Xatu (uber analysis) GP [2/2]

polop · Aug 19, 2011

Taken over from hugendugen who got quality control checks original thread is here, ready for gp checks.
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Xatu

[Overview]

Although Xatu's extremely underwhelming stats may make it seem like an odd choice for an Uber team , its wonderful ability, Magic Bounce, makes it an excellent supporter and stallbreaker. With Magic Bounce, Xatu walls Ferrothorn and Forretress, completely turning the tables on them by reflecting their entry hazards and status moves. Xatu's high base 95 Speed enables it to get the upper hand on the base 90s that swamp Ubers, allowing it to invest in its Defense. Anyone who uses this feline bird with proper prediction can be confident that stall will not disturb their team. However, not everything is fun and games for Xatu. Its poor base 70 Special Defense and a weakness to the very rocks it reflects make life hard for this bird. This does not mean it is outclassed by the only other Magic Bounce Pokemon; the more specially defensive Espeon, as Xatu has better physical bulk. Regardless, the support Xatu's ability provides still makes it an excellent choice for any Uber team. 

[SET]
name: Dual Screens
move 1: Reflect
move 2: Light Screen
move 3: Roost
move 4: Night Shade / Hidden Power Fire / Toxic
item: Light Clay / Leftovers
ability: Magic Bounce
nature: Bold
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

Xatu is able to completely prevent Ferrothorn, Forretress, Skarmory, Tentacruel, Deoxys-D, and Deoxys-S from setting up any entry hazards. It can make use of these free turns to support its team with Light Screen and Reflect, making it a great choice for offensive and stall teams alike. Its physical bulk, immunity to Ground-type moves, 4x resistance to Fighting, and access to reliable recovery in the form of Roost enable it to tank several physical attacks, which is something that its competitor, Espeon, cannot do. For example, Ferrothorn 2HKOes Espeon with Gyro Ball or Power Whip, but is unable to do the same to Xatu. Its physical bulk enables it to wall even most defensive Groudon, reflecting the Stealth Rock this land behemoth attempts to set up and throwing up a Reflect to tank incoming Stone Edges. Magic Bounce not only reflects hazards, but status moves such as Taunt, Encore, Whirlwind, and Roar; therefore, with accurate prediction, Xatu makes a nice switch-in to Darkrai's signature Dark Void (although beware of it's unreliable 80% accuracy), Taunt from the Deoxys formes, and Whirlwind from Lugia. Such talents are what make it a fantastic stall killer. 

In the final moveslot, Night Shade provides the most consistent damage, while sun support lets Hidden Power Fire 2HKO the most specially defensive Ferrothorn and OHKO all Forretress once Sturdy is broken. Although Toxic leaves you ineffectual against these two Steel-types, Xatu can still PP stall Ferrothorn, and Toxic allows Xatu to wear down the likes of Ho-Oh, Groudon, and Lugia. 

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

Light Clay is obviously the preferred item for a dual screen supporter, but Leftovers is viable to ensure greater longevity against Ferrothorn's Gyro Ball, Groudon's Stone Edge, or Dialga's Draco Meteor. Xatu can also run a set with Wish and U-turn for additional team support. However, its Wishes are rather small due to Xatu's low Base HP and this will reduce its longevity. Nonetheless, if such a set is desired, a Relaxed nature and 0 Speed IVs may be used to take a hit before Xatu's teammate is brought in.

Xatu works well with anything that dislikes hazards, such as Ho-Oh or Kyogre, or benefits from screens, such as Rayquaza and Cloyster. However, it particularly enjoys Giratina-O and Groudon support. The former can block Forretress's Rapid Spin, and if you are brave, even be switched back for Xatu to nab another layer of hazards. Meanwhile, Groudon provides sun for Giratina-O or Xatu to pound Ferrothorn and Forretress with a boosted HP Fire. It furthermore checks several of Xatu's biggest threats, including Zekrom, Terakion, and Tyranitar. Ho-Oh also fits nicely into this combination, taking advantage of the lack of Stealth Rock and the sun from Groudon. 

With no investment in its paltry base 70 base Special Defense, Xatu is OHKOed by all of Kyogre's attacks and Draco Meteor from any specially offensive Dragon-type. However, correct prediction and Light Screen will allow the bird to wall Dialga and Scarf Palkia. Both Chansey and Ferrothorn provide excellent support by taking advantage of the lack of hazards while soaking up these troublesome special attacks. Lastly, it should be noted that Dialga, Tyranitar, Deoxys-A, and Offensive Groudon can all set up Stealth Rock, but can also OHKO Xatu. Hence, Xatu requires a fairly high level of prediction to prevent Stealth Rock entirely. 

[Other Options]

A set with Toxic / Hidden Power Fire / Roost / Night Shade can be an effective stall breaker. It allows Xatu to take full advantage of its immunity to Roar, Whirlwind, and decent physical bulk to destroy common Spikers. A Calm Mind set with Psyshock, Hidden Power Fire, and Roost can also make use of Magic Bounce to set up and possibly sweep. However, it will struggle against Giratina-O and Espeon is a more effective user of this strategy due to the fact it has better Special Attack, Special Defense and Speed. Finally, Xatu has the ability to set up Trick Room and proceed to U-turn to a more capable attacker. This not only sets up slower Pokemon for a sweep, but also prevents the entry hazards that, for instance, weaken Kyogre's Water Spout. Xatu's lack of special bulk and Trick Room's -7 priority may prevent it from surviving long enough to twist the dimensions, though. 

[Checks and Counters]

Xatu can prevent Stealth Rock from being set up, wall Ferrothorn and Forretress, and set up dual screens. That is unfortunately pretty much the extent of Xatu's abilities. Its base stats often leave it overwhelmed in Ubers, as Kyogre, Palkia, Mewtwo, Shaymin-S, and most variants of specially offensive Arceus can happily switch in on all of Xatu's attacks, bar Toxic, and OHKO or 2HKO with their powerful special attacks. Dialga and Deoxys-A can do the same, but are even more threatening as they have access to Stealth Rock. Furthermore, the former has a Toxic immunity that leaves Xatu useless against it. Zekrom can also switch into anything but Toxic and OHKO with Bolt Strike or Fusion Bolt, although Choice Scarf variants will only manage a 2HKO if Reflect is up. Tyranitar deserves a special mention since it also sets up Stealth Rock, and can hit Xatu for super effective damage with Pursuit. Pursuit from Life Orb or Choice Band Tyranitar does well over 50% to Xatu even with Reflect up and will OHKO if Xatu switches. Offensive Groudon is also troublesome as Xatu will often switch in to catch Stealth Rock or Earthquake only to be outsped and OHKOed by a super effective Stone Edge. Xatu also fears Choice Scarf Terrakion and Victini in the sun, as they both always 2HKO Xatu and have a decent chance of OHKOing even through Reflect. Choice Band Metagross is not threatened by any of Xatu's moves and can continue to Meteor Mash until it gets an Attack boost or a critical hit for an OHKO. Scizor and Heracross can also annoy Xatu by hitting it with powerful Bug-type STAB moves when it Roosts, but they will take huge damage from Hidden Power Fire in sun.

hamiltonion · Aug 25, 2011

Um i not to good at grammar and my comma's but even i can tell that your grammar especially capitalization is really bad. Here's just a small check:

Although Xatu may seem like an odd choice for an ubers Ubers team in the metagame (remove the space between, meta and game) when looking at its base stats, it makes an excellent supporter and stall breaker courtesy of its wonderful ability, magic mirror Magic Bounce. With magic mirror Magic Bounce by its side, Xatu walls ferrothorn and forretress, reflecting their spikes and statuses they fling at them giving the player essentially a free turn or hazard. Xatu's high base 95 speed Speed enables it to get the upper hand on the base 90s that swamp ubers which enables it to invest in its defense Defense and become a bit physically bulky........

Before submitting it for GP checks you might want to weed out these capitalization errors and there are many.

Also you might to take a look at the Grammar Standards thread since it would help you weed out such errors.

polop · Aug 25, 2011

Will recheck and make grammar and capitalization changes, I read the article earlier but I forgot to make some obvious changes.

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Lemonade · Aug 30, 2011

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[Overview]

Although Xatu may seem like an odd choice for an Uber team in the metagame when looking at its base stats, it makes an excellent supporter and stall breaker courtesy of its wonderful ability, Magic Bounce. With Magic Bounce by its side,[comma] Xatu walls Ferrothorn and Forretress, reflecting their spikes and statuses and they fling at them giving the player essentially a free turn or entry hazard. Xatu's high base 95 Speed enables it to get the upper hand on the base 90s that swamp Ubers,[comma] which enables it to invest in EVs its Defense and become a bit physically bulky. Anyone who uses this feline bird with great prediction can be confident that stall will not cannot disturb his team by utilizing their ability to predict. However,[comma] everything is not fun-and-games for Xatu. Its poor base Special Defense base stat of 70 and a weakness to the very rocks he reflects makes life hard for this bird. This does not mean it is outclassed by Espeon (the only other Magic Bounce Pokemon), the only other Pokemon fortunate enough to gain Magic Bounce, which has higher Special Defense than Xatu, as the totem bird [rephrase as you will] has better physical bulk. with a higher Special Defense base due to xatu’s better physical bulk. Regardless, the support Xatu's ability provides still makes it an excellent choice for any Uber team. 

[SET]
name: Dual Screens
move 1: Reflect
move 2: Light Screen
move 3: Roost
move 4: Night Shade/Hidden Power Fire/Toxic
item: Light Clay/Leftovers
ability: Magic Bounce
nature: Bold
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

Xatu's ability to completely prevent Ferrothorn, Forretress, Skarmory, Tentacruel and Deoxys-S from setting up any Hazards enables it to easily come in and set up screens, making it great support for offensive and stall teams alike. It's physical bulk, Flying typing type, and access to Roost enable it to tank several physical attacks, something that it's competitor,[space]Espeon, cannot do. For example, Ferrothorn's Gyro Ball or Power Whip 2HKO Espeon, but are unable to do the same to Xatu. doesn’t fear in fear of being 2hko’d by Ferrothorn's Gyro Ball and Power Whip. Xatu's Its physical bulk enables it to even wall most of Groudon's defensive sets, reflecting the Stealth Rocks this land behemoth sets up it sets up and throwing up Reflect to tank the incoming Stone Edges. and set up a reflect before groudon moves to tank stone edges well. Magic Bounce not only reflects hazards, but status moves, Taunt, Encore, Whirlwind, and Roar. and non-damaging phazing moves. With the correct prediction, Xatu makes a nice switch-in to Darkrai's signature Dark Void (although beware of a terribly annoying 80% accuracy), Taunt from the Deoxys formes, and Whirlwind from Lugia. Such talents are what make it a fantastic stall killer. this makes it a nice switch-in to bounce back Darkrai’s signature Dark Void (although beware a terribly annoying 80% accuracy), Taunt from a virtually extinct Deo-S, and Whirlwind from Lugia, makes Xatu a great stall killer. 

In the final moveslot, Night Shade provides the most consistent damage, while sun support lets Hidden Power Fire 2HKO the most specially defensive bulky Ferrothorn and OHKO all Forretress, outside of Sturdy. Although Toxic may seem odd since it leaves you ineffectual against these two Steel-types steels, Xatu can still PP Stall Ferrothorn and Toxic it allows you Xatu to wear down the likes of Ho-oh, Groudon,[comma] and Lugia. 

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

Light Clay is obviously the preferred item for a dual screener user, but Leftovers can be used instead is viable to ensure greater longevity while behind screens against Ferrothorn’s[change this apostrophe to a straight one, and the next ones] Gyro Ball,[comma] and moves like Groudon’s Stone Edge,[comma] or Dialga’s Draco Meteor, while behind screens. Xatu can also run a Wish / U-turn set for additional team support. However, its wishes are rather small and it will lack longevity when compared to using Roost. If a Wish U-turn set is desired, a Relaxed nature may be used with 0 speed ivs to take a hit before wish-passing to its teammate.

Xatu works well with anything that dislikes hazards, such as Ho-oh or Kyogre, or benefits from Screens, like such as Rayquaza and Cloyster. It,[comma] however,[comma] particularly enjoys Giratina-O and Groudon support. Gira-O The former can absorb Forretress’ Forretress's Rapid Spin, and if you are brave, even switch back to Xatu to nab another layer of hazards. Meanwhile,[comma] Groudon provides the sun for Giratina-O or Xatu to pound Ferrothorn[space]/[space]Forretress with a boosted HP Fire,[comma] and checks several of Xatu’s[apostrophe] biggest threats, including Zekrom, Terakion,[comma] and Tyranitar. Ho-oh also fits nicely into this combination, taking advantage of the lack of Stealth Rocks and the sun from Groudon. 

With only 70 base SpD and no investment, Xatu is OHKO’d OHKOed by all of Kyogre's Kyogre’s attacks and Draco Meteor from any specially offensive Dragon-type. However,[comma] correct prediction and Light Screen will allow the bird it to wall Dialga and Scarf Palkia. Both Chansey and Ferrothorn provide excellent support, taking advantage of the lack of hazards while soaking up these troublesome special attacks. Since Dialga, Tyranitar, Deoxys-A,[comma] and Offensive Groudon can all set up Rocks, but also OHKO depending on which move they choose, Xatu does require a fairly high level of prediction to prevent Stealth Rocks entirely. 

[OTHER OPTIONS]

A set with [spaces inbetween slash, I think] Toxic/HP Fire/Roost/Night Shade can allow Xatu to function as an effective stall breaker, taking advantage of its immunity to Roar, Whirlwind, and decent physical bulk to destroy its enemy's an spiker. A Calm Mind set with Psyshock, HP Fire,[comma] and Roost can also take advantage of Xatu’s immunity to Roar, Whirlwind,[comma] and status moves to set up and possibly sweep. However,[comma] it will struggle against Giratina-O,[comma] and Espeon might actually be a more effective user of this strategy, [remove comma] due to the fact it has recieves better SpA, SpD and Spe. Finally, Xatu also has the ability to set up Trick Room and proceed to U-turn to a more capable attacker. In this way, it not only helps by distorting time and space for slower pokemon, but also by preventing the entry hazards that,[comma] for instance,[comma] weaken Kyogre’s Kyogre's Water Spout. Xatu's lack of special bulk and Trick Room's -7 priority may prevent it from ever living to twist the dimensions,comma though,comma] especially when a Draco Meteor is fired at it. 

[CHECKS AND COUNTERS]

Xatu can prevent Stealth Rock from being set up, wall [capitalize] ferrothorn and forretress, and set up screens.[period] That is unfortunately the extent of Xatu's abilities. but thats about it. It's poor Special Defense and Special Attack stat is often the bane of its existence,[comma] as Kyogre, Palkia, Mewtwo, Skymin (2HKO),[comma] and most Specially Offensive Arceus can happily switch in on all of Xatu’s apostrophe attacks, bar Toxic, and OHKO with their powerful special attacks. Dialga and Deoxys-A can do the same, but are even more threatening since they have access to Stealth Rocks.[period] Furthermore, the former has a Toxic immunity that leaves Xatu useless against it. and the ladder having its Poison immunity that leaves Xatu helpless against it. Zekrom can also switch into all but Toxic and OHKO with Bolt Strike or Fusion Bolt, although Choice Scarf variants will only 2HKO if Reflect is up. Tyranitar deserves a special mention since it also sets up Stealth Rock, but can also hit Xatu for super effective damage with Pursuit. Pursuit from Life Orb or and Choice Band Tyranitar does well over 50% to Xatu with Reflect up and will OHKO if it switches. Offensive Groudon is also troublesome since Xatu will often switch in to catch Stealth Rock or Earthquake, but will watch in horror as it is outsped and OHKO’d OHKOed by a super effective Stone Edge. Xatu also fears Choice Scarf Terrakion and Victini in the sun,[comma] as they both always 2HKO Xatu and have a decent chance of OHKOing even through Reflect. Choice Band Metagross is not threatened by any of Xatu’s Xatu's moves and can continue to Meteor Mash until it gets an attack boost or crits critical hit for an OHKO. Scizor and Heracross can also annoy Xatu, hitting it with powerful Bug-type STAB moves when it Roosts,[comma] but they will take huge damage from Hidden Power Fire in the sun.

polop · Aug 31, 2011

Thanks for the long, unofficial Halloween style gp check:D. Your GP check has been implemented, and now the analysis looks much less daunting to the other members of the GP team.

EDIT: Don't want to rebump already but the later checks up to deimos's nitpick has been implemented.

EDIT 2: Wait Vox is now a member of the GP team, so does his GP check count?

sirndpt · Sep 19, 2011

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Although Xatu's extremely underwhelming base stats may make it seem like an odd choice for an Uber team ~~when looking at its base stats~~, ~~it makes an excellent supporter and stall breaker courtesy of~~ its wonderful ability, Magic Bounce, makes it an excellent supporter and stallbreaker. With Magic Bounce ~~by its side~~, Xatu walls Ferrothorn and Forretress, completely turning the tables on them by reflecting their ~~spikes~~ entry hazards and statuses ~~and giving the player essentially a free turn or entry hazard~~. Xatu's high base 95 Speed enables it to get the upper hand on the base 90s that swamp Ubers, which ~~enables~~ allows it to invest ~~EVs~~ in its Defense instead. Anyone who uses this feline bird totem pole bird? it never struck me as being particularly feline with ~~great~~ proper prediction can be confident that stall will not disturb his team. However, not everything is ~~not~~ fun-and-games for Xatu. Its poor base 70 Special Defense ~~stat of 70~~ and a weakness to the very rocks he reflects make life hard for this bird. This does not mean it is outclassed by Espeon (the only other Magic Bounce Pokemon) which has higher Special Defense than Xatu, as the totem pole has better physical bulk. Regardless, the support Xatu's ability provides still makes it an excellent choice for any Uber team. 

[SET]
name: Dual Screens
move 1: Reflect
move 2: Light Screen
move 3: Roost
move 4: Night Shade / Hidden Power Fire / Toxic
item: Light Clay / Leftovers
ability: Magic Bounce
nature: Bold
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

Xatu~~'s ability to~~ is able to completely prevent Ferrothorn, Forretress, Skarmory, Tentacruel, Deoxys-D, and Deoxys-S from setting up any entry hazards. ~~enables it to easily come in and set up screens~~ It can make use of these free turns to support its team with Light Screen and Reflect, making it a great support choice for offensive and stall teams alike. It's physical bulk, ~~flying type~~ immunity to Ground, 4x resistance to Fighting, and access to reliable, instant recovery in the form of Roost enable it to tank several physical attacks, something that it's main competitor, Espeon, cannot do. For example, Ferrothorn~~'s Gyro Ball or Power Whip~~ 2HKOes Espeon with Gyro Ball or Power Whip, but ~~are~~ is unable to do the same to Xatu. Its physical bulk enables it to ~~even~~ wall even most of defensive Groudon's defensive sets, reflecting the Stealth Rock this land behemoth attempts to sets up and throwing up a Reflect to tank incoming Stone Edges. Magic Bounce not only reflects hazards, but status moves, Taunt, Encore, Whirlwind, and Roar; therefore, with ~~the correct~~ accurate prediction, Xatu makes a nice switch-in to Darkrai's signature Dark Void (although beware of ~~a terribly annoying~~ its unreliable 80% accuracy), Taunt from the Deoxys formes, and Whirlwind from Lugia. Such talents are what make it a fantastic stall killer. 

In the final moveslot, Night Shade provides the most consistent damage, while sun support lets Hidden Power Fire 2HKO the most specially defensive Ferrothorn and OHKO all Forretress~~, outside of~~ once Sturdy is broken. Although Toxic may seem odd since it leaves you ~~ineffectual~~ helpless against these two Steel-types, Xatu can still PP stall Ferrothorn, and Toxic allows Xatu to wear down the likes of Ho-Oh, Groudon, and Lugia. 

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

Light Clay is obviously the preferred item for a dual screen~~er user~~ supporter, but Leftovers is viable to ensure greater longevity against Ferrothorn's Gyro Ball, Groudon's Stone Edge, or Dialga's Draco Meteor. Xatu can also run a ~~Wish /U-turn~~ set with Wish and U-turn for additional team support. However, its Wishes are rather small due to its low Base HP and ~~it will lack~~ this will reduce its longevity ~~when compared to using Roost~~. Nonetheless, if ~~a Wish U-turn~~ such a set is desired, a Relaxed nature and 0 Spe IVs may be used ~~with 0 speed ivs~~ to take a hit before ~~wish-passing to~~ its teammate is brought in.

Xatu works well with anything that dislikes hazards, such as Ho-Oh or Kyogre, or benefits from screens, such as Rayquaza and Cloyster. It, however, particularly enjoys Giratina-O and Groudon support. The former can absorb Forretress’ 's Rapid Spin, and if you are brave, even be switched back to for Xatu to nab another layer of hazards. Meanwhile, Groudon provides ~~the~~ sun for Giratina-O or Xatu to pound Ferrothorn / Forretress with a boosted HP Fire, and checks several of Xatu's biggest threats, including Zekrom, Terakion, and Tyranitar. Ho-Oh also fits nicely into this combination, taking advantage of the lack of Stealth Rock and the sun from Groudon. 

With ~~only~~ no investment in its paltry base 70 ~~base~~ SpD ~~and no investment~~, Xatu is OHKOed by all of Kyogre's attacks and Draco Meteor from any specially offensive Dragon-type. However, correct prediction and Light Screen will allow the bird to wall Dialga and Scarf Palkia. Both Chansey and Ferrothorn therefore provide excellent support, taking advantage of the lack of hazards while soaking up these troublesome special attacks. ~~Since~~ Lastly, it should be noted that Dialga, Tyranitar, Deoxys-A, and offensive Groudon can all set up Stealth Rocks, but can also OHKO Xatu. ~~depending on which move they choose,~~ Hence, Xatu ~~does~~ requires a fairly high level of prediction to prevent Stealth Rock entirely. 

[Other Options]

A set with Toxic / Hidden Power Fire / Roost / Night Shade can ~~allow Xatu to function as~~ be an effective stall breaker; ~~taking~~ this lets Xatu take full advantage of its immunity to Roar, Whirlwind, and decent physical bulk to destroy ~~an spiker~~ common Spikers. A Calm Mind set with Psyshock, Hidden Power Fire, and Roost can also ~~take advantage of Xatu’s immunity to Roar, Whirlwind, and status moves~~ make use of Magic Bounce to set up and possibly sweep. However, it will struggle against Giratina-O, and Espeon ~~might actually be~~ is a more effective user of this strategy due to the fact it has better SpA, SpD and Spe. Finally, Xatu has the ability to set up Trick Room and proceed to U-turn to a more capable attacker. ~~In this way, it not only helps by distorting time and space for slower pokemon~~ This not only sets up slower Pokemon for a sweep, but also ~~by preventing~~ prevents the entry hazards that, for instance, weaken Kyogre's Water Spout. Xatu's lack of special bulk and Trick Room's -7 priority may prevent it from ~~ever living~~ surviving long enough to twist the dimensions, though~~, especially when a Draco Meteor is fired at it~~. 

[Checks and Counters]

Xatu can prevent Stealth Rock from being set up, wall Ferrothorn and Forretress, and set up screens. That is unfortunately pretty much the extent of Xatu's abilities. It's ~~Special Defense and Special Attack stat is often the bane of its existence~~ poor base stats often leave it overwhelmed in Ubers, as Kyogre, Palkia, Mewtwo, ~~Skymin (2HKO)~~ Shaymin-S, and most variants of specially offensive Arceus can happily switch in on all of Xatu's attacks, bar Toxic, and OHKO or 2HKO with their powerful special attacks. Dialga and Deoxys-A can do the same, but are even more threatening since they have access to Stealth Rock. Furthermore, the former has a Toxic immunity that leaves Xatu useless against it. Zekrom can also switch into all but Toxic and OHKO with Bolt Strike or Fusion Bolt, although Choice Scarf variants will only 2HKO if Reflect is up. Tyranitar deserves a special mention since it also sets up Stealth Rock, but can also hit Xatu for super effective damage with Pursuit. Pursuit from Life Orb or Choice Band Tyranitar does well over 50% to Xatu even with Reflect up, and will OHKO if it switches. Offensive Groudon is also troublesome since Xatu will often switch in to catch Stealth Rock or Earthquake~~, but will watch in horror as it is~~ only to be outsped and OHKOed by a super effective Stone Edge. Xatu also fears Choice Scarf Terrakion and Victini in ~~the~~ sun, as they both always 2HKO Xatu and have a decent chance of OHKOing even through Reflect. Choice Band Metagross is not threatened by any of Xatu's moves and can continue to Meteor Mash until it gets an Attack boost or critical hit for an OHKO. Scizor and Heracross can also annoy Xatu, by hitting it with powerful Bug-type STAB moves when it Roosts, but they will take huge damage from Hidden Power Fire in ~~the~~ sun.

deimos · Sep 19, 2011

This is rather trivial, but...

Mr.lol said:
[Overview]

Although Xatu may seem like an odd choice for an Uber team when looking at its base stats, it makes an excellent supporter and stall breaker courtesy of its wonderful ability, Magic Bounce. With Magic Bounce by its side, Xatu walls Ferrothorn and Forretress, reflecting their spikes and statuses and giving the player essentially a free turn or entry hazard. Xatu's high base 95 Speed enables it to get the upper hand on the base 90s that swamp Ubers, which enables it to invest EVs its Defense. Anyone who uses this feline bird with great prediction can be confident that stall will not disturb his team. However, everything is not fun-and-games for Xatu. Its poor base Special Defense stat of 70 and a weakness to the very rocks he it reflects make life hard for this bird. This does not mean it is outclassed by Espeon (the only other Magic Bounce Pokemon) which has higher Special Defense then Xatu, as the totem has better physical bulk. Regardless, the support Xatu's ability provides still makes it an excellent choice for any Uber team.

Jellicent · Nov 22, 2011

Seeing as V0x and sirndpt are both now official GP checkers, do their two checks now count as stamp-worthy? That could speed up the process quite a bit. If not, I'm willing to take a crack at another amateur GP check.

Komodo · Nov 22, 2011

From reading the overview alone I think this needs at least one more check, but for now, I'll give it a stamp for the two checks done by V0x and sirndpt.

Oglemi · Nov 22, 2011

Jellicent please still do another check lol

Jellicent · Nov 22, 2011

Aye, aye, Cap'n. You got it!
Amateur GP Check:

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Taken over from hugendugen who got quality control checks original thread is here, ready for gp checks.
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Xatu

[Overview]

Although Xatu's extremely underwhelming stats may make it seem like an odd choice for an Uber team when looking at its base stats, its wonderful ability, Magic Bounce, makes it an excellent supporter and stallbreaker. With Magic Bounce, Xatu walls Ferrothorn and Forretress, completely turning the tables on them by reflecting their entry hazards and statuses. Xatu's high base 95 Speed enables it to get the upper hand on the base 90s that swamp Ubers, which allowings it to invest in its Defense. Anyone who uses this feline bird with proper prediction can be confident that stall will not disturb his their (Gender neutrality? It's up to you guys) team. However, not everything is fun and games for Xatu. Its poor base 70 Special Defense and a weakness to the very rocks it reflects make life hard for this bird. This does not mean it is outclassed by Espeon (the only other Magic Bounce Pokemon) which has higher Special Defense than Xatu the only other Magic Bounce Pokemon, the more specially defensive Espeon, as the totem pole (With this rewording, we can just say Xatu instead, but the totem pole has a certain charm to it and still reduces repetition) has better physical bulk. Regardless, the support Xatu's ability provides still makes it an excellent choice for any Uber team. 

[SET]
name: Dual Screens
move 1: Reflect
move 2: Light Screen
move 3: Roost
move 4: Night Shade / Hidden Power Fire / Toxic
item: Light Clay / Leftovers
ability: Magic Bounce
nature: Bold
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

Xatu is able to completely prevent Ferrothorn, Forretress, Skarmory, Tentacruel, Deoxys-D, and Deoxys-S from setting up any entry hazards. It can make use of these free turns to support its team with Light Screen and Reflect, making it a great choice for offensive and stall teams alike. It's physical bulk, immunity to Ground, 4x resistance to Fighting, and access to reliable, instant recovery in the form of Roost enable it to tank several physical attacks, which is something that it's competitor, Espeon, cannot do. For example, Ferrothorn 2HKOes Espeon with Gyro Ball or Power Whip, but is unable to do the same to Xatu. Its physical bulk enables it to wall even most defensive Groudon, reflecting the Stealth Rock this land behemoth attempts to set up and throwing up a Reflect to tank incoming Stone Edges. Magic Bounce not only reflects hazards, but status moves, Taunt, Encore, Whirlwind, and Roar; therefore, (Comma) with accurate prediction, Xatu makes a nice switch-in to Darkrai's signature Dark Void (although beware of it's unreliable 80% accuracy), Taunt from the Deoxys formes, and Whirlwind from Lugia. Such talents are what make it a fantastic stall killer. 

In the final moveslot, Night Shade provides the most consistent damage, while sun support lets Hidden Power Fire 2HKO the most specially defensive Ferrothorn and OHKO all Forretress once Sturdy is broken. Although Toxic may seem odd since it leaves you ineffectual against these two Steel-types, Xatu can still PP stall Ferrothorn, and Toxic allows Xatu to wear down the likes of Ho-Oh, Groudon, and Lugia. 

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

Light Clay is obviously the preferred item for a dual screen supporter, but Leftovers is viable to ensure greater longevity against Ferrothorn's Gyro Ball, Groudon's Stone Edge, or Dialga's Draco Meteor. Xatu can also run a set with Wish and U-turn set for additional team support. However, its Wishes are rather small due to Xatu's low Base HP and this will reduce its longevity. Nonetheless, if such a set is desired, a Relaxed nature and 0 Spe IVs may can be used to take a hit before its teammate is brought in.

Xatu works well with anything that dislikes hazards, such as Ho-Oh or Kyogre, or benefits from screens, such as Rayquaza and Cloyster. It, however, particularly enjoys Giratina-O and Groudon support. The former can absorb Forretress's Rapid Spin, and, (Comma) if you are brave, even be switched back for Xatu to nab another layer of hazards. Meanwhile, Groudon provides sun for Giratina-O or Xatu to pound Ferrothorn / and Forretress with a boosted HP Fire., and It furthermore checks several of Xatu's biggest threats, including Zekrom, Terakion, and Tyranitar. Ho-Oh also fits nicely into this combination, taking advantage of the lack of Stealth Rock and the sun from Groudon. 

With no investment in its paltry base 70 base SpD , Xatu is OHKOed by all of Kyogre's attacks and Draco Meteor from any specially offensive Dragon-type. However, correct prediction and Light Screen will allow the bird to wall Dialga and Scarf Palkia. Both Chansey and Ferrothorn therefore provide excellent support, by taking advantage of the lack of hazards while soaking up these troublesome special attacks. Lastly, it should be noted that Dialga, Tyranitar, Deoxys-A, and Offensive Groudon can all set up Stealth Rock, but can also OHKO Xatu. Hence, Xatu requires a fairly high level of prediction to prevent Stealth Rock entirely. 

[Other Options]

A set with Toxic / Hidden Power Fire / Roost / Night Shade can be an effective stall breaker.; this lets It allows Xatu take full advantage of its immunity to Roar, Whirlwind, and decent physical bulk to destroy common Spikers. A Calm Mind set with Psyshock, Hidden Power Fire, and Roost can also make use of Magic Bounce to set up and possibly sweep. However, it will struggle against Giratina-O and Espeon is a more effective user of this strategy due to the fact it has better SpA, SpD and Spe. Finally, Xatu has the ability to set up Trick Room and proceed to U-turn to a more capable attacker. This not only sets up slower Pokemon for a sweep, but also prevents the entry hazards that, for instance, weaken Kyogre's Water Spout. Xatu's lack of special bulk and Trick Room's -7 priority may prevent it from surviving long enough to twist the dimensions, though. 

[Checks and Counters]

Xatu can prevent Stealth Rock from being set up, wall Ferrothorn and Forretress, and set up screens. That is unfortunately pretty much the extent of Xatu's abilities. Its base stats often leave it overwhelmed in Ubers, as Kyogre, Palkia, Mewtwo, Shaymin-S and most variants of specially offensive Arceus can happily switch in on all of Xatu's attacks, bar Toxic, and OHKO or 2HKO with their powerful special attacks. Dialga and Deoxys-A can do the same, but are even more threatening since they have access to Stealth Rock. Furthermore, the former has a Toxic immunity that leaves Xatu useless against it. Zekrom can also switch into all anything but Toxic and OHKO with Bolt Strike or Fusion Bolt, although Choice Scarf varaiants will only 2HKO if Reflect is up. Tyranitar deserves a special mention since it also sets up Stealth Rock, but can also and can hit Xatu for super effective damage with Pursuit. Pursuit from Life Orb or Choice Band Tyranitar does well over 50% to Xatu even with Reflect up and will OHKO if it switches. Offensive Groudon is also troublesome since Xatu will often switch in to catch Stealth Rock or Earthquake only to be outsped and OHKOed by a super effective Stone Edge. Xatu also fears Choice Scarf Terrakion and Victini in the sun, as they both always 2HKO Xatu and have a decent chance of OHKOing even through Reflect. Choice Band Metagross is not threatened by any of Xatu's moves and can continue to Meteor Mash until it gets an Attack boost or a critical hit for an OHKO. Scizor and Heracross can also annoy Xatu by hitting it with powerful Bug-type STAB moves when it Roosts, but they will take huge damage from Hidden Power Fire in sun.

Komodo · Nov 23, 2011

2/2, come on Mr.lol, get this edited in ^^

November Blue · Nov 23, 2011

Hey, you're pretty good at this Jellicent!

I found a few errors that should be fixed before this is uploaded though.

All changes will be in pink so y'all can see them.

Jellicent said:
[Overview]

Although Xatu's extremely underwhelming stats may make it seem like an odd choice for an Uber team when looking at its base stats, its wonderful ability, Magic Bounce, makes it an excellent supporter and stallbreaker. With Magic Bounce, Xatu walls Ferrothorn and Forretress, completely turning the tables on them by reflecting their entry hazards and statuses. Status attacks / moves? Xatu's high base 95 Speed enables it to get the upper hand on the base 90s that swamp Ubers, which allowings it to invest in its Defense. Anyone who uses this feline bird Feline? with proper prediction can be confident that stall will not disturb his their (Gender neutrality? It's up to you guys) team. However, not everything is fun and games for Xatu. Its poor base 70 Special Defense and a weakness to the very rocks it reflects make life hard for this bird. This does not mean it is outclassed by Espeon (the only other Magic Bounce Pokemon) which has higher Special Defense than Xatu the only other Magic Bounce Pokemon, the more specially defensive Espeon, the only other Magic Bounce Pokemon; the more specially defensive Espeon (Semicolon to link two independent clauses, plus there are other lesser commas in the sentence) as the totem pole (With this rewording, we can just say Xatu instead, but the totem pole has a certain charm to it and still reduces repetition) has better physical bulk. Regardless, the support Xatu's ability provides still makes it an excellent choice for any Uber team. 

[SET]
name: Dual Screens
move 1: Reflect
move 2: Light Screen
move 3: Roost
move 4: Night Shade / Hidden Power Fire / Toxic
item: Light Clay / Leftovers
ability: Magic Bounce
nature: Bold
evs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

Xatu is able to completely prevent Ferrothorn, Forretress, Skarmory, Tentacruel, Deoxys-D, and Deoxys-S from setting up any entry hazards. It can make use of these free turns to support its team with Light Screen and Reflect, making it a great choice for offensive and stall teams alike. It's Its physical bulk, immunity to Ground-type moves, 4x resistance to Fighting, and access to reliable, instant < This comma is a problem. replace with "access to reliable recovery" recovery in the form of Roost enable it to tank several physical attacks, which is something that it's its competitor, Espeon, cannot do. For example, Ferrothorn 2HKOes Espeon with Gyro Ball or Power Whip, but is unable to do the same to Xatu. Its physical bulk enables it to wall even most defensive Groudon, reflecting the Stealth Rock this land behemoth attempts to set up and throwing up a Reflect to tank incoming Stone Edges. Magic Bounce not only reflects hazards, but status moves, replace comma with "such as" Taunt, Encore, Whirlwind, and Roar; therefore, (Comma) with accurate prediction, Xatu makes a nice switch-in to Darkrai's signature Dark Void (although beware of it's unreliable 80% accuracy), < Comma goes inside the parentheses, as they contain a complete independent clause Taunt from the Deoxys formes, and Whirlwind from Lugia. Such talents are what make it a fantastic stall killer. 

In the final moveslot, Night Shade provides the most consistent damage, while sun support lets Hidden Power Fire 2HKO the most specially defensive Ferrothorn and OHKO all Forretress once Sturdy is broken. Although Toxic may seem odd since it leaves you ineffectual against these two Steel-types, Xatu can still PP stall Ferrothorn, and Toxic allows Xatu to wear down the likes of Ho-Oh, Groudon, and Lugia. 

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

Light Clay is obviously the preferred item for a dual screen supporter, but Leftovers is viable to ensure greater longevity against Ferrothorn's Gyro Ball, Groudon's Stone Edge, or Dialga's Draco Meteor. Xatu can also run a set with Wish and U-turn set for additional team support. However, its Wishes are rather small due to Xatu's low Base HP and this will reduce its longevity. Nonetheless, if such a set is desired, a Relaxed nature and 0 Speed IVs may can be used to take a hit before its Xatu's (preferential) teammate is brought in.

Xatu works well with anything that dislikes hazards, such as Ho-Oh or Kyogre, or benefits from screens, such as Rayquaza and Cloyster. It, however, However, it particularly enjoys Giratina-O and Groudon support. The former can absorb block Forretress's Rapid Spin, and, (Comma) if you are brave, even be switched back for Xatu to nab another layer of hazards. Meanwhile, Groudon provides sun for Giratina-O or Xatu to pound Ferrothorn / and Forretress with a boosted HP Fire., and It furthermore checks several of Xatu's biggest threats, including Zekrom, Terakion, and Tyranitar. Ho-Oh also fits nicely into this combination, taking advantage of the lack of Stealth Rock and the sun from Groudon. 

With no investment in its paltry base 70 base SpD , Special Defense, and remove space Xatu is OHKOed by all of Kyogre's attacks and Draco Meteor from any specially offensive Dragon-type. However, correct prediction and Light Screen will allow the bird to wall Dialga and Scarf Palkia. Both Chansey and Ferrothorn therefore provide excellent support, by taking advantage of the lack of hazards while soaking up these troublesome special attacks. Lastly, it should be noted that Dialga, Tyranitar, Deoxys-A, and Offensive Groudon can all set up Stealth Rock, but can also OHKO Xatu. Hence, Xatu requires a fairly high level of prediction to prevent Stealth Rock entirely. 

[Other Options]

A set with Toxic / Hidden Power Fire / Roost / Night Shade can be an effective stall breaker.; this lets It allows Xatu take full advantage of its immunity to Roar, Whirlwind, and decent physical bulk to destroy common Spikers. A Calm Mind set with Psyshock, Hidden Power Fire, and Roost can also make use of Magic Bounce to set up and possibly sweep. However, it will struggle against Giratina-O and Espeon is a more effective user of this strategy due to the fact it has better SpA, SpD and Spe. Special Attack, Special Defense, and Speed. Finally, Xatu has the ability to set up Trick Room and proceed to U-turn to a more capable attacker. This not only sets up slower Pokemon for a sweep, but also prevents the entry hazards that, for instance, weaken Kyogre's Water Spout. Xatu's lack of special bulk and Trick Room's -7 priority may prevent it from surviving long enough to twist the dimensions, though. 

[Checks and Counters]

Xatu can prevent Stealth Rock from being set up, wall Ferrothorn and Forretress, and set up dual screens. That is unfortunately pretty much the extent of Xatu's abilities. Its base stats often leave it overwhelmed in Ubers, as Kyogre, Palkia, Mewtwo, Shaymin-S, < Comma and most variants of specially offensive Arceus can happily switch in on all of Xatu's attacks, bar Toxic, and OHKO or 2HKO with their powerful special attacks. Dialga and Deoxys-A can do the same, but are even more threatening since as they have access to Stealth Rock. Furthermore, the former has a Toxic immunity that leaves Xatu useless against it. Zekrom can also switch into all anything but Toxic and OHKO with Bolt Strike or Fusion Bolt, although Choice Scarf varaiants will only manage a 2HKO if Reflect is up. Tyranitar deserves a special mention since as it also sets up Stealth Rock, but can also and can hit Xatu for super effective damage with Pursuit. Pursuit from Life Orb or Choice Band Tyranitar does well over 50% to Xatu even with Reflect up and will OHKO if it Xatu switches. Offensive Groudon is also troublesome since as Xatu will often switch in to catch Stealth Rock or Earthquake only to be outsped and OHKOed by a super effective Stone Edge. Xatu also fears Choice Scarf Terrakion and Victini in the sun, as they both always 2HKO Xatu and have a decent chance of OHKOing even through Reflect. Choice Band Metagross is not threatened by any of Xatu's moves and can continue to Meteor Mash until it gets an Attack boost or a critical hit for an OHKO. Scizor and Heracross can also annoy Xatu by hitting it with powerful Bug-type STAB moves when it Roosts, but they will take huge damage from Hidden Power Fire in sun.

Done.

Komodo · Nov 23, 2011

No need for me to give a third stamp, but implement all of November Blue's changes, along with Jellicent's, then you're good to go.

November Blue · Nov 23, 2011

Sorry about the confusion. Mr. Lol, what I've done is quote Jellicent's check, and added my own changes in pink. His are still there, in red and blue.

polop · Nov 24, 2011

All right will have this finished later today, late tonight, or in a few minutes, since November Blue has highlighted both changes I think I'll just use his post and make changes from there, may I double post to signify whether its done or should I just edit this post when I'm done making changes.

Nexus · Nov 24, 2011

Make a new post, so I or one of the other C&C mods uploads and moves this.

polop · Nov 24, 2011

All checks implemented this is ready to be moved.

Bloo · Nov 24, 2011

~~Uploading.~~

Uploaded. Nice job!

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