Gen V Initial RU

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We will figure out what to do with the current suspects once we figure out what's happening to suspect tests. So stay tuned!

RU C&C analyses will come once we get rid of some of the big offenders in RU atm. So stay tuned for that as well!

Wow finally! Lets get this done, we know whats broken already so this should be a straightforward test.

Cresselia and Yanmega seem the be the biggest offenders on deck!

Zweilous and Aggron... Nuff said. Zweilous actually has viability. I remember first trying it out. I thought, 'Hey. What kind of pre evo would make a good hard hitting fighter for my team?' Answer: CB hustle boosted STAB outrage zweilous.

FINALLY,

I can just see the "SO WHEN ARE THE RU ANALYSES COMING?" Posts now... but thanks a bunch Oglemi!

Yess..... finally a place to discuss my favorite tier. thanks!

Omastar and Porygon-Z are pretty ridiculous in RU, Shell Smash means Omastar can run through teams not carrying Ferroseed, and Adaptability Tri-Attack is just... brutal.

Porygon-z has pokemon that actually resist its attacks though. Yanmega is more broken. IMO

Yanmega isn't really broken imo. It's completely walled by probably 3-4 pokes and is checked by cool stuff like Sneasel and Entei which doesn't really help it seeing as SR completely manhandles it. Cresselia though...needs to gtfo.

Yeah, Porygon-z Is even less broken than yanmega. I dont think P-Z will be banned from RU

Foxy Grandpa said:

Yanmega isn't really broken imo. It's completely walled by probably 3-4 pokes and is checked by cool stuff like Sneasel and Entei which doesn't really help it seeing as SR completely manhandles it. Cresselia though...needs to gtfo.

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Excadrill is walled by even more pokemon but it still is close to getting banned. It's checked well but it has Speed Boost and the best part is that if you have the best team support then your fine.

Paradoxus said:

Excadrill is walled by even more pokemon but it still is close to getting banned. It's checked well but it has Speed Boost and the best part is that if you have the best team support then your fine.

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But the difference between them is that Excadrill has a 4x resist to SR whereas Yanmega can't even switch into them, Excadrill isn't phazed by priority due to natural bulk, and has a boosting move in SD.

I don't deny that Yanmega is a very real threat and one that should be prepared for on every team, its just that with the proper team support, you don't even have to worry about it.

One final note is that without the premier spinner in RU, Blastoise, Yanmega is going to have a lot harder of a time getting on the field.

Woot! Love RU Subforum is here! Now we're in for the suspect process, right?

Yeah definitely, Blastoise was a great partner for Yanmega but then people realized how amazing it is in UU.I do think Yanmega is on the verge of broken, and I'm still on the fence about it. I mean it is literally the biggest special attacker in the tier but I think it'll probably just be a RU Moltres.

On that note Cresselia is really really broken, since it can run offensive or just wipe stall clean with SubCM and things of that nature.

edit: Totally forgot about Rhyperior, I think he might be leaving RU soon because of usage but honestly idk.

:OOOOO finally i was waiting for this... (before i leave obivously) ooh Porygon-Z is not broken Yanmega cant be THAT broken it IS pretty frail.. Cresselia just shut up Cresslia and gtfo that thing is waaay too overpowered

Finally! RU has avoided 4th Gen NU Syndrome.

Anyway, Cress needs to go. DAT BAWLK allows it so to set up on so many things. It's definitely more dangerous, because unlike higher tiers, Cress doesn't need to get to +6 to sweep.

I'm kind of on the fence about Honchkrow. It's countered by viable things but with Rhyperior likely to leave RU it might need to go.

HOW DID I NOT SEE THIS SUB FORUM?!
In all seriousness, this is awesome.
No more being limited to a single thread!
Besides that, after some thought, Cress, while handled, is best off in UU, where it won't wall everything not having a strong Dark/Bug STAB. Same for Yanmega, only in this case the thing is, if it switches in early game, it's just plain rape with unresisted STAB. And while phazing may still be there to handle it with SR up, to go such lengths just to get rid of it shows how much of a (centralizing) threat it is.
Also, how much of a rating is needed for voting requirements?

Uhh, Yanmega is broken as hell. That a piece of crap pokemon like Munchlax is used as much as it is should tip you off to that. And Foxy Grandpa, I'd be interested in hearing who all these Pokemon that wall Yanmega are.

We finally have a subforum? Sweet! while it may still be a while before things really get going, it's great to finally have a place to spread out the discussions. Can't wait for testing to get underway. Certain things (Cressy, Mega, etc) really need to go. Though with possible tier shifts from usage stats coming, I am willing to wait and see how it goes. But seriously, I can't wait to get started.

Newmannium said:

Uhh, Yanmega is broken as hell. That a piece of crap pokemon like Munchlax is used as much as it is should tip you off to that. And Foxy Grandpa, I'd be interested in hearing who all these Pokemon that wall Yanmega are.

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Munchlax, Clefable, Audino, and Ferroseed to name a few

Thanks Oglemi! Very excited to have RU's own sub forum.

Newmannium said:

And Foxy Grandpa, I'd be interested in hearing who all these Pokemon that wall Yanmega are.

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Me too!

The biggest part of RU can be said in two words: boosting and status. Without boosts, no pokemon in RU can do anything.

Let's be honest, Ferroseed doesn't exactly wall Bug Buzzes... especially without recovery. But Audino is actually surprisingly sturdy with Regenerator.

Amarillo said:

Let's be honest, Ferroseed doesn't exactly wall Bug Buzzes... especially without recovery. But Audino is actually surprisingly sturdy with Regenerator.

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Ferroseed can't switch in but with Leech Seed and Protect it just sits there loling at Yanmega

Foxy Grandpa said:

Ferroseed can't switch in but with Leech Seed and Protect it just sits there loling at Yanmega

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The question isn't if it can do anything. The question is if it can handle it.
And relying to kill Yanmega like that is kind of asking for a crit. And besides, you'll lose quite a bit more HP than that you gain with Leech Seed.
Also, Thunder Wave is a much better way to annoy Yanmega, as you cripple it for the rest of the match if it doesn't have a cleric in it's team.