Hydreigon (GP 2/2)

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[Overview]

<p>Hydreigon certainly looks like something that would tear you limb from limb, and one glance at that massive 125 Special Attack should leave no doubt in your mind that it is capable of doing so. Although its Draco Meteor is slightly weaker than Latios's and its Speed is lacking, Hydreigon boasts STAB Dark Pulse to eliminate dangerous support Pokemon such as Cresselia and the powerful Fire Blast, while Latios has to rely on non-STAB Shadow Ball and the significantly weaker Hidden Power Fire.</p>

<p>Even in light of its perks, however, Hydreigon is in constant danger of being dispatched by faster Pokemon that can take advantage of its Fighting- and Dragon-type weaknesses due to its awkward base 98 Speed, and it also runs the risk of being outclassed by older Dragon-types such as Garchomp and Latios. When using Hydreigon, it is important to use it for what its competitors cannot do.</p>

[SET]
name: Special Attacker
move 1: Draco Meteor / Dragon Pulse
move 2: Dark Pulse
move 3: Fire Blast / Flamethrower
move 4: Protect
item: Life Orb
nature: Timid / Modest
ability: Levitate
evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Oftentimes, Hydreigon's main role in a team is to hit hard off its Special Attack, and this set is its best bet for doing so. Dark Pulse is the move you're probably going to fire off most often, 2HKOing even max Special Defense Eviolite Dusclops 85% of the time when using a Timid nature, and 100% of the time when Modest. Draco Meteor is the main option due to its sheer power; while Dragon Pulse is an alternative if you don't like the Special Attack drop, the drop in power is very noticeable. Fire Blast is Hydreigon's best coverage move, allowing Hydreigon to perform admirably in sun. Under the sun, Fire Blast destroys even max Special Defense Bronzong and deals a minimum of 87% to 252 HP Occa Berry Metagross. Speaking of Fire Blast, if you don't like the 85% accuracy, you can always use Flamethrower. While it misses out on a little more power, Life Orb Flamethrower can still 2HKO Occa Metagross and max Special Defense Amoonguss. Protect is fairly self-explanatory as it keeps Hydreigon safe from Mach Punches, Draco Meteors, and Ice Shards.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>The EVs are fairly straightforward, but if you're not concerned about opposing max Speed Hydreigon, you can use a spread of 12 HP / 252 SpA / 244 Spe which, along with a Timid nature, allows you to outpace Jolly Haxorus. Modest Hydreigon must run max Speed in order to outpace neutral-natured Haxorus, but if you're also not concerned with Haxorus, you can use a spread of 56 HP / 252 SpA / 200 Spe for both Timid and Modest in order to outpace base 90 Pokemon such as Lucario. Defensive items such as Haban Berry and Focus Sash are perfectly acceptable, but unless you invest heavily in your defenses, resist berries rarely do much good. For example, Life Orb or Dragon Gem Latios will KO Hydreigon right through its Haban Berry.</p>

<p>Due to its awkward Speed tier, Hydreigon loves paralysis support; Prankster Thunder Wave and Stun Spore from Whimsicott and Thundurus are especially good choices. Pokemon that are capable of taking on Fighting-types are also a huge help. Cresselia, a solid option, can provide Thunder Wave support as well. Tailwind support is also welcome, but most of the Pokemon that set it up share an Ice-type weakness with Hydreigon, so you may have to take a few measures to stop hail teams, such as Wide Guard Fighting-types or a reliable Fire-type, in addition to using Fire Blast.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>Hydreigon's special movepool doesn't extend very far beyond the listed options, but it does get Focus Blast, Earth Power, and Charge Beam. Focus Blast is great for dealing with Tyranitar, but that's really all you'd cover with it. Earth Power is unfortunately illegal with Dark Pulse, but it can still hit Steel-types and Tyranitar. Hydreigon can also use Charge Beam, but it is an unreliable and slow way of boosting. Hydreigon has a fairly large physical movepool which includes Acrobatics, Rock Slide, Earthquake, and Crunch, and a respectable base 105 Attack with which to abuse it. Unfortunately, it does not get Dragon Claw, and will have to use the unreliable Outrage or Dragon Rush for physical Dragon-type STAB. A mixed set consisting of Draco Meteor / Crunch / Fire Blast is also viable, but as with a purely physical option, isn't as destructive as the main set. Choice sets are very attractive, but they are generally outclassed by Latios, who can do the same thing with higher Speed and Special Attack, although it misses out on Fire Blast. Surf, while considerably weaker than Fire Blast due to the doubles power drop, can still be used to take advantage of a teammate's Water Absorb, Storm Drain, or Absorb Bulb, while dealing decent chunks of damage to the opposing Pokemon. Chople Berry is good against Pokemon such as Infernape and Terrakion, but Hydreigon needs all the power it can get.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>Latios and Terrakion make Hydreigon stop in its tracks, as they are both faster and can OHKO it with powerful STAB attacks; the latter can even switch in on Dark Pulse and get an Attack boost. In the sand, Tyranitar can take Hydreigon's attacks fairly well and can strike back with Low Kick or Superpower. Opposing rain teams give Hydreigon trouble as the opponent is likely carrying more than one Pokemon with Ice Beam. Hail teams pose similar issues, though Abomasnow has to watch out for Flamethrower. Fast and powerful Bug-types such as Volcarona and Yanmega can threaten Hydreigon with STAB Bug Buzz, though Yanmega needs to be careful not to get hit by any of Hydreigon's moves because of its meager Special Defense.</p>

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i rushed it just a teeny bit but maybe you can't notice???

max speed with timid to tie other hydreigon.
dragon moves should be move # 1, dark pulse move # 2.

Speaking of Fire Blast, if you don't like he 85% accuracy, you can always use Flamethrower, but it misses out on some KO's

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can you give a few examples? (i would rather have flamethrower to still 2hko anything with occa without risking miss)
maybe even move surf to OO, hydreigon without flamethrower is p much slow latios :[

Timid LO Flamethrower vs. 252 HP Metagross 80.21% - 95.19%
Timid LO Flamethrower vs. 252 HP Occa Metagross 40.11% - 47.59%
Timid LO Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Amoonguss 51.58% - 61.54%

Yeah, I GUESS Flamethrower hits everything it needs to hard enough. I just had FB as my main option because that's what I use. Never ran calcs though, so I'll have to switch FB for FT sometime to try it out :0

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Dark Pulse is the move you're probably going to fire off most often, 2HKOing even max Special Defense Eviolite ??? 72% of the time with Timid, and 100% of the time with Modest.

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Defensive items like Haban Berry and Focus Sash are perfectly acceptable, but unless you invest heavily in your Defenses, resist berries rarely do that much good (for example, Life Orb/Dragon Gem Latios KO's right through Haban).

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Should mention Chople Berry as well. And with it, you won't need defensive EVs to survive almost all Fighting-type attacks (the type of attacks you can't survive are uncommon and absurdly powerful attacks like Heracross' Guts-boosted Close Combat (which is dealt with via Fire Blast).

Dark Pulse is the move you're probably going to fire off most often, 2HKOing even max Special Defense Eviolite 72% of the time with Timid, and 100% of the time with Modest.

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Eviolite what? Porygon2, Chency, something my mind is too lacking in creativity to even consider handing an evoilite to and yet gets obscene special defense with it? TELL US!!

Edit: Dusclops, Thanks cosmicexplorer. Like I said, something I lacked the creativity to consider.

Dusclops 9.9

Actually, factoring in critical hits and Dark Pulse's flinch chance, it's an 82% chance to 2HKO for Timid LO.

EDIT: 85% chance, sorry.

mention chople berry in oo for stuff like infernape and terrakion, after that
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I like it
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No mention of dragon gem, or even dark gem? I mean if your LO is being used on another pokemon, gems are the next best thing. A gemed draco meteor which is dangerous coming off of a monster with such high sp.atk. Im too lazy to check calcs, but im pretty sure dark gem helps gain key ko's vs trickroom users like jellicent, reuniclus, and puts a even bigger dents in cress, and musha.

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lucariojr said:

[Overview]

<p>Hydreigon certainly looks like something that would tear you limb from limb, and looking one glance at that massive base 125 base Special Attack, it is certainly should leave no doubt in your mind that it is capable of doing so. Although its Draco Meteor is slightly weaker than Latios's, and its Speed is lacking, Hydreigon boasts STAB Dark Pulse to put away eliminate dangerous support Pokemon like such as Cresselia and the powerful Fire Blast, <comma> as opposed to Latios's while Latios has to rely on non-STAB Shadow Ball and the significantly weaker Hidden Power Fire and unSTABed Shadow Ball.</p>

<p>Even in light of its perks, however, Hydreigon is in constant danger of being dispatched by faster Pokemon that can take advantage of its Fighting- <hyphen> and Dragon-type weaknesses due to its awkward base 98 Speed, <comma> and it also runs the risk of being outclassed by older Dragons Dragon-types like such as Garchomp and Latios. When using Hydreigon, it is important to use it for what its competitors cannot do.</p>

[SET]
name: Special Attacker
move 1: Draco Meteor / Dragon Pulse
move 2: Dark Pulse
move 3: Fire Blast / Flamethrower
move 4: Protect
item: Life Orb
nature: Timid / Modest
ability: Levitate
evs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Oftentimes, Hydreigon's main role in a team is to hit hard from the special side, and this set is its best bet for doing so. Dark Pulse is the move you're probably going to fire off most often, 2HKOing even max Special Defense Eviolite Dusclops 85% of the time with when using a Timid nature, and 100% of the time with when Modest. Draco Meteor is the main option due to its sheer power, though ; while Dragon Pulse is an alternative if you don't like the Special Attack drop, but the drop in power is very noticeable. Fire Blast is Hydreigon's best coverage move, and can also allows Hydreigon to perform admirably in sun. Under the sun, Fire Blast destroys even max Special Defense Bronzong and deals a minimum of 87% to 252 HP Occa Berry Metagross. Speaking of Fire Blast, if you don't like the 85% accuracy, you can always use Flamethrower, but . While it misses out on a little more power, but Life Orb Flamethrower can still 2HKO things like Occa Metagross and max SpD Special Defense Amoonguss with Life Orb. Protect is fairly self-explanatory as it keeps Hydreigon safe from Mach Punches, Draco Meteors, <comma> and Ice Shards.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>The EVs are fairly straightforward, but if you're not concerned about opposing max Speed Hydreigon, you can use a spread of 12 HP / 252 SpA / 244 Spe, which along with a Timid nature allows you to outpace Jolly Haxorus (since you're not outpacing anything else of interest with max speed) by one point with Timid. Modest Hydreigon have to run max Speed in order to outpace neutral-natured Haxorus, but if you're also not concerned with Haxorus, <comma> you can use spreads a spread of 56 HP / 252 SpA / 200 Spe for Timid and Modest ??? which one in order to outpace base 90 Pokemon like such as Lucario. Defensive items like such as Haban Berry and Focus Sash are perfectly acceptable, but unless you invest heavily in your defenses, resist berries rarely do that much good. <period> (For example, Life Orb/ or Dragon Gem Latios KO's will KO Hydreigon right through its Haban Berry).</p>

<p>Due to its awkward Speed tier, Hydreigon loves paralysis support; <semicolon> due to its awkward speed tier especially Prankster Thunder Wave and Stun Spore from Whimsicott and Thundurus are especially good choices. Pokemon that are capable of taking on Fighting- <hyphen, no space>types are also a huge help. <period> , like Cresselia, who a solid option, can provide Thunder Wave support as well. Tailwind support is also welcome, but most of the Pokemon that set it up share an Ice-type weakness with Hydreigon, so you might want may have to take a few measures to stop hail teams, such as..., in addition to using Fire Blast.</p>

[Other Options]

<p>Hydreigon's special movepool doesn't extend very far beyond the main listed options, but it does get Focus Blast, Earth Power, and Charge Beam. Focus Blast is great for dealing with Tyranitar, but that's really all you'd cover with it. Earth Power is unfortunately illegal with Dark Pulse, but it can still hit Steel-types and Tyranitar when using a Surf in a Rain team if this is important info, perhaps add 'and instead, Surf can be used as pseudo-STAB in a rain team'. Hydreigon can also somehow use Charge Beam, but it takes a while to get a few boosts in considering that it doesn't boost 100% of the time it is an unreliable and slow way of boosting. Hydreigon has a fairly large physical movepool which includes Acrobatics, Rock Slide, Earthquake, and Crunch as well as, and a respectable base 105 base Attack with which to abuse it. Unfortunately, it does not get Dragon Claw, and as such you have to will have to use the unreliable Outrage and or Dragon Rush for physical Dragon-type STAB for a purely Physical set. A mixed sets consisting of move 1 / move 2 / etc are is also viable, but both as with a purely physical option, aren't isn't as destructive as the main set. Choice sets are very attractive, but they are generally outclassed by Latios, who can do the same thing with higher Speed and Special Attack, although it misses out on Fire Blast. Surf, while considerably weaker than Fire Blast due to the doubles power drop, can still abuse be used to take advantage of a teammate's Water Absorb, Storm Drain, and or Absorb Bulb, while dealing decent chunks of damage to the opposing Pokemon. Chople Berry is good against Pokemon like such as Infernape and Terrakion, but Hydreigon needs all the power it can get.</p>

[Checks and Counters]

<p>Latios and Terrakion make Hydreigon stop in its tracks, as they are both faster and can OHKO it with powerful STAB attacks; <semicolon> and the latter can even switch in to on Dark Pulse and get an Attack boost. In the sand, Tyranitar can take Hydreigon's attacks fairly well and can strike back with Low Kick or Superpower. Opposing rain teams give Hydreigon trouble as, most likely, the opponent is likely carrying more than one Pokemon with Ice Beam. Hail is in the same boat teams pose similar issues, though Abomasnow has to watch out for Fire Blast. Fast and powerful Bug- <hyphen, no space>types like such as Volcarona and Yanmega can threaten Hydreigon with STAB Bug Buzz, though Yanmega needs to be careful around not to get hit by any of Hydreigon's moves because of its meager Special Defense.</p>

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