Hot day, isn't it?

Anikrahman1995 said:

I havent tested your team but I can tell you that Blaziken needs a jolly nature to outspeed Mewtwo. This is important to revenge Mewtwo. Also, use life orb instead of leftovers. There will be situations where you will miss the power provided by life orb.
+2 Flare Blitz always OHKOs support Groudon and always OHKO mewtwo. You may also want to try low kick over hi jump kick as it will hit for 120 base power on most opponents.
Your importable doesnt match your team.
I am testing this currently.
EDIT: After testing, I noticed that your team needs to sack a mon everytime something faster comes in. For this reason I suggest you use multiscale Lugia over Arceus.
Lugia @ Leftovers
Trait: Multiscale
EVs: 252 HP / 36 Def / 84 SDef / 136 Spd
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Thunder Wave
- Toxic
- Whirlwind
- Roost
The special defense evs are to enable you to roost against Kyogre's Choice specs Water Spout. The speed evs are to outspeed neutral nature base 95s and the HP evs are for maximum leftovers recovery. The rest in poured into defense.
Anyway, I would just like to say that this team is quite good.

Click to expand...

albinorhino said:

I like your team, but how do you deal with an arceus that has an sd under its belt? Your team can deal out all the damage needed, but you cant take any hits. If a specs rayquaza is their lead and you lead with groudon, then you lost a poke. Try looking to add some bulk. I like that you have jumpluff to block nuubpass. Also, replace flamethrower with something on reshiram, dragonpulse I can understand, but you dont need two fire and two dragon moves, as heatran murders you.


good luck

Click to expand...

CrackinSkulls said:

Hi there this is a serious HO team that you have there, I can see the OU influence in it ;). Now your team has a HUGE amount of offensive pressure, which can be very daunting, however, the only pivot switch you have really is Groudon who won't enjoy switching in on anything special. It is a fairly good team that utilizes a few underrated threats like Blaziken. However, I believe that it has some room for improvement.

Threats

The standout threats for me on against this team are:

Ho-oh in the sun is extremely dangerous and while Stealth Rock will do a number on it, the thanksgiving turkey will remain a constant thorn in your side because the only person on your team that can hope for a KO currently is Arceus.
+2 Extremespeed w/o Life Orb 252 Atk vs 248 HP/ 0 DEF Adamant Ho-oh : 71.57 - 84.1% guaranteed 2HKO
Unfortunately in the case of a sub Ho-oh you will not have any opportunity to SD so it can easily 2HKO you in return
Sacred Fire (SUN) w/o Life Orb 168 Atk vs 4 HP/ 0 Def Adamant Arceus : 56.69 - 66.93% guaranteed 2HKO
Although Groudon does have Stone Edge you have invested minimal Attack or Speed EV's so Ho-oh can simply stall out Stone Edge and burn with Sacred Fire. Dragon Tail will fail to phaze Ho-oh as even unburned it will fail to break its Substitutes.
Stone Edge (BURNED) w/o Life Orb 4 Atk Groudon vs 248 HP/ 0 Def Adamant Ho-oh (ROOST) : 26.99 - 32.29% 4-5 hits to KO
While Jumpluff would be a thorn in Ho-oh's side with encore against Substitute it does not want to mispredict and eat a Brave Bird or Sacred Fire. Even Palkia won't be able to revenge it reliably.
Surf (SUN) w/o Life Orb 252 SAtk Timid Palkia vs 248 HP/ 84 SDef Ho-oh : 27.47 - 32.53% 4-5 hits to KO
Brave Bird w/o Life Orb 168 Atk Adamant Ho-oh vs 4 HP/ 0 Def Timid Palkia : 42.37 - 49.84% guaranteed 2HKO after SR

The second biggest threat i can see is SAND and more specifically Excadrill

Sand will also have a huge advantage against this team because it can take away Jumpluff's speed, Blazikens strength and give your opponent a massive advantage. Excadrill in the sand will singlehandedly 6-0 you. Even Groudon will be KO'd before you can do anything to it.
+2 Earthquake w/ Life Orb 252 Atk Adamant Excadrill vs 252 HP/ 252 Def Impish Groudon : 67.57 - 79.48% guaranteed 2HKO
While Life Orb Excadrill does hit like a truck it isn't as dangerous as Air Balloons Excadrill because Groudon can simply KO back with Earthquake however Air Balloons Excadrill will also hit hard and KO you before you can touch it. It doesn't even need Jolly because it will oustpeed everything on your team including +2 Blaziken in the sun
+2 Earthquake w/o Life Orb 252 Atk Adamant Excadrill vs 252 HP/ 252 Def Impish Groudon : 51.98 - 61.14% guaranteed 2HKO
even the more common (with Air Balloon) Jolly Excadrill will do:
+2 Earthquake w/o Life Orb 252 Atk Jolly Excadrill vs 252 HP/ 252 Def Impish Groudon : 47.52 - 55.94% ~80% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock.
After Groudon is KO'd your entire team is OHKO'd by a +2 Excadrill with the exception of Ferrothorn who is set up fodder allowing to to belt even more SD's. Excadrill can't even be revenge killed by Arceus thanks to his Steel typing.
Extremespeed w/o Life Orb 252 Atk Adamant Arceus vs 4 HP/ 0 Def Excadrill : 28.18 - 33.43% 3-4 Hits to KO

Team Changes

Now onto team changes:

===>

First off I suggest replacing Ferrothorn with Giratina-A. Not only does it give a great deal of bulk to the team, giving a safe switch-in to Kyogre it can also phaze out Ho-oh, forcing it to take another round of Stealth Rock damage and burn Excadrill, rendering it useless for the rest of the match. You don't lose out on much save the ability to lay down hazards and you gain a more reliable way to take on powerful threats such as Extreme Killer Arceus which can be Burned and phazed out. To give you and idea of its sturdiness i will attach some damage calcs:
+2 Earthquake w/o Life Orb 252 Atk Jolly Excadrill vs 252 HP/ 252 Def Impish Giratina-A : 42.26 - 50% guaranteed 3HKO (2HKO after SR)
although it does hit very hard once he tanks the first hit he can simply burn it, rest off the damage and phaze it out. The same applies for Extreme Killer Arceus
+2 Shadow Claw w/o Life Orb 252 Atk Adamant Arceus vs 252 HP/ 252 Def Impish Giratina-A : 40.08 - 47.22% guaranteed 3HKO
It can also shrug off anything Ho-oh has to throw at it.
Brave Bird w/o Life Orb 168 Atk Adamant Ho-oh vs 252 HP/ 252 Def Impish Giratina-A : 17.06 - 20.24% 5-6 hits to KO
Although it can't burn Ho-oh it literally takes pittance from anything Ho-oh has to offer. Keep in mind though if you run Dragon Tail Ho-oh can actually beat you 1v1 because it will fail to Break its Subs.

===>

Next up as much as you love Jumpluff and as annoying as it is i think it should be replaced by Sub-Seed Shaymin-S. Although you do lose out on the insanely fast Encore and Sleep Powder you do gain a few things. First and foremost you get Seed Flare. It is also far more difficult to counter because common switch ins to it such as Arceus-Grass won't be nearly as safe due to Air Slash. Also Behind a Sub it is free to fire off Seed Flares as well as SubSeed making it fare more difficult to counter. It tear a huge chunk out of all the weather inducers notably Tyranitar ending any hopes Excadrill had.
Seed Flare w/o Life Orb 252 SAtk Timid Shaymin-S vs 252 HP/ 184 SDef Tyranitar (SAND) : 70.54 - 83.17% guaranteed 2HKO
Seed Flare w/o Life Orb 252 SAtk Timid Shaymin-S vs 4 HP/ 0 SDef Kyogre : 81.82 - 96.77% guaranteed 2HKO
It also has a neat niche for its flinch-haxing which lets it get past things like Darkrai and Arceus-Grass and the likes (basically anything that it is faster than). It will not only serve as a SubSeeder but also as a Sub Attacker which is in keeping with the HO theme of the team. Behind a Sub it is safe to either start seeding away or to fire off Seed Flares and Air Slashes.

===>

Lastly Arceus doesn't provide you with a great deal of synergy so although you will lose out on a fair bit of power I suggest an Arceus-Steel over your current form. He gels nicely in my opinion with all his teammates and you don't have to forgo a powerful SD sweeper. He rounds off a neat set of resistances which means that although your team is jam-packed with hard hitters they can also share a few hits between them. While he could take a back-seat role given the nature of your team I'm sure you would be dying to slap SD on him. He has great synergy and can punch big holes in anything unresisted.

Nitpicks

Now for a couple of nitpicks. Blaziken loves Life Orb. Although it may seem counterproductive with his recoil moves it makes him punch a lot harder, something very much necessary in the ubers environment. anyway if your expecting him to stick around you aren't using him right.

Summary

In summary:
Giratina-A>Ferrothorn
Pros: Better check to Ho-oh and Excadrill. Sturdier physical wall. Recovery Will-O-Wisp + Phazing.
Cons: No entry hazards or Leech Seed

Arceus-Steel>Arceus
Pros: Better Synergy. Much better resist; easier time setting up.
Cons: No Extremespeed and if you run it no STAB.

Shaymin-S>Jumpluff
Pros: Harder hittng. Less Sun reliant. Harder to counter.
Cons: Not as fast. No Encore or Sleep Powder.

LO on Blaziken
Pros: Hits MUCH harder.
Cons: Doesn't live as long.

The Sets

Arceus-Steel @ Steel Plate
Trait: Multitype
252 Atk/ 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature (+ Spe, -SAtk)
- Swords Dance
- Iron Head
- Earthquake/ Extremespeed/ Brick Break
- Recover

Giratina @ Leftovers
Trait: Pressure
252 HP/ 244 Def/ 12 Spe
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Rest
- Sleep Talk
- Roar/ Dragon Tail
- Will-O-Wisp

Shaymin-S @ Leftovers
Trait: Serene Grace
252 SAtk/ 4 SDef/ 252 Spe
Timid Nature (+Spe, -Atk)
- Substitute
- Leech Seed
- Air Slash
- Seed Flare

Ok well thats that. I hope you take time to read it all even if it is a bit long because you could get something out of it. anyway good luck with your team and i hope i could help.

Click to expand...

TrollFreak said:

Hello lousy, great team. As you requested, here's my rate.

The first thing I notice is that Ferrothorn has no attacks at all. Now, while using all four attacks is great and all, I would suggest using Power Whip > Thunder Wave. With Power Whip, you can hit Kyogre and Groundon hard, as well as Pokemon such as Tyranitar, which makes it easier for the team to deal with Excadrill and others. Also, with no HP investment, your Ferrothorn won't last long. A simple change to 252 HP / 48 Atk / 208 SDef helps with that, as you tank Kyorge better, as well as being able to deal massive damage to Kyogre and others. Also, shifting that 4 HP EVs into SDef on Palkia also helps, as you avoid taking extra damage from entry hazards, just a pro tip.

Well ok then, some things bother me about this team. You say you use Groundon to check SD Arceus, but since SD Arceus is a late game cleaner, you'll need something more reliable to keep it in tow. Plus, a Fighting + Ground immunity will go a long way in making sure Terrakion and Offensive Groundon aren't troublesome. As such, going to reflect CrackingSkulls suggestion of Giratina, though I'm suggesting Giratina-O > Jumpluff. I know Jumpluff is great at what it does, but what Giratina-O does, keep hazards in play to ease sweeps for Arceus and Blaziken, check offensive physical threats, phazing to rack up damage, is just too good to pass up. Also, your team still has trouble with Pokemon such as Mewtwo, switching into Kyurem-White will be hard, and the Latis are also hard to check with this team. As such, using a sun teams super glue, Heatran > Blaziken works, as Heatran not only deals with sets without Aura Sphere, it helps to deal with Darkrai, screws over Steels so Arceus sweeps better, as well as racking up damage with Roar to scout switch ins, and Toxic to cripple Pokemon such as Lugia, preventing them from being troublesome. If you use this, using Giratina-O is needed, as both work hand in hand with one another.

Great team, heres the tl;dr version.

Summary

New Spread + Power Whip > T-Wave on Ferro
Pros: Hitting Kyogre, Groundon, Tyranitar, as well as breaking Garchomps subs, prevents you from being Taunt bait; more HP to tank Kyorge's Water Spout, Atk EVs are for breaking Sub Dark Arceus, you can always transfer those EVs into Special Defense or Defense if you want

Cons: Losing T-Wave to cripple things, but you need stuff burned and poisoned(Toxic + WoW on Gira-O/Tran) so it'll play out, less HP back from Leech Seed

4 SDef EVs > 4 HP on Palkia
Pros: Less Entry Hazard Damage
Cons: You wanna tell me one? Less Entry Hazard damage is always nice

Gira-O > Jumpluff
Pros: Fight+Ground Immune, Will-O-Wisp for SD Arceus, Terrakion, Groundon, and other physical threats, Dragon Tail for phazing, HP Fire gets rid of Skarm and Ferro so Arceus smashes with ease, Spin blocking

Cons: Losing something that can be annoying in sun, but think of Jumpluff as Whimsicott. Gira-O gels with the team easier, and it brings great bulk and resistences to the team

Heatran > Blaziken
Pros: Superglue that does so much, breaks down stall with Taunt, Toxic cripples Pokemon such as Kyorge on the switch, breaking them down(hitting Lugia is nice too) great Mewtwo and reliable Kyurem-White switch in, deals with Latis(in Sun ofc, in rain surf hurts) Deals with steels for Arceus

Cons: Losing a powerful sweeper, which puts more pressure on Arceus to sweep, but you could always use offensive Groundon to keep up some offensive pressure

Sets

Giratina-O @ Griseous Orb
Trait: Levitate
EVs: 208 HP / 60 Atk / 188 Def / 44 SAtk / 8 Spd
Naughty Nature (+Atk, -SDef)
- Will-O-Wisp
- Dragon Tail
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Shadow Sneak

Heatran (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Flash Fire
EVs: 248 HP / 152 SDef / 108 Spd
Calm Nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Taunt
- Toxic
- Roar
- Flamethrower

Good Luck, hope I helped!

Click to expand...