Koffing (Placeholder)

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WIP, having a little bit of trouble but I will have this done soon.... just posting it so I don't lose it..

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[Overview]
<p>All heil smogon</p>

[SET]
name: RestTalk
move 1: Rest
move 2: Sleep Talk
move 3: Clear Smog
move 4: Will-O-Wisp
item: Eviolite
nature: Bold
evs: 196 HP / 236 Def / 76 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]
- fuck you fighting types (among other things...?)
- clear smog stops timburr and scraggy in their tracks
- will-o-wisp helps with mienfoo and croagunk (also scraggy too i guess)
- resttalk to restore health, much more reliable form of recovery in combination with will-o-wisp
- works well against other physical pokemon as well, like drilbur and to an extent scarfbird/pawniard?

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]
- there are different things you can use in the last slot instead of will-o-wisp
--- stockpile turns koffing into something almost impossible to break on the physical side when combined with clear smog
--- flamethrower/fire blast gives you a better option against steel types like pawniard and ferroseed/magnemite who switch in, though burn is nice against fighters who koffing is meant to wall in the first place

- good teammates can cover koffing's weakness to special attacks
--- munchlax works well as its fighting weakness is covered by koffing
--- ferroseed is not as bulky as munchlax, but can lay down spikes and is equally effective at dealing with special oriented water-types, also its fighting weakness is covered
--- lileep also checks a majority of special pokes
- entry hazards are helpful as koffing forces a lot of switches
--- aforementioned ferroseed and lileep
--- shit idk
- cleric can be useful because of the new sleep mechanics
--- lickitung and chinchou both get heal bell and synergize well with koffing

[SET]
name: Pain Split
move 1: Pain Split
move 2: Clear Smog
move 3: Will-O-Wisp
move 4: Fire Blast????
item: Eviolite
nature: Bold
evs: 196 HP / 76 Def / 236 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]


[Other Options]

[Checks and Counters]

Well my only issue with the first set is that you open the door for Sub <anything> to just set up or simply attack you. Maybe slash something that does some sort of damage? Maybe slash flamethrower next to wow, but otherwise it looks good.

Heysup said:

Well my only issue with the first set is that you open the door for Sub <anything> to just set up or simply attack you. Maybe slash something that does some sort of damage? Maybe slash flamethrower next to wow, but otherwise it looks good.

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Clear Smog stops setup sweepers, maybe slash Haze beside it if it doesnt work through subs

other options:

Shadow Ball for Gastly / slowbro

Tbolt for stuff thats weak to tbolt

Theif?

Destiny Bond for trollsies

Taunt, but Koffing is pretty damn slow.

Mienfoo is annoying, because of Knock Off :< But I guess thief would be cool for that lol

Edit: wtf is up with those EVs? Also call the second set "Smogon" :p
Edit 2: 196 HP / 76 Def / 236 SDef is the closest thing you can get to that,

I hadn't decided what the best stats to hit were, so I just maxed out all the relevant numbers so I wouldn't have to bother figuring them out again haha. Anyways I decided to max Defense on the first set, since realistically you should be used Koffing to counter the Fighting-types in the metagame, and it really needs every point it can get against Scraggy. And 14 SpDef is not very helpful on a RestTalk set regardless.

Second set is still up in the air but it makes a relatively shitty Scraggy counter anyways so may as well max SpDef

theres also things like toxic and torment could go in OO.Also, could a choice srcaf set go in OO too? thunder bolt / fireblast / sludge bomb / memento 36hp / 196spa / 236spe gives him 21hp / 11atk / 16def / 15spa / 11spd / 14spe wich outspeeds most unboosted pokemon in LC

pie cream said:

theres also things like toxic, torment, spite could go in OO.Also, could a choice srcaf set go in OO too? thunder bolt / fireblast / sludge bomb / memento 36hp / 196spa / 236spe gives him 21hp / 11atk / 16def / 15spa / 11spd / 14spe wich outspeeds most unboosted pokemon in LC

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Scarf Koffing! what a boss. I remember using it in the days before missy and tite were banned.... no one believed me about how amazing it was :(

on a serious note, spite shouldnt go in oo, because you'd have to use it ~10 times to get rid of a move, and in that amount of time you could actually do something productive

OK not gonna finish this someone else take it :(

I'll take this over. :]

Moving~