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Hi there, folks! It's December, and aside from meaning that we're all maxing our our credit cards getting gifts for our friends and families, it means that we're tentatively one month away from another usage-based tier update! So enjoy November's stats, and let the theorymonning commence!

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With all the suspect testing that's been going on, I don't put much stock in these predictions. Also bear in mind that if UU and RU proceed with their suspect tests this month, we will have to push back the tier update until February.
  • Abomasnow down to UU from OU
  • Absol up to RU from NU
  • Cinccino up to RU from NU
  • Roselia down to NU from RU
  • Stoutland down to NU from RU
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OU: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1401557/
UU: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1401558/
RU: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1401559/
NU: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1401560/
Ubers: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1401561/
LC: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1401563/
DW OU: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1401564/
DW Ubers: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1401565/
CAP: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1401566/
Hackmons: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1401567/
Balanced Hackmons: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1401568/
Glitchmons: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1401569/
OU Suspect Test: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1401570/
UU Suspect Test: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1401776/
Ubers Suspect Test: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1401777/


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| 25 | Latias | 5097 | 7.063% | 3941 | 6.848% |
| 27 | Latios | 4204 | 5.826% | 3239 | 5.628% |
| 33 | Arceus-Steel | 2893 | 4.009% | 2300 | 3.996% |

What

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Why are these Pokemon still so low >_>

Well okay, maybe Arceus is because of species clause but Latias still barely made Top 25 and Latios is 27

| 37 | Espeon | 2284 | 3.165% | 1763 | 3.063% |
| 60 | Xatu | 1117 | 1.548% | 863 | 1.500% |

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Once again, Antar, thank you for these wonderful usage stats! That being said...

| 1 | Genesect | 183712 | 20.689% | 155200 | 21.652% |

He really enjoyed his final month in OU...

| 26 | Skarmory | 62975 | 7.092% | 53645 | 7.484% |
| 27 | Blissey | 62021 | 6.985% | 48770 | 6.804% |

Interesting to see these two are right next to each other

| 39 | Landorus | 50447 | 5.681% | 39079 | 5.452% |
| 40 | Keldeo | 50184 | 5.652% | 38666 | 5.394% |

I gotta fix this. It looks as though Keldeo and Landorus are being underestimated. They need a lot more love.

| 45 | Kyurem-Black | 44884 | 5.055% | 34117 | 4.760% |

Doing good so far...Hail does need a lot more usage though

| 55 | Hippowdon | 31978 | 3.601% | 28649 | 3.997% |
| 56 | Ninjask | 29912 | 3.369% | 27046 | 3.773% |
| 57 | Abomasnow | 25809 | 2.907% | 23152 | 3.230% |

These three need more usage!

| 54 | Chansey | 34380 | 3.872% | 27563 | 3.845% |

Stop using this thing please. Chansey is the worst Pokemon in OU. Sure, it has the bulk of god himself, but its offensive presence is zero. It has recovery, but is worn down easily by status, sand, and hail since it loses Lefovers recovery. It also is free setup fodder for Scizor and Garchomp, depending on which status move it is holding, because it is powerless. It's terrible. Please stop using it. At least Blissey has enough Special Attack to do moderate damage.

| 1 | Heracross | 5268 | 21.930% | 4121 | 20.701% |

Still king, are ya?

| 15 | Mienshao | 2565 | 10.678% | 2122 | 10.659% |

Needs more Mienshao. Must get more usage.

| 19 | Ambipom | 2404 | 10.007% | 2142 | 10.760% |

Sigh....When are people going to realize that Ambipom is bad?

| 41 | Bisharp | 1447 | 6.024% | 1168 | 5.867% |

LET'S GO BISHARP! Glad to see this guy getting more love!

| 1 | Nidoqueen | 12845 | 20.818% | 10879 | 21.422% |

Finally. Nidoqueen is at the spot it deserves. It was the only one deservant of the mighty first spot!

| 12 | Cresselia | 6550 | 10.616% | 5309 | 10.454% |

Too dominant in the tier. Hopes.For.Cress.To.Be.Banned

| 44 | Durant | 3745 | 6.070% | 2857 | 5.626% |

This ant seems to be fitting into RU nicely. It's very strong

| 54 | Cinccino | 2649 | 4.293% | 2231 | 4.393% |

Nice to see this guy getting more love in RU.

| 59 | Primeape | 2339 | 3.791% | 1945 | 3.830% |

Please stop using this thing.
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Thing's i think are going to rise in ou now genesect is gone

The lati
Dragonite
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^Also Weavile, Mew and Scrafty.

1 | Genesect | 183712 | 20.689% | 155200 | 21.652%
THIS RETARDED PIECE OF SHIT IS GONE WOO HOO
16 | Salamence | 87828 | 9.891% | 66981 | 9.344% |
This thing needs to be in top 10
29 | Tornadus-Therian | 60712 | 6.837% | 47474 | 6.623%
what
| 45 | Kyurem-Black | 44884 | 5.055% | 34117 | 4.760% |
Not only this thing isn't too powerful for ou but it's pretty close to dropping
| 52 | Celebi | 35627 | 4.012% | 28487 | 3.974% |
This thing will surely skyrocket now that Genesect is gone.
| 56 | Ninjask | 29912 | 3.369% | 27046 | 3.773% |
This thing doesn't deserve 1% usage and it's at 3.36%. What the hell.
66 | Weavile | 18691 | 2.105% | 14732 | 2.055% |
Slowly but surely this thing is rising in usage.
| 72 | Charizard | 16757 | 1.887% | 13471 | 1.879% |
| 73 | Swampert | 16624 | 1.872% | 14192 | 1.980% |
The fact that a piece of shit is above something decent annoys me
| 88 | Electivire | 10895 | 1.227% | 8811 | 1.229% |
| 89 | Wobbuffet | 10847 | 1.222% | 9023 | 1.259% |
lol what

as for UU how is Tornadus #50? and meloetta needs to drop.
Another thing that annoys me is that ambipom is so high in the UU environment but it's a piece of crap that needs to gtfo and become RU
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^Also Weavile, Mew and Scrafty.

1 | Genesect | 183712 | 20.689% | 155200 | 21.652%
THIS RETARDED PIECE OF SHIT IS GONE WOO HOO
16 | Salamence | 87828 | 9.891% | 66981 | 9.344% |
This thing needs to be in top 10
29 | Tornadus-Therian | 60712 | 6.837% | 47474 | 6.623%
what
| 45 | Kyurem-Black | 44884 | 5.055% | 34117 | 4.760% |
Not only this thing isn't too powerful for ou but it's pretty close to dropping
| 52 | Celebi | 35627 | 4.012% | 28487 | 3.974% |
This thing will surely skyrocket now that Genesect is gone.
| 56 | Ninjask | 29912 | 3.369% | 27046 | 3.773% |
This thing doesn't deserve 1% usage and it's at 3.36%. What the hell.
66 | Weavile | 18691 | 2.105% | 14732 | 2.055% |
Slowly but surely this thing is rising in usage.
| 72 | Charizard | 16757 | 1.887% | 13471 | 1.879% |
| 73 | Swampert | 16624 | 1.872% | 14192 | 1.980% |
The fact that a piece of shit is above something decent annoys me
| 88 | Electivire | 10895 | 1.227% | 8811 | 1.229% |
| 89 | Wobbuffet | 10847 | 1.222% | 9023 | 1.259% |
lol what
i'd agree with mew but scrafty and weavile suck in ou with or with out genesect and dropped as a result.
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Aww, Cinccino and Absol in RU range... As if NU hadn't lost too many mons already :( At least we will get Roselia and... Stoutland? I'm wondering if he could do something good outside Sandstorm :/
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^Also Weavile, Mew and Scrafty.

1 | Genesect | 183712 | 20.689% | 155200 | 21.652%
THIS RETARDED PIECE OF SHIT IS GONE WOO HOO
OH YEAH! Anyways, good riddance to Genesect. It was ridiculously overpowered and made some things completely unviable in OU.
16 | Salamence | 87828 | 9.891% | 66981 | 9.344% |
This thing needs to be in top 10
For a Pokemon who is simply amazing in OU, this is decent, especially because I see it all the time. It certainly does need a Top 10 Spot though, I agree.
29 | Tornadus-Therian | 60712 | 6.837% | 47474 | 6.623%
what
Shitty ladder is shitty ladder. Apparently, people just tend not to use this thing because they often overlook good Pokemon like this and Keldeo and stuff.
| 45 | Kyurem-Black | 44884 | 5.055% | 34117 | 4.760% |
Not only this thing isn't too powerful for ou but it's pretty close to dropping
Lol Yeah...As I predicted. Kyurem-B is pretty alright in OU. The only good set available is a mixed set in hail, and...that's all.
| 52 | Celebi | 35627 | 4.012% | 28487 | 3.974% |
This thing will surely skyrocket now that Genesect is gone.
It sure will, and I'll be glad it isn't falling to UU anytime soon.
| 56 | Ninjask | 29912 | 3.369% | 27046 | 3.773% |
This thing doesn't deserve 1% usage and it's at 3.36%. What the hell.
You don't understand. Ninjask is an excellent Pokemon in OU. It has amazing Baton Pass capabilities, and it can just grab many Speed Boosts, and Baton Pass them to much more. With new receivers of the boosts and a good supporter in Espeon, Ninjask has gotten better. Its capabilities can make or break a game. You're underestimating Ninjask's potential in OU. It's a very good Pokemon.
66 | Weavile | 18691 | 2.105% | 14732 | 2.055% |
Slowly but surely this thing is rising in usage.
Weavile has one less thing to worry about now. :). Weavile is like, one hell of an awesome revenge killer. Spooks Psychics and Ghosts, and wrecks Dragons with Ice Shard. Its amazing.
| 72 | Charizard | 16757 | 1.887% | 13471 | 1.879% |
| 73 | Swampert | 16624 | 1.872% | 14192 | 1.980% |
The fact that a piece of shit is above something decent annoys me
Some newer players look at Charizard and scream "OMG It Has Solar Power! Must Be Good!" which leads them into using it. That said, the fact that it exceeds good mons like Scrafty, Zapdos, and Mienshao in usage is beyond me.
| 88 | Electivire | 10895 | 1.227% | 8811 | 1.229% |
| 89 | Wobbuffet | 10847 | 1.222% | 9023 | 1.259% |
lol what
Shitty ladder kids look at E-Vire and say "E-Vire is an amazing Pokemon. It hits 13 of the 17 types super effectively!" This ladder is outrageous.

as for UU how is Tornadus #50? and meloetta needs to drop.
Another thing that annoys me is that ambipom is so high in the UU environment but it's a piece of crap that needs to gtfo and become RU
Lol. Meloetta falling to RU would be well deserved. With Azelf and Mew around I reallt would never use Meloetta. And I must agree Tornadus in underrated. Also, Ambipom deserves NU.
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i'd agree with mew but scrafty and weavile suck in ou with or with out genesect and dropped as a result.
Weavile and Scrafty do not suck in OU. Weavile is a great revenge killer, and with its STABs, it can haunt Ghost and Psychic-types with Pursuit/Night Slash, and make Dragons shiver at Ice Shard/Ice Punch. Low Kick is good too. Weavile is great in OU. And Scrafty...Just get a DD Boost, and one you grab that KO you can get rollin'. So don't go around saying they suck because they don't.

Also, one more thing.

| 93 | Stoutland | 10525 | 1.185% | 7910 | 1.104% |

Come on now! This dog is Fanfuckingtastic, yet is barely gets above 1% usage. Do you guys not realize how good Stoutland is? In sand it's a great revenge killer, and with a CB it can clean teams! Come on, why so low?

| 116 | Fraxure | 283 | 0.459% | 208 | 0.410% |

Sigh...No one realizes this thing's potential in RU.
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| 1 | Heracross | 5268 | 21.930% | 4121 | 20.701% |
This thing deserves BL
| 6 | Snorlax | 3513 | 14.624% | 2870 | 14.417% |
snorlax is overrated. yes he has great special bulk but the only set that works for me is CB
| 17 | Gligar | 2521 | 10.495% | 2211 | 11.106% |
how is this thing so common? OK it's not as bad as Dusclops but still it has no offensive presence
| 19 | Ambipom | 2404 | 10.007% | 2142 | 10.760% |
This thing deserves place #386 in UU. rock, steel and ghost-types wall this retarded copy of mienshao ALL DAY. it does absolutely nothing to help your team. STOP USING AMBIPOM!!!!!
| 20 | Umbreon | 2354 | 9.799% | 1925 | 9.670% |
this thing is meh. It's setup fodder for too many things and alomomola outclasses it as a wishpasser

| 27 | Milotic | 1990 | 8.284% | 1642 | 8.248% |
Milo needs to drop a little, but not to become RU
| 34 | Weavile | 1724 | 7.177% | 1362 | 6.842% |
Weavile needs to rise a bit, since he has such a good SD set
| 38 | Machamp | 1530 | 6.369% | 1280 | 6.430% |
lol this is OU worthy, how is he so low?
| 45 | Suicune | 1343 | 5.591% | 1120 | 5.626% |
This thing needs to exit UU
| 49 | Dusclops | 1242 | 5.170% | 1062 | 5.335% |
It's even worse than ambipom. STOP USING DUSCLOPS.
| 50 | Tornadus | 1172 | 4.879% | 991 | 4.978% |
He needs to be higher, nothing likes taking LO hurricanes...
| 51 | Meloetta | 1159 | 4.825% | 940 | 4.722% |
Drop to RU.
| 55 | Sharpedo | 897 | 3.734% | 710 | 3.567% |
People need to use this more, its physical set is awesome
| 106 | Feraligatr | 184 | 0.766% | 143 | 0.718% |
Why so low?

My thoughts on uber:

| 15 | Blaziken | 9175 | 12.715% | 7206 | 12.521% |
lol what. Kyogre and extremekiller arceus tear it apart
| 19 | Deoxys-Speed | 8575 | 11.883% | 8118 | 14.106% |
This thing needs to be higher, it will always get SR or a layer of spikes up
| 22 | Giratina-Origin | 6768 | 9.379% | 5371 | 9.333% |
Lower than giratina-a? hahahahahahaha
| 37 | Espeon | 2284 | 3.165% | 1763 | 3.063% |
lol what
| 72 | Shedinja | 770 | 1.067% | 580 | 1.008% |
This thing is higher than lucario. what the hell.
| 79 | Charizard | 660 | 0.915% | 570 | 0.990% |
This fucking retarded piece of shit that sucks so much gets 1%. STOP USING CHARIZARD FOR GOD'S SAKE
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| 1 | Genesect | 183712 | 20.689% | 155200 | 21.652% |
Thank goodness this abomination is gone from OU.

| 40 | Keldeo | 50184 | 5.652% | 38666 | 5.394% |
Are you serious? Keldeo is not that bad, you guys. In fact, think of it as the Special Attack version of the mighty Terrakion. Add Rain and then...

| 47 | Haxorus | 41256 | 4.646% | 31430 | 4.385% |
| 48 | Dugtrio | 40394 | 4.549% | 31941 | 4.456% |
...so this can theoretically show the damages Genesect caused while in OU. Utter madness.

UU
| 33 | Empoleon | 1732 | 7.210% | 1535 | 7.711% |
Obviously the usage of Heracross is taking its toll on Empoleon's usage, as if its underrated potential was not enough; people I think should still use it. It is a LOT better than in theory. It irks me more that Milotic got a huge jump in usage this month. I need some people to use this thing...

| 40 | Zoroark | 1485 | 6.182% | 684 | 3.436% |
A 13 spot jump for the dark fox. Glad that some people are now using its elusiveness to their advantage. Still curious on why real-usage is so low. : /

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| 54 | Mismagius | 938 | 3.905% | 781 | 3.923% |
| 55 | Sharpedo | 897 | 3.734% | 710 | 3.567% |
| 56 | Houndoom | 886 | 3.688% | 724 | 3.637% |

oh god yes, houndoom, sharp, and mismagius RU would be fun as hell imo, and i think that none of them would really be overpowering in the tier except maybe sharpedo, but hes been RU before so we know how to deal with him ;).

| 17 | Dusknoir | 6315 | 10.235% | 5347 | 10.529% |

Okay, so he dropped a bit, still wayyyyyy to high though, guys, im seriously wondering what the point of using this over like any other ghost allowed in RU is, lol. Misdreavus does the same thing but better and hits harder thanks to a better STAB, Spiritomb is a good revenge killer and is the best option to spinblock cryogonal, and Rotom is the best option to take out kabutops, why would you use dumb old dusknoir? haha


| 51 | Absol | 2917 | 4.728% | 2135 | 4.204% |
| 53 | Klinklang | 2729 | 4.423% | 2104 | 4.143% |
| 61 | Amoonguss | 1722 | 2.791% | 1416 | 2.788% |
| 62 | Emboar | 1554 | 2.519% | 1238 | 2.438% |
| 65 | Jynx | 1484 | 2.405% | 1156 | 2.276% |
| 66 | Golurk | 1447 | 2.345% | 1229 | 2.420% |
| 67 | Pinsir | 1431 | 2.319% | 1038 | 2.044% |
| 68 | Miltank | 1284 | 2.081% | 1050 | 2.068% |
| 69 | Misdreavus | 1120 | 1.815% | 961 | 1.892% |
| 70 | Seismitoad | 1073 | 1.739% | 950 | 1.871% |
| 73 | Tauros | 827 | 1.340% | 608 | 1.197% |
| 74 | Ludicolo | 817 | 1.324% | 659 | 1.298% |
| 76 | Zangoose | 800 | 1.297% | 579 | 1.140% |
| 77 | Braviary | 786 | 1.274% | 651 | 1.282% |
| 80 | Drifblim | 659 | 1.068% | 548 | 1.079% |
| 81 | Swellow | 654 | 1.060% | 515 | 1.014% |
| 82 | Ditto | 628 | 1.018% | 525 | 1.034% |
| 84 | Sawsbuck | 594 | 0.963% | 436 | 0.859% |
| 86 | Eelektross | 560 | 0.908% | 485 | 0.955% |
| 90 | Regirock | 526 | 0.853% | 472 | 0.929% |
| 94 | Samurott | 465 | 0.754% | 373 | 0.734% |
| 96 | Carracosta | 458 | 0.742% | 374 | 0.736% |
| 102 | Lickilicky | 389 | 0.630% | 333 | 0.656% |
| 116 | Fraxure | 283 | 0.459% | 208 | 0.410% |

All of these Pokemon deserve more usage in RU, they are really good Pokemon at the moment, and although not all particularly have to move up to RU immediately, i feel that they should be at least be recognized as being the threats they are. If your bored one day and need something fun to try, maybe take one of these Pokemon for a spin? They probably wont disappoint you :).

Anyways, thanks for the stats antar!
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Old Dec 1st, 2012, 10:27:00 AM   #19
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Thank you Antar for the stats!

If it weren't for school, I would do my best to get Mandibuzz up to UU. >_< Maybe over December break I can put something together.

I remember last month people were complaining about Cloyster being too high in usage and it jumped up a spot from 20 to 19.

With Haxorus usage so low, if it drops down to UU the tier change after next (April 2013), I will have to hang up my OU threads. With Genesect gone, that shouldn't happen though.
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Dusknoir is okay. his SubPunch set is awesome, and it works even in OU.
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Old Dec 1st, 2012, 10:33:46 AM   #21
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although gligar makes a pretty good physical wall, the main reson for its usage is 1 word
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I'm surprised infernape is rising in usage and also I NEVER see salamence and it's #16?

Though Abomasnow is down to UU again, oh boy.
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Old Dec 1st, 2012, 10:54:09 AM   #23
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| 49 | Dusclops | 1242 | 5.170% | 1062 | 5.335% |
| 50 | Tornadus | 1172 | 4.879% | 991 | 4.978% |

The F*ck?Tornadus Is a amazing pokemon with many positive traits and can switch in on the #1 UU poke and makes it cry.Tornadus can make or break games it is a amazing pokemon in UU,I am not saying It should be #1 but this thing is at least worthy of top 10 and to see it under such a uttery atrocious pokemon like dusclops shows how idiotic the UU ladder along with Ambipoms stupidly high usage,Crobat and AGIAN TORNADUS are amazing in UU and with all of the fighting types that make those two anti meta.Please use these spleneded pokemon in UU more and #DusclopsForNU.Other than that F*CK YES GENE GOT BANNED !
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charizard in ubers:
| Charizard | +----------------------------------------+ | Abilties | | Blaze 71.515% | | Solar Power 28.485% | +----------------------------------------+
I am dying of laughter.
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Old Dec 1st, 2012, 11:07:15 AM   #25
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Abomasnow in UU would be interesting, but it really belongs in BL, IMO. Also, I'm glad Milotic is getting the love she deserves. :)
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