The Return Of Kong (OU)

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THE RETURN OF KONG


Introduction


Well I made this team not long ago and it has a 90+ percent win rate. It is the best team I have ever made. Its also the only hyper-offense team I ever made. Anyway now lets get onto the pokemon and my strategy. I decided to make an offense team that can simply destroy others into oblivion and so I realized that I need a team that requires a lot of prediction but if pulled of correctly it can devestate opposing teams. So I started thinking of what pokemon would be a good choice so I was looking at Serebii's Pokemon of the week I saw Slaking and I realized that slaking was an incredibly powerful pokemon but that it had one draw-back, Traunt. This meant that I would likely get one hit against opposing pokemon then switch out. That however was part of the risk for me so I decided that I would make him a choice poke because it will increase my damage with him and having to switch with traunt means that being stuck into a move wont really effect me. Now for the rest of the team. I looked to see what was common on offensive teams and three pokemon stood out from the crowd. SD Luke, Mixape and DD Mence and so in my team atleast one of my pokes can take them on.
At A Glance
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In-Depth

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Mamoswine @ Life Orb
Ability: Snow Cloak
Ev's: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Nature: Adamant
- Stealth Rock
- Ice Shard
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge

Well I struggled for a lead I was originally using aerodactyl but I decided on trying out a mamoswine lead for the first time and all I can say is, What a Lead. This thing destroys metagross leads with Life Orb my STAB Earthquake is a guranteed OHKO and almost all of the meta leads I have went against none have bullet punched me and must have been suprised when I outsped them. The only lead that can be annoying is an azelf lead however as they are immune to Earthquake so my only option against them is to Stone Edge then Ice Shard them to death. He is also my dragon killer if they have a dragon dance under their belt.

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Scizor @ Life Orb
Ability: Technician
Ev's: 32 HP / 252 Atk / 224 Spe
Nature: Adamant
- Swords Dance
- Bullet Punch
- Superpower
- Roost

Only two words come to mind when using this pokemon, Bloody Powerful. I come in on an opposing pokemon I know will switch out so I can swords dance on the switch. Bullet Punch is my main attack thanks to Life Orb, STAB, Technician and Life Orb it will be dealing a hefty amounts of damage to any opposing pokemon after a swords dance. Superpower is my counter for steels with 120 base power after a swords dance its just devestating though the attack and defense drop is irritating but still Superpower>Brick Break. Roost helps negate Life Orb recoil but I have never once used it so maybe another move would be better here. If I am honest scizor is probably the weak link in my team as he rarely contrbutes to the team in a battle.

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Infernape @ Life Orb
Ability: Blaze
Ev's: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Nature: Timid
- Nasty Plot
- Fire Blast
- Vacuum Wave
- Grass Knot

Well I used to run the more common special based mixpape until I discovered the power of a Nasty Plot Ape. I come in on anything I know will switch -because most people think I will be running the normal mixape set so most people will switch out- then I Nasty Plot on the switch. I know that the normal NP ape set has Close Combat as Infernapes Staple Fighting Attack but for this set I chose vacuum wave as it allows me to easily kill an SD Luke after a Nasty Plot. Vacuum Wave is actually my staple move on this set though after a Nasty Plot Fire Blast scores some needed OHKOs and grass knot can destroy common switch-ins like Suicune and Donphan after a boost. Infernape is what I use often early game to devstate as no one brings in a blissey on an infernape.

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Gyarados @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
Ev's:
252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Nature: Adamant
- Dragon Dance
- Waterfall
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge

In my opinion the best Dragon Dancer out there. He can take a hit unlike salamence thanks to his decent HP stat and Intimidate and he is much better than Dragonite too as he can actually wall common OU threats like infernape and he can also take on an SD Luke to some degree. I usually dragon dance on the switch and begin my sweep with waterfall though earthquake helps with coverage alonside stone edge which hits opposing gyarados and zapdos hard after a DD. I usually bring in gyara right after mamoswine and try to take out as many of the opponents pokemon as I can early on.

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Gengar @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
Ev's: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Nature: Timid
- Shadow Ball
- Thunderbolt
- Focus Blast
- Hidden Power Ice

Now for gengar my main special sweeper. Gengar takes the fighting attacks aimed at Slaking which in return takes the ghost attacks aimed at gengar. I gave gengar hidden power ice for the ability to hit dragons and ground types hard. As most of these pokemon will take more damage from the special side of the spectrum rather than the physical as most have a high defense stat. Focus blast lets me hit weavile and tyranitar switch-ins for 4x damage. Shadow ball is obvious as it gives gengar a good STAB attack and thanks to STAB, Life Orb and gengars high special stat it will be doing loads of damage to most pokemon. Thunderbolt lets me hit water types like suicune and slowbro both of which are common gyarados and infernape switch-ins. I use gengar mid and late game usually though it depends on the situation.

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Slaking @ Choice Band
Ability: Traunt
Ev's: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Nature: Adamant
- Return
- Thunderpunch
- Earthquake
- Pursuit

Now for the star of the team. With 160 base power slaking reaches 460 attack meaning he has the second highest attack stat of any non-uber pokemon and with the choice band then added on he reaches a mind blowing 690 attack. Now that, that's nothing to laugh at. Now onto the moves. STAB return coming from that attack will pretty much gurantees an OHKO or a 2HKO on every pokemonthat doesn resist it. Only three types either resist it or ar immune to it they are Steel, Rock and Ghost. Now common defensive steel types are skarmory and forretres now thunderpunch is super effective vs skarmory and earthquake is my best option against forretress. Now lets face it no rock type likes earthquake so they are covered (aero is covered by thunderpunch). Now ghost, well they dont like dark attacks and since most ghost types are frail they will likely run from this behemoth so pursuit really hurts them here. Also with a 100 base speed stat he outruns quite a few of the common pokemon in the OU metagame most notably Metagross and Lucario.

Threat List
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Scizor - Inefrnape cannot switch in but destroys it with Fire Blast and Gyarados can switch in on almost any attack and then dragon dance up and hit it with neutral waterfalls.

Salamence - Mamoswine destroys non Yache berry versions with Ice Shard and I can come in easily on a dragon dance.

Gyarados - Gengar outspeeds before a dragon dance and kills it with thunderbolt though it can be hard to switch in. Slaking can come in after a pokemon has been killed and kill it with Thunderpunch.

Heatran - Infernape can come in on Fire Blasts and Hurt it with Vacuum Wave whilst Gyarados has a feild day as it resists Fire Blast and can hit OHKO it with Earthquake.

Infernape - Gengar outspeeds and can OHKO with STAB Shadow Balls and Gyarados can switch in on those without thunderpunch and proceed to OHKO with STAB Waterfalls.

Metagross - Gyarados kills it with Earthquake and Infernape with Fire Blast.

Tyranitar - Slaking demolishes these with Earthquake and come in on pretty much anything as he can take a hit.

Swampert - Infernape can switch in easily it can only come in on Stone Edge or an ice attack but I can destroy iy with Grass Knot. Gyarados resists its STAb water attacks and is immune to its STAB ground attacks.

Blissey - Scizor.

Gengar - Scizor and Slaking can come in and destroy these with bullet punch and pusruit.

Lucario - Inefrnape comes in an Crunch or Swords Dance and destroys it with Vacuum Wave whilst Gengar comes in on anything thats not crunch and outspeeds and OHKO's with Focus Blast.

Latias - Scizor can cme in and hurt it badly with Bullet Punch and Mamosine can come in on thunderbolts.

Jirachi - Inefrnape outspeeds non-scarfed versions and can destroy them with fire Blast whilts Slaking comes in and kills it with Earthquake and Gyarados can come in on most of its attacks and hit with an earthquake too.

Azelf - Scizor can come in on any move thats not flamethrower and Bullet Punch whilst Slaking can come in and Pursuit it.

Starmie - My best bet is a thunderpunch from slaking otherwise this thing hurts though gengar cannot come in on an attack he can shadow ball it to death.

Zapdos - Infernape cant switch in but can kill it with boosted Fire Blast. Mamoswine can come in on thunerbolts and hit it with Stone Edge or Ice Shard.

Celebi - Gliscor is a great counter, and after being Taunted it can be set up on by Latias or taken out by Metagross or Rotom.

Bronzong - Rotom and Gliscor.

Skarmory - Gengar comes in on most attacks outspeeds and kills it with Thunerbolt whilst Infernape can come in on anything thats not a flying attack outspeed and OHKO with Fire Blast.

Vaporeon - Slaking comes in and Thunerpunches.

Breloom - I dislike sleep and but infernape can come in on grass attacks and proceed to kill with Fire Blast whilst gengar can come in on fighting attacks outspeed and destroy with HP Ice.

Gliscor - Gengar comes in on ground attacks and OHKOs with HP ice whilst Mamo doesnt mind most attacsk and hits it hard with Ice Shard.

Jolteon - Tyranitar and Latias, Gliscor for Specs Thunderbolt.

Flygon - Mamoswine comes in on most attacks if he is not weak and proceed to OHKO with Ice shard. Gengar can switch in on Earthquake and OHKO with HP Ice.

Machamp -Gengar comes in on fighting attacks and can only really hurt it with Shadow Ball. Gyarados comes in on most attacks and then waterfalls it to death.

Kingdra - My best bet is with slaking who outspeeds them when rain is down or when they dont have a dragon dance. Scizor can come in on Outrage and hit it with superpower.

Togekiss - Gengar switches in easily on aura sphere and does a number with thunderbolt and HP ice and mamosine can come in on any attack thats not aura sphere and hit back with Ice Shard.

Suicune - Thunderbolt from gengar hurts this thing and gyarados can switch in on crocune version or any version with out HP electric.

Weavile - Scizor and Infernape destroy it with their priority moves.

Magnezone - Infernape can destroy it with Vacuum Wave and Fire blast and Gengar with Focus Blast and mamoswine can come in on Choice Scarf versions stuck into Thunderbolt.

Hippowdon - Gengar beats it with HP Ice as most only know eathquake and Gyardos likes Stone Edge less versions.

Electivire - Mamoswine can come in on thunderpunches but dislikes Cross Chop. Scizor only fears its fire attacks. Thnakfully this things isnt very common.

Forretress - Infernape.

Mamoswine - Scizor can revenge kill it with bullet punch, Gengar can kill it with Focus Blast, Gyardos can kill with with waterfall though he fears stone edge and can only come in on ice shard and earthquake.

Dusknoir - Infernape doesnt mind this thing and can hurt it with boosted Fire Blasts and Gengar can come in on variants without Shadow Sneak.

Empoleon - Focus Blast and Thundernolt from Gengar and Vacuum Wave from Infernape (who can only switch in on ice beams and grass knots) destroys this thing.

Aerodactyl - Scizor bullet punches it to death.

Snorlax - Gengars (Though he fears Crunch) Focus Blast and Infernapes Vacuum Wave also Scizor comes in resists its STAB attacks and sets up

Heracross - Gyarados hurts it with Intimidate and can deal some damage with Waterfall while its resistant to heras STAB attacks.

Tentacruel - Thunderbolt from Gengar and Earthquake from Gyardos.

Dragonite - Ice Shard from Mamoswine can OHKO non Yache Berry Variants nad its outsped before a Dragon Dance from Gengar who OHKO's it with HP Ice.

Porygon-Z - Infernape with Vacuum wave, Scizor takes out with Bullet Punch.

Cresselia - Shadow Ball from gengar can 2HKO it and cress can only seriously hurt gengar with psychic.

Ninjask - Ice Shard and Bullet Punch Destroy this thing from Mamoswine and Scizor.

Dugtrio - Mamosine is not afraid of this thing and kills it with ice shard. Gengar can hit it with HP Ice though has to be wary of Sucker Punch but gengar can laos switch out on it.

Alakazam - Scizor is resistant to its STAB psychic attacks and can (I think) OHKO it with Bullet Punch.

Rhyperior - Well Gengar is immune to its STAB Earthquakes and hits it hard with Focus Blast and HP Ice though Infernape cant come in on this thing it can OHKO it with Grass Knot. Gyarados also hurts it with waterfall though it fears STAB Rock Attacks.

Umbreon - Again Gengar and Infernape with their fighting attacks.

Porygon2 - Gengar and Infernape sto it with Focus Blast and Vacuum Wave,

Yanmega - Its either ice sharded to death or Bullet punched to death from mamoswine and scizor.

Donphan - Infernape destroys it with grass knot and so does gengar with HP ice.

Team Building
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Well Is started out with Slaking as I was basing my team around him. So I decided I needed something to take his fighting attacks and I knew that I wanted an offensive team so I chose gengar as rotom formes dont work on Wifi. So my team then looked like this.

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I then wanted an Mixape counetr so I decided on something that can setup and sweep and is bulky enough to come in on mixpape and destroy it. At first I was thinking starmie but I chose Gyarados over it as it can set up. So Far I had.

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Then I wanted a powerful revenge killer so I knew that scizor would be a good choice so out came scizor. I was alos trying to find pokemon that gave me some good resistances and kept my weaknesses to a minimum.

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The I wanted something that can set up on the special side so I was running azelf and chose metagross as my lead so my team looked like this.

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Then that wasnt working out for me as it gave me to many weaknesses and not enough resistances. The same old metagross lead was starting to bore me and I was looking at some RMT when I though Mamo would be a good choice and so in came mamo. Then I was peaking to OMNs Skynet when he suggested an NP infernape over NP azelf so I decided to test it out and so here is the final product.

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Now please give me your thoughts an opinions. Also you may notice that slaking isnt featured much in the threat list thats because he can come in and destrou most pokes so I did not see any reason to continuoulsy list him. Also my threat list may be slightly off so any help would be appreciated.

 
If you have Thunderpunch on Slaking for Forretress and Skarmory, why not try to use Fire Punch instead? Then I'm sure you can work your way around those Aerodactyls.
 
I definitely give you props for using Slaking. I've always wanted to use a Slaking but never really had the guts. This team seems very solid but I have a few comments.

You have three set up sweepers which isn't too great against a good player with fast taunters. You should make Scizor the standard Choice Bander instead. He will support your team a lot better than your SD one.

Scizor (M) @ Choice Band
Trait: Technician
EVs: 248 HP / 252 Atk / 8 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Bullet Punch
- Pursuit
- Superpower
- U-turn


Next, your team would benefit more from having a MixApe rather than a Nasty Plotter, in my opinion. Nasty Plot Ape has never been that useful, in my opinion. Use Close Combat over Vacuum Wave and stick HP Ice in there, since otherwise you're screwed against a Salamence if Mamo dies.

Gyara is standard but I've always preferred the bulky version over what you're using. DD/Taunt/Waterfall/Stone Edge. Very good set, but do what you want there.

Slaking looks good. Again, props.
 
I just see a quick thing. On Mamoswine use ICe Shard/Earthquake/Endeavor/Stealth Rock

This allows you to take on any leads like Swampert and Azelf easier. Endeavor brings them down to 1 HP and then lets you finish them off with Ice Shard
 
If Scizor is beeing your weak link, I would suggest you to give a try on the Choice Band set, I think there isn't much to explain since it just devastate things, otherwise you can always use Legacy Raider Scizor set that is used on his team Siren Song.

The set is (100% copy pasted from the original thread):

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Scizor --- Skarlet
@ Leftovers
Technician
Adamant (+Atk, -SpA)
252 HP, 76 Atk, 176 SpD, 4 Spe

- Swords Dance
- Bullet Punch
- Brick Break
- Roost

We come to the star of the show. This Scizor set is incredible. The difference in survivability between Leftovers and Life Orb is really noticeable. Things that usually slow down a normal Scizor sweep - pokemon like Starmie, Vaporeon, Swampert, Bronzong, Gliscor, etc - are mere set up fodder for this Scizor. Alternating between Swords Dance and Roost while taking ~35% damage from most of these pokemon's attacks, it is ridiculously easy to get to +6 and sweep an entire team.

Brick Break is chosen over X-Scissor because it means that Heatran and Magnezone will think twice before switching in to try and kill of Scizor. With these defensive EVs, Scizor will always survive Modest Specs Magnezone's Thunderbolt. At full health, it also has a 75% chance to surivive a Timid ScarfZone's HP Fire.

Scizor is the pokemon that everyone else tries to set up for. This set is very independent and can take me from being 1-4 down to victory. It also makes an excellent revenge killer for things like Skymin and Salamence. All in all a truly excellent pokemon.

I tried it myself and I can tell you, this guy is the shit, however if you don't fell like needing all that bullky, you can always use 80 HP, 252 Atk, 176 SpD for the extra kick the Atk EVs give on other sets.
 
awsome ill try that out because having more than one choiced pokemon is a no-no on hyper offense teams. Rezon I might try that though I would need a focus sash on that set so I will probably keep the current set to allow me to OHKO lead metas with out taking huge damage from their meteor mashes. Also I will try mixape as even though I hate infernape for being more popular than charizard I think its a solid pokemon and the mixed set is epic so I will try it out and give gengar HP Fire instead of ice too. Also I think gyarados is fine the way he is because I personally feel that this gyara is just better than the bulky gyara. So thanks for the rates everyone.
 
An offensive team means that you should always get a guranteed T1 Stealth Rock. Which means your Mamoswine should be sashed so it can survive a T1 Fireblast from the likes of Heatran or Azelf. Or a Meteor Mash from a Metagross. Then next turn, switch to Infernape incase he decides to use a Bullet Punch. Thats when you start going on the offensive with your team.


Your team is just asking to get walled by Skambliss. So its really not a very good idea to get walled in a situation like that. Your team needs at least 1 or 2 mixed sweepers to it can break through walls easier. Like have a Gengar that knows explosion, a Gyarados that can taunt Skarmory, and a Mixape that can tear through walls.
 
well I usually go suicidal with mamo and nearly never set-up stealth ocks and neither does the opponent and I will probably get mixape over NP ape though I might change vacuum wave. Heatran leads are not a problem they only ever fire blast on the first turn so I switch into gyara I then switch to gengar predicting explosion and I have changed my scizor and it is alot better now it swept the opponent for me in the last game
 
Ugh, you're horribly walled by vaporeon. Scizor can set up on it, but I wouldn't count on that to beat vappy at all. You're threat list says "
Vaporeon - Slaking comes in and Thunerpunches." but do you not realize that just about all vaporeon's run protect? To fix this, I would simply switch infernape to the physical set, which can 2hko cappy with CC.
 
I just see a quick thing. On Mamoswine use ICe Shard/Earthquake/Endeavor/Stealth Rock

This allows you to take on any leads like Swampert and Azelf easier. Endeavor brings them down to 1 HP and then lets you finish them off with Ice Shard
Wait, what? Endeavor does not take an enemy pokemon down to 1 HP, only if they have 1 HP themselves. Thus I'd keep stone edge for the coverage.

But yeah, mixape would be great here, especially if you turn him into a scarfape (mixape + scarf) and then you could keep SD scizor. You'd have an extremely fast revenge killer, being able to outspeed most things without having to rely on scizor's single-type bullet punch for speed.

I don't really like using slacking, and I usually beat anyone who uses him. Pokemon is about prediction, and if you use slacking, even if he KOs someone you give your opponent a free turn to do whatever they want. Something like absol or luke gets a chance to SD up and becomes a major threat to nearly any team. You can keep him if you want for his immense attack power, but he requires twice the prediction and gives twice the problems if you make a single mistake.
 
well yes I admit that slakings ability complicates things but I orginaly made this team to improve my prediction skillz its also not hard to bring him in because he is bulky enough to take a hit or two evern with out investments in his defenses

Why would I bring in infernape on Vaporeon who can destroy me with surf because if I come in on survive and survive I cant OHKO it the next turn but I am willing to get rid of infernape for another pokemon as now that scizors set has been changed he doesnt help me in battles anymore so I will prolly replace him with a water type of something
 
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