Treecko (Analysis) [GP 3/3]

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[Overview]

<p>Treecko has only gone further downhill since DPP. This unfortunate little gecko struggles to adapt against new threats such as Ferroseed and Larvesta as well as old enemies such as Houndour and Bronzor. Yet, with a passable base 70 Speed and base 65 Special Attack, Treecko stands out as one of the few attacking Grass-types in Little Cup that does not rely on the weather. Overall, Treecko might not always the best choice for a team, but it's definitely worth considering for originality or to fulfill a particular niche.</p>

[SET]
name: Attacking Lead
move 1: Leaf Storm
move 2: Hidden Power Fire
move 3: Giga Drain
move 4: Quick Attack
item: Eviolite / Focus Sash
ability: Overgrow
nature: Hasty / Naive
evs: 36 HP / 240 SpA / 200 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Treecko's Attacking Lead set from DPP is still perfectly capable of functioning in the BW metagame. Leaf Storm is Treecko's most powerful STAB move and hits common leads such as Hippopotas very hard. Hidden Power Fire provides excellent additional coverage, smacking Grass- and Steel-types switching in to soak up Leaf Storm, such as Snover, Ferroseed, and Bronzor. Giga Drain serves as an alternative STAB that also provides recovery in a pinch. Quick Attack is used in the last slot to finish off weakened enemies and frail sweepers such as Wingull.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>A Hasty nature gives Treecko slightly more Special Defense, while a Naive nature brings both defensive stats up to 15 when using Eviolite. Eviolite is the preferred item here to help Treecko take more attacks, but Focus Sash can also be used to ensure that Treecko gets at least one hit in before going down. Be aware, though, that priority and weather can render the Focus Sash useless. Endeavor and Counter can be used over Giga Drain and Quick Attack if Treecko is using a Focus Sash, but this strategy is often too risky for use.</p>

<p>Ferroseed and Bronzor have a high chance of OHKOing Treecko with Gyro Ball and Hidden Power Ice, respectively, if they can avoid switching into an attack. Treecko also has problems with Dragon-types such as Dratini, which wall it. Meowth and Houndour, which were among Treecko's counters last generation, are still two threats that Treecko is unable to take on. Larvesta and Litwick can switch into any move Treecko has and retaliate with a super effective STAB move. Aron and other Rock-types can get rid of Larvesta and Meowth, while Houndour can be dealt with by using a bulky Water-type such as Omanyte.</p>

[SET]
name: Swords Dance
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Bullet Seed
move 3: Drain Punch
move 4: Rock Slide / Hidden Power Ice
item: Life Orb / Eviolite
ability: Overgrow
nature: Naive / Jolly
evs: 236 Atk / 200 Spe
ivs: 3 HP

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Though Treecko has a higher Special Attack stat, access to Swords Dance and a better physical movepool make it a decent physical sweeper. Bullet Seed and Drain Punch both became more powerful this generation, allowing Treecko to use them more effectively. Bullet Seed is Treecko's best physical STAB move, and the fact that it breaks through Substitutes means that users of the move will be unable to effectively check Treecko. Drain Punch replaces Giga Drain as a source of recovery while still hitting most Steel-types hard. Rock Slide is the preferred option for superior coverage, but Hidden Power Ice can be used to hit Dragon-types and opposing Grass-types harder.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>3 HP IVs keeps Hidden Power Ice at 70 Base Power while giving Treecko 19 HP, minimizing Life Orb recoil. Eviolite is an option over Life Orb for the extra bulk, but Treecko usually needs the increased damage output. A Naive nature should be used if Hidden Power Ice is used, while a Jolly nature is the recommended option if Treecko is using Rock Slide. Return and Acrobatics are other options in the fourth slot to hit Croagunk, but they offer less coverage than the aforementioned options. Substitute is an alternative to a coverage move in the fourth slot to avoid getting downed by priority and Choice Scarf users. The choice between Hidden Power Ice and Rock Slide determines what Treecko's teammates should be able to take down. If Treecko lacks Hidden Power Ice, then Croagunk will be able to take any of its moves with ease. However, if Treecko doesn't have Rock Slide, then Litwick and Larvesta will resist all of its attacks.</p>

<p>A good Fire- or Psychic-type can be used to scare away Croagunk, the former also being able to take the Fire-, Bug-, and Ice-type attacks aimed at Treecko. Litwick and Larvesta aren't very common, but nevertheless, Chinchou and Slowpoke are recommended to deal with these foes. As with any other sweeper, Treecko also likes dual screen and entry hazard support, and Baltoy and Turtwig have access to all of them. Both share an Ice-type weakness with Treecko, but this is usually covered by the previously mentioned teammates such as Chinchou, Slowpoke, and Houndour.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>Choice items might seem like a good idea, but they are not recommended due to Treecko's average attacking stats. Crunch and Pursuit hit Ghost- and Psychic-types, but they offer inferior coverage to Treecko's other moves. Treecko also has access to Leech Seed and Synthesis, but its frailty prevents it from being able to use them effectively. Energy Ball is an excellent STAB move, but Giga Drain is superior because it provides recovery. Brick Break is another good option, but like Energy Ball, it is outclassed by a recovery move. GrassWhistle would be a good alternative on the Lead set if it weren't for its poor accuracy. Lastly, Treecko has Agility, which could work on its own set had Treecko been blessed with higher offenses.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>Like many fast sweepers, Treecko hates priority users; Croagunk in particular resists most of its attacks on both sets. Treecko is also easily revenge killed by Choice Scarf users such as Houndour and Chinchou. Litwick is problematic for both sets as it can take all of Treecko's attacks bar Rock Slide and the rarely seen Crunch and OHKO with a STAB Fire Blast. Bulky Poison-types such as Skorupi can come in on Bullet Seed and Drain Punch and strike down Treecko with a STAB attack. Ferroseed and Bronzor take even a Drain Punch comfortably and threaten a KO with Gyro Ball or, in Bronzor's case, Hidden Power Ice.</p>

[Dream World]

<p>Treecko's Dream World ability is Unburden, which doubles its Speed if its item is used up or removed. This ability would be more useful than Overgrow for Treecko, but unfortunately, it only comes on a Level 10 male Treecko, making it illegal in Little Cup.</p>
 
Shadow Tag Litwick isn't released yet, so don't bother mentioning it.

I wouldn't even slash Brick Break with Drain Punch, they're basically the same thing but Drain Punch heals.

I'd pick more common things for Checks and Counters too. Gastly resists Grass and only fears Crunch and Pursuit. Ferroseed barely seems fair to call a check with Drain Punch and Hidden Power Fire.

Also Treecko wishes Unburden was legal because a physical set with Acrobatics+Flying Gem would be pretty amusing.
 
I really don't know how viable Treecko is as a set-up sweeper. Things like Gligar even can wall both sets and KO with Aerial Ace. Being the most common Pokemon in the metagame, Gligar is a terrible thing to be walled by. SD Treecko in particular is hideously weak and hardly worth it. Test out the attacking set from the Gen 4 Treecko analysis if you haven't already, as I would assume that is at the very least better than Swords Dance.

Choice Scarf isn't really viable at all. I'd like to point out that even with max attack, Treecko does 6 damage on average to Ferroseed with Drain Punch, 8 if it's a high damage roll. Have fun getting set up on.

I would honestly suggest scrapping the Scarf set and putting it in in OO at the most. Leaf Storm is the only reason to use it, and it doesn't pack the power to make it worth it.

Also, Ferroseed can take an HP Fire from the Agility set on average and OHKO Treecko with Gyro Ball.

Also, the Agility set is beaten by Houndour and Stunky, to name two pokes, as they can easily take a Dragonbreath or HP Fire and KO Treecko.
 
SD Treecko has 28 Attack after a Swords Dance, I'd keep that. It's not like Treecko does much else... Too bad it's pretty bad, Treecko is cool.
 
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SD Treecko has 28 Attack after a Swords Dance, I'd keep that. It's not like Treecko does much else... Too bad it's pretty bad, Treecko is cool.
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28 attack is not enough, especially when it's slow and dies to everything, like Gligar and Stunky. SERIOUSLY. It's not good, don't use it. Put it in OO if you really want to, but it's seriously not viable enough to be worth it. Try out the attacking lead set, that's much better than SD or Scarf.
 
Sorry, been busy lately, but I'll make the adjustments later. I honestly didn't see much potential in Treecko myself, but I just left the options up there for testing.

Also, I'm not sure of the Attacking Lead set's viability with all the priority and weather nowadays. I don't really see Focus Sash used very often in LC anymore.

Edit: Ok, adding the Attacking Lead set.
 
what the crap grasswhistle? I'd personally go Leaf Storm/HP Fire/Giga Drain/Quick Attack, because after a Leaf Storm, stuff will not be giving you free turns to Focus Punch, stuff will be killing your weakened ass. Maybe an OO mention, but 55 accuracy sucks and should not be taken seriously ever. Except in Gravity.

Return hits Croagunk on the physical set. So does Acrobatics.

Mention Agility in OO.

ScarfDour revenges it. So does Scarfchou. And...pretty much every scarfer? Maybe mention Substitute to kill priority and scarfers.

Dratini also shits all over the first set, Grasswhistle included.
 
Added. I was mostly using the Generation IV set on masterful's recommendation, but I wasn't sure about relying on Grasswhistle either.
 
Oh yay something I tried because of the little SD thing with masterful but at this point you got pretty much everything cleaned up with Darkamber's help.

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I'd switch the slashes on SD Treecko in the last slot to have Rock Slide first. It's better without Gligar around but at least HP Ice can do a lot to Grass-types.
 
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[Overview]
<p>Treecko has only gone further downhill since the Fourth Generation. This unfortunate little gecko struggles to adapt adapting against new Generation V threats like Ferroseed and Larvesta, and against old threats like Houndour and Bronzor. Yet with a passable base 70 Speed and base 65 Special Attack, Treecko stands out as one of the few attacking Grass-types in Little Cup that does not rely on the weather. Treecko isn't always the best choice for a team, but it's definitely worth considering for originality or to fulfill a particular niche.</p>

[SET]
name: Attacking Lead
move 1: Leaf Storm
move 2: Hidden Power Fire
move 3: Giga Drain
move 4: Quick Attack
item: Eviolite / Focus Sash
ability: Overgrow
nature: Hasty / Naive
evs: 36 HP / 240 SpA / 200 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Treecko's Attacking Lead set from Generation IV is still capable of functioning in the new generation's metagame. Leaf Storm is Treecko's most powerful STAB move and hits common leads such as Hippopotas. Hidden Power Fire is used for Snover and Bronzor or Ferroseed switching in. Giga Drain serves as an alternative STAB that provides recovery in a pinch. Quick Attack is used in the last slot to finish off weakened enemies and frail sweepers like Wingull. Eviolite is the preferred item here to help Treecko take more attacks, but Focus Sash can be used to ensure that Treecko gets at least one hit in before going down. Be aware that priority and weather can render the sash useless.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>A Hasty nature gives Treecko slightly more Special Defense, while a Naive nature brings makes both defensive stats up to 15 when using Eviolite. Endeavor and Counter can be used over Giga Drain and Quick Attack if Treecko is using a Focus Sash, but this strategy is often risky.</p>

<p>Ferroseed and Bronzor have a high chance to OHKO Treecko with Gyro Ball and Hidden Power Ice respectively if they are not switching into an attack. Treecko also has problems with Dragon-types like Dratini, who wall Treecko bar Quick Attack, which is not enough to beat them one on one. Meowth and Houndour, who were among Treecko's counters last generation, are still two threats that Treecko is unable to take on. Larvesta and Litwick can switch into any move Treecko has, the latter of which takes no damage one taking no damage. Aron and other Rock-types or can get rid of Larvesta and Meowth while Houndour can be dealt with by using a bulky Water-type water like Omanyte.</p>

[SET]
name: Swords Dance
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Bullet Seed
move 3: Drain Punch
move 4: Rock Slide / Hidden Power Ice
item: Life Orb / Eviolite
ability: Overgrow
nature: Naive / Jolly
evs: 236 Atk / 200 Spe
ivs: 3 HP

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Though Treecko has a higher Special Attack stat, access to Swords Dance and a better physical movepool make him capable of being a decent physical sweeper. Bullet Seed and Drain Punch both got more powerful this generation, allowing Treecko to use them more effectively. Bullet Seed is Treecko's best physical STAB move and is a viable method in breaking breaks through Substitutes. Drain Punch replaces Giga Drain as a source of recovery from the physical side, and also gives Treecko a method of hitting hits Steel-types. Rock Slide is the preferred option for coverage because Gligar is no longer a problem. Hidden Power Ice was used primarily for Gligar, but after Gligar was banned from Little Cup, its usefulness has been limited to hitting opposing Grass-types.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>3 HP IVs keep Hidden Power Ice at 70 base power while giving Treecko 19 HP to reduce the impact of Life Orb recoil. Eviolite, as always, is an option over Life Orb for the extra bulk, but Treecko usually needs the increased damage. A Naive nature should be used if Treecko carries Hidden Power Ice, and a Jolly nature is the recommended option if Treecko is using Rock Slide. Return and Acrobatics are other options in the fourth slot to hit Croagunk, but they offer less coverage then the aforementioned options otherwise. Substitute is an alternative to a coverage move in the fourth slot to avoid priority and Scarfed Pokemon. The choice between Hidden Power Ice and Rock Slide determines what Treecko's teammates should be able to take down. If Treecko lacks Hidden Power Ice, then Croagunk will be able to take any of his moves. However, if Treecko doesn't have Rock slide, then Litwick and Larvesta will resist all of his attacks.</p>

<p> A good Fire-type like Magby can be used to scare away Croagunk. Litwick and Larvesta aren't very common, but to be prepared, Chinchou and Slowpoke are recommended to deal with these foes. Treecko likes support from Reflect, Light Screen, Dual Screens and Stealth Rock, and so Baltoy or Turtwig have access to all of them set both of them up. Note that all three of them share an Ice-type weakness, but this is usually covered by the previously mentioned teammates, Chinchou, Slowpoke, and Magby.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>Choice items are not recommended due to Treecko's average attacking stats. Crunch and Pursuit hit Ghost-types and Psychic-types, but they offer inferior coverage to Treecko's other moves. Treecko also has access to Leech Seed and Synthesis, but its frailty prevents it from being able to use using them effectively. Energy Ball is an excellent STAB move, but Giga Drain is superior because it provides recovery. Brick Break is another good option, but like Energy Ball, it is outclassed by a recovery move. Grasswhistle would be a good alternative on the Attacking Lead set if it weren't for its low accuracy making it virtually unreliable. Lastly, Treecko has Agility, which could work on its own set had Treecko been blessed with higher offenses.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>Like many fast sweepers, Treecko hates priority users, especially Croagunk, who resists most of its attacks on both sets. Treecko is also easily revenge killed by those with a Choice Scarf, such as Scarfers like Houndour and Chinchou. Litwick is problematic for both sets as it can take all of Treecko's attacks bar Rock Slide and the rarely seen Crunch and OHKO with a STAB Fire Blast. Bulky Poison-types like Skorupi can come in on Bullet Seed or and Drain Punch and strike down Treecko with a STAB attack. Ferroseed and Bronzor can take a Drain Punch and threaten it with Gyro Ball or, in Bronzor's case, Hidden Power Ice.</p>

[Dream World]

<p>Treecko's Dream World ability is Unburden, which doubles Treecko's Speed if its his item is lost. This ability would be more useful than Overgrow for Treecko, but unfortunately, it only comes on a Level level 10 male Treecko, so it is illegal in Little Cup.</p>

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[Overview]
<p>Treecko has only gone further downhill since the Fourth Generation. This unfortunate little gecko struggles to adapt against new Generation V threats like Ferroseed and Larvesta, and against old threats like Houndour and Bronzor. Yet with a passable base 70 Speed and base 65 Special Attack, Treecko stands out as one of the few attacking Grass-types in Little Cup that does not rely on the weather. Treecko isn't always the best choice for a team, but it's definitely worth considering for originality or to fulfill a particular niche.</p>

[SET]
name: Attacking Lead
move 1: Leaf Storm
move 2: Hidden Power Fire
move 3: Giga Drain
move 4: Quick Attack
item: Eviolite / Focus Sash
ability: Overgrow
nature: Hasty / Naive
evs: 36 HP / 240 SpA / 200 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Treecko's Attacking Lead set from Generation IV is still capable of functioning in the new generation's metagame. Leaf Storm is Treecko's most powerful STAB move and hits common leads such as Hippopotas. Hidden Power Fire is used for Snover and Bronzor or Ferroseed switching in. Giga Drain serves as an alternative STAB that provides recovery in a pinch. Quick Attack is used in the last slot to finish off weakened enemies and frail sweepers like Wingull. Eviolite is the preferred item here to help Treecko take more attacks, but Focus Sash can be used to ensure that Treecko gets at least one hit in before going down. Be aware that priority and weather can render the sash useless.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>A Hasty nature gives Treecko slightly more Special Defense while a Naive nature brings both defensive stats up to 15 when using Eviolite. Endeavor and Counter can be used over Giga Drain and Quick Attack if Treecko is using a Focus Sash, but this strategy is often risky.</p>

<p>Ferroseed and Bronzor have a high chance to OHKO Treecko with Gyro Ball and Hidden Power Ice, respectively, if they are not switching into an attack. Treecko also has problems with Dragon-types like Dratini, who wall Treecko bar Quick Attack, which is not enough to beat them one on one. Meowth and Houndour, who were among Treecko's counters last generation, are still two threats that Treecko is unable to take on. Larvesta and Litwick can switch into any move Treecko has, the latter of which takes no damage. Aron and other Rock-types or can get rid of Larvesta and Meowth while Houndour can be dealt with by using a bulky Water-type like Omanyte.</p>

[SET]
name: Swords Dance
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Bullet Seed
move 3: Drain Punch
move 4: Rock Slide / Hidden Power Ice
item: Life Orb / Eviolite
ability: Overgrow
nature: Naive / Jolly
evs: 236 Atk / 200 Spe
ivs: 3 HP

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Though Treecko has a higher Special Attack stat, access to Swords Dance and a better physical movepool make him capable of being a decent physical sweeper. Bullet Seed and Drain Punch both gotbecame more powerful this generation, allowing Treecko to use them more effectively. Bullet Seed is Treecko's best physical STAB move and is a viable method in breaking through Substitutes. Drain Punch replaces Giga Drain as a source of recovery from the physical side and also gives Treecko a method of hitting Steel-types. Rock Slide is the preferred option for coverage because Gligar is no longer a problem. Hidden Power Ice was used primarily for Gligar, but after Gligar was banned from Little Cup, its usefulness has been limited to hitting opposing Grass-types.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>3 HP IVs keep Hidden Power Ice at 70 base power while giving Treecko 19 HP to reduce the impact of Life Orb recoil. Eviolite is an option over Life Orb for the extra bulk, but Treecko usually needs the increased damage. A Naive nature should be used if Treecko carries Hidden Power Ice and a Jolly nature is the recommended option if Treecko is using Rock Slide. Return and Acrobatics are other options in the fourth slot to hit Croagunk, but they offer less coverage than the aforementioned options. Substitute is an alternative to a coverage move in the fourth slot to avoid priority and Scarfed Pokemon. The choice between Hidden Power Ice and Rock Slide determines what Treecko's teammates should be able to take down. If Treecko lacks Hidden Power Ice, then Croagunk will be able to take any of his moves. However, if Treecko doesn't have Rock slide, then Litwick and Larvesta will resist all of his attacks.</p>

<p> A good Fire-type like Magby can be used to scare away Croagunk. Litwick and Larvesta aren't very common, but to be prepared, Chinchou and Slowpoke are recommended to deal with these foes. Treecko likes support from Reflect, Light Screen and Stealth Rock, and Baltoy or Turtwig have access to all of them. Note that all three of them share an Ice-type weakness, but this is usually covered by the previously mentioned teammates, Chinchou, Slowpoke, and Magby.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>Choice items are not recommended due to Treecko's average attacking stats. Crunch and Pursuit hit Ghost-types and Psychic-types, but they offer inferior coverage to Treecko's other moves. Treecko also has access to Leech Seed and Synthesis, but its frailty prevents it from being able to use them effectively. Energy Ball is an excellent STAB move, but Giga Drain is superior because it provides recovery. Brick Break is another good option, but like Energy Ball, it is outclassed by a recovery move. Grasswhistle would be a good alternative on the Lead set if it weren't for its low accuracy making it unreliable. Lastly, Treecko has Agility, which could work on its own set had Treecko been blessed with higher offenses.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>Like many fast sweepers, Treecko hates priority users, especially Croagunk, who resists most of its attacks on both sets. Treecko is also easily revenge killed by those with a Choice Scarf, such as Houndour and Chinchou. Litwick is problematic for both sets as it can take all of Treecko's attacks bar Rock Slide and the rarely seen Crunch and OHKO with a STAB Fire Blast. Bulky Poison-types like Skorupi can come in on Bullet Seed and Drain Punch and strike down Treecko with a STAB attack. Ferroseed and Bronzor can take a Drain Punch and threaten it with Gyro Ball or, in Bronzor's case, Hidden Power Ice.</p>

[Dream World]

<p>Treecko's Dream World ability is Unburden, which doubles Treecko's Speed if its item is lost. This ability would be more useful than Overgrow for Treecko, but unfortunately, it only comes on a Level 10 male Treecko, so it is illegal in Little Cup.</p>
 
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[Overview]
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<p>Treecko has only gone further downhill since the Fourth Generation. This unfortunate little gecko struggles to adapt against new Generation V threats like Ferroseed and Larvesta, and against old threats like Houndour and Bronzor. Yet with a passable base 70 Speed and base 65 Special Attack, Treecko stands out as one of the few attacking Grass-types in Little Cup that does not rely on the weather. Treecko isn't always the best choice for a team, but it's definitely worth considering for originality or to fulfill a particular niche.</p>

[SET]
name: Attacking Lead
move 1: Leaf Storm
move 2: Hidden Power Fire
move 3: Giga Drain
move 4: Quick Attack
item: Eviolite / Focus Sash
ability: Overgrow
nature: Hasty / Naive
evs: 36 HP / 240 SpA / 200 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Treecko's Attacking Lead set from Generation IV is still capable of functioning in the new generation's metagame. Leaf Storm is Treecko's most powerful STAB move and hits common leads such as Hippopotas. Hidden Power Fire is used for Snover and Bronzor or Ferroseed switching in. Giga Drain serves as an alternative STAB that provides recovery in a pinch. Quick Attack is used in the last slot to finish off weakened enemies and frail sweepers like such as Wingull. Eviolite is the preferred item here to help Treecko take more attacks, but Focus Sash can be used to ensure that Treecko gets at least one hit in before going down. Be aware that priority and weather can render the sash useless.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>A Hasty nature gives Treecko slightly more Special Defense,[comma] while a Naive nature brings both defensive stats up to 15 when using Eviolite. Endeavor and Counter can be used over Giga Drain and Quick Attack if Treecko is using a Focus Sash, but this strategy is often risky.</p>

<p>Ferroseed and Bronzor have a high chance to OHKO Treecko with Gyro Ball and Hidden Power Ice, respectively, if they are not switching into an attack. Treecko also has problems with Dragon-types such as like Dratini, who which wall Treecko.[period] even with Quick Attack, Treecko is still walled by them, so there isn't really a need to mention =>that bar Quick Attack, which is not enough to beat them one on one. Meowth and Houndour, who which were among Treecko's counters last generation, are still two threats that Treecko is unable to take on. Larvesta and Litwick can switch into any move Treecko has, the latter of which takes taking no damage. doesn't Litwick still take damage from Leaf Storm and Giga Drain? do you mean "taking little damage"? Aron and other Rock-types can get rid of Larvesta and Meowth,[comma] while Houndour can be dealt with by using a bulky Water-type like such as Omanyte.</p>

[SET]
name: Swords Dance
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Bullet Seed
move 3: Drain Punch
move 4: Rock Slide / Hidden Power Ice
item: Life Orb / Eviolite
ability: Overgrow
nature: Naive / Jolly
evs: 236 Atk / 200 Spe
ivs: 3 HP

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Though Treecko has a higher Special Attack stat, access to Swords Dance and a better physical movepool make him it capable of being a decent physical sweeper. Bullet Seed and Drain Punch both became more powerful this generation, allowing Treecko to use them more effectively. Bullet Seed is Treecko's best physical STAB move and is a viable method in breaking through Substitutes. Drain Punch replaces Giga Drain as a source of recovery from the physical side and also gives Treecko a method of hitting Steel-types. Rock Slide is the preferred option for coverage because Gligar is no longer a problem. Hidden Power Ice was used primarily for Gligar, but after Gligar was banned from Little Cup, its usefulness has been limited to hitting opposing Grass-types.</p> not sure if you need these statements regarding Gligar, I would just say that HP Ice is good for hitting opposing Grass-, Dragon-, and Flying-types that resist Grass.

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>3 HP IVs keep Hidden Power Ice at 70 base power while giving Treecko 19 HP to reduce the impact of Life Orb recoil. Eviolite is an option over Life Orb for the extra bulk, but Treecko usually needs the increased damage. A Naive nature should be used if Treecko carries Hidden Power Ice and a Jolly nature is the recommended option if Treecko is using Rock Slide. Return and Acrobatics are other options in the fourth slot to hit Croagunk, but they offer less coverage than the aforementioned options. Substitute is an alternative to a coverage move in the fourth slot to avoid priority and Scarfed Choice Scarf Pokemon. The choice between Hidden Power Ice and Rock Slide determines what Treecko's teammates should be able to take down. If Treecko lacks Hidden Power Ice, then Croagunk will be able to take any of his moves. However, if Treecko doesn't have Rock Slide, then Litwick and Larvesta will resist all of his attacks.</p>

<p> A good Fire-type like such as Magby is Magby really that common? can be used to scare away Croagunk. also, why Fire-type? A Psychic-type move would be the primary way to scare Croagunk, would it not? Or does it have something to do with Dry Skin? Litwick and Larvesta aren't very common, but to be prepared, Chinchou and Slowpoke are recommended to deal with these foes. Treecko likes support from Reflect, Light Screen and Stealth Rock, and Baltoy or Turtwig have access to all of them. Note that all three of them share an Ice-type weakness, but this is usually covered by the previously mentioned teammates, such as Chinchou, Slowpoke, and Magby.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>Choice items are not recommended due to Treecko's average attacking stats. Crunch and Pursuit hit Ghost-types and Psychic-types, but they offer inferior coverage to Treecko's other moves. Treecko also has access to Leech Seed and Synthesis, but its frailty prevents it from being able to use them effectively. Energy Ball is an excellent STAB move, but Giga Drain is superior because it provides recovery. Brick Break is another good option, but like Energy Ball, it is outclassed by a recovery move. Grasswhistle would be a good alternative on the Lead set if it weren't for its low accuracy making it unreliable. Lastly, Treecko has Agility, which could work on its own set had Treecko been blessed with higher offenses.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>Like many fast sweepers, Treecko hates priority users, especially Croagunk, who which resists most of its attacks on both sets. Treecko is also easily revenge killed by those with a Choice Scarf, such as Houndour and Chinchou. Litwick is problematic for both sets as it can take all of Treecko's attacks bar Rock Slide and the rarely seen Crunch and OHKO with a STAB Fire Blast. Bulky Poison-types like such as Skorupi can come in on Bullet Seed and Drain Punch and strike down Treecko with a STAB attack. Ferroseed and Bronzor can take a Drain Punch and threaten it with Gyro Ball or, in Bronzor's case, Hidden Power Ice.</p>

[Dream World]

<p>Treecko's Dream World ability is Unburden, which doubles Treecko's Speed if its item is lost. This ability would be more useful than Overgrow for Treecko, but unfortunately, it only comes on a Level 10 male Treecko, so it is illegal in Little Cup.</p>
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[Overview]

<p>Treecko has only gone further downhill since the Fourth 4th Generation. This unfortunate little gecko struggles to adapt against new Generation V threats like such as Ferroseed and Larvesta, and against as well as old threats like enemies such as Houndour and Bronzor. Yet, with a passable base 70 Speed and base 65 Special Attack, Treecko stands out as one of the few attacking Grass-types in Little Cup that does not rely on the weather. Treecko isn't Overall, Treecko might not always the best choice for a team, but it's definitely worth considering for originality or to fulfill a particular niche.</p>

[SET]
name: Attacking Lead
move 1: Leaf Storm
move 2: Hidden Power Fire
move 3: Giga Drain
move 4: Quick Attack
item: Eviolite / Focus Sash
ability: Overgrow
nature: Hasty / Naive
evs: 36 HP / 240 SpA / 200 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Treecko's Attacking Lead set from Generation IV is still perfectly capable of functioning in the new generation's BW metagame. Leaf Storm is Treecko's most powerful STAB move and hits common leads such as Hippopotas very hard. Hidden Power Fire is used for Snover and Bronzor or Ferroseed switching in provides excellent additional coverage, smacking Grass- and Steel-types switching in to soak up Leaf Storm, such as Snover, Ferroseed, and Bronzor. Giga Drain serves as an alternative STAB that also provides recovery in a pinch. Quick Attack is used in the last slot to finish off weakened enemies and frail sweepers like such as Wingull. Eviolite is the preferred item here to help Treecko take more attacks, but Focus Sash can be used to ensure that Treecko gets at least one hit in before going down. Be aware that priority and weather can render the sash useless.</p> (Discuss the item options in AC only, not in Set Comments. For particulars, go through the Analysis Formatting Guide.)

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>A Hasty nature gives Treecko slightly more Special Defense, while a Naive nature brings both defensive stats up to 15 when using Eviolite. Eviolite is the preferred item here to help Treecko take more attacks, but Focus Sash can also be used to ensure that Treecko gets at least one hit in before going down. Be aware, though, that priority and weather can render the Focus Sash useless. Endeavor and Counter can be used over Giga Drain and Quick Attack if Treecko is using a Focus Sash, but this strategy is often too risky for use.</p>

<p>Ferroseed and Bronzor have a high chance to of OHKOing Treecko with Gyro Ball and Hidden Power Ice, respectively, if they are not switching into an attack can avoid switching into an attack. Treecko also has problems with Dragon-types such as Dratini, which wall Treecko it. Meowth and Houndour, which were among Treecko's counters last generation, are still two threats that Treecko is unable to take on. Larvesta and Litwick can switch into any move Treecko has and retaliate with a super effective STAB move. Aron and other Rock-types can get rid of Larvesta and Meowth, while Houndour can be dealt with by using a bulky Water-type such as Omanyte.</p>

[SET]
name: Swords Dance
move 1: Swords Dance
move 2: Bullet Seed
move 3: Drain Punch
move 4: Rock Slide / Hidden Power Ice
item: Life Orb / Eviolite
ability: Overgrow
nature: Naive / Jolly
evs: 236 Atk / 200 Spe
ivs: 3 HP

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Though Treecko has a higher Special Attack stat, access to Swords Dance and a better physical movepool make it capable of being a decent physical sweeper. Bullet Seed and Drain Punch both became more powerful this generation, allowing Treecko to use them more effectively. Bullet Seed is Treecko's best physical STAB move, and the fact that it breaks through Substitutes means that users of the move will be unable to effectively check Treecko is a viable method in breaking through Substitutes. Drain Punch replaces Giga Drain as a source of recovery from the physical side and also gives Treecko a method of hitting ensures that while still hitting most Steel-types hard. Rock Slide is the preferred option for superior coverage, but Hidden Power Ice can be used to hit Dragon-types and opposing Grass-types harder.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>3 HP IVs keep Hidden Power Ice at 70 Base Power while giving Treecko 19 HP, to reduce the impact of minimizing Life Orb recoil. Eviolite is an option over Life Orb for the extra bulk, but Treecko usually needs the increased damage output. A Naive nature should be used if Treecko carries Hidden Power Ice is used, while and a Jolly nature is the recommended option if Treecko is using Rock Slide. Return and Acrobatics are other options in the fourth slot to hit Croagunk, but they offer less coverage than the aforementioned options. Substitute is an alternative to a coverage move in the fourth slot to avoid getting downed by priority and Choice Scarf Pokemon users. The choice between Hidden Power Ice and Rock Slide determines what Treecko's teammates should be able to take down. If Treecko lacks Hidden Power Ice, then Croagunk will be able to take any of his its moves with ease. However, if Treecko doesn't have Rock Slide, then Litwick and Larvesta will resist all of his its attacks.</p>

<p>A good Fire- or Psychic-type can be used to scare away Croagunk, the former also being able to take the Fire-, Bug-, and Ice-type attacks aimed at Treecko. Litwick and Larvesta aren't very common, but to be prepared nevertheless, Chinchou and Slowpoke are recommended to deal with these foes. As with any other sweeper, Treecko also likes dual screen and entry hazard support from Reflect, Light Screen and Stealth Rock, and Baltoy or and Turtwig have access to all of them. Note that all three of them Bothshare an Ice-type weakness with Treecko, but this is usually covered by the previously mentioned teammates such as Chinchou, Slowpoke, and Houndour.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>Choice items might seem like a good idea, but they are not recommended due to Treecko's average attacking stats. Crunch and Pursuit hit Ghost-types and Psychic-types, but they offer inferior coverage to Treecko's other moves. Treecko also has access to Leech Seed and Synthesis, but its frailty prevents it from being able to use them effectively. Energy Ball is an excellent STAB move, but Giga Drain is superior because it provides recovery. Brick Break is another good option, but like Energy Ball, it is outclassed by a recovery move. Grasswhistle would be a good alternative on the Lead set if it weren't for its low poor accuracy making it unreliable (this is understood). Lastly, Treecko has Agility, which could work on its own set had Treecko been blessed with higher offenses.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>Like many fast sweepers, Treecko hates priority users; especially Croagunk, which in particular resists most of its attacks on both sets. Treecko is also easily revenge killed by those with a Choice Scarf such as, such as Houndour and Chinchou. Litwick is problematic for both sets as it can take all of Treecko's attacks bar Rock Slide and the rarely seen Crunch and OHKO with a STAB Fire Blast. Bulky Poison-types such as Skorupi can come in on Bullet Seed and Drain Punch and strike down Treecko with a STAB attack. Ferroseed and Bronzor can take a even a Drain Punch comfortably and threaten it a KO with Gyro Ball or, in Bronzor's case, Hidden Power Ice.</p>

[Dream World]

<p>Treecko's Dream World ability is Unburden, which doubles Treecko's its Speed if its item is lost used up or removed. This ability would be more useful than Overgrow for Treecko, but unfortunately, it only comes on a Level 10 male Treecko, so it is making it illegal in Little Cup.</p>

Mainly tidied up the prose; there was also an issue with repeated uses of ''Treecko'' when you can just ''it'' - keep that in mind. Otherwise,

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