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Old Nov 3rd, 2011, 11:53:49 AM   #1
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Default Doubles at the arena! Darkamber Vs LouisCyphre

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Originally Posted by Fat Darkamber8828
2v2 Doubles Training Battle (Doesn't count towards w/l)
2 Day DQ (3 Day Ref)
2 Recovery/5 Chills
ASB Arena
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I'll accept Darkamber's second training challenge, please.

Irrelevant switching.
No items.
All abilities.
Team Darkamber:

Gengar


Metagross


Team LouisCyphre:
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Ambrocious (Houndour ♂)


Sorry about lack of flavor in OP, to much work to do atm, there WILL be more in the actual match tho.
Louis issue actions
DA issue actions
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Old Nov 4th, 2011, 8:09:10 AM   #2
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"Alright, you get full preparation against both opponents. You know the drill here - break them down quickly and steadily."

Absol - Thunder Wave (Gengar) | Taunt (Gengar) | Night Slash (Metagross)
If Gengar uses Substitute, steal it from him with Snatch.
If Gengar targets you with Hypnosis, Protect yourself only once and push the queue down.

Ambrocious - Will-O-Wisp (Metagross) | Fire Blast (Metagross) | Fire Blast (Metagross)
If Will-O-Wisp misses, try again and push the queue down.
If Gengar targets you with Hypnosis, repel it with Magic Coat.
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Old Nov 4th, 2011, 4:59:53 PM   #3
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fucking hell that's annoying

Well, according to the data thread, I can pretty much get a non-priority Protect against energy moves with Psychic.

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Psychic:

What Fighting is to physical prowess, Psychic is to mental. Psychic-types sense opponents energy in addition to any visual or hearing confirmation, allowing them to strike opponents from a great distance with their mental assaults and strike them even if they are physically blinded or inhibited. The same is not true if their mental concentration is disrupted through aggravating sounds. They also have a great deal of their own support moves, rivaling those of the Normal-type. Psychic Pokemon are deep into mental energy, and thus they can also use ki attacks fairly effectively. Psychic-types have intensely strong minds, and can fling opponents with Psychic attacks that their non-Psychic counterparts cannot.

Psychic-type attacks are not godlike, however. Most of them are simple mental assaults that tap into one of the opponents fears or memories. Extrasensory for example taps into memories that frighten the Pokemon, causing them to flinch. Psychic recalls moments of weakness that can lead to a lowering of special defense, and confusion using attacks generally just garble memories. While Psychic (the attack) can redirect energy attacks somewhat, it must be focused on the attack, not the Pokemon issuing it in order to have any function to that effect.

Summary: Psychic STAB; less susceptible to blinding, more susceptible to sound-based assaults as far as locking on with Psychic attacks, can lift and throw opponents with Psychic regardless of Special Attack Rank. Psychic-type attacks are not godlike and cannot be used as a catchall for Disabling, Binding, and redirecting opposing attacks.
So, Gengar, Psychic the Thunder Wave away and live to be speedy another day. If I can actually redirect it, shoot it back at Absol. Then Disable (Houndour) so that thing doesn't burn Metagross and FOCUS BLAST (Houndour).

Metagross, Agility away from that first WoW, then EARTHQUAKE SPAM.

Gengar has a lot more SpA than Absol, so I'd think dat Psychic would be pretty effective.

Just my two cents.
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Old Nov 4th, 2011, 5:07:11 PM   #4
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14:15 reffish44 since the psychic is focussed on the energy ond throws it off course
14:15 Deck_Knight Shouldn't be. When did that change? The most recent description is that it uses Weight Class against the foe, basically.
14:15 Lou http://www.smogon.com/forums/showpos...89&postcount=3
14:15 Deck_Knight In fact, Psychic STAB was basically altered because people were doing all sorts of stupid shit with it.
14:16 Deck_Knight And that happened in March
14:16 Lou Oh, so it was only for STAB, and not even that anymore?
14:16 reffish44 yeah, most STAB bonused have changed a LOT
14:16 reffish44 *bonuses
14:17 Lou well then I can't see a gengar redirecting thunder wave with a body-tossing attack
14:17 Lou any time soon
14:17 Deck_Knight It's part of Psychic STAB description, but generally speaking you can't use Psychic to deflect any kind of attack reliably. Thunder Wave is too quick in any case, but I should probably nix the whole damn thing

You should really just buy Protect and Taunt.
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Old Nov 4th, 2011, 5:21:29 PM   #5
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awwwwww

Gengar, like I always say, Confuse Ray (Absol). Ray 'n' pray. Then Disable (Houndour) so that thing doesn't burn Metagross and FOCUS BLAST (Houndour). If you actually get paralyzed before you can use your second action because hax fails me, just spam Focus Blast (Houndour) for the last two actions instead.

Metagross, Agility away from that first WoW, then EARTHQUAKE SPAM.

I am buying Taunt RIGHT after this, i swore i had it earlier

damn mechanics changes it feels like i've been gone forever
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Old Nov 6th, 2011, 12:27:48 AM   #6
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Pre Round 1


Sorry guys, dont have time for flavor atm

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Old Nov 6th, 2011, 12:30:22 AM   #7
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How did Gengar use Disable if I successfully Taunted it?
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Old Nov 8th, 2011, 8:14:15 PM   #8
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hmmmm, good question, fixing
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Old Nov 8th, 2011, 9:21:43 PM   #9
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my substitution is "if i'm paralyzed use focus blast"

i'm paralyzed

i wanna use focus blast
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Old Nov 11th, 2011, 12:41:20 PM   #10
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ah, sorry i read the sub as if Fully Paralyzed, fixing it
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Old Nov 11th, 2011, 2:09:22 PM   #11
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mk

METAGROSS

DO IT

Bullet Punch Houndour until it's dead, then Iron Head spam Absol!

Gengar, end this. Sludge Bomb ~ Focus Blast ~ Focus Blast @ Absol! If it Night Slashes you, Counter!
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Old Nov 14th, 2011, 2:20:17 AM   #12
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"Alright, we'll get our mileage out of this fight yet!"

Absol - Flash (Gengar) | Perish Song | Flash (Gengar)

Ambrocious - Sucker Punch + Reversal (Metagross) | Cooldown | Reversal (Metagross)
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Old Nov 14th, 2011, 2:58:08 AM   #13
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Pre Round 1


Sorry guys, dont have time for flavor atm

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Congratulations Darkamber on your victory!!! and congrats to LouisCyphre on your valiant effort!

Darkamber - 2 TC
Gengar - 3 MC, 1 KOC
Metagross - 2 MC, 1 DC, 1 KOC

LouisCyphre - 2 TC
Houndour - 1 EC, 2 MC, 1 DC
Absol - 2 MC, 1 DC

as well as 5 UC for me!
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Old Nov 14th, 2011, 7:31:13 AM   #14
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I really didn't expect that.

GG LouisCyphre, I thought you had completely outplayed me R1, but NFEs and FEs...sorry.

Thanks for reffing, Ragna!
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Old Nov 14th, 2011, 1:15:36 PM   #15
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No problem; I like seeing how far I can get against FEs from time to time. I get closer and closer each time...
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