Aqua Ring

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Aqua Ring

We will be voting through the following five slates in order. The first two are IRV; the following three are Bold Vote.

[box]How much hp should aqua ring heal?
keep it how it is
around 16-20
24[/box]

[box]What duration/heal combination should aqua ring use?
IF the vote comes out 16-20:
4 dpa, 4 actions
4 dpa, 5 actions
3 dpa, 6 actions
2 dpa, 9 actions

IF the previous vote comes out to 24:
4 dpa, 6 actions
3 dpa, 8 actions
2 dpa, 12 actions[/box]

[box]Should Aqua Ring prevent and heal burns while active?
No
Yes[/box]

[box]Should Aqua Ring count as a healing move?
No
Yes[/box]

[box]Should aqua ring's hp restoration numbers be mirrored in Ingrain?
No
Yes[/box]



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So the question of the day is,
[box]How much hp should aqua ring heal?
Keep it how it is
Around 16-20
24[/box]
 
24
Around 16-20
Keep it how it is

The fact that you don't benefit from the healing instantly unlike with Recover means, in order to be worth it, the move has to either cost much less energy or heal more in total than Recover. The energy cost of Aqua Ring is only 3 less than a 100 HP mon using Recover - not really worth waiting several actions to get the same benefit.
 
Objection said:
24
Around 16-20
Keep it how it is

The fact that you don't benefit from the healing instantly unlike with Recover means, in order to be worth it, the move has to either cost much less energy or heal more in total than Recover. The energy cost of Aqua Ring is only 3 less than a 100 HP mon using Recover - not really worth waiting several actions to get the same benefit.
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Voting from a phone, this applies to me as well. Same vote order and all.
 
ok, part two time:

engineer pointed out that the next three parts really have minimal effect on each other, so we're holding the next three votes simultaneously

[box]What duration/heal combination should aqua ring use?
4 dpa, 6 actions
3 dpa, 8 actions
2 dpa, 12 actions[/box]

[box]Should Aqua Ring prevent and heal burns while active?
No
Yes[/box]

[box]Should Aqua Ring count as a healing move?
No
Yes[/box]

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In order, for me:

What duration/heal combination should aqua ring use?
4dpa, 6 actions
3dpa, 9 actions
2dpa, 12 actions

Should Aqua Ring prevent and heal burns while active?
No

Should Aqua Ring count as a healing move?
Yes

The first two choices are fairly straightforward. I think that 6 actions is a good duration for Aqua Ring, as anything else makes it virtually permanent. I refuse to add more bullshit effects to AR (and i really don't like them on any move), especially now that it's good. As for the healing move vote—i think giving 24 hp back to yourself for 9 en is too good to be infinite
 
What duration/heal combination should aqua ring use?
4dpa, 6 actions
3dpa, 9 actions
2dpa, 12 actions

Should Aqua Ring prevent and heal burns while active?
Yes

Should Aqua Ring count as a healing move?
Yes


 
What duration/heal combination should aqua ring use?

4dpa, 6 actions
3dpa, 9 actions
2dpa, 12 actions

We're trying to make the move viable for your average user - for that we want a higher amount of HP restored. Just my thoughts on the matter.

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Should Aqua Ring prevent and heal burns while active?
No.

The advantage of Ingrain is that you can't be switched out - the advantage of Aqua Ring is that you can. Odd, but true. Also means there's no justification to burn healing.

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Should Aqua Ring count as a healing move?
No

The lack of reliability in Aqua Ring's healing is what makes me vote no - it's like a very large leftovers, not a one shot boost.
 
What duration/heal combination should aqua ring use?
4dpa, 6 actions
3dpa, 9 actions
2dpa, 12 actions

More than 6 actions seems a bit silly to me.

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Should Aqua Ring prevent and heal burns while active?
No.

I don't see why it should

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Should Aqua Ring count as a healing move?
No

What Dogfish said.
 
What duration/heal combination should aqua ring use?
4 dpa, 6 actions
3 dpa, 8 actions
2 dpa, 12 actions

Should Aqua Ring prevent and heal burns while active?
No

Should Aqua Ring count as a healing move?
No
 
What duration/heal combination should aqua ring use?
4dpa, 6 actions
3dpa, 9 actions
2dpa, 12 actions

Should Aqua Ring prevent and heal burns while active?
No

Should Aqua Ring count as a healing move?
Yes

On a similar note, we need to have a list of what does and doesn't count as a healing move.
 
What duration/heal combination should aqua ring use?
4dpa, 6 actions
3dpa, 9 actions
2dpa, 12 actions

Should Aqua Ring prevent and heal burns while active?
No

Should Aqua Ring count as a healing move?
Yes

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also this is three votes not four ?_?
 
The only undecided one apparently.

Should Aqua Ring count as a healing move?
Yes

I had been planning to say no to this, but 6 actions is remarkably short in relative terms and I think that the lessened duration justifies it being classified as a recovery move.
 
By my count, that's majority on all three votes:
  • 4 dpa, 6 actions
  • No to burn healing
  • Yes to counting as a healing move

Only one thing left to decide:
[box]Should aqua ring's hp restoration numbers be mirrored in Ingrain?
No
Yes[/box]
 
Should aqua ring's hp restoration numbers be mirrored in Ingrain?
Yes

Can we make Ingrain a recovery move while we are at it? Meh...
 
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