Ariados (QC 3/3)

[Overview]

- Unique movepool allows Ariados to fulfill a niche in NU
- Decent typing allows him to take Close Combats with ease
- Really hurt by its 40 base speed

[SET]
name: Toxic Spikes
move 1: Toxic Spikes
move 2: Sucker Punch / Shadow Sneak
move 3: Poison Jab / Bug Bite
move 4: Protect
item: Focus Sash
ability: Insomnia
nature: Adamant
evs: 4 Hp / 252Atk / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

- Toxic Spikes is one of the few things Ariados can do without being 100$ outclassed
- A priority move is mandatory to avoid being outclassed by Garbodor
- Choose your stab move, they won't be hitting anything to hard
- Protect stops your sash from being broken from fake out users, and what else can go in that spot?
- Use as a lead so rocks aren't up

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

- Leftovers can be used instead of a focus sash
- If leftovers are used, but another STAB move in the last slot
- A physically bulky spread can be used to take hits better, but Ariados doesn't want to be taking any
[Other Options]

-A Baton Pass set can be used but Ariados lost the ability to pass Spider Web this generation, leaving it outclassed by other agility passers
- A sub disable set can also be used
- Night Shade
- pursuit


[Checks and Counters]
Grounded poison types
anything faster than it
Rock types
Ground types



Should a baton pass set be put in?
Anything not named Magikarp

ghaa, this shit gets Bounce, yet misses out on X-Scissor? I'd honestly like to see someone try to explain that pragmatically. Anywho, max speed is pretty pointless tbh. 244 Speed EVs allows him to outpace min speed base 70's, and those are pretty rare anywho (the only base 70's I could see running no speed are Lunatone/Solrock and Mantine, all of which really aren't all that common). So yeah, 244 Speed if ya want to go there, but I'd just go with 204 and toss the rest in Hp. Every bone in my body says that Focus Sash is a bad choice, but at the same time I can tell he isn't gonna be taking many hits :/ Maybe mention some alternative items? Geez this poke is frustrating, you sir have both my respect and my condolences...

I mentioned leftovers, the reason for sash is because you can send him out as a lead and hopefully get two layers down. thats really all he can do

slash neither bug bite nor shadow sneak; both are pitifully weak, especially the latter.

toxic in the last slot?

CB in OO?

agreeing with col; EVs are iffy.

and here I thought wormadam had moveset issues....

Since | 45 | Scolipede | 961 | 4.651% |, with Scolipede being likely to move up, Ariados's only competition is Garbodor, who is bulkier, has a better typing, and is much faster. Your approach at an offensive TSpiker is definitely the way to go.
On how much speed Ariados should be carrying, with max speed and Jolly it manages to speed tie with the fastest conventional walls in NU, Missy and Gardevoir. Not sure if speed tying is really worth it, but if not, shooting for the next lowest in base 65(next fastest wall would be Almomola as Lanturn is guaranteed to leave) would be a good idea.

Why is this mon so shockingly awful?

man ariados was like my favorite till i realized scyther dicked all over it

How the fuck does it not get X-scissor?

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