Bandactyl

Aerodactyle

[SET]
name: Revenge killer
move 1: Earthquake
move 2: Crunch
move 3: Stone Edge
move 4: Dragon Claw/Ice Fang/Fire Blast
item: Choice Band
nature: Jolly/Adamant
evs: 4 Def / 252 Atk / 252 Spe

The Set
This set functions as a revenge killer, a lead, or a late-game sweeper, all at the same time. With it's massive speed, and Choice Band, this is a threat to be reckoned with.


Why this set deserves to be on-site:

• Very good Revenge Killer, can massacre almost anything with it's great speed and type coverage

• Has a STAB Stone Edge, which, coming off a Choice Band and 105 Base Attack cannot feel good.

• Crunch can be used to take down pesky Ghosts and Pyschics, such as Gengar and Azelf, who are top threats to a large part of the metagame.

Additional Comments:

• I've used this EXTREAMLY sucsessfully as a lead; simply OHKO the opponent's lead and switch to counter whatever they happen to bring out. Crunch removes Azelfs from the picture.

• Mainly is used as a sweeper once the other Pokemon are weakened. Stealth Rock or Spikes support helps a lot with this.

• Dragon Claw can be used to revenge kill revenge killers, such as Flygon, and kill +1 Dragonite.

Teammates and Counters:

• Heatran or Magnezone are excellent counters to the odd Scizor who wants to bullet punch you.

• Has a few problems with Machamp, so a Pyschic type (Such as Azelf or Jirachi) can easily remove this threat.

• Countered by: Machamp, Lucario, Scizor. All I can really think of. In all honesty, just slap a Steel or Fire of some kind onj your team, you should have something to kill these top-tier threats anyway.

This set is worse off than the current LO set already on site. First of all, you don't have the ability to change attacks, meaning that a Pokemon can easily come in on a resisted attack and deal massive damage or set up. Secondly, there's no point for Crunch, as Stone Edge OHKOes both Azelf and Gengar (Azelf after SR). Being locked into an unSTABed Ice Fang just screams for any bulky Water, Steel, Fire, etc etc mons to come in and attack freely.

Also, how many leads are you actually KOing that you're not with the simple lead set? The answer: 2.

Azelf: Focus Sash has Sash so you can't OHKO it, Colbur Berry saves Azelf from dying to Crunch.
Machamp: Lol.
Aerodactyl: Opposing Aeros have Focus Sash, no OHKO.
Metagross: You deal 73% max with EQ while they 2HKO you.
Swampert: Lol.
Infernape: Focus Sash, no OHKO.
Heatran: Band EQ does 98% to Shuca Tran.
Jirachi: Band EQ does 97%, and that's if you get past the Iron Heads (which OHKO you).
Ninjask: It outspeeds you and stalls waiting for a Stone Edge miss. Standard lead Taunts and lols.
Roserade: Focus Sash.
Hippowdon: Lol.
Starmie: The only difference, you OHKO it.
Dragonite: You OHKO it with Ice Fang/Stone Edge but you didn't prevent it from getting up SR, only from dealing massive damage (normal Aero does 69-82%, preventing Dragonite from effectively dealing heavy damage).
Tyranitar: You 2HKO it with Earthquake while it OHKOes back with Stone Edge (if it carries it). Tyranitar is a terrible lead so it's not like it makes a difference anyway.
Uxie: Crunch doesn't 2HKO the Trickscarf lead.

So it's a terrible lead, worse than the LO set because of lack of ability to switch moves, and I doubt the extra boost in power will get any significant KOes.

It wasn't really intended as a lead. It was intended as a Revenge killer. I just found sucess with it as a lead, that's all.


As a Revenge Killer... Who expects a Revenge Killer Aerodactyle? Nobody ever sees Aerodactyle outside of lead, to be honest.


Try it out. It works VERY well for me.

Is there no better move to put in Ice Fang's place? The only KO you really gain is Flygon like you said since SE KO's Dragonite anyway, and like SuperMarth mentioned, being locked into a 65 BP isn't a good thing. Fire Blast maybe? Though I don't know how much it would do to Skarm but at least Forretress gets OHKO'd

Actually, I had the same thought myself- Lots of other things can use Ice moves, such as 'cune, Weavile, mamoswine, ect. I'm going to take a peek right now.


However, I found it useful for getting rid of Flygon, Dragonite, Shaymin. I think that a Fire-type move would be the best bet. I'm going to run some calcs, and see if Fire Blast is a better alternative. Brb.


EDIT: I found that Dragon Claw is overall a better move, with more Base Power, while still serving the purpose of obliterating stray dragons.

Speaking of Flygon, it outclasses this set as a revenge killer due to its resistance to SR and a movepool better suited for picking off stuff like +1 Gyarados, Tyranitar, Dragonite, Kingdra, and +2 Metagross.

I can't really see this being viable at all. While you have perfect neutral coverage with this set you can't switch moves and even though they make perfect coverage together they are walled by many as a single move. Anything bar EQ your walled by steels and you use Earthquake your walled by the many levitators and flying friends. For revenge killing Life Orb Dactyl is just as good without the side effect of locking yourself in to a move and becoming set up bait. So why would you use this over Life Orb Aerodactyl?

Chillarmy said:

Speaking of Flygon, it outclasses this set as a revenge killer due to its resistance to SR and a movepool better suited for picking off stuff like +1 Gyarados, Tyranitar, Dragonite, Kingdra, and +2 Metagross.

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Speaking of Ice Shard...


But really, this is a preferable revenge killer, if only because it doesn't have that nasty 4x Ice weakness. This could actually be paired with a flygon.



But Flygon doesn't make much of a sweeper, which is why this set has an advantage. It's really kind of all-in-one: You can get three pokemon to do this guy's job perfectly, or get one to do them all really well.


Still, I've found massive sucess with this.

I fail to to this sets use over the other aerodactyl sets on site. When it comes to leading, the standard suicide aero lead does a much more efficient job preventing opposing hazards from being settup while also setting stealth rock on your own. When it comes to sweeping, the life orb set does a more efficient job. This gets a no from me sorry.

QC Rejected 1/3

I agree with the sentiments expressed by above posters.

I would much rather run a Life Orb Aerodactyl over a Choice Banded one. Life Orb grants Aerodactyl the freedom to switch moves, which is exceptionally better than being locked into one due to the restriction Choice Band gives. In addition to being able to switch moves, Life Orb Aerodactyl has one major advantage over Choice Band Aerodactyl: Roost. With Roost, Aerodactyl can replenish any health it may have lost from Stealth Rock and your opponent's attacks, increasing its longevity. LO Aerodactyl also has the option of running Taunt in order to prevent Pokemon like Skarmory from laying down Spikes on it.

Being stuck on one move is also a huge letdown for Aerodactyl. Imagine being stuck on Earthquake. This gives your opponent an opportunity to switch in a Pokemon that either 1) resists the move or 2) is immune to it, giving them an opportunity to set up whatever they please. Aerodactyl will then be forced to switch and lose 25% health next time it decided to switch in due to Stealth Rock (if it's present on the field, which it likely will be).

Aerodactyl has better things to be doing than running a Choice Band anyway. It could be in the lead position setting up Stealth Rock and preventing others from doing so, or it could be cleaning up with a Life Orb set, while retaining the ability to switch moves. As stated above, Flygon is a better revenge killer than this Aerodactyl. Let's see why:

• It possesses a very useful resistance to Stealth Rock and immunity to Electric-type attacks, and access to U-turn which makes it a good scouter. Flygon is also bulkier.
• Unlike Choice Band Aerodactyl, Flygon can revenge kill a Jolly +1 Gyarados and a Metagross with an Agility under its belt if it's holding a Choice Scarf.

Asploder said:

Speaking of Ice Shard...

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Flygon is vulnerable to Ice Shard, right? Well, so is Aerodactyl, so I'm not quite sure what you're getting at here.

All in all, I don't see what this set has over the LO one that's on-site, making me question its viability.

aerodactyl isn't a good choice bander, first its stealth rock weak, second its priority weak, third, its not bulky. any pokemon can counter this set, because its so easily predicted, and once your prediction is wrong, you have to switch and lose another 25% when you come back in.

Asploder said:

Still, I've found massive sucess with this.

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your cre is probably low, which explains how its successful

Choice Band is already mentioned in the OC section of Aerodactyl's onsite analysis, and that's the place where it is going to stay.

Feel free to try again in the future. Locking.