just a very bad team

Yeah, it did not work very bad uptil now, but i'm not pleased with it :/
At first a short view over all 6 Pokemon







Snorlax (M) @ Choice Band
Ability: Thick Fat
EVs: 120 HP/252 Atk/136 Def
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Fire Punch
- Return
- Crunch
- Selfdestruct
Choice Band Snorlax is quite a nice lead, perhaps I should carry earthquake und pursuit instead of selfdestruct and fire punch to trap starting gengars, but i like this guy with selfdestruct but would like to have earthquake anywhere, because tar stalls this set almost perfect :/


Blissey (F) @ Life Orb
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 156 HP/252 Def/80 SAtk/22 SDef
Calm nature (+SDef, -Atk)
- Softboiled
- Thunderbolt
- Flamethrower
- Ice Beam
It's an offensive Blissey and it kann 2hko almost every physical Sweeper, but perhaps i should use HP[fight] to take care about Tyranitar. Anyways lo and Sandstorm is quite annoying espacially if the opponent uses Toxic Spikes, but with softboiled i were always able to handle with the damage.



Gliscor (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Veil
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 Spd
Impish nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Aerial Ace
- Stealth Rock
- Roost
counters hera and breloom, nothing special at this lol


Forretress (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 Spd
Impish nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Spikes
- Toxic Spikes
- Earthquake
- Rapid Spin
Just a nice guy in combination with gliscor and being allaround spiker and spinner i just love it.
perhaps I should use gyro ball to kill gengar, who comes in very often to block the spin


Starmie @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP/220 Spd/36 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Thunderbolt
- Recover
- Surf
- Ice Beam
Stops Nape and Gyara and with ice beam it also can do something against garchomp


Hippowdon (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 252 HP/252 Def/4 Spd
Impish nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Earthquake
- Ice Fang
- Roar
- Slack Off
Brings up the Sandstorm and is a quite nice Garchomp counter.


All in all I think Gyarados is one of the greatest threat to this team with vaporen getting to much damage of a dded earthquake. Also Infernape could make trouble when vapereon has not full hp. Perhaps i should try without wishsupport and replace Vaporen with something like cresselia, even this is still not a full counter to gyarados and i'll have a slot problem using it in the sandstorm :/

There's one thing I really don't like about this team. You have three pokemon that can absorb special hits better then most, but oh, wait. Two are weak to fighting. As a team like this, you've obviously got a huge MixApe weakness. Vaporeon is the only thing that stops it, but with residual damage, sandstorm, and a chance of a good damaging attack that'll get you on the switch in, you won't have fun going back and forth. I'd probably go Starmie over Vaporeon, seeing how it has a resist on HP Ice, Flamethrower, Close Combat, and it can outspeed and 1HKO and also provides you special attacks

I also see how LIFE ORB on Blissey is probably the worst idea ever. LIFE ORB. On Blissey. I've never seen those two words used together before... :(

wow, I didn't notice that. Oh my god. It's so counter productive, that it makes what Blissey does so well, stay alive, decrease in efficiency.

Castlevania said:

wow, I didn't notice that. Oh my god. It's so counter productive, that it makes what Blissey does so well, stay alive, decrease in efficiency.

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I agree. And you really don't have to worry about HP (Fighting) on Blissey for Tyranitar as she shouldn't take him on in a million years and due to the SS boost in Special Defence (and Life-Orb + Sandstorm) on Blissey, she's not going to survive long anyway

Mixnape is too big a weakness I think tentacruel or starmie or suicune could go over vaporeon and then give blissey wish.

Edit: Forget about Suicune because I think he also dies to grass knot from nape

I had no problems with Blisseys staying power so far, but i'll test it and if it doesn't work well, i'll change it
I think Starmie is the best choice to use instead of Vaporen. Should I use Spin on Starmie or on Forry? on forry its imo better, because Starmie needs all his slots. Perhaps I should use a more offensive Split, but i like it that way

Uh, Kinglerdude, Vaporeon is actually a pretty good mixape counter... it's not super heavy so IIRC it takes 60 BP from Grass Knot.

But Vaporeon gets 2HKOed by Close Combat in the sand.....