Munchlax (Recycle)

(Heysup) (macle)

(Oglemi) (Fatecrashers)

Before starting, I want to say only one thing. As you can see in my nickname, I´m from Spain, so writing in English is very difficult for me. I´m sorry if the text has a lot of grammar/vocabulary mistakes.


http://www.smogon.com/dp/pokemon/munchlax

[SET]
name: Recycle
move 1: Recycle
move 2: Curse
move 3: Return / Body Slam
move 4: Fire Punch / ThunderPunch / Earthquake
item: Oran Berry
ability: Thick Fat
nature: Sassy
EVs: 76 HP / 196 Def / 236 SpD
IVs: 0 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Like its older sibling Snorlax in OU, Munchlax can run an effective Curse set effectively in LC, with the distinction of possesing something like a recovery move, the Oran Berry-Recycle combination. After using Curse and recovering lost HP with Oran Berry, Recycle allows Munchlax to regain the Oran Berry. This means that Munchlax can recover 64.52% of its HP by using 2 Oran Berries.</p>

<p>76 HP EVs allow Munchlax to reach 31 HP. This HP number is the maximum you can have while still losing only 1 HP under Hail or Sandstorm. If Munchlax had 32 HP or more, it would lose 2 HP per turn under those weather conditions. A Sassy nature and 236 EVs maximize Special Defense, and the last 196 EVs are placed into Defense.</p>

<p>On the offensive side, Return is a very powerful STAB move, but Body Slam can be used for paralysis support. Fire Punch allows Munchlax to hit Steel-types for super effective damage, while putting the hurt on Ghost-types. ThunderPunch can be used instead of Fire Punch, as it allows Munchlax to hit Rock-types for neutral damage and pesky Water-types (bar Chinchou) for super effective damage. Earthquake allows Munchlax to hit Rock- and Steel-types for super effective damage, but Flying or Levitating Ghosts such as Drifloon and Gastly will be immune to both offensive attacks.</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Munchlax can also use a mono-attacker set by changing the fourth attack to Rest and the Oran Berry to Chesto Berry. This will allow Munchlax to restore its condition and all of its HP in a single turn, wake up instantly thanks to the Chesto Berry, and then recover the Berry with Recycle to start the healing cycle over. It's one turn faster than using Rest without recovering the Berry (without Recycle: Rest + 2 turns Munchlax is asleep = 3 turns; with Recycle: Rest (Munchlax wakes up due to Chesto Berry) + Recycle (to recover the Berry) = 2 turns).</p>

<p>If you are looking for perfect coverage, a more specially-oriented set could be used, with a Quiet nature and an EV spread of 76 HP / 196 Def / 36 SpA / 156 SpD, and Surf in the last moveslot. 36 SpA allows Munchlax to always OHKO 36 HP / 36 SpD Jolly Aron after three layers of Spikes and Stealth Rock; even with only one layer and without SR there is a small chance that it will OHKO. Stockpile is an option to use over Curse on the more specially-oriented set due to the loss of Special Defense investment.</p>

<p>Gligar is a fantastic partner to use alongside Munchlax, due to his high Defense, Rock and Fighting resistances, and the ability to KO them with Earthquake / Aerial Ace (Steel-types are also taken care of with Earthquake). Nasty Plot Croagunk is one of the best teammates for the mono-attacker set, as he resists Fighting-type attacks, and can use Vacuum Wave to demolish Rock- and Steel-types, while Ghost-types are bested by Dark Pulse. For the mixedet, Pineco is the best partner, because he can set up Spikes and Stealth Rock, boasts a resistance to Fighting-type attacks, has access to Explosion, and can use Earthquake to hit Rock- and Steel-types for super effective damage. Finally, due to the Curse Speed drop and Munchlax's naturally low base Speed stat, Trick Room support can be a good option. Bronzor can provide Trick Room support, resists Rock- and Steel-type attacks, and can use Psychic to KO Fighting-types.</p>

This is actually pretty cool.

Earthquake hits Rocks and Steels, but misses on Levitating ghosts. Should be mentioned somewhere.

Darkamber8828 said:

This is actually pretty cool.

Earthquake hits Rocks and Steels, but misses on Levitating ghosts. Should be mentioned somewhere.

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Added. My first Munchlax had Body Slam and Earthquake, but I forgot the second one when I was writing the post. Thanks

Oh yeah. There's already a Munchlax analysis here.

So, you really only need to write set comments and additional comments, right?

This set doesn't look bad, so can we get some QC input on this?

Also, as Darkamber8828 has stated, there is already a Munchlax analysis on-site, so can you change the title to Munchlax (Recycle + Curse)? You do this by clicking Edit, Go Advanced, and then change the title.

Thanks!

This set's pretty good, it should manage to work out sooner or later. Maybe slash recycle with an extra attack. However, continue to edit this, or I'll be tempted to take this over :)

ShinyAzelf said:

so can you change the title to Munchlax (Recycle + Curse)? You do this by clicking Edit, Go Advanced, and then change the title.

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Okay, I will change the title. Thanks for the info!

Great, good to see you're working on it. Just one more stamp to go!

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macle said:

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Then, with 2 stamps, do I have to move the post to Copyediting? I think the answer is "Of course", but I´m not very sure

EDIT: Okay, I´ve seen my own asnwer in the rules :P. Copyediting, here I go!

Hey, I think you need to expand all your paragraphs will a bit more content. Also, you should have an [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS] section, right below [SET COMMENTS], where you talk about any other stuff we need to know other than the set, for example other items it can use, talk about its EV spread, talk about other viable moves and it can use, and specific teammates that would benefit this set.

Thanks!

EDIT: And when you've added enough to your analysis, send a PM to Rising_Dusk, telling him to add your set to the GP Queue!

Tomorrow (or this night) I wlli add Additional comments. Now I´m translating the text :P

ShinyAzelf said:

EDIT: And when you've added enough to your analysis, send a PM to Rising_Dusk, telling him to add your set to the GP Queue!

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Is there a queue? OH NOOOO! XD. Thanks for it, you´re helping me a lot ;)

Edited with Team options & Additional comments. Any comments?

Hey,

When you see it on-site, it says Team Options and Additional Comments, but you actually only have to say [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS], so remove that Team Options part in front of it. Anyways it looks good. Get it on the GP queue by PMing Rising_Dusk!

ShinyAzelf said:

Hey,

When you see it on-site, it says Team Options and Additional Comments, but you actually only have to say [ADDITIONAL COMMENTS], so remove that Team Options part in front of it. Anyways it looks good. Get it on the GP queue by PMing Rising_Dusk!

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Okay, I will remove it, and after that I will send a PM to him. Thanks again!

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Just a question, what is the point of running a 0 Spe IV and a reducing nature? I can't see a point to it, as you don't mention anything about using Trick Room. You don't run any Special moves or Gyro Ball, so would it not make more sense to just not run any EVs in Speed? If you do that, then you actually have half a shred of a chance of outrunning something if it gets paralyzed by Body Slam.

tomtom5858 said:

Just a question, what is the point of running a 0 Spe IV and a reducing nature? I can't see a point to it, as you don't mention anything about using Trick Room. You don't run any Special moves or Gyro Ball, so would it not make more sense to just not run any EVs in Speed? If you do that, then you actually have half a shred of a chance of outrunning something if it gets paralyzed by Body Slam.

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In the "mix" set a Spe reducing nature is obviously the best option, but I forgot the Trick Room support in the main set. Speed will decrease every time you use Curse, so a neutral nature and a 5 base stat won´t allow you to outspeed anything.

So don't delay, act now, supplies are running out
Allow, if your still alive, six to eight years to arrive
And if you follow, there may still be a tomorrow, but if the offer's shun,
You might as well be walking on the sun

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Not too bad for somebody whose first language isn't English.

I made the reference to Munchlax as "it" because that is how Munchlax is referenced in the analysis that is onsite.

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So don't delay, act now, supplies are running out
Allow, if your still alive, six to eight years to arrive
And if you follow, there may still be a tomorrow, but if the offer's shun,
You might as well be walking on the sun

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[SET]
name: Recycle
move 1: Recycle
move 2: Curse
move 3: Return / Body Slam
move 4: Fire Punch / ThunderPunch / Earthquake
item: Oran Berry
ability: Thick Fat
nature: Sassy
EVevs: 76 HP / 196 Def / 236 SpD
IVivs: 0 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]

<p>Like his big brother its older sibling Snorlax in OU, Munchlax can run a Curse set effectively in LC, with the advantage distinction of possesing something like a recovery move, the Oran Berry-Recycle combination. After using Curse and recovering lost HP with Oran Berry, Recycle allows Munchlax to recover the Oran Berry. It means that Munchlax can recover his way to heal 32.26% of his HP by using an Oran Berry This means that Munchlax can recover 32.26% of its HP by using Oran Berry. (I guess this sentence doesn't make much sense. Do you mean that Munchlax gains 32.26% of its health from 2 uses of the Oran Berry? Or is that percent from a single use of Oran Berry?)</p>

<p>76 HP EVs allows Munchlax to reach 31 HP. This HP number is the limit of losing only 1 HP under Hail or Sandstorm. If Munchlax had 32 HP or more, he it would lose 2 HP per turn under those weather conditions. A Sassy nature and 236 EVs maximize SpD, and the last 196 EVs are located placed into Defense.</p>

<p>On the offensive side, Return is a very powerful STAB move, but Body Slam can be used for paralysis support. Fire Punch allows Munchlax to hit Steel-types for super effective damage, while still simultaneously damaging Ghost-types. ThunderPunch can be used instead of Fire Punch, as it allows Munchlax to hit Rock-types for neutral damage and pesky Water-types for super effective damage (bar Chinchou). Earthquake allows Munchlax to hit Rock- and Steel-types for super effective damage, but Flying-type or Levitating Ghosts such as Drifloon and Gastly will avoid both offensive attacks. (period)</p>

[ADDITIONAL COMMENTS]

<p>Munchlax can also use a mono-attacker set, (remove comma) by changing the fourth attack for to Rest, (remove comma) and the Oran Berry for to Chesto Berry. It allows This will allow Munchlax to restore all his of its HP in a single turn, waking up with Chesto Berry and recovering the berry with Recycle wake up instantly thanks to the Chesto Berry, and then recover the Berry with Recycle to start the cycle over. It's one turn faster than using Rest without recovering the berry Berry (without Recycle: Rest + 2 turns Munchlax is asleep = 3 turns; with Recycle: Rest (Munchlax wakes up due to Chesto Berry) + Recycle (to recover the berry Berry) = 2 turns). (period)</p>

<p>If you are looking for perfect coverage, a more specially oriented set could be used, (remove comma) with a Quiet nature and an EV spread of 76 HP / 196 Def / 36 SpA / 156 SpD, with and Surf in the last moveslot. 36 SpA allows Munchlax to always OHKO 36 HP / 36 SpD Jolly Aron with three layers of Spikes and Stealth Rock. Even with only one layer and without SR there is a little small chance that it will OHKO chance to OHKO. In this set Stockpile can be used instead of Curse, due to this special set has less SpD than the main set Stockpile is an option to use over Curse on the more specially-oriented set due to the loss of Special Defense investment.</p>

<p>Gligar is obviously the best partner a fantastic partner to use alongside Munchlax, due to his high Defense, his Rock and Fighting resistances, and his ability to KO them with Earthquake / Aerial Ace (Steel-types are also damaged with Earthquake). Nasty Plot Croagunk is one of the best teammates for the mono-attacker set, as Vacuum Wave hits Rock- and Steel-types, Dark Pulse hits Ghost-types and his resistance to Fighting-type attacks. For the mix set, Pineco is the best partner, because he can set up Spikes and Stealth Rock, boasts a resistance to Fighting-type attacks, has access to Explosion, (comma) and can use Earthquake to hit Rock- and Steel-types for super effective damage. Finally, due to the Curse Speed drop and his Munchlax's low base Speed stat, Trick Room support can be a good option. Bronzor can provide Trick Room support, resists Rock- and Steel-type attacks, and can use Psychic to KO Fighting-types. (period)</p>

Not too bad for somebody whose first language isn't English.

I made the reference to Munchlax as "it" because that is how Munchlax is referenced in the analysis that is onsite.

GP 1/2

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Thanks for the changes.

In the first paragraph, it was the percent for a single use, so I change it for the percent for using 2 Oran Berries.

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just a minor nitpick, but in the last AC paragraph, Munchlax´s should be Munchlax's. (Grammar Standards say to use the non-curlyish ones.)

-Charmander- said:

just a minor nitpick, but in the last AC paragraph, Munchlax´s should be Munchlax's. (Grammar Standards say to use the non-curlyish ones.)

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Wow, I didn´t see it. Thanks.

So, this is complete. Thanks for all the checks!