With all the discussion about which Pokemon should be unbanned, I decided I should take a crack at framing the debate how I feel it ought to be discussed.
The question shouldn't be "Is this Pokemon OK to unban?", because that presumes it's uber. Rather, the question should be "Which Pokemon are uber?". This sounds both obvious and identical to the first question, but the way you frame the question has a huge impact.
When I say I feel everything should be tested, people often respond with "Oh, what about Mewtwo / Rayquaza / Deoxys-A / Geodude?". My answer to that is still yes. Things often play out differently in theory than in reality. However, that doesn't mean we still need to test it. There's this tier called the uber tier. It has all the Pokemon allowed in it. This can be seen as testing Pokemon.
The following is a list of the Pokemon I feel are necessarily uber.
Rayquaza
Deoxys-A
Deoxys-M (for Mediocre, it's the weaker version of Deoxys-A, sometimes just called Deoxys)
Latios
Latias
Groudon
Mewtwo
If you'll notice, most of the Pokemon here are offensive. I feel it's best to have the first round of bans offensive (because they are more obviously unbalanced). However, with such heavy-hitters gone, the following Pokemon are too difficult to take down.
Giratina
That leaves the following Pokemon that are currently marked as uber:
Manaphy
Mew
Ho-oh
Palkia
Dialga
Darkrai
Deoxys-D
Kyogre
Wobbuffet
Lugia
Now, I have my suspicions that Lugia, Mew, and Palkia would also turn out to be uber for sure. However, I haven't found them to be too overpowering in the current uber environment.
The proper way to go about this is to decide on all the Pokemon that are necessarily uber, and allow the rest all at once. You cannot get an accurate depiction of how they will work any other way. If the ultimate game might include X, Y, and Z Pokemon, and you allow them one at a time, that's not an accurate portrayal of how they will actually work.
The question shouldn't be "Is this Pokemon OK to unban?", because that presumes it's uber. Rather, the question should be "Which Pokemon are uber?". This sounds both obvious and identical to the first question, but the way you frame the question has a huge impact.
When I say I feel everything should be tested, people often respond with "Oh, what about Mewtwo / Rayquaza / Deoxys-A / Geodude?". My answer to that is still yes. Things often play out differently in theory than in reality. However, that doesn't mean we still need to test it. There's this tier called the uber tier. It has all the Pokemon allowed in it. This can be seen as testing Pokemon.
The following is a list of the Pokemon I feel are necessarily uber.
Rayquaza
Deoxys-A
Deoxys-M (for Mediocre, it's the weaker version of Deoxys-A, sometimes just called Deoxys)
Latios
Latias
Groudon
Mewtwo
If you'll notice, most of the Pokemon here are offensive. I feel it's best to have the first round of bans offensive (because they are more obviously unbalanced). However, with such heavy-hitters gone, the following Pokemon are too difficult to take down.
Giratina
That leaves the following Pokemon that are currently marked as uber:
Manaphy
Mew
Ho-oh
Palkia
Dialga
Darkrai
Deoxys-D
Kyogre
Wobbuffet
Lugia
Now, I have my suspicions that Lugia, Mew, and Palkia would also turn out to be uber for sure. However, I haven't found them to be too overpowering in the current uber environment.
The proper way to go about this is to decide on all the Pokemon that are necessarily uber, and allow the rest all at once. You cannot get an accurate depiction of how they will work any other way. If the ultimate game might include X, Y, and Z Pokemon, and you allow them one at a time, that's not an accurate portrayal of how they will actually work.
