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Regirock @ Leftovers
Careful 252 Hp / 252 SpD / 4 Atk

~ Stone Edge
~ Stealth Rock
~ Earthquake
~ Ecksploshun

Heh, this has to be one of the best leads in UU post-ban. First we start analyzing common leads. Uxie, Mesprit, Swellow, Ambipom, Registeel, Moltres, LRCanine, Moltres-all beaten by Regirock here. Take this into perspective, if your Ambipom feels like taunting me, well it can assure itself it is going to eat a Stone Edge, and vice-versa for U Turn and Stealth Rock.

I chose Stone Edge over Rock Slide just so I can be more of an offensive threat. Ambipom can safely Taunt me and not take that much from the Rock Slide (113 power iirc compared to Earthquake's 100 and 100 acc...). Besides, lots of things just come in to take a weak Rock Slide repeatedly, while Stone Edge and SR deters them from constantly switching in. Explosion is the icing on the cake. More like an overused oh shit button. Regirock fits on my team very well-he gets SR up reliably, can hit hard, and he can definitely take a hit with those amazing defenses. Rock is also fantastic coverage wise in UU.

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Moltres @ Life Orb
Modest 252 SpA / 252 Spe / 4 Def

~ Fire Blast
~ HP Grass
~ Air Slash
~ Roost

Wow, if you ever thought Moltres lacked power you were dead wrong. This baby right here is so powerful. I picked Moltres for my team for quite a few reasons. First and foremost is the combination of power and bulk. 383 Special Attack is quite monstrous, combine that with his amazing type coverage and Roost (and his defenses aren't too shabby either) and you have one of the best UU Pokemon. Considering I needed a reliable switch-in to Steelix, Regirock, Roserade, etc Moltres was a perfect fit. I am really impressed with Moltres' performance.

Moltres is the first part of my Fire/Water/Grass core, a really good core that packs a shitload of power. Why choose him over something like Blaziken? To be honest, I find Roost helpful when dealing with his SR weak (nothing near a total fix). Plus, he doesn't need to Hp Grass as soon as slowbro comes in to win 1 on 1. Despite his massive 4x SR weak, he can usually not only play around that, but get a free switch in on most SR users and force them out/OHKO them.

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Azumarill @ Leftovers
Adamant 252 Hp / 252 Atk / 4 Def

~ Substitute
~ Waterfall
~ Aqua Jet
~ [Falcon Punch joke goes here]

Ahh yes, the beauty that is subpunch Azu. She packs so much power, and gives my team some much needed priority in Aqua Jet. Azumarill also fits my team perfectly, getting good synergy with Roserade and Moltres. Great type coverage really helps here. Provides me a much needed Mismagius check. He can Sub up on a ridiculous amount of threats, and proceed to fire off an attack off of 436 attack. Azumarill's defenses are really underrated-100/80/80 is better than Salamence (marginally), and sub makes full use of that. Many walls can't break Azu's sub.

Azumarill is the second part of my Fire/Water/Grass core. I chose Azumarill over, say, Milotic or Slowbro for the simple reason that half my team would be completely walled by Chansey, and Regirock is nothing vs stall. Again, there is no physical Chansey in UU, and most that are are 2HKOd my my Azu. Yes, there are things that wall this set (Venusaur, Altaria, Tangrowth, etc) but in general it hits extremely hard. Again, the priority really sealed the deal over a bulkier water.

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Roserade @ Choice Scarf
Modest 252 SpA / 176 Spe / 80 Hp

~ Sludge Bomb
~ Leaf Storm
~ Sleep Powder
~ Hidden Power Ice

I originally used a LO Roserade here (I found it in C&C, posted by HeYsUp, with a suck ass ev spread), but my team had no speed whatsoever. LonelyNess told me to slap a scarf on her and call it a day. I was really skeptical at first, but as with Absol LonelyNess' advice was really, really good. BADGE HIM NOW [/shameless plug]. HP Ice covers up an Altaria weakness, and explains why it's there. Really hurts offensive teams who can't outspeed this, because 383 SpA is nothing to scoff at.

I chose Roserade over other Grass types due to it being better, plain and simple. Tangrowth matches her offenses, and completely blows her in physical defense, but Tangrowth has no speed at all. Roserade hits 260 to beat +70s. Venusaur was also passed up due to Roserade having 45 more base special attack. That's a lot of special attack. Roserade can also absorb T Spikes, essentially giving me a free turn or two while they set it up.

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Hitmontop @ Leftovers
Adamant 252 Atk / 96 SpD / 156 Hp

~ Close Combat
~ Fake Out
~ Bullet Punch
~ Mach Punch

Yea, Technitop with Leftovers and lots of SpD. Mismagius give me trouble so I decided to add in a pokemon that can hit her hard, fast, and can take a hit from her-even at +1. Bullet Punch manages ~35% to Mismagius, a clean 3HKO with SR or after a Sub. Also check Rain Dance very well, esentially wasting one turn of rain every time (2 if against a slightly weakened Kabutops or Omastar). Close Combat 2HKOes those annoying Steelix, Regirock, and Registeel, which is really useful if my usual checks to those have been worn down/are dead. Mach Punch is there for a more powerful hit on pokemon that either resist Bullet Punch, or just get a more powerful hit on those that are neutral to both.

I chose Hitmontop over other fighters for a couple reasons. Firstly, I had 2 other choices: Hitmonlee and Hariyama. Lee is way too frail to take on a Missy, something I had problems with. Hariyama was also a good choice with Sub, massive HP, and Payback. In the end I chose Hitmontop because he can do two things that Hariyama can't a)check rain dance b)priority.

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Absol @ Life Orb
Jolly 252 Spe / 252 Atk / 4 Def

~ Swords Dance
~ Sucker Punch
~ Night Slash
~ Superpower

God damn, Honchkrow leaves and this bitch comes in. Absol is a monster, sporting that sexy base 130 attack and swords dance. This is my answer to stall. God I love this thing. Suggested to me by LonelyNess, we were debating Adamant over Jolly. We decided with Jolly to outspeed neutral 80s and the like, as well as Modest LOMilotic. Great all around coverage, even with the two types. I have nothing but praise.

Why Absol over, say, Toxicroak? First, you have STAB on a fantastic type in Dark. And then he gets a 120 BP move that performs superbly coverage wise with it. A fantastic attack score, "priority" with 80 bp, a reliable STAB, great ability, average speed, amazing stall breaking capabilities-the question is why NOT use Absol?



I SUGGEST IF YOU WANT TO RATE MY TEAM, AT LEAST PUT SOME EFFORT INTO IT!









 
Only thing I can think of mentioning is that if Life Orb is not guaranteeing any specific KOs or anything, Expert Belt could be awesome on Moltres for feigning a Choice Scarf. A lot of teams have ways to maneuver around Choiced Moltres but run into trouble vs ones that can switch attacks. If you can trick your opponent into thinking you're @scarf and they end up sending their Registeel in after you Air Slash, you can get the quick KO which can help open the door for Roserade and Altaria. (not that you have a Registeel problem but it applies in many situations)

The only other thing is that I don't so much like LO Moltres with no spin support or taunt lead because if you get double-switched on and your opponent sends out like Azumarril you pretty much just lost your Moltres cause of SR, but eh I suppose if you can predict well enough it shouldn't be a problem.

Very nice team overall though :)
 
I rocked this team roughly 80% of the time I played it, so I can give a couple suggestions.

The only thing that I don't like on your team is Altaria. It went down too quickly to even call it a contributor. I think that you should replace it with something extremely anti dance, because rain dance screws you completely, which I don't even have time to explain, not to mention that it's fairly obvious.

I suggest possibly switching your Altaria set even, a cleric set with Heal bell may benefit you 100% more than switching him.

Just a minor nitpick.
 
Thanks, Danyul! I will certainly try that. darkartisan...what is your shoddy alt? I have used the cleric Altaria-if you feel Altaria in general isn't good, I'd rather you suggest another pokemon altogether, as she never performs well.
 
You could try Ice Punch in azumarill instead of Waterfall, letting you to hit hard things like altaria (which could give this team trouble, specially if it is like your altaria). Your azumarill will give altaria a free DD, and that could mean game

Oh, and I suppose you wanted to say that altaria has 252 EVs in atk, not in sp atk
 
The first thing I see when I look at this team is a rather gaping Life Orb Milotic weakness. While it's having a bit of a tough time switching in, it can get in after a kill or on a Regirock Stealth Rock or even a weak Stone Edge (since you lack any offensive EVs) and from there it's pretty much gg. Your entire team is outsped so even if you switch correctly to take the hits, it's just going to stay in and switch to the appropriate attack... HP grass for Azumarill, Ice Beam for Roserade, etc... In fact your entire team is hit super effective by one of its attacks save for Hitmontop... and while TechTop is nice for some guaranteed damage, Milotic has the innate bulk to last through your Fake Out + Mach Punch and heal the damage off with Recover.

As a fix to this, I recommend scarfing your Roserade so that you can put some speed on the team. At least this way you can bait the Surf, bring in Roserade, and outspeed / OHKO with Leaf Storm. Scarfing Roserade also helps you with your slight Altaria weakness as now you can get rid of Synthesis and slap on Hidden Power Ice.

Oh and also your Max SpD Hitmontop is horribly inefficient EV wise. By using 156 HP / 252 Atk / 96 SpD, not only do you take special hits BETTER than you did before (by about 2% so if an attack would have done 100%, now you only take 98%) but you take 10% less damage from physical attacks as well... making this bulky from both ends of the damage spectrum.

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I'd like to see a Swords Dance Absol going over your Altaria. Now that you've scarfed your Roserade you have zero chance of breaking through a well built stall but with Swords Dance Absol you now have not only a more potent sweeper than Altaria, but a way of breaking through stall. Also you ought to play incredibly suicidally with him so that one of your other sweepers can "finish the job" so to speak. For example Azumarill has a hell of a lot easier of a time sweeping once Spiritomb / Luxray / Hitmontop is weakened and Absol has the ability to force them to kill rather than heal stall so they're going to be left with a minimal ammount of health after dealing with it, which should allow for one of your other sweepers to break them. I'd run the following set

Absol (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Night Slash
- Sucker Punch
- Superpower
- Swords Dance

I prefer Jolly to Adamant for the added benefit of outrunning the base 80 neutral crowd, as well as getting the jump on minimal speed Roserade. this ought to not only help out with your stall problem, but add a more potent sweeper to your team that Altaria just wasn't doing.

I hope these changes help!
 
I like Absol, and I like the speed on Scarf Rose, but Absol cant beat stall by itself. Slowbro can deal ~60% to me while i Slash or SD...Cnahsey and Milotic walls me without LO Rose...

LREDIT: Not worth a post, but why don't you just make Roserade Timid and keep LO? Right now your Moltres and Roserade are a tad slow with Modest, so making Roserade Timid will help out against opposing Roserade and Moltres, as well as offensive Milotic.

ASSEDIT: hmm, ScarfRose is working well, but who am I to turn down a suggestion from lr? i will definitely test that
 
Okay... Well you said you had a hard time with stall, and judging by your team I must agree. This is due to several things.
1) No spinner
2) If a stall team runs a bulky Hitmontop then your team is walled essentially by Chansey and insert dedicated physical wall w/ instant recovery that resists water.
3) You cant punish the stall players switches as Rapid Spin blocking is not even a possibilty

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I know you like Moltress, but If you are having trouble with stall, then Blaziken should at least be tested. You lack a Rapid Spinner and she is easily walled by Chansey and she is SO weak to SR that it can quickly become a liability. Attacking from both sides of the spectrum gives you the ability to potentially outpredict the stall player. As it stands your core cannot beat Chansey and say a Slowbro and will eventually be worn down. Blaziken can beat both.

The safest switch in to Blaziken is Altaria, which is why I would say consider ice punch over one of your water attacks on Azumarill to help your core better deal with common stall pokes in tandem with Blaziken. You CAN carry Stone Edge on Blaziken, but I'm not a fan of the accuracy.

This team is solid and there arent many things left to fix as far as I can tell. However, I really think Blaziken is the better fit for you on this team.

Good Job.
 
Good team, I'd suggest running Adamant over over Jolly on Absol for the extra power, and so mine outspeeds yours lol.

I agree with BurtonEarny about replacing Moltres with Blaziken. Without a spinner it becomes a dead weight, especially against stall. You could even run a scarfed Blaziken and change back Roserade to the original Life Orb set, if you feel it worked better than the scarf version.

Anyways, other than that, solid team.
 
>:( I played this team on the ladder and, remembering it pretty well from when I saw this thread, left my Swellow in on a presumably Life Orbed Roserade only to be KOed by Sludge bomb lol. Serves me right I guess. I like the additions, especially the Scarf on Roserade, as with Absol stall isn't really a problem anymore and you are right when you say it is hell for offensive teams/teams without Registeel. Only thing I can see being a bit of a problem is a well played fighting type. Actually now that I look at it the biggest problem is probably +Spd SD Toxicroak, which I suppose is not exactly the most prevalent threat but it's something to look out for. After an SD it pretty much outspeeds and KOs everything, along with being immune to Aqua Jet and not being KOed by anything from Roserade. Luckily though, Fake Out + Bullet Punch should put a pretty sizable dent in it, and it doesn't get too many opportunities to set up.

LO Milotic is also still pretty annoying and might even merit Timid on Moltres, as with Life Orb and HP grass you can probably take it out at ~65%. Roserade is a decent answer but it can't take too many Hydro Pumps and will fall to a predicted Ice Beam. Again though, you have so much priority and Roserade at least to revenge kill everything so it's hard for much to really sweep this team.

and just fyi Roserade only has 25 more base special attack points than Venusaur, not 45. Venusaur has base 100 special attack.
 
Augh, ScarfTom is public enemy #1. He flat out sweeps me with Regirock and Rose weakened. Any suggestions?
 
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