Mandibuzz

[Overview]

<p>Despite being an RU Pokemon, Mandibuzz has a potent niche in UU. It has a good defensive typing, which allows it to resist many common attacking types, and when combined with great defenses and a good movepool, it means Mandibuzz is a viable mixed wall. Its movepool includes good options like Roost and Toxic, and Overcoat makes it immune to weather damage. However, these benefits come with a drawback, which is Mandibuzz's crippling weakness to Stealth Rock. Rapid Spin support is mandatory for Mandibuzz, and it should be paired up with Pokemon to help sponge Rock-, Ice-, and Electric-type attacks. Overall, Mandibuzz is an effective wall in the UU tier, and its ability to take on threats such as Azelf and Mismagius is much appreciated by any team.</p>

[SET]
name: Specially Defensive
move 1: Roost
move 2: Toxic
move 3: Whirlwind / Brave Bird
move 4: Taunt / U-turn
item: Leftovers
ability: Overcoat
nature: Careful
evs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Due to its typing, Mandibuzz is better suited to being a special wall than a physical wall. It can switch in on a variety of special sweepers such as Mismagius and wall them thanks to recovery in Roost. This, together with Toxic, allows Mandibuzz to outstall many opposing Pokemon. It can even use Taunt to force those Pokemon to switch. Whirlwind is used to phaze set-up sweepers away. Brave Bird is an option though if you don't want Mandibuzz to be Taunt bait. U-turn is an option as well, to bring in a safe switch-in, but you will need Rapid Spin support.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Knock Off is an option, since it cripples most walls and Eviolite users. You can use Torment as well, so opponents can't 2HKO with their strongest attacks. A Dark-type STAB attack can be used, but it provides less coverage than Brave Bird. The HP evs give an odd HP stat, which ensures that you switch four times with Stealth Rock up. Special Defense is maxed out and the remaning evs are put into Defense. You can use Mandibuzz as a mixed wall with the following spread: 248 HP / 216 Def / 44 SpD, which enables Mandibuzz to function as an emergency check to any out-of-hand threats. The Specially Defensive set outclasses this set though, because of Mandibuzz typing.</p>

<p>Rapid Spin support is welcome from Pokemon such as Hitmontop, otherwise Mandibuzz will lose a quarter of its health every time it switches in. Heal Bell support is recommended, as Mandibuzz doesn't appreciate status. While Registeel can be kept in check with Taunt, most Steel-types such as Cobalion and Escavalier are problematic as they Mandibuzz's STAB attacks and are immune to Toxic. Bulky Water-types such as Slowbro and Suicune are capable of handling most Steel- and Rock-type Pokemon. Fighting-type Pokemon can also take on the aforementioned Steel-types thanks to their STAB attacks. With Taunt and Roost, Mandibuzz is capable of stalling out certain dedicated walls such as Slowbro and Chansey. Pokemon that struggle against these Pokemon, partner well with Mandibuzz for this reason. Faster users of Taunt are also troublesome for Mandibuzz.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>Mandibuzz can go with a Nasty Plot set, but this is outclassed by so many other Pokemon with higher Special Attack and Speed. You can also try out a Mean Look + Toxic set, but this is way too situational to be effective.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>Steel-types in general completely wall Mandibuzz as they are immune to Toxic and have a high base Defense to take Brave Bird. A good example is Cobalion; it can set up a Swords Dance or a Calm Mind and sweep, as only Whirlwind threatens it, but Cobalion can just come back in. Magic Guard or Magic Bounce users also wall Mandibuzz since Toxic is bounced back at Mandibuzz. Xatu can completely set up on Mandibuzz, either with dual screens or Calm Mind. Strong super effective STAB moves also easily kill Mandibuzz: Rhyperior can rip apart Mandibuzz with STAB Stone Edge and the Rotom formes carry a strong STAB Thunderbolt to take it down. Mandibuzz doesn't appreciate Toxic eihter; it severely reduces its walling capabilities. Faster Taunt users also shut Mandibuzz down. Finally, having Stealth Rock on the field will cripple Mandibuzz, as most Pokemon can take it down when it has taken some prior damage.</p>

[Dream World]

<p>Mandibuzz gets Weak Armor as its Dream World ability. A Defense drop is never good for a wall and the extra Speed isn't worth it, so this ability has little utility.</p>

Why not just mention the mixed wall evs in the first set AC instead of a other set with the same moves?

pie cream said:

Why not just mention the mixed wall evs in the first set AC instead of a other set with the same moves?

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yh i tink you are right about that. I will edit the spread into the first set.

Instead of an EV spread with 248 HP, why not use an EV spread with 224 HP EVs?
It gives you the same Leftovers recovery while also giving you a "magic Leftovers number" (someone correct me if I'm wrong...)

EDIT: Also, maybe mention a physically defensive spread in the AC of the specially defensive set? (224 HP / 252 Def / 32 SpD Impish)

QC 2/3

no mention at all of hippopotas?

Hmm, I'm wondering whether a re-arranging of the slashes would be in order. I bring this up because taunt/toxic/roost is a completely brilliant combination that few Pokemon have, and I would hate for someone to have to choose between that and phazing. I would recommend that Whirlwind be moved up and slashed before Brave Bird; Mandibuzz doesn't even have Skarmory's mediocre attack, so Brave Bird won't be doing much to anything beyond fighting types (which it can't wall very well) and grass types (where it is pretty useful, hence the slash). I haven't tested it though, so please take this as a theorymon suggestion until you do.

My favorite Mandibuzz set consists of Roost, Toxic, Taunt, and Torment (yeah, total Taunt-bait, but it works very well if played properly.) The first three moves are obvious, and Torment plays very well in tandem. Your opponent cannot hit with his or her strongest move consecutively, allowing Mandibuzz more time to heal with Roost or to switch to a better counter.

I realize this probably doesn't warrant a mention in the actual set, but I think Torment should at least be mentioned somewhere in OO.

Ya I agree with FlareBlitz, Taunt should be a stand alone option while Brave Bird be slashed with Whirlwind. Also, I'm not quite sure why U-turn is slashed. With Mandibuzz's pitiful attack, Brave Bird won't be doing much. I'd much rather have Taunt and Whirlwind to prevent status and phaze. THough I suppose Brave Bird can come in handy against Heracross??

Jubilee said:

Instead of an EV spread with 248 HP, why not use an EV spread with 224 HP EVs?
It gives you the same Leftovers recovery while also giving you a "magic Leftovers number" (someone correct me if I'm wrong...)

EDIT: Also, maybe mention a physically defensive spread in the AC of the specially defensive set? (224 HP / 252 Def / 32 SpD Impish)

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You can even get away with 232 HP EVs for the same effect. That gives you 419 HP (16x+3), which conveniently maximizes leftovers recovery while keeping the HP consumed by Stealth Rock to a minimum. It even gets you an extra HP point every time you Roost, compared to running 417 HP.

Edit: Thinking about Mandibuzz's situation, it's probably best to just go with 248 HP EVs. You are likely going to be Roosting off that additional 1 Point of SR damage anyway. (Roost's benefit is best the closer you are to max HP)

Thanks for all the answers. Gonna slash Whirlwind with Brave Bird and add Torment to the avaialble moves in the AC section.

EDIT: will write the full article this weekend

Maybe you should make just a small mention of what special moves she has of use available with NP. Dark Pulse, Air Slash and Hidden Power.

SuperJOCKE said:

Maybe you should make just a small mention of what special moves she has of use available with NP. Dark Pulse, Air Slash and Hidden Power.

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Why? It's not like she'll ever run a set using them.

Base 55 Special Attack isn't going to hurt anything, there are MUCH better NP users in the tier, and she has way better things to be doing with her time.

It's an IF. A big f-ing IF. I'm not saying that you should use it, but if NP is going to be mentioned it should mention what she has to use with it. An example for the write up:

"Mandibuzz also has access to Nasty Plot but is outclassed by other users of the move and should stick to a defensive role. However, if you choose to use Nasty Plot, she has access to three usable moves in Dark Pulse, Air Slash, and Hidden Power."

or something like that.

This is a suggestion, not a must.

I think an offensively oriented walling set could be viable. Roost / Taunt / Nasty Plot / Air Slash.

Similar to SD Taunt Gliscor.

JT Swift said:

I think an offensively oriented walling set could be viable. Roost / Taunt / Nasty Plot / Air Slash.

Similar to SD Taunt Gliscor.

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Yeah, except for the fact that Gliscor has base 95 Attack, versus Mandibuzz's base 55 Special Attack.

Personally, I don't think Nasty Plot should be mentioned anywhere in the analysis. It's a waste of time on Mandibuzz. If you want a Dark/Flying type for that, go with Honchkrow. Or just stick with any of the other Nasty Plot users in the tier who have a usable Special Attack stat.

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Thanks for the check elDino. Edited it into the OP.

Make sure it's [Other Options] and [Checks and Counters] rather than [Other options] and [Checks and counters]. Same goes for [Dream World]

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[Overview]

<p>Despite being an a RU Pokemon, Mandibuzz has a potent niche in UU. This is thanks to its excellent typing, defences, and movepool. Mandibuzz It has a good defensive typing, (comma) which allows it to resist many common attacking types, (replace period with comma) When and when combined with the aforemented great defenses and good movepool, it means Mandibuzz makes for is a viable mixed wall. Its movepool includes good moves like options, such as Roost or Toxic; It and Toxic, and Overcoat is even makes it immune to weather damage. All However, these benefits come with a drwaback though; drawback, which is Mandibuzz's crippling weakness to SR Stealth Rock. Rapid Spin support is obligatory for Mandibuzz, and it should be paired up with Pokemon to help sponge Rock-, Ice-, and Electric-type attacks. Overall, however, Mandibuzz is an effective wall in the UU tier, and its ability to take on threats such as Azelf and Mismagius is much appreciated by any team.</p>

[SET]
name: Specially Defensive
move 1: Roost
move 2: Toxic
move 3: Whirlwind / Brave Bird
move 4: Taunt / U-Turn U-turn
Item: item: Leftovers
Ability: ability: Overcoat
Nature: nature: Careful
Evs: evs: 248 HP / 8 Def / 252 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Due to its typing, Mandibuzz is better suited to being a special wall than a physical wall. It can switch in on a variety of special sweepers like such as Mismagius and wall them thanks to recovery in Roost. This, together with Toxic, allows Mandibuzz to outstall many opposing pokemon Pokemon. It can even use Taunt to render opposing defensive force those Pokemon to switch useless temporarily. Whirwind Whirlwind is used to phaze and switch set-up sweepers away. Brave Bird is an option though if you don't want Mandibuzz to be used as Taunt bait. You can use Taunt youself to render walls such as Registeel or Slowbro useless and stall them to death with Toxic. (you already mentionded Taunt and you won't Toxic stall Registeel because you can't Toxic Steel-types) U-turn is an option as well, to bring in a safe switch-in, but you will need Rapid Spin support.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Knock Off is an option, since it cripples most walls and Eviolite users. You can use Torment as well, so opponents can't 2HKO with their strongest attacks. A Dark-type STAB attack can be used, but it provides less coverage than Brave Bird. The HP EV's evs give an odd HP stat, which ensures that you live switching into switch four times with Stealth Rock up to 4 times. Special Defense is maxed out and the reaming EV's remaining evs are put into Defense. You can use Mandibuzz as a mixed wall with the following spread: 248 HP / 216 Def / 44 SpD. This , which enables Mandibuzz to function as an emergency check to any the out-of-hand threats. The Specially Defensive set outclasses this set though, because of Mandibuzz typing.</p>

<p>Rapid Spin support is welcome from Pokemon such as Hitmontop, otherwise Mandibuzz will lose a quarter of its health every time she it switches in. Heal Bell support is recommended, as Mandibuzz doesn't appreciate status ailmenst. While Registeel can be kept in check with Taunt, most Steel-types such as Cobalion and Escavalier are problematic as they Steel-type Pokemon resist both of Mandibuzz's STAB attacks and are immune to Toxic. Registeel is vulnerable to Taunt, but other Steel types can be problematic, like Cobalion. Bulky Water-types such as Slowbro and Suicune are capable of handling most Steel- and Rock-type Pokemon. As such, offensive Fighting type Fighting-type Pokemon can also take on the aforementioned Steel-types thanks to their STAB attacks beat them as well. With Taunt and Roost, Mandibuzz is capable of stalling out certain dedicated walls such as Slowbro and Chansey. Pokemon such as Nidoking, that struggle against these Pokemon, walls, such as Nidoking partner well with Mandibuzz for this reason. Faster users of Taunt are also troublesome for Mandibuzz.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>Mandibuzz can go with a Nasty Plot set, but this is outclassed by so many other Pokemon with higher Special Attack and Speed. You can also try out a Mean Look + Toxic set, but this is way too situational to be effective.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>Steel types Steel-types in general completely wall Mandibuzz as they are immune to Toxic and resist Brave Bird (Cobalion doesn't resist BB) have a high base Defense to take Brave Bird. A good example is Cobalion; it can just set up a Swords Dance or a Calm Mind and sweep, as only Whirlwind threatens, but Cobalion can just come back in. Magic Guard or Magic Mirror Bounce users also wall Mandibuzz as Toxic is bounced back at Mandibuzz. Xatu can completely set up on Mandibuzz, whether with Dual Screens or Calm Mind. Strong STAB moves also kill Mandibuzz. Rhyperior can rip apart Mandibuzz with STAB Stone Edge and the Rotom Formes carry a strong STAB Thunderbolt to take Mandibuzz it down. Mandibuzz doesn't appreciate Toxic as eihter either; it severly severely reduces its walling capabilities. Faster Taunt users also shut Mandibuzz down. Finally, having Stealth Rock on the field will cripple Mandibuzz, as most Pokemon can take it down when it has taken some prior damage.</p>

[Dream World]

<p>Mandibuzz gets Weak Armor as its Dream World ability. A Defense drop is never good for a wall and the extra Speed isn't worth it, so this ability has little utility.</p>

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thanks for the check. this analysis is done :)