I am sure many of you have played the counter game; in fact I doubt any people who have not have clicked on this thread. It is a fun game but the rules have been a bit uncertain, and some changes implemented by most players have been ignored by a few. This thread is to clear up the confusion, and discuss the exact rules.
Rule 1:
No ubers:
It does not say in the first post that you can not use ubers, however most players have assumed this.
Rule 2:
No hacks:
It does not say in the first post that you can not use hacks, however most players have assumed this.
Rule 3:
No shedninja:
This is the most controversial rule so far, but it has been agreed on by most people. I will give some arguments for and against banning it:
Against: it is allowed in normal OU, why can’t I use it here?
You just don’t want me to beat you.
For: in normal OU you have 6 Pokémon and you only need one of those Pokémon to have one move to hurt shedninja and it virtually useless. Here you have one Pokémon with 4 moves and you need most of the moveslots to beat the pokemon you are countering and some of the things that might beat you. shedninja over centrilses this metagame and counters around 70-80% of Pokémon posted, it is also easy to beat tyranitar beats it just by switching in as does abomnasnow and hippwodon, it takes no imagination to think of or use.
I could use it too; I just find it cheap and boring.
Rule 4
Pokémon that rely on focus sash to counter should be banned:
I’m not sure about this one, on one hand they do beat the Pokémon but on the other hand a normal counter has to switch in multiple times. No-one would say sash luvdisk can counter rhyperior in a normal game, but it works here. I kinda like it as it allows some NUs into the game but some people find it cheap.
Rule 5:
Ban hax items:
I think stuff like focus band and brightpowder should be banned, not that they get much use but someone could say their
swampert@focus band
No evs
Hydro pump
Is not countered by someone elses
azelf@C specs
252 sp. Attack/speed
Energy ball
As I may survive your energy ball and 2ko you with hydro pump.
This makes no sense as the chance of it surviving is extremely low.
The other issues I said in the thread I will write up later, we can discuss these for now.
oh and dont flame here, if you cant explain your arguement well dont say it atall.
Rule 1:
No ubers:
It does not say in the first post that you can not use ubers, however most players have assumed this.
Rule 2:
No hacks:
It does not say in the first post that you can not use hacks, however most players have assumed this.
Rule 3:
No shedninja:
This is the most controversial rule so far, but it has been agreed on by most people. I will give some arguments for and against banning it:
Against: it is allowed in normal OU, why can’t I use it here?
You just don’t want me to beat you.
For: in normal OU you have 6 Pokémon and you only need one of those Pokémon to have one move to hurt shedninja and it virtually useless. Here you have one Pokémon with 4 moves and you need most of the moveslots to beat the pokemon you are countering and some of the things that might beat you. shedninja over centrilses this metagame and counters around 70-80% of Pokémon posted, it is also easy to beat tyranitar beats it just by switching in as does abomnasnow and hippwodon, it takes no imagination to think of or use.
I could use it too; I just find it cheap and boring.
Rule 4
Pokémon that rely on focus sash to counter should be banned:
I’m not sure about this one, on one hand they do beat the Pokémon but on the other hand a normal counter has to switch in multiple times. No-one would say sash luvdisk can counter rhyperior in a normal game, but it works here. I kinda like it as it allows some NUs into the game but some people find it cheap.
Rule 5:
Ban hax items:
I think stuff like focus band and brightpowder should be banned, not that they get much use but someone could say their
swampert@focus band
No evs
Hydro pump
Is not countered by someone elses
azelf@C specs
252 sp. Attack/speed
Energy ball
As I may survive your energy ball and 2ko you with hydro pump.
This makes no sense as the chance of it surviving is extremely low.
The other issues I said in the thread I will write up later, we can discuss these for now.
oh and dont flame here, if you cant explain your arguement well dont say it atall.
