(Copyediting) Liepard [QC 3/3]

**sandshrewz** · Sep 4th, 2012, 4:16:15 AM

I have not written an analysis in ages so here goes~~ haha x)

Catwoman

[Overview]

Liepard could be once considered a useless Pokemon in RU; it had considerably poor stats except a good base 106 Speed and its non-existent bulk did no favors. However, Liepard gained Prankster from the Dream World with which to better utilize its rather good support movepool. With Prankster, Liepard falls into the category with a handful of Prankster weather inducers. Liepard possesses yet another combination of support moves that wasn't entire the same as other Prankster users, paving a niche for itself as the other Prankster users did. In contrast with other Prankster Pokemon, Liepard can actually go on the offensive instead of completely relying on its ability as a support Pokemon. It has access to Nasty Plot to boost its base 88 Special Attack with, which is a lot more useful than an offensive Tail Glow Volbeat with base 47 Special Attack. Unlike Volbeat, however, it cannot Baton Pass its boosts to teammates. Much like most other Prankster users, Liepard is rather frail and can sometimes be hard to use fully. Still, Liepard is a Pokemon that can be used although it may not be a top tier threat, but nevertheless a threat on its own.

[SET]
name: Nasty Plot
move 1: Nasty Plot
move 2: Encore / Thunder Wave
move 3: Dark Pulse
move 4: Hidden Power Fire
item: Life Orb
ability: Prankster
nature: Timid
evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

Liepard has an average base 88 Special Attack but a pretty useful base 106 Speed. While Liepard's offenses may not be considered high enough for a special attacker, it has access to Nasty Plot to bolster its Special Attack to something much more useable and even threatening. Thanks to Prankster, Liepard can find some ease in setting up despite its low defenses. Encore can trap opponents in their non-attacking and other set-up moves. For example, Calm Mind Sigilyph would be simply become setup fodder for Liepard after being Encored. However, Liepard cannot risk trying to Encore against sweepers with priority moves such as Aqua Jet Feraligatr and Kabutops. Liepard can also take advantage of Pokemon such as Qwilfish that are trying to set up multiple layers of entry hazards. However, Thunder Wave can be used as an alternative support move for the team and to ease set up or paralyze switch-ins. After either Encore is used, the next turn would be an excellent opportunity to set up Nasty Plot and take advantage of an almost guaranteed switch. Dark Pulse is a reliable STAB move while Hidden Power Fire is used as a coverage move against Steel-types and common specially defensive behemoths that is Cryogonal. The EVs used are straightforwardto maximize Speed and Special Attack. Life Orb gives the all important boost to Liepard's attacks and it isn't much affected by a quickly depleting HP as it is unlikely to survive any considerably strong attack.

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

Liepard's base 88 Special Attack might not look like much, but here are some damage calculations to show how strong it actually is after a Nasty Plot:

<ul class="damange_calculation">
<li>Dark Pulse vs. 4/0 Nidoqueen 92.54 - 109.31%</li>
<li>Dark Pulse vs. 4/0 Kabutops 133.96 - 157.63%</li>
<li>Dark Pulse vs. 0/0 Moltres 92.83 - 109.65%</li>
<li>Hidden Power Fire vs. 248/252+ Cryogonal 51.6 - 61.51%</li>
<li>Dark Pulse vs. 252/252+ Clefable 50.76 - 60.4%</li>
<li>Dark Pulse vs. 40/216+ Lanturn 57.6 - 68.07%</li>
</ul>

Grass Knot is also an option over Hidden Power Fire to hit Water-types such as Quagsire, Crawdaunt, and Poliwrath super effectively. If Grass Knot is used, Steelix can work as a teammate by walling Pokemon such as Escalavier and Kingklang. However, if Hidden Power Fire is used, Grass- or Electric-type teammates such as Rotom-C and Sceptile can be used to deal with bullky Water-types such as Lanturn and more importantly, Poliwrath. Hidden Power Fighting is also another option aginst Aggron but Hidden Power Fire is usually recommended as it also allows Liepard to hit Bug-types super effectively. As Liepard is rather frail, dual screens support from Pokemon such as Uxie is recommended. Furthermore, Uxie can also use U-turn to bring Liepard in safely. Liepard will also face problems against Fighting-types, so Ghost- and Psychic-types such as Spiritomb and Uxie, respectively, are great teammates for it. Qwilfish is also a plausible teammate as it can check Fighting-types with Intimidate and its Poison typing while also setting up Spikes which helps to guarantee an OHKO on Nidoqueen and 2HKOs on Lanturn and Clefable with 2 layers. Furthermore, Qwilfish helps to deal with priority moves such as ExtremeSpeed from Entei. Choice Scarf users can also put a stop to Liepard as well.

[SET]
name: Weather Support
move 1: Rain Dance / Sunny Day
move 2: Encore
move 3: Taunt / Thunder Wave
move 4: U-turn
item: Damp Rock / Heat Rock
ability: Prankster
nature: Careful
evs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD

[SET COMMENTS]

Liepard is one of the few Pokemon with access to Prankster. Furthermore, it can also use Rain Dance and Sunny Day along with Prankster, making it an ideal priority weather inducer. Unlike Volbeat and Illumise, Liepard is not weak to Stealth Rock and hence have better survivability even with the presence of Stealth Rock; they also have comparable bulk, or the lack thereof. Encore helps Liepard to gain a free turn so that it can set up the appropriate weather or trap a Pokemon in its set up move such as a Gallade's Swords Dance. Liepard also has access to Taunt which could be useful against opposing weather teams or to prevent the opponent from setting up their weather. It also stops the opponent from using status and support moves or from setting up. U-turn is obligatory for Liepard to switch out to its teammates. Against Trick Room teams, Taunt and Encore are both valuable tools; the former prevents Trick Room from being set while Encore forces the Trick Room user to switch or undo Trick Room on the next turn.

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

The given EVs are to maximize special bulk so as to better allow Liepard to come in on weak special attacks such as Lanturn's Scald. However, a physically defensive EV spread along with Impish can also be opted for; it also reduces the damage taken by Volbeat's U-turn, which can really limit Liepard's ability to win the weather war with a Volbeat. Weather sweepers are obvious teammates for Liepard. Omastar, Ludicolo, and Kabutops fit the bill for rain sweepers while Victreebel, Exeggutor, and Sawsbuck are options for sun teams. Encore not only lets Liepard set up, but it also opens up opportunities for a free switch to the weather sweepers. Other weather inducers can also work well alongside Liepard, as given its poor bulk and inability to maintain a high HP in the long run. Prankster weather inducers also work well as teammates if you want a fast-paced team, but bulkier weather supporters such as Rotom-C can work as well when faced against an offensive team so that Liepard doesn't become a one-trick pony.

[Other Options]

Toxic
Yawn /me *yawns*
Torment
Should I mention the gimmicky Swagger + Foul Play + Twave

[Check and Counters]

Anything reasonably strong will do significant damage to it
Strong offensive presence makes it hard to switch into
Volbeat + Illumise gives Liepard problems because double U-turn KOes @.@
Volbeat can Encore Liepard as it uses a weather move since it's slower and can U-turn and do good damage if it Taunts
Liepard can't exactly beat Volbeat with U-turn .-.
Quagsire / Poli / Crawdaunt beats it if no Grass Knot on NP set
priority wrecks.
Steel-types wall it if no HP Fire.
Faster Pokemon / Choice Scarf
Durant if it gets unbanned because it's faster

Cherub Agent · Sep 4th, 2012, 5:53:19 AM

sandz the offensive set is actually quite cool. Liepard has a niche in setting up due to Prankster and Encore, which is extremely useful. The set would be Nasty Plot, Encore, Dark Pulse, HP Fighting. Just come in on a non damaging move (this includes OTHER pokemon trying to set up, which is simply awesome) and lock them into their move, whether it be Substitute, an entry hazard, a Psychic-type move, a setup move, etc. Liepard's great speed really does allow it to sweep. I've used the set to success, it's one of my favourite non-standard Pokemon actually.

**sandshrewz** · Sep 4th, 2012, 7:52:11 AM

Liepard also sits at a pretty nice Speed tier... if QC agrees I'll add the offensive set in ^_^ thanks! Also PS didn't give Liepard U-turn fsr .-. It's legal !_!

**Molk** · Oct 6th, 2012, 3:23:11 PM

im not going to approve this just yet because i cant actually test the weather support set on the ladder because it keeps telling me it doesnt get u-turn -_-. But what i DID test was a Nasty Plot set. I personally feel it should be added to the analysis after playing a few matches with it, its pretty cool. The set should look like this

[SET]
name: Nasty Plot
move 1: Nasty Plot
move 2: Encore
move 3: Dark Pulse
move 4: Hidden Power Fire / Grass Knot
item: Life Orb
ability: Prankster
nature: Timid
evs: 252 Spa / 4 Def / 252 Spe

Im not exactly sure on the last move, but ive been using hidden power fire lately to hit escavalier and ferroseed harder than hp fighting.

The basic goal of this set is to 1) stop opponents trying to use set up moves of their own such as fraxure and sigilyph, and 2) Set up a Nasty Plot of its own and demolish the opponent. Liepard is very frail, but it can still set up by forcing switches with its priority encore and high speed, from there, liepard hits quite hard, and is more than capable of sweeping. Mention that opposing priority can stop liepard's sweep quite easily, especially entei's extremespeed. Also mention that depending on the coverage move you use, you will be walled by different things. Hidden power fire is walled by Poliwrath and Crawdaunt, among other things. fighting is walled by escavalier, and grass knot is walled by escavalier and ferroseed, for example. No matter what coverage move liepard uses, it will have trouble with fighting types ;_;.

not approving just yet because of the already stated bug thingy, but this set has my approval.

**sandshrewz** · Oct 7th, 2012, 6:44:11 AM

Thanks Molk! ^_^ Added the NP set! Roflol I never realized HP Fire was superior to HP Fighting o.o Andddd the weather set is good okay u_u

Nozzle · Oct 20th, 2012, 7:29:57 PM

Im not excactly sure how does on Liepard in RU but ive used it numerous times and it was succesfull.

[SET]
name: FoulSwag
move 1: Thunder Wave / Taunt
move 2: Substitute
move 3: Swagger
move 4: Foul Play
item: Leftovers / Focus Sash?
ability: Prankster
nature: Careful
evs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD

Swagger a poke that you know you can live an attack from. Sub until opponents hits itself. Now you can use a STAB Foul Play move at +2 because it uses your opponents attack. Good luck trollin with this.

**blarajan** · Oct 21st, 2012, 2:57:20 PM

I'm testing the Nasty Plot set myself. I'll stamp when I actually see if it doesn't suck.

Blarajan sucks

**blarajan** · Oct 29th, 2012, 6:17:03 PM

Make Nasty Plot the first set; it's actually really good. Make Thunder Wave the second slash on Encore. I want you to show some calcs of Liepard at +2 (like against Nidoqueen, Kabutops, Moltres, Uxie, and Cresselia...they're impressive!) I'd move the Grass Knot slash to the AC instead; HP Fire is too useful. I want you to expand on checks and counters, by listing priority, things that aren't threatened, etc.

QC 1/3

**Molk** · Oct 29th, 2012, 6:20:18 PM

Nozzle's Foul play set is actually pretty fun to use but im not 100% sure if it should be anywhere outside of OO because of how luck reliant it is, used liepard a bit myself and it was fun, echoing blarajan's changes.

Otherwise

QC approved 2/3

SilentVerse · Oct 29th, 2012, 8:02:32 PM

QC Approved 3/3

**sandshrewz** · Oct 31st, 2012, 9:57:00 AM

All done! Thanks blarajan, Molk, SilentVerse! :) Also wow the calcs ._____.

Sep 4th, 2012, 4:16:15 AM	#1
sandshrewz 南Potest 华Qui 人Vult Moderator Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,430 Live like there's no tomorrow Mentor	Liepard [QC 3/3] I have not written an analysis in ages so here goes~~ haha x) Catwoman [Overview] <p>Liepard could be once considered a useless Pokemon in RU; it had considerably poor stats except a good base 106 Speed and its non-existent bulk did no favors. However, Liepard gained Prankster from the Dream World with which to better utilize its rather good support movepool. With Prankster, Liepard falls into the category with a handful of Prankster weather inducers. Liepard possesses yet another combination of support moves that wasn't entire the same as other Prankster users, paving a niche for itself as the other Prankster users did. In contrast with other Prankster Pokemon, Liepard can actually go on the offensive instead of completely relying on its ability as a support Pokemon. It has access to Nasty Plot to boost its base 88 Special Attack with, which is a lot more useful than an offensive Tail Glow Volbeat with base 47 Special Attack. Unlike Volbeat, however, it cannot Baton Pass its boosts to teammates. Much like most other Prankster users, Liepard is rather frail and can sometimes be hard to use fully. Still, Liepard is a Pokemon that can be used although it may not be a top tier threat, but nevertheless a threat on its own.</p> [SET] name: Nasty Plot move 1: Nasty Plot move 2: Encore / Thunder Wave move 3: Dark Pulse move 4: Hidden Power Fire item: Life Orb ability: Prankster nature: Timid evs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe [SET COMMENTS] <p>Liepard has an average base 88 Special Attack but a pretty useful base 106 Speed. While Liepard's offenses may not be considered high enough for a special attacker, it has access to Nasty Plot to bolster its Special Attack to something much more useable and even threatening. Thanks to Prankster, Liepard can find some ease in setting up despite its low defenses. Encore can trap opponents in their non-attacking and other set-up moves. For example, Calm Mind Sigilyph would be simply become setup fodder for Liepard after being Encored. However, Liepard cannot risk trying to Encore against sweepers with priority moves such as Aqua Jet Feraligatr and Kabutops. Liepard can also take advantage of Pokemon such as Qwilfish that are trying to set up multiple layers of entry hazards. However, Thunder Wave can be used as an alternative support move for the team and to ease set up or paralyze switch-ins. After either Encore is used, the next turn would be an excellent opportunity to set up Nasty Plot and take advantage of an almost guaranteed switch. Dark Pulse is a reliable STAB move while Hidden Power Fire is used as a coverage move against Steel-types and common specially defensive behemoths that is Cryogonal. The EVs used are straightforwardto maximize Speed and Special Attack. Life Orb gives the all important boost to Liepard's attacks and it isn't much affected by a quickly depleting HP as it is unlikely to survive any considerably strong attack.</p> [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS] <p>Liepard's base 88 Special Attack might not look like much, but here are some damage calculations to show how strong it actually is after a Nasty Plot:</p> <ul class="damange_calculation"> <li>Dark Pulse vs. 4/0 Nidoqueen 92.54 - 109.31%</li> <li>Dark Pulse vs. 4/0 Kabutops 133.96 - 157.63%</li> <li>Dark Pulse vs. 0/0 Moltres 92.83 - 109.65%</li> <li>Hidden Power Fire vs. 248/252+ Cryogonal 51.6 - 61.51%</li> <li>Dark Pulse vs. 252/252+ Clefable 50.76 - 60.4%</li> <li>Dark Pulse vs. 40/216+ Lanturn 57.6 - 68.07%</li> </ul> <p>Grass Knot is also an option over Hidden Power Fire to hit Water-types such as Quagsire, Crawdaunt, and Poliwrath super effectively. If Grass Knot is used, Steelix can work as a teammate by walling Pokemon such as Escalavier and Kingklang. However, if Hidden Power Fire is used, Grass- or Electric-type teammates such as Rotom-C and Sceptile can be used to deal with bullky Water-types such as Lanturn and more importantly, Poliwrath. Hidden Power Fighting is also another option aginst Aggron but Hidden Power Fire is usually recommended as it also allows Liepard to hit Bug-types super effectively. As Liepard is rather frail, dual screens support from Pokemon such as Uxie is recommended. Furthermore, Uxie can also use U-turn to bring Liepard in safely. Liepard will also face problems against Fighting-types, so Ghost- and Psychic-types such as Spiritomb and Uxie, respectively, are great teammates for it. Qwilfish is also a plausible teammate as it can check Fighting-types with Intimidate and its Poison typing while also setting up Spikes which helps to guarantee an OHKO on Nidoqueen and 2HKOs on Lanturn and Clefable with 2 layers. Furthermore, Qwilfish helps to deal with priority moves such as ExtremeSpeed from Entei. Choice Scarf users can also put a stop to Liepard as well.</p> [SET] name: Weather Support move 1: Rain Dance / Sunny Day move 2: Encore move 3: Taunt / Thunder Wave move 4: U-turn item: Damp Rock / Heat Rock ability: Prankster nature: Careful evs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD [SET COMMENTS] <p>Liepard is one of the few Pokemon with access to Prankster. Furthermore, it can also use Rain Dance and Sunny Day along with Prankster, making it an ideal priority weather inducer. Unlike Volbeat and Illumise, Liepard is not weak to Stealth Rock and hence have better survivability even with the presence of Stealth Rock; they also have comparable bulk, or the lack thereof. Encore helps Liepard to gain a free turn so that it can set up the appropriate weather or trap a Pokemon in its set up move such as a Gallade's Swords Dance. Liepard also has access to Taunt which could be useful against opposing weather teams or to prevent the opponent from setting up their weather. It also stops the opponent from using status and support moves or from setting up. U-turn is obligatory for Liepard to switch out to its teammates. Against Trick Room teams, Taunt and Encore are both valuable tools; the former prevents Trick Room from being set while Encore forces the Trick Room user to switch or undo Trick Room on the next turn.</p> [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS] <p>The given EVs are to maximize special bulk so as to better allow Liepard to come in on weak special attacks such as Lanturn's Scald. However, a physically defensive EV spread along with Impish can also be opted for; it also reduces the damage taken by Volbeat's U-turn, which can really limit Liepard's ability to win the weather war with a Volbeat. Weather sweepers are obvious teammates for Liepard. Omastar, Ludicolo, and Kabutops fit the bill for rain sweepers while Victreebel, Exeggutor, and Sawsbuck are options for sun teams. Encore not only lets Liepard set up, but it also opens up opportunities for a free switch to the weather sweepers. Other weather inducers can also work well alongside Liepard, as given its poor bulk and inability to maintain a high HP in the long run. Prankster weather inducers also work well as teammates if you want a fast-paced team, but bulkier weather supporters such as Rotom-C can work as well when faced against an offensive team so that Liepard doesn't become a one-trick pony.</p> [Other Options] Toxic Yawn /me yawns Torment Should I mention the gimmicky Swagger + Foul Play + Twave [Check and Counters] Anything reasonably strong will do significant damage to it Strong offensive presence makes it hard to switch into Volbeat + Illumise gives Liepard problems because double U-turn KOes @.@ Volbeat can Encore Liepard as it uses a weather move since it's slower and can U-turn and do good damage if it Taunts Liepard can't exactly beat Volbeat with U-turn .-. Quagsire / Poli / Crawdaunt beats it if no Grass Knot on NP set priority wrecks. Steel-types wall it if no HP Fire. Faster Pokemon / Choice Scarf Durant if it gets unbanned because it's faster __________________ Thanks for voting for The Smog Awards! ^_^ Member of the GP Team- VM for a check / stamp! Chinese Translation Project \|\| Art Thread \|\| NU Sun \| NU Rain Last edited by sandshrewz; Mar 25th, 2013 at 10:45:04 AM. Reason: writing

Sep 4th, 2012, 5:53:19 AM	#2
Cherub Agent I may be dead, but I'm still pretty. Which is more than I can say for you Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 2,230 intimidatingly cute Mentor	sandz the offensive set is actually quite cool. Liepard has a niche in setting up due to Prankster and Encore, which is extremely useful. The set would be Nasty Plot, Encore, Dark Pulse, HP Fighting. Just come in on a non damaging move (this includes OTHER pokemon trying to set up, which is simply awesome) and lock them into their move, whether it be Substitute, an entry hazard, a Psychic-type move, a setup move, etc. Liepard's great speed really does allow it to sweep. I've used the set to success, it's one of my favourite non-standard Pokemon actually. __________________ (16:08) <@skylight> BUT I DID NOTHING WRONG (16:08) <@skylight> CHERUB (16:08) <@skylight> i will FUCK YOU (17:20) <@skylight> ill luvdisc your ass

Sep 4th, 2012, 7:52:11 AM	#3
sandshrewz 南Potest 华Qui 人Vult Moderator Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,430 Live like there's no tomorrow Mentor	Liepard also sits at a pretty nice Speed tier... if QC agrees I'll add the offensive set in ^_^ thanks! Also PS didn't give Liepard U-turn fsr .-. It's legal !_! __________________ Thanks for voting for The Smog Awards! ^_^ Member of the GP Team- VM for a check / stamp! Chinese Translation Project \|\| Art Thread \|\| NU Sun \| NU Rain

Oct 6th, 2012, 3:23:11 PM	#4
Molk Recipe for disaster Moderator Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,214 Long Island	im not going to approve this just yet because i cant actually test the weather support set on the ladder because it keeps telling me it doesnt get u-turn -_-. But what i DID test was a Nasty Plot set. I personally feel it should be added to the analysis after playing a few matches with it, its pretty cool. The set should look like this [SET] name: Nasty Plot move 1: Nasty Plot move 2: Encore move 3: Dark Pulse move 4: Hidden Power Fire / Grass Knot item: Life Orb ability: Prankster nature: Timid evs: 252 Spa / 4 Def / 252 Spe Im not exactly sure on the last move, but ive been using hidden power fire lately to hit escavalier and ferroseed harder than hp fighting. The basic goal of this set is to 1) stop opponents trying to use set up moves of their own such as fraxure and sigilyph, and 2) Set up a Nasty Plot of its own and demolish the opponent. Liepard is very frail, but it can still set up by forcing switches with its priority encore and high speed, from there, liepard hits quite hard, and is more than capable of sweeping. Mention that opposing priority can stop liepard's sweep quite easily, especially entei's extremespeed. Also mention that depending on the coverage move you use, you will be walled by different things. Hidden power fire is walled by Poliwrath and Crawdaunt, among other things. fighting is walled by escavalier, and grass knot is walled by escavalier and ferroseed, for example. No matter what coverage move liepard uses, it will have trouble with fighting types ;_;. not approving just yet because of the already stated bug thingy, but this set has my approval. __________________ 16:46 <TLCNU> Esca literally is 2HKO'd by Stoutland Fire Fang 10:33 skylight molk put me in your sig Last edited by Molk; Oct 6th, 2012 at 3:34:51 PM. Reason: removed hp fighting on request, it only hits aggron

Oct 7th, 2012, 6:44:11 AM	#5
sandshrewz 南Potest 华Qui 人Vult Moderator Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,430 Live like there's no tomorrow Mentor	Thanks Molk! ^_^ Added the NP set! Roflol I never realized HP Fire was superior to HP Fighting o.o Andddd the weather set is good okay u_u __________________ Thanks for voting for The Smog Awards! ^_^ Member of the GP Team- VM for a check / stamp! Chinese Translation Project \|\| Art Thread \|\| NU Sun \| NU Rain

Oct 20th, 2012, 7:29:57 PM	#6
Nozzle Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 135	Im not excactly sure how does on Liepard in RU but ive used it numerous times and it was succesfull. [SET] name: FoulSwag move 1: Thunder Wave / Taunt move 2: Substitute move 3: Swagger move 4: Foul Play item: Leftovers / Focus Sash? ability: Prankster nature: Careful evs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD Swagger a poke that you know you can live an attack from. Sub until opponents hits itself. Now you can use a STAB Foul Play move at +2 because it uses your opponents attack. Good luck trollin with this. __________________ <Frizy> ILL JERK UNTIL I JIZZ DUST %WaterBomb: Nozzle: how the fuck do you fit that <---that's what SHE said

Oct 21st, 2012, 2:57:20 PM	#7
blarajan no abuse pls Moderator Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 2,717 Mentor	I'm testing the Nasty Plot set myself. I'll stamp when I actually see if it doesn't suck. Blarajan sucks __________________ Team Babby: Little Cup in Ubers RMT Last edited by Omicron; Oct 21st, 2012 at 5:42:27 PM.

Oct 29th, 2012, 6:17:03 PM	#8
blarajan no abuse pls Moderator Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 2,717 Mentor	Make Nasty Plot the first set; it's actually really good. Make Thunder Wave the second slash on Encore. I want you to show some calcs of Liepard at +2 (like against Nidoqueen, Kabutops, Moltres, Uxie, and Cresselia...they're impressive!) I'd move the Grass Knot slash to the AC instead; HP Fire is too useful. I want you to expand on checks and counters, by listing priority, things that aren't threatened, etc. QC 1/3 __________________ Team Babby: Little Cup in Ubers RMT

Oct 29th, 2012, 6:20:18 PM	#9
Molk Recipe for disaster Moderator Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,214 Long Island	Nozzle's Foul play set is actually pretty fun to use but im not 100% sure if it should be anywhere outside of OO because of how luck reliant it is, used liepard a bit myself and it was fun, echoing blarajan's changes. Otherwise QC approved 2/3 __________________ 16:46 <TLCNU> Esca literally is 2HKO'd by Stoutland Fire Fang 10:33 skylight molk put me in your sig

Oct 29th, 2012, 8:02:32 PM	#10
SilentVerse Into the New World Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 643	QC Approved 3/3

Oct 31st, 2012, 9:57:00 AM	#11
sandshrewz 南Potest 华Qui 人Vult Moderator Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 1,430 Live like there's no tomorrow Mentor	All done! Thanks blarajan, Molk, SilentVerse! :) Also wow the calcs ._____. __________________ Thanks for voting for The Smog Awards! ^_^ Member of the GP Team- VM for a check / stamp! Chinese Translation Project \|\| Art Thread \|\| NU Sun \| NU Rain