X3 Formation, The Dragons Start Their Assult!

So when I first got into Gen V battling, I made a promise to my self to never use A: Auto-Weather, B: Teams from the RMT section, or C: Defensive Steels (Although this was a rule I had to break) . The reason being that I play this wonderful game for fun, and half of that fun comes from making up your own, original teams. If you havent noticed, half of all GenV teams are pretty similar right now, so I wanted to try and combat that with a team of mostly underrated or underused pokemon. So I decided to make a team playing around the underrated dragons of OU (Yes, they exist). Some would say running three pokemon of one type would give me common weaknesses or walls, but the only shared weakness is dragon which I can revenge with Deoxys, and they all run a move to deal with their common walls (except for haxorus). A second theme I was going for here is to Be able to screw with all those weather teams running around. It's been going pretty well, peaking at around 1200, which is pretty good for me. It's obviously not a perfect team, but here it is.

Bronzong@ Leftovers
Sassy 252HP, 84 ATK, 80 DEF, 9SPD
Gyro Ball
Hidden Power Ice
Earthquake
Toxic

Used to a a Technitop, untill I realized this Bell-thing can do everything I needed Thechnitop to do and more. Absolutly brilliant for my team, considering the best counter to dragons is other dragons. Bronzong can take most any hit and dish back good damage. The most important thing he does is save me from Lati@s and bulky waters with Gyro-Ball and Toxic. I run Toxic over SR by the way, because Heatran has nothing better to do with its 4th slot, and the Toxic is terrific for whittling away at other pokemon like Jellicent. I almost always keep this guy hidden away though, he is absolutly crucial to me not getting 6-0d by fast dragons.


Haxorus@ Choice Scarf
Rivalry
Adamant, 4HP, 252 ATK, 252 SPE
Outrage
Brick Break
Earth Quake
Duel Chop

I used to run a Band on this guy, untill I realized that using a Scarf with Rivalry gives me the same power as CB Mold Breaker half the time, but with far better speed. This guy is my anti-dragon-dragon, able to OHKO Dragonite through Multiscale. He also helps to patch up the slight slowness of my team, and provides a reliable Thunderus check. Interestingly Haxorus also works as a semi-support pokemon, able to break through enemy Screens with BB, opening them up to an easy attack. Earthquake only ever sees use now for Jirachi, Heatran, and Zone. While I miss the power of CB Outrage, this guy becomes more far more usefull to my team when its revenging threats than when it was OHKOing Gliscor (Hey, guys who have trouble with Gliscor, heres a hint: any half decent special attack, or strong neutral physical attack like +2 Terrekions Stone Edge,KO's easily. k thnks by)


Deoxys-S@ Life Orb
Naive, 12ATk, 252 SPE, 240 SPA
Thunderbolt
Ice-Beam
Psycho Boost
Superpower

I have no idea why this set doesnt get more usage, its the best Late game cleaner/ revenge killer imaginable. No one ever sees it comeing, netting me some great KOs. Even with its below-300 attack stats, the power and coverage his moves provide, along with his raw speed, make him an increadible sweeper. Psycho Boost is Powerful enough to OHKO Rotom-W, and Superpower can kill all Tyranitars but those annoying Chople Berry ones. It also works great to revenge those fast pokemom that could sweep me otherwise, like Starmie or Thunderus. Really, Life-orb Deoxys> Lead Deoxys. Something else about this guy, he's really good agains rain teams, able to OHKO most of their big sweepers like Toxicroak, Thunderus, and Rotom-W after Hazzards.


Salamence@ Life Orb
Naive, 116 ATK, 216SPA, 176 SPE
Outrage
Draco-Meteor
Earthquake
Fire-Blast
"No," you say, "Shut up, Salamence is not underrated." Well August's usage stats disagree. I mean this set, which kicked Mence up to Uber last gen, is less used than Magnezone (STEELS ARNT THAT HARD TO BEAT PEOPLE, USE FIRE BLAST). Mence is, no joke, the best wallbreaker in OU, able to beat any steel type you throw at it. Draco meteor is, as always, a very, very destructive move, and nothing likes to switch in. Same story with outrage. But even with all that praise I just heaped upon it, I am admitadly a bit dissapointed with Salamence. The speed that you're left with when you use my EV spread, is a bit slow, hitting only about 308. While thats by no means slow, I do not like being outsped by Haxorous or Dragonite. This is the pokemon I need help with, and if you guys have any ideas on replacements I would be very grateful.

Kingdra@ Life Orb
Swift Swim
Mild, 94 ATK, 252 SPA, 164 SPE
Rain Dance
Draco Meteor
Waterfall
Hidden Power Fire

The final "Underrated Dragon," and also my favorite pokemon in the game. In fact this is the guy I built my team around.The first thing that jumps out at people about this set is the fact that Im using a fire type move on a pokemon with Rain Dance. While this seems like a dumb move on paper, I don't have to immediatly use Rain Dance. Most people switch in Ferrothorn or Scizor or something right once they see Kingdra, and then I OHKO them on the switch, taking out my biggest counter. From there I'm free to Rain Dance, which will compleatly screw over other types of weather teams. And if my opponent has Drizzletoed on his team, I keep this guy out of play untill late game, where his Double STAB Waterfalls clean up absolutly everything. Like Haxorous, Kingdras other three moves are so good that I find myself only using Draco Meteor to take out a few bulky waters or Dragons like Politoed or Hydreigon.


Heatran@ Air Balloon
Modest 4HP, 252 SPA, 252 SPE
Fire Blast
Earth Power
Hidden Power Ice
Stealth Rock

I used to run Double Dance Terrekion in place of this guy, untill my teams enormous Scizor weakness and lack of Entry Hazzards forced me to run this Mo-Fo instead. My Third pokemon that screws with weather, as most Sun teams hate having to deal with Heatran. The Balloon gives me yet another Excadrill check (And who says HO has trouble with the old Mole?) He also helps to patch up that horrifying Scizor weakness I used to have. Heatran works essentially as the glue of my team, setting up those Rocks that I needed after failing to KO a pokemon by 5% one too many times. It was replacing Terrekion with this guy by the way, that shot me up from mid 1000s to my 1200 peak.

Biggest Threats (From hardest to easiest)

LATIAS: FIXED! Stopped cold by Bronzong, and can be revenged by Haxorus.

Jirachi: KINDA-FIXED! Can be revenged by Haxor at lower health, and is walled by Bronzong.

Jellicent: FIXED! Bronzong Toxic stalls it, or Deoxys can switchi in (Doesnt mind the burn) and KO with T-Bolt most of the time.

Latios: FIXED! See Latias

NEW THREATS: Volcarona: Hard to take down. Heatran can switch in, but if it carries HP ground im SOL. Rock neuter it enough that Haxor or Deoxys can finish it though.

will add more as I find them

And I would like to add a thanks to those who suggested Scarf Haxor and Bronzong, both really helped me with my team, hovering at a constant 1250ish now, thanks!

You realise, of course, that a single Latios could decimate your team? You are far too Dragon weak. I recommend swapping out Salamence for a Ferrothorn, giving him Spikes.

Even then, your team is overly offensive. Kingdra is largely an unnecessary Poke, and completely fucks with your Heatran. Swap Kingdra with Gastrodon, giving you a nice defensive core with Ferrothorn. You could consider Jellicent, but then you'd be Thundurus-weak.

Hey, good looking team!
I just wanted to address the pokemon you say you need the most help with, Salamence.
MixMence is indeed an amazing wallbreaker, and one of my favorite pokemon in the current metagame. However, he should only be used to fulfill that niche, and by your comments it seems like that isn't what he does. Speed isn't hugely necessary on a wallbreaker like MixMence, and I even prefer a Rash natured one with the same EV spread you have. The idea is to bring him in on slower physical mons he resists or generally slow walls, and give your opponent a hard time coming up with a check.

If your worry is being outsped by Dragonite or Haxorus with your current set (of which only scarf and DD variants can accomplish) running a faster threat such as lati@s, ice priority users such as Mamoswine, or physically defensive steel types such as bronzong/forretress/max HP wish jirachi may be better options. Skarmory can easily handle outrages from scarfed haxorus and roost off the damage while also phazing DDnites trying to set up on you (beware fire punch).

Hopefully this helps, and good luck!

Hax

I'd run a Choice Scarf Haxorus to help revenge those Dragon threats.

Haxorus isn't going to be killing anything that your other pokemon can't handle.

Key to this team is to keep momentum.

Choice Scarf Hydreigon can maul most of your team with DM, Dark Pulse and Focus Miss/Surf

I second running a scarf dragon over one of the ones you have now. Honestly I would change out Mence or Kingdra, depending on which you like better, for a Scarf Latios:

Latios @ Choice scarf
Timid 252 SpA/ 252 SpE/ 4 SpD
Draco Meteor
Surf
Psyshock/ Psychic
Trick/ Thunderbolt/ Hp Fire

This team also needs Mamo and Zone, but that would make it unoriginal

You have three Dragons but only one Steel, meaning you're completely screwed over by virtually any opposing Latios, Latias, Haxorus, Salamence, etc etc. You could really make good use of a secondary Steel-type on your team so that you're not completely helpless against Dragon-types. Since you already have Kingdra to lure Ferrothorn and Scizor, you don't really need Magnezone as badly as other Dragon spam teams. Bronzong could prove really useful as another means to handle opposing Dragon-types, and although you need to be weary of the odd Hidden Power Fire or Fire Blast, you really really need something in addition to Heatran that can eat Draco Meteors. Bronzong would fit over Hitmontop pretty well; you don't really need spin support and you could benefit more from a stable defensive pivot like Bronzong. Bronzong also counters Excadrill extremely well, who otherwise walks all over your team because nothing can take an Earthquake other than Salamence, who is promptly raped by Rock Slide. Since you already have SR on Heatran, you could use Earthquake / Hidden Power Ice / Gyro Ball / Toxic so that you can poison Jellicent on the switch, while also hitting everything from Gliscor to Gengar fairly hard. I guess Brozong could fit the definition of a 'defensive Steel', but it's still pretty offensively oriented, but it can just take a hit better than most things. If Bronzong is too defensive for your liking, something like Scizor could work, but again you'll be fucked over by Excadrill.

Still really Thundurus weak. A pretty simple solution would be to replace Salamence with CB Dragonite and then use Scarf Haxorus over your current variant. Choice Band Dragonite is arguably just as good of a wallbreaker as Salamence (though it's more prediction oriented), and CB ExtremeSpeeds can be incredibly useful if you get yourself into a jam. Scarf Haxorus gives you a means of beating Thundurus because you can switch into unboosted Thunderbolts and OHKO it back. Obviously it's not the best solution to handling Thundurus, but it's still a decent check and it maintains your goal of overwhelming opponents with Dragons.

Oh and I don't really see why you need Waterfall on Kingdra when you have lots of ways of dealing with Blissey and most special walls in general. I'd just use Surf, a Modest nature, and then shift the Attack EVs into HP to help absorb Water-type attacks. LO Starmie or CB Azumarill in the rain can be big threats, so you probably don't want a -Def nature when you square off against them.

The Bronzong Idea would work really well I think, especially since it a lesser used steel and still fits with my teams theme, and although the lack of recovery makes me wawry, he seems like a great check to my biggest threats. How does he fare againts Latias by the way? Thanks!
Also I run Waterfall on Kingdra so that I still have an attacking option after I throw out a Draco Meteor, and I still have an option for taking out Starmie afterwards with T-bolt from Deoxys-S. Plus adding Bronzong to it will help with both of those.

I'm a bit wary about shifting to Scarf-haxor tough, since the main reason I use him is because of his overwealming power and getting rid of the band removes some of his best KO's. If I need something to revenge Thunderus I'll just use Deoxys-S (Can OHKO after rocks with Ice Beam). Band-nite sounds like a good Idea, but I don't know about having two banded pokemon. Latios sounds =interesting though, altough the above scarf set seems a bit excessive in the speed department. Think a Life-Orb Latios would work well over mence? Escpecially since it is a half-decent Thunderus check i think.

Hi man nice team but i quickly noticed a huge Volcarona weakness.

ChestoRest and max def/max hp,morning sun sets can easily find opportunites to setup and once they are at +1/+1/+1 your only chance is to have kingdra at near full life and try to ko with watterfall,or revenging killing with Hitmontop.
Either of these solutions is not good 'cause depending on the set,the opponent can easily sweep you.

The best idea i can think of right now is removing one of your three dragons,salamence would be the most replacable member i think,and put a terakion in.
You can put either a scarf terakion to completely counter even offensive volcaronas with hp ground,or just use the double dance set to do some late game sweeping.

One of the best things about Thundo is that it outspeeds Latios by 1 point. That being said, you're going to be running HP Fire on it generally, so that's another point you lose in the speed game. Lati is by no means a Thundo check. However, CB Draggy does ~70% to Thundrus and takes ~54% from unboosted T-Bolt with Multiscale in tact. If you can keep rocks off, CB Dragonite is the best Thundo counter you have. I recommend putting it in over Salamence as your wall breaker and switching Haxo scarf for added protection. GLB.

Alright, I'm definatly going to switch to a scarf on Haxorous, patches p my Lat@s weakness quite nicely, and can still OHKO Dragonite through Multiscale appearently. But then about Dragonite, it seems like a bad idea to run a CB pokemon thats weak to rocks without a spinner, if you guys think that wont be to much of a problem though I can try it out. Him plus Bronz would pretty much eliminate my dragon weakness.

Edit: Jesus christ I love Bronzong, been MVP of my last three games, taking out a latias, Wobbufet, and a dragonite. My god, gonna edit the OP later