway.) Just don't call us lame, okay? We put a lot of hard effort into it, and those seven minutes you are watching took two months of research, compiling, outlining, and editing.

Definitely fun to watch/listen to (imo) I'm sure if more people look at it more light heartedly as just a presentation of your ideas and info, and not so much that you're trying to prove anything, they will appreaciate the effort as well.
 
I'm up for a remake. It means we can soft reset for Suicune and Raikou! Not to mention Ho-oh and Lugia, that's already possible, but you can Sync to get better natures for all of them.
 
About the time capsule. A trade back feature would be cool but I think they would just replace it with a pal-park or something =/
 
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